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3rd Jun '18 1:56:08 PM TheNerevarine
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* ''Anime/GenmaWars'': The Ninjas are a group of force-powered humans and renegade Genma that oppose the brutal and tyrannical Genma regime... By pillaging their innocent human serfs and robbing whatever tribute they pay to the Genma overlords. Despite calling themselves freedom fighters, in reality, their leader [[JerkAss Dan]] has no interest in overthrowing their enemies and is interested only in leeching off the humans and making their lives even harder than it already is.
19th May '18 1:23:00 PM NoNamesEver
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** In ''Film/RogueOne'' the Alliance cut ties with Saw Gerrera and his resistance group because they became too brutal and caused too much collateral damage. On Jedha, Gerrera's men attack an Imperial convoy in the middle of a crowded neighborhood and cause a lot of civilian deaths. Gerrera is also willing to use MindRape on prisoners to extract information. We also see that the main Alliance leadership is not above fighting a dirty war when necessary. Cassian kills a fellow rebel rather than allow the guy to be captured by Imperials and interrogated. Rogue One is formed from a group of Alliance commandos, spies, saboteurs, and assassins who have grown tired of doing the Rebellion's dirty work.

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** In ''Film/RogueOne'' the Alliance cut ties with Saw Gerrera and his resistance group because they became too brutal and caused too much collateral damage. On Jedha, Gerrera's men attack an Imperial convoy in the middle of a crowded neighborhood and cause a lot of civilian deaths. Gerrera is also willing to use MindRape on prisoners to extract information. We also see that the main Alliance leadership is not above fighting a dirty war when necessary. Cassian kills a fellow rebel rather than allow the guy to be captured by Imperials and interrogated. Rogue One is formed from a group of Alliance commandos, spies, saboteurs, and assassins who have grown tired of doing the Rebellion's dirty work. Ultimately [[spoiler:all of the more radical elements of the Rebellion would meet their end at the Battle of Jehda and Scarif as they sacrificed their lives to bring the death star plans to the rebels]]
2nd May '18 4:01:19 AM LlamaAdventure
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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a madman driven to insanity by the death of his son - caused by an intelligence failure on the part of the Regular Army, who wants to TakeOverTheWorld, and his appearance is modeled after real-world dictators like Saddam Hussein.)

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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary protagonists. [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a madman driven to insanity by the death of his son - caused by an intelligence failure on the part of the Regular Army, who wants to TakeOverTheWorld, and his appearance is modeled after real-world dictators like Saddam Hussein.)
2nd May '18 4:00:29 AM LlamaAdventure
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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a madman driven to insanity by the death of his son - caused by an intelligence failure on the part of the Regular Army, who wants to TakeOverTheWorld.)

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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a madman driven to insanity by the death of his son - caused by an intelligence failure on the part of the Regular Army, who wants to TakeOverTheWorld.TakeOverTheWorld, and his appearance is modeled after real-world dictators like Saddam Hussein.)
2nd May '18 3:57:48 AM LlamaAdventure
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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a rambling madman who wants to TakeOverTheWorld.)

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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a rambling madman driven to insanity by the death of his son - caused by an intelligence failure on the part of the Regular Army, who wants to TakeOverTheWorld.)
2nd May '18 3:54:53 AM LlamaAdventure
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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists.

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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists.protagonists ([[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] depict Morden as a rambling madman who wants to TakeOverTheWorld.)
2nd May '18 3:50:49 AM LlamaAdventure
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* The main recurring villain of the ''VideoGame/MetalSlug'' series is the Rebel Army and its leader, General Morden, though there's not much room for story in the ''Metal Slug'' franchise so you never really get to see the Rebel Army do anything particularly evil beyond gaining power and shooting at the protagonists.
25th Apr '18 12:22:09 PM Dragon101
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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', Bane presents himself as a revolutionary trying to free Gotham from the control of its corrupt elite. His methods? Gather an army mostly made up of mercenaries and [[spoiler: escaped convicts, trap most of Gotham's police underground, put all members of high society and other dissidents through a KangarooCourt, and threaten to detonate a nuke if anyone tries to interfere.]] And through all of this, [[spoiler: Bane is not remotely interested in helping Gotham. The entire point of the "revolution" is to spread chaos and distract the populace from his true plan of destroying Gotham.]]

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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', Bane presents himself as a revolutionary trying to free Gotham from the control of its corrupt elite. His methods? Gather an army mostly made up of mercenaries and [[spoiler: escaped convicts, trap most of Gotham's police underground, put all members of high society and other dissidents through a KangarooCourt, and threaten to detonate a nuke if anyone tries to interfere.]] And through all of this, [[spoiler: Bane is not remotely interested in helping Gotham. The entire point of the "revolution" is to spread chaos and distract the populace from his true plan of destroying Gotham. Given that Bane is an extremist member of the already extreme League of Shadows though, whose agenda was more draconian and anti-crime, Banes revolutionary rhetoric might not have been all that honest to begin with.]]
20th Apr '18 12:58:23 AM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/DecemberHeat'' the communist revolutionaries kill a lot of unarmed soldiers and 'bourgeois'. Some conversations point out that most of the revolutionaries are doing it to secure themselves better positions under the new rule.

