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18th Feb '18 11:10:13 AM nombretomado
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* During the [[RedOctober Russian Civil War]], there were several White warlords in the Russian Far East who were still fighting months or even years after the main White armies/governments in Crimea and Siberia were destroyed (1920). The most {{Determinator}}iffic of these was General Pepelyaev, who led a raid on several towns in Yakutia in 1923, when the LAST White remnant in the Maritime province was already fallen. Another notable example is Baron UsefulNotes/UngernSternberg, who kept raiding in the Soviet Union and Mongolia until his own men handed him over to the Bolsheviks and left for China and exile.

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* During the [[RedOctober [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober Russian Civil War]], there were several White warlords in the Russian Far East who were still fighting months or even years after the main White armies/governments in Crimea and Siberia were destroyed (1920). The most {{Determinator}}iffic of these was General Pepelyaev, who led a raid on several towns in Yakutia in 1923, when the LAST White remnant in the Maritime province was already fallen. Another notable example is Baron UsefulNotes/UngernSternberg, who kept raiding in the Soviet Union and Mongolia until his own men handed him over to the Bolsheviks and left for China and exile.
5th Feb '18 9:45:25 PM Cronosonic
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** In ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Dr. Gero and his Androids are technically this - the Red Ribbon Army is long defunct as an organisation, but Gero, one of its founding members, tries to continue the cause, though with a heavy focus on killing Goku, partly because Gero wants revenge because Goku is responsible for the Army's defeat in the original ''Dragon Ball'', though it's also out of practicality, since Goku would likely interfere anyway. [[spoiler:In both Trunks' timeline and in the regular timeline, his plans [[GoneHorriblyRight are a bit too effective]] in so many ways, but he never lives to see it happen.]] It's not drawn attention to, but the Red Ribbon Army iconography is notable on all of Gero's androids except Cell. The Red Ribbon Army as an organization also are the main antagonists of VideoGame/DragonBallFighterZ, even if [[spoiler:it's basically just Android 21 at that point.]]
2nd Feb '18 11:10:15 AM ZimFan89
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* In the ''Fanfic/HalloweenUnspectacular'' series, the main antagonists of the second MythArc are a group called PURITY, which has its origins in a group of Nazi military officials who fled to a secret base in Alaska after losing the war. Notably, the original leadership of the group wanted to continue fighting the US directly (even planning U-Boat attacks on the West Coast), but [[BigBad General Rausseman]] realized this was moronic, [[TheCoup took over]], and reorganized the group to abandon Nazism as an ideology. Instead, they now focus their hatred on [[FantasticRacism nonhumans and people with superpowers]].
1st Feb '18 5:11:18 PM nombretomado
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* UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}, with its quasi-communism, state-controlled industries, a strong arm President backed up by StateSec (which is even called [[MoscowCentre KGB]]) and a very Soviet-looking flag and coat of arms, can be seen as The Remnant of the Soviet Union. Minsk remains quite possibly the only former Soviet capital to have kept virtually all of their CommieLand monuments, even most Belorussians (roughly 70%) list Russian as their primary language and it remains an official language still used heavily in education and politics.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}, with its quasi-communism, state-controlled industries, a strong arm President backed up by StateSec (which is even called [[MoscowCentre [[UsefulNotes/MoscowCentre KGB]]) and a very Soviet-looking flag and coat of arms, can be seen as The Remnant of the Soviet Union. Minsk remains quite possibly the only former Soviet capital to have kept virtually all of their CommieLand monuments, even most Belorussians (roughly 70%) list Russian as their primary language and it remains an official language still used heavily in education and politics.
1st Feb '18 3:41:31 PM foxley
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* In the ''Series/MacGyver'' episode "Humanity", [=MacGyver=] tangles with the K-Force, a group of PraetorianGuard still loyal to Romania's dead tyrant Ceauşescu.

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* In the ''Series/MacGyver'' ''Series/MacGyver1985'' episode "Humanity", [=MacGyver=] tangles with the K-Force, a group of PraetorianGuard still loyal to Romania's dead tyrant Ceauşescu.
29th Jan '18 8:21:59 AM LordLoko
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* UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}, with its quasi-communism, state-controlled industries, a strong arm President backed up by StateSec (which is even called [[MoscowCentre KGB]]) and a very Soviet-looking flag and coat of arms, can be seen as The Remnant of the Soviet Union.
** Minsk remains quite possibly the only former Soviet capital to have kept virtually all of their CommieLand monuments.
** Most Belorussians (roughly 70%) list Russian as their primary language and it remains an official language still used heavily in education and politics.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}, with its quasi-communism, state-controlled industries, a strong arm President backed up by StateSec (which is even called [[MoscowCentre KGB]]) and a very Soviet-looking flag and coat of arms, can be seen as The Remnant of the Soviet Union.
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Union. Minsk remains quite possibly the only former Soviet capital to have kept virtually all of their CommieLand monuments.
** Most
monuments, even most Belorussians (roughly 70%) list Russian as their primary language and it remains an official language still used heavily in education and politics.politics.
** The "Rada of the Belarusian Democratic Republic" is the GovernmentInExile of the ''Belarusian People's Republic'', a republic founded during the russian civil war and that existed until 1919 when it was invaded by Bolshevik troops. After the [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp fall of the Soviet Union]], [[RightfulKingReturns many pre-communist governments-in-exile were able to take power back]] (Like in the Baltics or Poland), however, Belarus instead was taken over by the current government instead, as such, the Rada has been in exile since 1919, making it the oldest GovernmentInExile existing.
27th Jan '18 11:13:20 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member [[TheEndOfAnAge that had been extant in 1989]]. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people it was still around through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.

