History Main / TheRestOfTheNuclearClub

7th Jul '17 6:22:29 PM infernape612
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* South Korea, and many other countries under the U.S. umbrella of protection, don't really have breakout capacity because they don't feel that they need it. But given their proximity to North Korea, there have been calls in South Korea to get to breakout capacity on their own, although cooler heads eventually prevailed (if only because bombing North Korea is akin to bombing themselves -- they do claim sovereignty over the whole peninsula, after all). This sort of thinking exposes a wider trend that some countries don't necessarily trust the U.S. not to {{sacrific|iallamb}}e them for their own protection, even if they're nominally under the nuclear umbrella; this would drive some countries to get to breakout capacity on their own.

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* South Korea, and many other countries under the U.S. umbrella of protection, don't really have breakout capacity because they don't feel that they need it. But given their proximity to North Korea, there have been calls in South Korea to get to breakout capacity on their own, although cooler heads eventually prevailed (if only because bombing North Korea is akin to bombing themselves -- they do claim sovereignty over the whole peninsula, after all). This sort of thinking exposes a wider trend that some countries don't necessarily trust the U.S. not to {{sacrific|iallamb}}e {{sacrific|ialLamb}}e them for their own protection, even if they're nominally under the nuclear umbrella; this would drive some countries to get to breakout capacity on their own.
22nd Jun '17 8:36:44 PM Kalmbach
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* Money, and lots of it. The Manhattan Project cost more than the American space program did.

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* Money, and lots of it. The Manhattan Project cost more Adjusted for inflation, it was cheaper to put a man on the moon than it was to create the American space program did.Bomb.
10th May '17 12:36:28 PM JamesAustin
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->''Luxembourg is next to go\\
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.''

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->''Luxembourg ->''"Luxembourg is next to go\\
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.''"''



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!![[UsefulNotes/TheSamsonOption Israel]] - ''The Samson Option''

-->''Israel must be like a mad dog - too dangerous to bother.''
-->-'''[[ColonelBadass Moshe Dayan]]'''

It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Israel may or may not have weapons that could be described as being of a nuclear nature, but it is also entirely within the realm of possibility that they do not have weapons that could be described as being of a nuclear nature, but all that really counts is that the State of Israel, in a very real sense, would like to remind you of the fact that it may or may not have nuclear weapons.

[[TranslationYes Translation]]: Israel has nukes. Unofficially.

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!![[UsefulNotes/TheSamsonOption Israel]] - [[folder: Israel ''The Samson Option''

-->''Israel
Option'']]
->''"Israel
must be like a mad dog - too dangerous to bother.''
-->-'''[[ColonelBadass
"''
-->-- '''{{Colonel|Badass}}
Moshe Dayan]]'''

Dayan'''

It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Israel [[UsefulNotes/TheSamsonOption Israel]] may or may not have weapons that could be described as being of a nuclear nature, but it is also entirely within the realm of possibility that they do not have weapons that could be described as being of a nuclear nature, but all that really counts is that the State of Israel, in a very real sense, would like to remind you of the fact that it may or may not have nuclear weapons.

[[TranslationYes Translation]]: TranslationYes, Israel has nukes. Unofficially.




!![[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat India]] - ''The Third Eye Of Bharat''

-->''We must have the capability. [[GunboatDiplomacy We should first prove ourselves]] and [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi then talk of Gandhi,]] non-violence and a world without nuclear weapons.''
-->-'''Jawaharlal Nehru'''

India detonated its first nuke in 1974, in what was called a "peaceful nuclear explosion". They even called the event "Smiling Buddha" (because it happened to fall on a holiday marking [[UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} the Buddha's]] birthday; no word on what the actual Buddha would have thought). It's interesting for being the first nuclear explosion to be ordered by a woman, India's then-Prime Minister [[IronLady Indira Gandhi]]. The main weapons are Agni medium-range ballistic missiles, with an ICBM in development. The Su-30MKI "Flanker" is being adapted for nuclear use, and its first missile sub has just been launched.

