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18th Feb '17 9:13:14 AM SniperJ
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* In ''ComicBook/GIJoe2016'', splinters of Cobra that survived their collapse at the end of [[ComicBook/GIJoeIDW G.I. Joe vol. 4]] pose a constant threat.
18th Feb '17 4:24:46 AM Kadorhal
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-->-- '''501st stormtrooper''', ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront 2''

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-->-- '''501st stormtrooper''', ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront 2''
''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII''



* The Millennium Group from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' is a single battalion of Nazi soldiers who have voluntarily undergone [[OurVampiresAreDifferent artificial vampirification]] in their mission give World War II another go.
** Though they're a variation on the usual type, since they're not fighting for Nazism, but because they ''[[BloodKnight really]]'' [[BloodKnight like fighting]].

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* The Millennium Group from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' is a single battalion of Nazi soldiers who have voluntarily undergone [[OurVampiresAreDifferent artificial vampirification]] in their mission give World War II another go.
** Though they're
go. They're a variation on the usual type, since they're not fighting for Nazism, but because they ''[[BloodKnight really]]'' [[BloodKnight like fighting]].



* The ''[[Series/{{Firefly}} Serenity]]'' comic book introduces the Dust Devils, extremist former Browncoats continuing to wage a terrorist war against the Alliance, and reveals that [[spoiler:[[WrittenByTheWinners technically]], Zoe was once one of their number - she participated in a battle where neither the Alliance nor the Independents had been informed that the Alliance had won.]]

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* The ''[[Series/{{Firefly}} Serenity]]'' ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' comic book introduces the Dust Devils, extremist former Browncoats continuing to wage a terrorist war against the Alliance, and reveals that [[spoiler:[[WrittenByTheWinners technically]], Zoe was once one of their number - she participated in a battle where neither the Alliance nor the Independents had been informed that the Alliance had won.]]



-->'''Sulu''': But the cause they fought about no longer exists. Does it matter now which one was right?
-->'''Spock''': All that matters to them is their hate.
-->'''Uhura''': Do you suppose that's all they ever had, sir?
-->'''Kirk''': No, but that's all they have left.''[dejected]'' Warp factor 4, Mr. Sulu. Starbase...4.

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-->'''Sulu''': But the cause they fought about no longer exists. Does it matter now which one was right?
-->'''Spock''':
right?\\
'''Spock''':
All that matters to them is their hate.
-->'''Uhura''':
hate.\\
'''Uhura''':
Do you suppose that's all they ever had, sir?
-->'''Kirk''':
sir?\\
'''Kirk''':
No, but that's all they have left.left. ''[dejected]'' Warp factor 4, Mr. Sulu. Starbase...4.



--> '''Pilot''': I stand by what I said! We shouldn't be doing this at all, Sir! All this flying out and crashing into British and American ships - It's all wrong, sir!
--> '''Commanding Officer''': Wrong, Simpkins? Give me one good reason why it's wrong!
--> '''Pilot''': Well - The war ended thirty-two years ago, Sir!

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--> '''Pilot''': -->'''Pilot''': I stand by what I said! We shouldn't be doing this at all, Sir! All this flying out and crashing into British and American ships - It's all wrong, sir!
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sir!\\
'''Commanding Officer''': Wrong, Simpkins? Give me one good reason why it's wrong!
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wrong!\\
'''Pilot''': Well - The war ended thirty-two years ago, Sir!



* ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'': Despite losing Mother Base, the Metal Gear, half the army's aces, most of the army, AND [[spoiler:Venom Snake]], Big Boss reconsolidates his forces in Zanzibar Land ''using the very hostages Outer Haven took in the first game''. In essence, they used to think that Big Boss was only a deluded war maniac (which he may or may not be from all the brain damage) and his war against the secret robot leaders of the United States was just the insanity talking... until said leaders ordered a missile strike on the hostages to eliminate any witnesses, killing some of their families. The survivors enlisted under Big Boss' dying army to fight his losing secret war as one final spiteful revenge.

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'': Despite losing Mother Base, the Metal Gear, half the army's aces, most of the army, AND [[spoiler:Venom Snake]], Big Boss reconsolidates his forces in Zanzibar Land ''using the very hostages Outer Haven Heaven took in the first game''. In essence, they used to think that Big Boss was only a deluded war maniac (which he may or may not be from all the brain damage) and his war against the secret robot leaders of the United States was just the insanity talking... until said leaders ordered a missile strike on the hostages to eliminate any witnesses, killing some of their families. The survivors enlisted under Big Boss' dying army to fight his losing secret war as one final spiteful revenge.



