History Main / TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized

11th Apr '16 12:14:31 PM Morgenthaler
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* A major story arc in the MalazanBookOfTheFallen is [[OperationBlank The Whirlwind]], continent-wide rebellion in the culturally diverse Seven Cities. It is an affair of [[WarIsHell extreme brutality]] that is soon revealed to be an [[GambitPileup organizational clusterfuck]].

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* A major story arc in the MalazanBookOfTheFallen ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' is [[OperationBlank The Whirlwind]], continent-wide rebellion in the culturally diverse Seven Cities. It is an affair of [[WarIsHell extreme brutality]] that is soon revealed to be an [[GambitPileup organizational clusterfuck]].
2nd Apr '16 12:14:42 PM Joysweeper
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* Invoked by characters pulling the strings in ''VideoGame/AviaryAttorney''. The RebelLeader is angry but inclined towards justice, fairness, and nonviolence, and the revolutionaries tend to listen to her. But certain of her people believe that a civilized transfer of power won't lead to ''them'' getting power and go to [[FalseFlagOperation very]] [[InTheBack gory]] [[ThanatosGambit lengths]] to rile up her and the police and turn the revolution bloody.
18th Mar '16 8:35:12 AM 20person
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* ''The Pitt'' DLC for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' has an overarching theme of GrayAndGreyMorality, exemplified in the struggle between Ashur's brutal slave regime trying to engineer a cure for the mutations plaguing the place, and Wernher's rebellion who want to just as brutally take the cure by force. [[spoiler: Also, the cure is a baby.]]

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* ''The Pitt'' DLC for ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' has an overarching theme of GrayAndGreyMorality, exemplified in the struggle between Ashur's brutal slave regime trying to engineer a cure for the mutations plaguing the place, and Wernher's rebellion who want to just as brutally take the cure by force. [[spoiler: Also, the cure is a baby.]] [[KickTheDog Which you]] [[MoralEventHorizon can]] [[ImAHumanitarian eat]]]].
23rd Feb '16 5:01:47 PM Dravencour
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-->'''Kira Nerys:''' None of you belonged on Bajor. It wasn't your world! For fifty years you raped our planet, and you killed our people. You lived on our land and you took the food out of our mouths, and I don't care whether you held a phaser in your hand or you ironed shirts for a living. You were all guilty and you were all legitimate targets!

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-->'''Kira Nerys:''' [[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry None of you belonged on Bajor. It wasn't your world! world!]] For fifty years you raped our planet, and you killed our people. You lived on our land and you took the food out of our mouths, and I don't care whether you held a phaser in your hand or you ironed shirts for a living. You were all '''all''' guilty and you were all '''all''' legitimate targets!
16th Feb '16 1:52:27 PM jamespolk
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* A problem for Pancho Villa in ''Film/VivaVilla''. Madero coaxes Pancho into supporting him by saying that the revolution needs to be civilized, and that Pancho needs to fight in an organized army and not murder the enemy soldiers he captures. Pancho is reluctant, but agrees, and does become civilized for a time. But after Madero is killed Pancho fights back in his old prisoner-killing bandit style, which costs him the support of idealists like Don Felipe. And when he takes over as President of Mexico Pancho is an incompetent administrator, which he eventually admits.
--> '''Pancho''' (to Madero): You can't win a revolution with love. You've got to have hate. You are the good side; I am the bad side.
3rd Feb '16 5:18:56 AM Nithael
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3rd Feb '16 4:53:27 AM arisboch
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31st Jan '16 1:04:14 AM JulianLapostat
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** Their earlier game VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII makes it clear that the Revolution is essentially led by a group of wealthy white slaveowners who will attack native villages and displace them from their land.