!![[UsefulNotes/PakAttack Pakistan]] - ''Mutually Assured Destruction: The Remix''

-->''[[TheRival If India builds the bomb,]] we will eat grass and leaves for a thousand years, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own...After all, the Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb, and the Hindus will soon have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too?''
-->-'''Zulfikar Ali-Bhutto'''

Pakistan tested its first nukes in 1998, developing them in response to India's test, [[OpenSecret although it is believed to have had them for many years previously]]. The country has an unknown number of nuclear weapons, but [[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/30/AR2011013004136.html current estimates]] put it ahead of India in both weapons and delivery systems. Unlike India, it has successfully developed a triad of systems which can be launched from land (medium- and intermediate-range missiles), aircraft, and submarines. This is a much more sophisticated arsenal than what India has, but it comes at the cost of accepting Indian superiority in conventional weapons (the earlier doctrine called for approximate parity). [[http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120211/DEFREG03/302110003/Pakistani-Navy-Develop-Nuclear-Powered-Submarines-Reports?odyssey=tab They're currently making a nuclear submarine.]].

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\n!![[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat India]] - [[/folder]]

[[folder: India
''The Third Eye Of Bharat''

-->''We
of Bharat'']]
->''"We
must have the capability. [[GunboatDiplomacy We should first prove ourselves]] ourselves and then talk of [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi then talk of Gandhi,]] Gandhi]], non-violence and a world without nuclear weapons.''
-->-'''Jawaharlal
"''
-->-- '''Jawaharlal
Nehru'''

India [[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat India]] detonated its first nuke in 1974, in what was called a "peaceful nuclear explosion". They even called the event "Smiling Buddha" (because it happened to fall on a holiday marking [[UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} the Buddha's]] birthday; no word on what the actual Buddha would have thought). It's interesting for being the first nuclear explosion to be ordered by a woman, India's then-Prime Minister [[IronLady Indira Gandhi]]. The main weapons are Agni medium-range ballistic missiles, with an ICBM in development. The Su-30MKI "Flanker" is being adapted for nuclear use, and its first missile sub has just been launched.

!![[UsefulNotes/PakAttack Pakistan]] -
launched.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Pakistan
''Mutually Assured Destruction: The Remix''

-->''[[TheRival If
Remix'']]
->''"If
India builds the bomb,]] bomb, we will eat grass and leaves for a thousand years, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own...After all, the Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb, and the Hindus will soon have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too?''
-->-'''Zulfikar
too?"''
-->-- '''Zulfikar
Ali-Bhutto'''

Pakistan [[UsefulNotes/PakAttack Pakistan]] tested its first nukes in 1998, developing them in response to India's test, [[OpenSecret although it is believed to have had them for many years previously]]. The country has an unknown number of nuclear weapons, but [[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/30/AR2011013004136.html current estimates]] put it ahead of India in both weapons and delivery systems. Unlike India, it has successfully developed a triad of systems which can be launched from land (medium- and intermediate-range missiles), aircraft, and submarines. This is a much more sophisticated arsenal than what India has, but it comes at the cost of accepting Indian superiority in conventional weapons (the earlier doctrine called for approximate parity). [[http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120211/DEFREG03/302110003/Pakistani-Navy-Develop-Nuclear-Powered-Submarines-Reports?odyssey=tab They're currently making a nuclear submarine.]].




!!North Korea - ''The Hooves of Chollima''

-->''Our test... usher in a new age of prosperity in the Songun idea, a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a [[BlatantLies great prosperous powerful socialist nation!]]''
-->-'''Korea Central News Agency'''

North Korean ''Songun'' ("military first") policy calls for the development of nuclear weapons as a possible defense against the West. The country recently conducted two nuclear tests. The first one, conducted in 2006, was a fizzle, but a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WC-135_Constant_Phoenix WC-135]] confirmed that the test was nuclear. The second test was conducted in 2009 and was much more succesful, and confirmed North Korea's status as a full-fleged nuclear power, albeit one with the world's smallest arsenal, somewhere in the single digits. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_North_Korean_nuclear_test#Yield yield]] was somewhere between one and twenty kilotons, probably in the single digits (2 to 6 kilotons, comparable to India and Pakistan's first nuclear tests).

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\n!!North [[/folder]]

[[folder: North
Korea - ''The Hooves of Chollima''

-->''Our
Chollima'']]
->''"Our
test... usher in a new age of prosperity in the Songun idea, a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a [[BlatantLies great prosperous powerful socialist nation!]]''
-->-'''Korea
nation!"''
-->-- '''Korea
Central News Agency'''

[[UsefulNotes/NorthKoreansWithNodongs North Korean Korea's]] ''Songun'' ("military first") policy calls for the development of nuclear weapons as a possible defense against the West. The country recently conducted two nuclear tests. The first one, conducted in 2006, was a fizzle, but a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WC-135_Constant_Phoenix WC-135]] confirmed that the test was nuclear. The second test was conducted in 2009 and was much more succesful, and confirmed North Korea's status as a full-fleged nuclear power, albeit one with the world's smallest arsenal, somewhere in the single digits. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_North_Korean_nuclear_test#Yield yield]] was somewhere between one and twenty kilotons, probably in the single digits (2 to 6 kilotons, comparable to India and Pakistan's first nuclear tests).



