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[[quoteright:198:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/The_Menacers.jpg]] [[caption-width-right:198:Arthur, Charlie, and Cpt. Stanley all [[SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou threaten the camera]]]] -->'''Cpt. Stanley''': ''Now, suppose you tell me what it is I want from you?''\\ '''Charlie Burns''': ''You want me to kill me brother.''\\ '''Cpt. Stanley''': ''I want you to kill your brother.'' 2005 Western, set in 1880s Australia. Directed by JohnHillcoat, with a screenplay by rock star NickCave. Cave and his bandmate Warren Ellis also wrote the soundtrack. It's really good. Cave described it as a story full of beautiful sadness and longing, intercut with moments of intense violence. Here's a rundown of the plot: Charlie Burns (GuyPearce) and his younger, mentally retarded brother Mikey are Irish criminals in Australia. After a shootout in a brothel, they are both arrested and imprisoned. During the interrogation, Cpt. Stanley (RayWinstone) gives Charlie the titular proposition: track down and kill the oldest Burns brother, Arthur (DannyHuston, son of JohnHuston and half-brother of [[AngelicaHuston Angelica]]), and both Charlie and Mikey will be released. Charlie is forced to choose which brother will die - the mentally retarded and innocent child, or the protective big brother and father figure. Until then, poor Mikey will remain in the Banyon Jail, and if the job is not done by Christmas Day, Mikey will be hanged and the manhunt for Charlie and Arthur will resume. Also stars EmilyWatson as the sensitive Martha Stanley, DavidWenham as the pillar of the community Eden Fletcher, and JohnHurt as the insane old bounty hunter Jellon Lamb. Cave, Ellis, and Hillcoat also collaborate on the 2009 film ''TheRoad'', and again on 2012's ''{{Lawless}}''. ---- !!This Aussie Western includes examples of: * AffablyEvil: Arthur * AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Arthur at the end.]] * AntiVillain: Arthur is a fascinating example, because he's a deeply human figure with an appreciation for beauty, but he's still undeniably a very, ''very'' bad man. * AxCrazy: Arthur and Sam * BedouinRescueService: Inverted. The natives spear Charlie and he is rescued by Arthur. * BetterThanItSoundsFilm * DisposableSexWorker: No-one appears bothered by the death of the Chinese prostitutes killed in the opening shootout. * BittersweetEnding: Compared to most stories, it's a DownerEnding. Compared with anything else NickCave has written, it's pretty happy. * BlackAndGrayMorality * BlackBestFriend: Both Stanley and Arthur have one, although Jacko and Two-Bob are Aborigines, not African blacks. In fact, [[spoiler: Two-Bob stabs Jacko to death for working with the white policemen. "Here's your knife back, ya dog."]] * BountyHunter: Jellon Lamb * BoxedCrook: Charlie. Fletcher is quite unhappy about the idea of letting a criminal loose in order to catch a worse one * CainAndAbel: Down to their first initials; C and A. * ClusterFBomb * CueTheSun * DistressedDamsel: Martha, at the end. * DreamingOfAWhiteChristmas: It's Australia, so it's a broiling hot summer. It doesn't stop Captain Stanley and Martha from imagining they are at home in England. * EmpathicEnvironment: Oh, the infinite and desolate plains of the Australian Outback. ** SceneryPorn * EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas: Or in this case, retarded younger brothers. * EvenEvilHasStandards: Charlie and Mikey leave Arthur after his MoralEventHorizon crossing. * ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: Much of the soundtrack has names like "Sad Violin Thing". * FakeNationality: Pearce and Huston do fake Irish accents. Pretty good ones, too. * FamousLastWords * GenreDeconstruction: Of TheWestern. A reviewer noted that the authority figure in this genre, the sheriff, is emasculated here. It's most evident in the scenes where Captain Stanley has his authority completely undermined by Eden Fletcher, and is reduced to a pathetic bystander. * HangingJudge: Eden Fletcher. * HeyItsThatGuy: If you have ever seen a movie with Aboriginals before, then you have seen David Gulpilil (Jacko). * IWasJustPassingThrough * JudgeJuryAndExecutioner: Stanley and Fletcher fight over this. * KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Fletcher]]. * KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing Sergeant Matthews. And then there's what he does to Jellon Lamb. Yes, Lamb is a horrible man, but ColdBloodedTorture is still crossing a line. * LandDownunder: Played in a very un-stereotypical way * MightyWhitey: Subverted/defied: the police think the Aborigines are sheltering Arthur, but in fact they hate and fear him. Some of them believe he's a werewolf. * MoralityPet: Two-Bob implies that Arthur's brothers were this to him, and that their absence has made him worse. * MoralMyopia: Arthur thinks like this. He loves his brothers and friends dearly, but for him, no one outside this little group is truly human. * NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Burns Gang, Eden Fletcher * ObliviouslyEvil: Martha. She coerces her husband into [[spoiler:having an essentially innocent boy flogged to death]] ... [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone but seems more horrified than pleased when she gets what she