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** This was however highly controversial on release, and Ken Levine [[YMMV/BioshockInfinite in response to criticism]] provided a {{Retcon}} in the DLC [[spoiler:where Daisy Fitzroy was against her extreme violence and that it was an act imposed by the Luteces to serve as StealthMentor for Elizabeth]].
31st Jan '16 12:53:05 AM JulianLapostat
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* Creator/FyodorDostoevsky used this trope in his novel ''Demons''. The revolutionists in this book are portrayed as ruthless terrorists, led by power-hungry Pyotr Verkhovensky, and their ideologist preaches about the necessity of wiping out millions of people for the victory of the revolution. [[spoiler: At the end some of them are dead, the rest(except Verkhovensky) are arrested.]] What is even worse, the leader of this group has a prototype from real life - Sergey Nechaev, one of the most infamous Russian terrorists of that time.
* OlderThanRadio: The nasty-as-can-be French revolutionaries in Creator/CharlesDickens's ''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities''.

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* Creator/FyodorDostoevsky used this trope in all his novels:
** His ''Literature/NotesFromUnderground'' was a rebuke to Nikolai Chernyshevsky's ''What is to be Done?'', an utopian
novel ''Demons''. The revolutionists in about Russian progress and reform. Dostoevsky responded to it with his novella about a man who will never be part of the New Order, and that humanity is fundamentally self-destructive and flawed. He developed this further with ''Literature/CrimeAndPunishment'' where fantasies of change only hurt the innocent and that finally in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' that ideas and wounds are collective and that a desire for change, even in the form of new ideas, leads to an act of {{Patricide}}.
** ''Demons'' argues that violence is a tool of binding revolutionaries together in a single unit, since everyone is equally dehumanized and guilty, and moulded on the path to discipline. The revolutionaries in the
book are portrayed as ruthless terrorists, so obsessed with this form of discipline that they never think of actual political ideology. So they become corrupt and abusive, led by power-hungry Pyotr Verkhovensky, and their ideologist who preaches about the necessity of wiping out millions of people for the victory of the revolution. revolution and finally kills [[spoiler: At one of his own cell members at the end some of them are dead, suspicion that he could be TheMole. Likewise, the rest(except Verkhovensky) are arrested.original ideologist of the group, Nikolai Stavrogin who they all believe to be a ByronicHero is in fact a self-destructive nihilist reeling from guilt at the time he raped a little girl.]] What is even worse, the leader of this group has a prototype from real life - Sergey Nechaev, one of the most infamous Russian terrorists of that time.
* OlderThanRadio: The nasty-as-can-be French revolutionaries in Creator/CharlesDickens's ''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities''.''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities'' written under the aegis of counter-revolutionary doctrines like Edmund Burke's Reflections and Thomas Carlyle's history of the Revolution, still it's definitely true to the events.



* Much of Creator/TomStoppard's ''Theatre/TheCoastOfUtopia'' trilogy, set during the 19th century in Europe, primarily Russia and France. Let's just say it had a historical basis and one of its main characters was Mikhail Bakunin, and I don't mean the guy from ''Series/{{Lost}}''.

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* Creator/BertoltBrecht being a Marxist explored the concept of revolutionary violence in many of his plays.
** His most controversial was his Lehrstruckes ("Teaching Plays"), one of which is ''The Measures Taken'', the plot consists of a Revolutionary cell executing one of their own when the latter becomes a liability. The victim himself realizes that his death is necessary for the greater good and accepts it with stoicism. This was so controversial that at his [=HUAC=] hearing, Brecht was interrogated specifically about it.
** His play ''Theatre/TheGoodPersonOfSzechwan'' has a protagonist Shen Te invent a violent AlterEgo Shui Ta to protect herself from exploitation and harm. Shen Te is normally pacifist and meek, Shui Ta is not. Shui Ta finally says, in typically pithy Brecht-style:
--> ''"You can only help one of your luckless brothers/By trampling down a dozen others."''
* Much of Creator/TomStoppard's ''Theatre/TheCoastOfUtopia'' ''The Coast of Utopia'' trilogy, set during the 19th century in Europe, primarily Russia and France. Let's just say it had a historical basis and one of its main characters was Mikhail Bakunin, and I don't mean the guy from ''Series/{{Lost}}''.
20th Jan '16 2:22:23 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The White Fang was once peaceful freedom fighters who sought equality between humans and [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]], but their current leadership opted to go for a more "hands on" approach; thus, they became terrorists who seek to wipe out humanity completely.
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