However, North Korea still faces serious challenges. For one thing, it doesn't have a lot of cash -- South Korea's military budget is more than the North's entire GDP. Secondly, while it has developed nuclear fission devices, it still needs to increase the yield to create a thermonuclear device. Similarly, while its rockets can put satellites in space, it needs to find a way of guiding them to targets, as well as miniaturizing warheads enough to deliver them via ICBM. Furthermore, though it has developed intermediate range missiles, such as the BM25 Musudan, it is an open question whether or not they can develop a warhead small enough to mount on the missile. Some have estimated, however, that it may be able to create simple artillery, SCUD, or air-delivered fission bombs in fairly large quantities within the next ten years.

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However, North Korea still faces serious challenges. For one thing, it doesn't have a lot of cash -- South Korea's military budget is more than the North's entire GDP. Secondly, while it has developed nuclear fission devices, it still needs to increase the yield to create a thermonuclear device. Similarly, while its rockets can put satellites in space, it needs to find a way of guiding them to targets, as well as miniaturizing warheads enough to deliver them via ICBM. Furthermore, though it has developed intermediate range missiles, such as the BM25 [=BM25=] Musudan, it is an open question whether or not they can develop a warhead small enough to mount on the missile. Some have estimated, however, that it may be able to create simple artillery, SCUD, or air-delivered fission bombs in fairly large quantities within the next ten years.
[[/folder]]



!!South Africa - ''The Next Mfecane''

-->''Why do they need them anyway?''
-->-'''Nelson Mandela'''

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!!South [[folder: South Africa - ''The Next Mfecane''

-->''Why
Mfecane'']]
->''"Why
do they need them anyway?''
-->-'''Nelson
anyway?"''
-->-- '''Nelson
Mandela'''




!!Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan - ''Regifting''

-->''25,000 nuclear warheads. One is missing.''
-->-'''''Film/TheSumOfAllFears''''', tagline.

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\n!!Ukraine, [[/folder]]

[[folder: Ukraine,
Belarus and Kazakhstan - ''Regifting''

-->''25,000
''Regifting'']]
->''"25,000
nuclear warheads. One is missing.''
-->-'''''Film/TheSumOfAllFears''''', tagline.
"''
-->-- '''{{Tagline}}''' for ''Film/TheSumOfAllFears''




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!!Iran - ''The Fist of God''

-->''The Iranian nation has never pursued and will never pursue nuclear weapons.''
-->-'''Ali Khamene'i'''

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!!Iran - [[folder:Iran ''The Fist of God''

-->''The
God'']]
->''"The
Iranian nation has never pursued and will never pursue nuclear weapons.''
-->-'''Ali
"''
-->-- '''Ali
Khamene'i'''




!!Syria - ''A Great Big Hole in the Desert''

-->''All the Israelis have done is dig a hole in the desert!''
-->-'''Bashar Al-Assad''', after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard Operation Orchard]]

Many suspect that Syria is developing nuclear weapons. Israel destroyed a suspected nuclear reactor (or at least a site where UsefulNotes/{{Syria}} seems to have been gathering materials to build a reactor) in an airstrike in 2007. Any further attempts have probably been utterly derailed by the ongoing civil war.

!!Taiwan - ''Trying Again?''

-->''Everyone knows we had the plan before. Perhaps we should try again.''
-->-'''Lee Teng-Hui''' during the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis 1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis]]

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\n!!Syria - [[/folder]]

[[folder: Syria
''A Great Big Hole in the Desert''

-->''All
Desert'']]
->''"All
the Israelis have done is dig a hole in the desert!''
-->-'''Bashar
desert!"''
-->-- '''Bashar
Al-Assad''', after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard Operation Orchard]]

Many suspect that Syria UsefulNotes/{{Syria}} is developing nuclear weapons. Israel destroyed a suspected nuclear reactor (or at least a site where UsefulNotes/{{Syria}} Syria seems to have been gathering materials to build a reactor) in an airstrike in 2007. Any further attempts have probably been utterly derailed by the ongoing civil war.

!!Taiwan -
war.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Taiwan
''Trying Again?''