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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member [[TheEndOfAnAge that had been extant in 1989]].1989. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people it was still around through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.
27th Jan '18 11:12:17 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member [[TheEndOfAnEra that had been extant in 1989]]. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people [[IsThatStillOn it was still around]] through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.

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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member [[TheEndOfAnEra [[TheEndOfAnAge that had been extant in 1989]]. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people [[IsThatStillOn it was still around]] around through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.
27th Jan '18 11:10:50 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member that had been extant in 1989. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people it was still around through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.
* Carolina Wrestling Federation Mid-Atlantic is the last remnant of Wrestling Superstars Live, which itself was the last remnant of the Wrestling/AmericanWrestlingAssociation. There are other pieces of the AWA floating around in Australia and Japan, most notably in Wrestling/ProWrestlingZero1, but those are cases of foreign companies [[FullyAbsorbedFinale snatching up material]] as AWA and then WSL collapsed noisy thuds while CWF M-A was actively when the latter fell and survived.

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* The Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance lost the ability to compete with any of the national promotions that arose from the territorial system in 1994. It was, in fact almost completely forgotten in its own home country by 1996. The company had been around since 1948 and by 94 there wasn't a member [[TheEndOfAnEra that had been extant in 1989.1989]]. But even as a shadow of its formers self, the NWA never stopped operating and finally succeeded in establishing itself in Europe, as well as finding viewers in Africa and Asia to be [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff surprisingly loyal]]. In 2010, it even made an ever so slight resurgence, reminding people [[IsThatStillOn it was still around around]] through internet streaming. Even after a leadership shakeup caused more members to leave in 2012, it undauntedly launched an invasion of one of it's largest and most successful former members, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling, the next year.
* Carolina Wrestling Federation Mid-Atlantic is the last remnant of Wrestling Superstars Live, which itself was the last remnant of the Wrestling/AmericanWrestlingAssociation. There are other pieces of the AWA floating around in Australia and Japan, most notably in Wrestling/ProWrestlingZero1, but those are cases of foreign companies [[FullyAbsorbedFinale snatching up material]] as AWA and then WSL collapsed with noisy thuds while CWF M-A was actively when the latter fell and survived.
12th Jan '18 1:43:06 PM MasterN
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This happens pretty often [[TruthInTelevision in real life]], especially for defeated factions where [[LeaveNoSurvivors surrender's not an option]] -- or ones that [[SoreLoser aren't prepared to admit defeat just yet]]. In particularly nasty cases, two strong-but-not-overpowering factions can alternate between being really weak central governments and really strong Remnants, [[UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses sometimes for a generation or more]]. (And restoring peace to a population accustomed to war and violence is going to be tricky, too.)

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This happens pretty often [[TruthInTelevision in real life]], especially for defeated factions where [[LeaveNoSurvivors surrender's not an option]] -- or ones that [[SoreLoser aren't prepared to admit defeat just yet]].yet. In particularly nasty cases, two strong-but-not-overpowering factions can alternate between being really weak central governments and really strong Remnants, [[UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses sometimes for a generation or more]]. (And restoring peace to a population accustomed to war and violence is going to be tricky, too.)



This trope tends to involve a bit of MoralDissonance, out-of-universe MoralMyopia, or even ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Good guys who do this are {{Determinator}}s and LaResistance and extra heroic for fighting in the face of near-impossible odds. Bad guys are just, well, [[DesignatedVillain bad]], and exasperating for refusing to go away. See also YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters and VillainousLegacy. To characterize a faction more or less accurately, look at its history, the level of legitimacy it can claim, what it stands for, and -- above all -- the methods it uses.

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This trope tends to involve a bit of MoralDissonance, out-of-universe MoralMyopia, or even ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Good guys who do this are {{Determinator}}s and LaResistance and extra heroic for fighting in the face of near-impossible odds. Bad guys are just, well, [[DesignatedVillain bad]], and [[SoreLoser exasperating for refusing to go away.away]]. See also YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters and VillainousLegacy. To characterize a faction more or less accurately, look at its history, the level of legitimacy it can claim, what it stands for, and -- above all -- the methods it uses.
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