* Abundant in the ''Franchise/{{Warcraft}}'' universe - enemies are never fully killed off, they periodically return after slowly rebuilding. Arthas, [[{{Irony}} of all]] [[OurLichesAreDifferent people]], lampshades this at one point by complaining "Doesn't anyone stay dead anymore?"

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* Abundant in the ''Franchise/{{Warcraft}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' universe - enemies are never fully killed off, they periodically return after slowly rebuilding. Arthas, [[{{Irony}} of all]] [[OurLichesAreDifferent people]], lampshades this at one point by complaining "Doesn't anyone stay dead anymore?"



** A small group of Rockets post-disappearance are fought in the [[VideoGameRemake remake]] of ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]]'' called ''[=FireRed=]'' and ''[=LeafGreen=]'' as part of ExtendedGameplay; it's implied that the last ones you fight are the same people who go on to lead the efforts in ''Gold and Silver''.

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** A small group of Rockets post-disappearance are fought in the [[VideoGameRemake remake]] ExtendedGameplay of the ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]]'' called remakes, ''[=FireRed=]'' and ''[=LeafGreen=]'' as part of ExtendedGameplay; ''[=LeafGreen=]''; it's implied that the last ones you fight are the same people who go on to lead the efforts in ''Gold ''Gold'' and Silver''.''Silver''.



** The series' recurring villainous faction is the Enclave, éminence grise members of the pre-war U.S. government who rode out the apocalypse in their bunker before emerging to retake the wasteland. Responsible for unscrupulous projects such as the F.E.V. and Vault Experiment, over the course of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' they try to kill everyone that doesn't match their criteria of "pure" human, which considering all the radiation is pretty much everybody except themselves and Vault Dwellers. They get defeated. So when you encounter them in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', you're fighting the remnant of The Remnant, and then in the ''Broken Steel'' expansion you fight the remnants of ''that''. As of ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' the Enclave is all but extinct, but you can convince a handful of survivors to rally for one last hurrah at the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, where they'll become the stuff of legends. That said, [[SequelHook the game hints that there are probably more Enclave holdouts in the Midwest, such as the Chicago outpost visited by ED-E.]]
** Many members of The Master's super mutant army survived his death, and by the time of ''Fallout 2'' eighty years later, the smarter ones have settled in peace in the city of Broken Hills. While super mutants can be encountered as [[DemonicSpiders particularly dangerous]] raiders, ''New Vegas'' reveals that most are happy to readjust to a peaceful life. Unfortunately, the [[EliteMooks Nightkin]] have had their sanity shattered due to use of their stealth technology, and still wage war on non-mutants for various crazy reasons.
** The Brotherhood of Steel technically qualifies, as they're descended from a group of former United States Army soldiers. In a twist, it's revealed in the first game that the soldiers were ''mutineers'' and the Brotherhood was effectively a secessionist movement. Unlike most examples on this page, they're [[BlackAndGreyMorality relatively]] heroic.
*** The Brotherhood of Steel itself seems to be heading this way after the events of ''New Vegas'' and ''Fallout 4'', potentially much more so if the players don't like the Brotherhood. First ''New Vegas'' canonized the Brotherhood NCR war, which either eradicated most west coast chapters or drove them into hiding like the Mojave chapter. ''Fallout 4'' reveals that the situation has gotten much worse since ''New Vegas'', as the NCR has managed to expand around/through the Mojave and threatens even more chapters. The tone of Elder Maxison's terminal entries make it sound as if the Eastcoast chapter of the Brotherhood is by far the most active chapter and that the Brotherhood as a whole depends on them.