-->''Everyone
Again?'']]
->''"Everyone
knows we had the plan before. Perhaps we should try again.''
-->-'''Lee
"''
-->-- '''Lee
Teng-Hui''' during the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis 1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis]]




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!! Argentina

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\n!! Argentina\n[[folder: Argentina]]




!! Brazil

Virtually the same as Argentina, including the rivalry part. The military dictatorship pursued a nuclear weapons program covertly, but never got very far, and since the restoration of democracy, the program has been completely disbanded. The Brazilian government remains touchy about its refinement technology, though, leading to a bit of a spat with the IAEA monitoring a plant, but this isn't because anyone seriously suspects of an illegal program; it's just that the government (rightly or wrongly) believed that inspections would be tantamount to industrial spying on their secret centrifugal axis technology, based on electromagnetism. And it was all sorted out in the end, to everyone's satisfaction. Meanwhile Brazil's nuclear ''power'' program never slowed down, and now they're [[http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1525347/brazil-join-elite-club-nations-building-nuclear-powered-submarines building their first nuclear submarine]].

!! Egypt - ''The Other Staff of Ra''

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\n!! Brazil\n\n[[/folder]]

[[folder: Brazil]]
Virtually the same as Argentina, including the rivalry part. The military dictatorship pursued a nuclear weapons program covertly, but never got very far, and since the restoration of democracy, the program has been completely disbanded. The Brazilian government remains touchy about its refinement technology, though, leading to a bit of a spat with the IAEA monitoring a plant, but this isn't because anyone seriously suspects of an illegal program; it's just that the government (rightly or wrongly) believed that inspections would be tantamount to industrial spying on their secret centrifugal axis technology, based on electromagnetism. And it was all sorted out in the end, to everyone's satisfaction. Meanwhile Brazil's nuclear ''power'' program never slowed down, and now they're [[http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1525347/brazil-join-elite-club-nations-building-nuclear-powered-submarines building their first nuclear submarine]].

!!
submarine.]]
[[/folder]]

[[folder:
Egypt - ''The Other Staff of Ra''
Ra'']]




!! Germany - ''Atomwaffen nicht einsatzbereit!''

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Germany - ''Atomwaffen nicht einsatzbereit!''
einsatzbereit!'']]




!! Japan - ''The Power of a Thousand Rising Suns''

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Japan - ''The Power of a Thousand Rising Suns''
Suns'']]




!! Italy -''Sol Invictus''

In the mid to late 1930s, the fascists provided funding for nuclear research by a team of physicists headed by Enrico Fermi, but he (along with many others) left for the United States when Mussolini passed anti-Semitic laws to bring fascism ideologically closer to Nazism. A team at the University of Milan picked up where they left off, but funding was cut when Italy joined the war.

!! Iraq

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Italy -''Sol Invictus''

''Sol Invictus'']]
In the mid to late 1930s, the fascists UsefulNotes/FascistItaly provided funding for nuclear research by a team of physicists headed by Enrico Fermi, but he (along with many others) left for the United States when Mussolini passed anti-Semitic laws to bring fascism ideologically closer to Nazism. A team at the University of Milan picked up where they left off, but funding was cut when Italy joined the war.

!! Iraq
war.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Iraq]]




!! Libya

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\n!! Libya\n[[/folder]]

[[folder: Libya]]




!! Romania - ''Even Our Enemies Shall Kneel.''

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Romania - ''Even Our Enemies Shall Kneel.''
Kneel'']]




!! Sweden - ''Extra Neutral Neutrons''

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Sweden - ''Extra Neutral Neutrons''
Neutrons'']]




!! Yugoslavia - ''Balkanuclearization''

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Yugoslavia - ''Balkanuclearization''
''Balkanuclearization'']]




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[[/folder]]



!! Nuclear sharing

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!! [[folder: Nuclear sharingSharing]]




!! Nuclear breakout capacity

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\n!! [[/folder]]

[[folder:
Nuclear breakout capacityBreakout Capacity]]




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[[/folder]]
20th Mar '17 4:49:03 PM karstovich2
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The reasons to do this are actually quite practical (and complex); it's more than just a way to avoid having to deal with the politics of being a nuclear power. A nuclear arsenal serves as a useful deterrent against Israel's many rather hostile Arab neighbors. It also provides a convenient justification to those Arab states to ''not'' attack Israel -- they really don't want to, having figured out some time before 1973 that fighting Israel is a fool's errand, but they have to keep up the appearance of hostility to Israel, if only because Israel provides an excellent boogeyman to allow these governments to keep power. A nuclear counterattack would be truly devastating. It shows, too -- notice how Saddam Hussein, for instance, was totally willing to use chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds but never considered using them against Israel, even during the UsefulNotes/GulfWar.