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* In ''Film/DecemberHeat'' the communist revolutionaries kill a lot of unarmed soldiers and 'bourgeois'. Some conversations point out that most of the revolutionaries are doing it to secure themselves better positions under the new rule.regime.



* The rebels in ''Film/ProofOfLife'' most certainly count. After they stopped receiving foreign monetary aid for the revolution, the guerrillas turned into farming coca plants and kidnapping and ransoming important foreigners. They also have little qualms about shooting civilians or police officers. Of course, they were DirtyCommunists to begin with.

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* The rebels in ''Film/ProofOfLife'' most certainly count. After they stopped receiving foreign monetary aid for the revolution, the guerrillas turned into farming coca plants and kidnapping and ransoming important foreigners.foreigners to get ransoms. They also have little qualms about shooting civilians or police officers. Of course, they were DirtyCommunists to begin with.



* In contrast to the rebels of the later films, the Separatists in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels are almost entirely shown as being evil. Their rebellion against the republic is little more than a big business backed attempt to rule the galaxy in the name of profit, with all of the big names fully aware of this. Being controlled by a [[EvilOverlord Sith lord]] and a [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul homicidal cyborg]] certainly didn't help their causes reputation either. It's only the planets that revolt against the Republic in hope of receiving Confederacy assistance that actually believe in the moral cause beyond lip service.

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* In contrast to the rebels of the later films, the Separatists in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels are almost entirely shown as being evil. Their rebellion against the republic is little more than a big business backed attempt to rule the galaxy in the name of profit, with all of the big names fully aware of this. Being controlled by a [[EvilOverlord Sith lord]] and a [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul homicidal cyborg]] certainly didn't help their causes cause's reputation either. It's only the planets that revolt against the Republic in hope of receiving Confederacy assistance that actually believe in the moral cause beyond lip service.



* ''Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter'': In this German drama, between the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Germans]], [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviets]], and [[LaResistance Polish Resistance]], the latter are usually the best of a bad lot, but are not above a bit of pillage or antisemitism. This is exemplified when they ambush a train bound for Auschwitz and loot it for weapons, but are prepared to leave the prisoners in the cattle cars to their fate.

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* ''Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter'': In this German drama, between the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Germans]], [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviets]], and [[LaResistance Polish Resistance]], the latter are usually the best of a bad lot, but are not above a bit of pillage or antisemitism. This is exemplified when they ambush a train bound for Auschwitz and loot it for weapons, but are prepared to leave the prisoners in the cattle cars to their fate. These depictions caused protest by Poles.[[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. Over 6,000 individuals have been recognized as having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]



* ''Series/BlackSails'', especially the last 2 seasons. Captain Flint's reasoning is basically: If you're trying to fight a David vs. Goliath One Man War against a slavery-supporting, sexist, [[spoiler:and viciously homophobic]] Empire, you better be prepared to [[DisproportionateRetribution kill some innocent people]] so that your enemy will be scared enough of you to think twice about hanging your supporters. Some of the freed slaves also get very brutal in revenging themselves on their former masters - including their wives and children.

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* ''Series/BlackSails'', especially the last 2 seasons. Captain Flint's reasoning is basically: If if you're trying to fight a David vs. Goliath One Man War against a slavery-supporting, sexist, [[spoiler:and viciously homophobic]] Empire, you better be prepared to [[DisproportionateRetribution kill some innocent people]] so that your enemy will be scared enough of you to think twice about hanging your supporters. Some of the freed slaves also get very brutal in revenging themselves on their former masters - including their wives and children.
20th Apr '18 12:58:23 AM Fireblood
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* ''Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter'': In this German drama, between the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Germans]], [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviets]], and [[LaResistance Polish Resistance]], the latter are usually the best of a bad lot, but are not above a bit of pillage or antisemitism. This is exemplified when they ambush a train bound for Auschwitz and loot it for weapons, but are prepared to leave the prisoners in the cattle cars to their fate. These depictions caused protest by Poles.[[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. Over 6,000 individuals have been recognized as having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]

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* ''Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter'': In this German drama, between the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Germans]], [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviets]], and [[LaResistance Polish Resistance]], the latter are usually the best of a bad lot, but are not above a bit of pillage or antisemitism. This is exemplified when they ambush a train bound for Auschwitz and loot it for weapons, but are prepared to leave the prisoners in the cattle cars to their fate. These depictions caused protest by Poles.[[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. Over 6,000 individuals have been recognized as having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]
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