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** The series' recurring villainous faction is the Enclave, éminence grise members of the pre-war U.S. government who rode out the apocalypse in their bunker before emerging to retake the wasteland. Responsible for unscrupulous projects such as the F.E.V. Forced Evolutionary Virus and Vault Experiment, over the course of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' they try to kill everyone that doesn't match their criteria of "pure" human, which considering all the radiation is pretty much everybody except themselves and Vault Dwellers.Dwellers who have never left their vaults. They get defeated. So when you encounter them in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', you're fighting the remnant of The Remnant, and then in the ''Broken Steel'' expansion you fight the remnants of ''that''. As of ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' the Enclave is all but extinct, but you can convince a handful of survivors to rally for one last hurrah at the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, where they'll become the stuff of legends. That said, [[SequelHook the game hints that there are probably more Enclave holdouts in the Midwest, such as the Chicago outpost visited by ED-E.]]
** Many members of The Master's super mutant army survived his death, and by the time of ''Fallout 2'' eighty years later, the smarter ones have settled in peace in the city of Broken Hills. While super mutants can be encountered as [[DemonicSpiders particularly dangerous]] raiders, ''New Vegas'' reveals that most are happy to readjust to a peaceful life. Unfortunately, the [[EliteMooks Nightkin]] have had their sanity shattered due to use of their stealth technology, and still wage war on non-mutants for various crazy reasons.
reasons, even as their non-nightkin brethren are working to cure them of their afflictions.
** The Brotherhood of Steel technically qualifies, as they're descended from a group of former United States Army soldiers. In a twist, it's revealed in the first game that the soldiers were ''mutineers'' and the Brotherhood was effectively a secessionist movement. Unlike most examples on this page, they're [[BlackAndGreyMorality relatively]] heroic.
heroic, if rather racist and exclusionist.
*** The Brotherhood of Steel itself seems to be heading this way after the events of ''New Vegas'' and ''Fallout 4'', potentially much more so if the players don't like the Brotherhood. First ''New Vegas'' canonized the Brotherhood NCR war, which either eradicated most west coast chapters or drove them into hiding like the Mojave chapter. ''Fallout 4'' reveals that the situation has gotten much worse since ''New Vegas'', as the NCR has managed to expand around/through the Mojave and threatens even more chapters. The tone of Elder Maxison's terminal entries make it sound as if the Eastcoast East coast chapter of the Brotherhood is by far the most active chapter and that the Brotherhood as a whole depends on them.



* The Eruseans from ''VideoGame/AceCombat'' do this twice. The first time, after sacking their capital Farbanti and splashing the [=V-22s=] carrying their military leaders in the penultimate mission of ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat04ShatteredSkies Shattered Skies]]'', a group of officers and the last 15 members of their pilot corps takes over the last trump card, Megalith, prompting the final AirstrikeImpossible. The second is covered in the Arcade Mode of ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar The Unsung War]]'', where Free Erusean forces attempt an uprising. The Leasath also do this after their commanding officer is defeated, though our IntrepidReporter narrator notes that they shouldn't last long.

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* The Eruseans from ''VideoGame/AceCombat'' do this twice. The first time, after sacking their capital Farbanti and splashing the [=V-22s=] carrying their military leaders in the penultimate mission of ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat04ShatteredSkies Shattered Skies]]'', a group of officers and the last 15 members of their pilot corps takes over the last trump card, Megalith, prompting the final AirstrikeImpossible. The second is covered in the Arcade Mode of ''[[VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar The Unsung War]]'', where Free Erusean forces a force calling itself "Free Erusea" attempt an uprising. The Leasath also do this after their commanding officer is defeated, defeated in ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatXSkiesOfDeception Skies of Deception]]'', though our IntrepidReporter narrator notes that they shouldn't last long.



** Ironically, there are UED remnants left in the K-Sector after their defeat, some of them serving as mercenaries; in fact, a lot of the remnants of old Terran factions appearing as mercenaries that can be hired in ''VideoGame/StarCraftIIWingsOfLiberty''.

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** Ironically, there are UED remnants left in the K-Sector after their defeat, some of them serving as mercenaries; in fact, a lot of the remnants of old Terran factions appearing appear as mercenaries that can be hired in ''VideoGame/StarCraftIIWingsOfLiberty''.
2nd Feb '17 11:42:36 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Carolina Wrestling Federation Mid-Atlantic is the last remnant of Wrestling Superstars Live, which itself was the last remnant of the Wrestling/AmericanWrestlingAssociation. There are other pieces of the AWA floating around in Australia and Japan, most notably in Wrestling/ProWrestlingZero1, but those are cases of foreign companies [[FullyAbsorbedFinale snatching up material]] as AWA and then WSL collapsed noisy thuds while CWF M-A was actively when the latter fell and survived.
26th Jan '17 11:52:59 PM PaulA
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* In the ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series by Creator/IsaacAsimov, a remnant of the former Galactic Empire remains for several centuries after the true empire collapses, maintaing the styles and iconography of it's previous incarnation. Because the Empire was so huge, a government in control of twenty planets is only a tiny remnant of the real thing.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series by Creator/IsaacAsimov, a remnant of the former Galactic Empire remains for several centuries after the true empire collapses, maintaing the styles and iconography of it's its previous incarnation. Because the Empire was so huge, a government in control of twenty planets is only a tiny remnant of the real thing.
26th Jan '17 6:29:43 PM Timjames98
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This tends to be a case of MoralDissonance or out-of-universe MoralMyopia. Good guys who do this are {{Determinator}}s and LaResistance and extra heroic for fighting in the face of near-impossible odds. Bad guys are just, well, [[DesignatedVillain bad]]. See also YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters and VillainousLegacy. The only way to objectively categorize it morally, is by knowing the history of the side, what it stands for and last but not least its methods.