wanted]] * OffstageVillainy: Actually done very well here with Arthur. When he first appears he's a charming, cultured man... and then you see what he does to [[spoiler:Jellon Lamb...]] * PetTheDog: When Charlie is hurt, Arthur is clearly beside himself with worry, and [[spoiler:when Charlie reveals Stanley's plan, Arthur immediately forgives his betrayal and sets out to rescue Mikey.]] * PromotionToParent: Arthur is implied to have raised Charlie and Mikey by himself * PoliceBrutality: To put it mildly. * PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Most of the characters in this movie. Both Jellon Lamb and Sam are heavily racist. Seemingly subverted with Arthur (possibly due to his AffablyEvil nature) who keeps an aboriginal with him and is not heard speaking ill of any race. Despite being a complete psychopath. * PsychoForHire: Sergeant Matthews, who works under Captain Stanley. He is almost as horribly evil as any of the main villains, and leads a massacre of an aborigine village. Arthur may be worse than him, but when he murders this guy, it's his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. * PunchClockVillain: The third member of Arthur's gang, Two-Bob, is a hard to hate: he is a resourceful and BadAss aborigine who just wants his land back, and is notably absent for Arthur and Sam's big MoralEventHorizon. * PunctuatedPounding: "HELP! YOUR! FUCKING! SELF!" * RayWinstone * RuleOfThree: The three Burns brothers * TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which of your brothers will live. * SavingChristmas: The devastating climax. * ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: This is why Fletcher can make his own laws in the town. * SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: Danny Huston, Guy Pearce, And Ray Winstone Are About To Shoot You * ShoutOut: Jellon Lamb's name is likely a reference to the Scottish murder ballad "Jellon Grame", about a man who murders his pregnant girlfriend and takes her child as his own only to be murdered by said child years later, much as Charlie is forced to murder his "father", Arthur * ShownTheirWork: According to the other [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proposition Wiki]]: "As noted in behind-the-scenes features included on The Proposition DVD, the film is regarded as uncommonly accurate in depicting indigenous Australian culture of the late 1800s, and when filming in the outback, the cast and crew took great pains to follow the advice of indigenous consultants. In an interview included on the DVD, Lewis even compares the depiction of indigenous cultures in The Proposition to the landmark film The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith (1978)." * SignatureStyle: Nick Cave exercises his love of literary discussion, religious debating, and extreme amounts of violence. He even gets to work in some flowers in Martha's rose garden. * SmugSnake: Eden Fletcher, so very much. * SoundtrackDissonance: The hauntingly beautiful "Peggy Gordon" sung while the flogged Mikey is shrieking in agony. And again during a rape scene. * SoWhatDoWeDoNow: [[spoiler:Arthur's last words at the end.]] * TakeAThirdOption: Turns out not to work. * ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. Fletcher sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Fletcher [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]]. * TitleDrop: "I wish to present you with a proposition..." * TrojanPrisoner: Two-Bob does this to get the gang into the prison. * TrueCompanions: Arthur's band of outlaws * VillainsOutShopping: Or rather, reciting poetry. * WarriorPoet: Arthur, Sam, Captain Stanley, and Jellon Lamb. As has been noted, this is a Nick Cave movie. * WatchingTheSunset: The film's ending between [[spoiler:Charlie and his dying brother, Arthur.]] * TheWestern * WhatNowEnding: You were expecting anything else from NickCave? * WickedCultured: Jellon Lamb, "man of no little education", and Arthur Burns. In Arthur's case, the trope is used to humanize him, rather than its standard use as just another villainous trapping. * YourHeadAsplode: The natural consequences of averting PrettyLittleHeadshots, as seen on one of the Aboriginals who try to kill Charlie. ---- <<|{{Film}}|>>
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[[quoteright:198:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/The_Menacers.jpg]] [[caption-width-right:198:Arthur, Charlie, and Cpt. Stanley all [[SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou threaten the camera]]]] -->'''Cpt. Stanley''': ''Now, suppose you tell me what it is I want from you?''\\ '''Charlie Burns''': ''You want me to kill me brother.''\\ '''Cpt. Stanley''': ''I want you to kill your brother.'' 