And keeping that nuclear arsenal a secret would prevent a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, as most other Middle Eastern states don't feel a pressing need to acquire nuclear weapons. This keeps the Middle East a non-nuclear area as a whole on paper. If Israel ever went public, several Arab countries and Iran would withdraw from the NPT -- and they'd be allowed to do so, this qualifying as a direct threat to their physical security. They don't ''want'' to, but they totally will -- the Middle East is funny like that. Secrecy also allows Israel to accept aid from the US, as US law prohibits foreign aid payments to countries which proliferate nuclear weapons technology outside the scope of the NPT (even if it's not a signatory). Finally, it provides Israel plausible (if cynical) deniability in case it decides one of its neighbors' reactors needs an extremely destructive visit from a squadron of F-16s; they can thus claim that they're preserving the regional balance of power.[[note]]They technically are; it's just that the balance of power happens to be heavily slanted in Israel's favor when it comes to nuclear weapons.[[/note]]

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The reasons to do this are actually quite practical (and complex); it's more than just a way to avoid having to deal with the politics of being a nuclear power. A nuclear arsenal serves as a useful deterrent against Israel's many rather hostile Arab neighbors. It also provides a convenient justification to those Arab states to ''not'' attack Israel -- they really don't want to, having figured out some time before 1973 that fighting Israel is a fool's errand, but they have to keep up the appearance of hostility to Israel, if only because Israel provides an excellent boogeyman to allow these governments to keep power. A nuclear counterattack would be truly devastating. It shows, too -- notice too--notice how Saddam Hussein, for instance, was totally willing to use chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds but never considered using them against Israel, even during the UsefulNotes/GulfWar.

And keeping that nuclear arsenal a secret "secret" would prevent a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, as most other Middle Eastern states don't feel a pressing need to acquire nuclear weapons. This keeps the Middle East a non-nuclear area as a whole on paper. If Israel ever officially went public, several Arab countries and Iran would withdraw from the NPT -- and NPT--and they'd be allowed to do so, this qualifying as a direct threat to their physical security. They don't ''want'' to, but they totally will -- the will--the Middle East is funny like that. Secrecy "Secrecy" also allows Israel to accept aid from the US, as US law prohibits foreign aid payments to countries which proliferate nuclear weapons technology outside the scope of the NPT (even if it's not a signatory). Finally, it provides Israel plausible (if cynical) deniability in case it decides one of its neighbors' reactors needs an extremely destructive visit from a squadron of F-16s; they can thus claim that they're preserving the regional balance of power.[[note]]They [[note]][[MetaphoricallyTrue They technically are; are]]; it's just that the balance of power happens to be heavily slanted in Israel's favor when it comes to nuclear weapons.[[/note]]
18th Mar '17 7:57:19 AM erforce
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-->-'''''TheSumOfAllFears''''', tagline.

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-->-'''''TheSumOfAllFears''''', -->-'''''Film/TheSumOfAllFears''''', tagline.
20th Feb '17 5:36:41 PM nombretomado
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Israel being a nuclear power is frequently referred to as "[[OpenSecret the worst kept secret]] in nuclear politics". While the Israeli government refuses to officially admit that they have nuclear weapons, multiple leaks have confirmed to anyone interested that hell yes, they do. The program was first exposed by ''[[BritishNewspapers The Times]]'', with the help of whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who helped work on the program. He was abducted in Rome by Mossad (in a HoneyTrap ploy which is an OldShame of ''The Times'', who were supposed to be protecting him) and faced nearly two decades of solitary confinement in Israel.

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Israel being a nuclear power is frequently referred to as "[[OpenSecret the worst kept secret]] in nuclear politics". While the Israeli government refuses to officially admit that they have nuclear weapons, multiple leaks have confirmed to anyone interested that hell yes, they do. The program was first exposed by ''[[BritishNewspapers ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Times]]'', with the help of whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who helped work on the program. He was abducted in Rome by Mossad (in a HoneyTrap ploy which is an OldShame of ''The Times'', who were supposed to be protecting him) and faced nearly two decades of solitary confinement in Israel.
8th Feb '17 8:54:16 PM Gregzilla
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-->-'''Bashar Al-Assad''', after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard Operation Orchard.]]