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This tends to be a case of MoralDissonance or out-of-universe MoralMyopia. Good guys who do this are {{Determinator}}s and LaResistance and extra heroic for fighting in the face of near-impossible odds. Bad guys are just, well, [[DesignatedVillain bad]]. See also YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters and VillainousLegacy. The only way to objectively categorize it morally, is by knowing the history of the side, what it stands for and last but not least (most important of all) its methods.
10th Jan '17 8:40:23 PM kome360
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** The big reveal in the basement is that there's another nation free of titans ... but that just means they're a hundred years behind technologically, and mere months away from being hunted down like animals by Nazis in blimps for the war they lost previously (and being directly linked to the titans).
10th Jan '17 8:19:52 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'': Despite losing Mother Base, the Metal Gear, half the army's aces, most of the army, AND [[spoiler:Venom Snake]], Big Boss reconsolidates his forces in Zanzibar Land ''using the very hostages Outer Haven took in the first game''. In essence, they used to think that Big Boss was only a deluded war maniac (which he may or may not be from all the brain damage) and his war against the secret robot leaders of the United States was just the insanity talking... until said leaders ordered a missile strike on the hostages to eliminate any witnesses, killing some of their families.

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'': Despite losing Mother Base, the Metal Gear, half the army's aces, most of the army, AND [[spoiler:Venom Snake]], Big Boss reconsolidates his forces in Zanzibar Land ''using the very hostages Outer Haven took in the first game''. In essence, they used to think that Big Boss was only a deluded war maniac (which he may or may not be from all the brain damage) and his war against the secret robot leaders of the United States was just the insanity talking... until said leaders ordered a missile strike on the hostages to eliminate any witnesses, killing some of their families. The survivors enlisted under Big Boss' dying army to fight his losing secret war as one final spiteful revenge.
10th Jan '17 8:18:30 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'': Despite losing Mother Base, the Metal Gear, half the army's aces, most of the army, AND [[spoiler:Venom Snake]], Big Boss reconsolidates his forces in Zanzibar Land ''using the very hostages Outer Haven took in the first game''. In essence, they used to think that Big Boss was only a deluded war maniac (which he may or may not be from all the brain damage) and his war against the secret robot leaders of the United States was just the insanity talking... until said leaders ordered a missile strike on the hostages to eliminate any witnesses, killing some of their families.
31st Dec '16 8:33:54 PM ZimFan89
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* The main antagonists of ''FanFic/IWarrior'' are a group of renegade [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]] who refuse to accept the end of [[Literature/NewJediOrder their war]] with the Galactic Alliance. To this end, they've allied with the enigmatic Sith Lord known as [[BigBad the Master]], who has promised them revenge and power in exchange for aiding him [[FindTheCure find a cure]] for his [[BodyHorror illness]]. [[spoiler: In the end, however, he was just using them, and they surrender to the GA after the Master's defeat.]]
12th Dec '16 8:36:54 PM LordInsane
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** While there have been no story effects of it -- WordOfGod have indicated it was mostly an excuse to keep related PVE queues running[[note]]which looks odd in light of [[VoodooShark all the other PVE queues the story has gone past but still remains available]][[/note]] -- this happens at the end of the Iconian War. [[spoiler: The surviving Iconians decide to withdraw to Iconia with their forces and remain there if they're allowed to do so undisturbed... except for T'Ket, who swears she will continue to fight against the Klingon-Federation-Romulan Alliance (and since the Heralds are all sworn to one specific Iconian or the other she does have an army to continue to fight with).]]
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