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-->-'''Bashar Al-Assad''', after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard Operation Orchard.]]
Orchard]]



During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Third Reich commissioned a heavy water production scheme for potential nuclear weapons use. That is, until the [[LaResistance Norwegian resistance]] movement successfully sabotaged it in 1943. Even without the sabotage, the Third Reich would still have been a long way off producing any warheads. According to [[http://www.luft46.com Luft46]], which has deleted the article in the meantime, they might or they might not have had a quasi-gun-type nuclear device (stacked plates of uranium separated by hydrogen-rich kerosene, to be compacted together in a critical mass upon impact instead of being fired at each other) in construction stage by the early months of 1945. Even then, the Nazi nuclear program was limited by a number of key factors; the lack of space to test a weapon, Hitler's lack of interest (which meant little funding), the loss of many prime scientists to other programs or Nazi repression, a perilous military situation (which necessitated frequent relocations of the project), and finally, a lack of delivery systems. Indeed, the Nazis' ''only'' aircraft close to nuclear capability was the Heinkel He-177 ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_177 Greif]]'' long-range bomber, a notoriously unreliable tub of a plane that would have been just as likely to crash into Germany as drop a bomb on Moscow or London.

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During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany the Third Reich Reich]] commissioned a heavy water production scheme for potential nuclear weapons use. That is, until the [[LaResistance Norwegian resistance]] movement successfully sabotaged it in 1943. Even without the sabotage, the Third Reich would still have been a long way off producing any warheads. According to [[http://www.luft46.com Luft46]], which has deleted the article in the meantime, they might or they might not have had a quasi-gun-type nuclear device (stacked plates of uranium separated by hydrogen-rich kerosene, to be compacted together in a critical mass upon impact instead of being fired at each other) in construction stage by the early months of 1945. Even then, the Nazi nuclear program was limited by a number of key factors; the lack of space to test a weapon, Hitler's lack of interest (which meant little funding), the loss of many prime scientists to other programs or Nazi repression, a perilous military situation (which necessitated frequent relocations of the project), and finally, a lack of delivery systems. Indeed, the Nazis' ''only'' aircraft close to nuclear capability was the Heinkel He-177 ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_177 Greif]]'' long-range bomber, a notoriously unreliable tub of a plane that would have been just as likely to crash into Germany as drop a bomb on Moscow or London.
29th Dec '16 9:38:52 AM nombretomado
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During TheApartheidEra, South Africa developed a small number of nuclear weapons, probably no more than ten. The very isolation that drove them to develop the weapons also limited their means of delivery to the aging English Electric Canberra. It also limited their design options; all South African nukes were of the inefficient and dangerous but simple and dirt-cheap (for a nuke) [[TypesOfNuclearWeapons gun-type]], rather than the implosion-type all other nuclear powers use for most of their weapons. In 1979, an American satellite detected what may have been South African (or joint Israeli-South African) nuclear test, now known as the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident Vela Incident]]. Rumours of collaboration with Israel's nuclear program abound but have never been proven; such a relationship is unsurprising because both Israel and South Africa were "pariahs of the West" who weren't aligned with the communists ''or'' the Americans, and they were known to cooperate on conventional weapons development. All weapons were dismantled shortly before the end of Apartheid, and South Africa went on to help establish the African nuclear-weapon-free zone.

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During TheApartheidEra, UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra, South Africa developed a small number of nuclear weapons, probably no more than ten. The very isolation that drove them to develop the weapons also limited their means of delivery to the aging English Electric Canberra. It also limited their design options; all South African nukes were of the inefficient and dangerous but simple and dirt-cheap (for a nuke) [[TypesOfNuclearWeapons gun-type]], rather than the implosion-type all other nuclear powers use for most of their weapons. In 1979, an American satellite detected what may have been South African (or joint Israeli-South African) nuclear test, now known as the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident Vela Incident]]. Rumours of collaboration with Israel's nuclear program abound but have never been proven; such a relationship is unsurprising because both Israel and South Africa were "pariahs of the West" who weren't aligned with the communists ''or'' the Americans, and they were known to cooperate on conventional weapons development. All weapons were dismantled shortly before the end of Apartheid, and South Africa went on to help establish the African nuclear-weapon-free zone.
6th Oct '16 10:07:41 AM FFShinra
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!![[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat India]] - ''The Smiling Buddha''

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!![[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat India]] - ''The Smiling Buddha''
Third Eye Of Bharat''
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