2005 Western, set in 1880s Australia. Directed by JohnHillcoat, with a screenplay by rock star NickCave. Cave and his bandmate Warren Ellis also wrote the soundtrack. It's really good. Cave described it as a story full of beautiful sadness and longing, intercut with moments of intense violence. Here's a rundown of the plot: Charlie Burns (GuyPearce) and his younger, mentally retarded brother Mikey are Irish criminals in Australia. After a shootout in a brothel, they are both arrested and imprisoned. During the interrogation, Cpt. Stanley (RayWinstone) gives Charlie the titular proposition: track down and kill the oldest Burns brother, Arthur (DannyHuston, son of JohnHuston and half-brother of [[AngelicaHuston Angelica]]), and both Charlie and Mikey will be released. Charlie is forced to choose which brother will die - the mentally retarded and innocent child, or the protective big brother and father figure. Until then, poor Mikey will remain in the Banyon Jail, and if the job is not done by Christmas Day, Mikey will be hanged and the manhunt for Charlie and Arthur will resume. Also stars EmilyWatson as the sensitive Martha Stanley, DavidWenham as the pillar of the community Eden Fletcher, and JohnHurt as the insane old bounty hunter Jellon Lamb. Cave, Ellis, and Hillcoat also collaborate on the 2009 film ''TheRoad'', and again on 2012's ''{{Lawless}}''. ---- !!This Aussie Western includes examples of: * AffablyEvil: Arthur * AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Arthur at the end.]] * AntiVillain: Arthur is a fascinating example, because he's a deeply human figure with an appreciation for beauty, but he's still undeniably a very, ''very'' bad man. * AxCrazy: Arthur and Sam * BedouinRescueService: Inverted. The natives spear Charlie and he is rescued by Arthur. * BetterThanItSoundsFilm * DisposableSexWorker: No-one appears bothered by the death of the Chinese prostitutes killed in the opening shootout. * BittersweetEnding: Compared to most stories, it's a DownerEnding. Compared with anything else NickCave has written, it's pretty happy. * BlackAndGrayMorality * BlackBestFriend: Both Stanley and Arthur have one, although Jacko and Two-Bob are Aborigines, not African blacks. In fact, [[spoiler: Two-Bob stabs Jacko to death for working with the white policemen. "Here's your knife back, ya dog."]] * BountyHunter: Jellon Lamb * BoxedCrook: Charlie. Fletcher is quite unhappy about the idea of letting a criminal loose in order to catch a worse one * CainAndAbel: Down to their first initials; C and A. * ClusterFBomb * CueTheSun * DistressedDamsel: Martha, at the end. * DreamingOfAWhiteChristmas: It's Australia, so it's a broiling hot summer. It doesn't stop Captain Stanley and Martha from imagining they are at home in England. * EmpathicEnvironment: Oh, the infinite and desolate plains of the Australian Outback. ** SceneryPorn * EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas: Or in this case, retarded younger brothers. * EvenEvilHasStandards: Charlie and Mikey leave Arthur after his MoralEventHorizon crossing. * ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: Much of the soundtrack has names like "Sad Violin Thing". * FakeNationality: Pearce and Huston do fake Irish accents. Pretty good ones, too. * FamousLastWords * GenreDeconstruction: Of TheWestern. A reviewer noted that the authority figure in this genre, the sheriff, is emasculated here. It's most evident in the scenes where Captain Stanley has his authority completely undermined by Eden Fletcher, and is reduced to a pathetic bystander. * HangingJudge: Eden Fletcher. * HeyItsThatGuy: If you have ever seen a movie with Aboriginals before, then you have seen David Gulpilil (Jacko). * IWasJustPassingThrough * JudgeJuryAndExecutioner: Stanley and Fletcher fight over this. * KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Fletcher]]. * KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing Sergeant Matthews. And then there's what he does to Jellon Lamb. Yes, Lamb is a horrible man, but ColdBloodedTorture is still crossing a line. * LandDownunder: Played in a very un-stereotypical way * MightyWhitey: Subverted/defied: the police think the Aborigines are sheltering Arthur, but in fact they hate and fear him. Some of them believe he's a werewolf. * MoralityPet: Two-Bob implies that Arthur's brothers were this to him, and that their absence has made him worse. * MoralMyopia: Arthur thinks like this. He loves his brothers and friends dearly, but for him, no one outside this little group is truly human. * NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Burns Gang, Eden Fletcher * ObliviouslyEvil: Martha. She coerces her husband into [[spoiler:having an essentially innocent boy flogged to death]] ... [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone but seems more horrified than pleased when she gets what she wanted]] * OffstageVillainy: Actually done very well here with Arthur. When he first appears he's a charming, cultured man... and then you see what he does to [[spoiler:Jellon Lamb...]] * PetTheDog: When Charlie is hurt, Arthur is clearly beside himself with worry, and [[spoiler:when Charlie reveals Stanley's plan, Arthur immediately forgives his betrayal and sets out to rescue Mikey.]] * PromotionToParent: Arthur is implied to have raised Charlie and Mikey by himself * PoliceBrutality: To put it mildly. * PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Most of the characters in this movie. Both Jellon Lamb and Sam are heavily racist. Seemingly subverted with Arthur (possibly due to his AffablyEvil nature) who keeps an aboriginal with him and is not heard speaking ill of any race. Despite being a complete psychopath. * PsychoForHire: Sergeant Matthews, who works under Captain Stanley. He is almost as horribly evil as any of the main villains, and leads a massacre of an aborigine village. Arthur may be worse than him, but when he murders this guy, it's his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. * PunchClockVillain: The third member of Arthur's gang, Two-Bob, is a hard to hate: he is a resourceful and BadAss aborigine who just wants his land back, and is notably absent for Arthur and Sam's big MoralEventHorizon. * PunctuatedPounding: "HELP! YOUR! FUCKING! SELF!" * RayWinstone * RuleOfThree: The three Burns brothers * TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which of your brothers will live. * SavingChristmas: The devastating climax. * ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: This is why Fletcher can make his own laws in the town. * SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: Danny Huston, Guy Pearce, And Ray Winstone Are About To Shoot You * ShoutOut: Jellon Lamb's name is likely a reference to the Scottish murder ballad "Jellon Grame", about a man who murders his pregnant girlfriend and takes her child as his own only to be murdered by said child years later, much as Charlie is forced to murder his "father", Arthur * ShownTheirWork: According to the other [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Proposition Wiki]]: "As noted in behind-the-scenes features included on The Proposition DVD, the film is regarded as uncommonly accurate in depicting indigenous Australian culture of the late 1800s, and when filming in the outback, the cast and crew took great pains to follow the advice of indigenous consultants. In an interview included on the DVD, Lewis even compares the depiction of indigenous cultures in The Proposition to the landmark film The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith (1978)." * SignatureStyle: Nick Cave exercises his love of literary discussion, religious debating, and extreme amounts of violence. He even gets to work in some flowers in Martha's rose garden. * SmugSnake: Eden Fletcher, so very much. * SoundtrackDissonance: The hauntingly beautiful "Peggy Gordon" sung while the flogged Mikey is shrieking in agony. And again during a rape scene. * SoWhatDoWeDoNow: [[spoiler:Arthur's last words at the end.]] * TakeAThirdOption: Turns out not to work. * ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. Fletcher sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Fletcher [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]]. * TitleDrop: "I wish to present you with a proposition..." * TrojanPrisoner: Two-Bob does this to get the gang into the prison. * TrueCompanions: Arthur's band of outlaws * VillainsOutShopping: Or rather, reciting poetry. * WarriorPoet: Arthur, Sam, Captain Stanley, and Jellon Lamb. As has been noted, this is a Nick Cave movie. * WatchingTheSunset: The film's ending between [[spoiler:Charlie and his dying brother, Arthur.]] * TheWestern * WhatNowEnding: You were expecting anything else from NickCave? * WickedCultured: Jellon Lamb, "man of no little education", and Arthur Burns. In Arthur's case, the trope is used to humanize him, rather than its standard use as just another villainous trapping. * YourHeadAsplode: The natural consequences of averting PrettyLittleHeadshots, as seen on one of the Aboriginals who try to kill Charlie. ---- <<|{{Film}}|>>[[redirect:Film/TheProposition]]
29th Dec '12 5:28:24 AM Craver357
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* OneSceneWonder: Jellon Lamb actually appears in ''two'' scenes, but he was catalogued back when that trope was called "Cardinal Wolsey"
7th Dec '12 5:56:14 PM Craver357
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* WatchingTheSunset: The film's ending between [[spoiler:Charlie and his dying brother, Arthur.]]
21st Nov '12 5:30:43 AM Craver357
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Arthur at the end.]]

* SoWhatDoWeDoNow: [[spoiler:Arthur's last words]]
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* SoWhatDoWeDoNow: [[spoiler:Arthur's last words]]words at the end.]]
10th Nov '12 7:03:02 PM Odon
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* DisposableSexWorker: No-one appears bothered by the death of the Chinese prostitutes killed in the opening shootout.
5th Nov '12 6:47:41 PM TVRulezAgain
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing [[CompleteMonster Sergeant Matthews]]. And then there's what he does to Jellon Lamb. Yes, Lamb is a horrible man, but ColdBloodedTorture is still crossing a line.
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing [[CompleteMonster Sergeant Matthews]].Matthews. And then there's what he does to Jellon Lamb. Yes, Lamb is a horrible man, but ColdBloodedTorture is still crossing a line.

* ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. [[CompleteMonster Fletcher]] sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Fletcher [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]].
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* ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. [[CompleteMonster Fletcher]] Fletcher sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Fletcher [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]].
30th Oct '12 7:26:12 AM TheManWithoutABody
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Cave, Ellis, and Hillcoat also collaborate on the 2009 film ''TheRoad''.
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Cave, Ellis, and Hillcoat also collaborate on the 2009 film ''TheRoad''. ''TheRoad'', and again on 2012's ''{{Lawless}}''.

Cave, Ellis, and Hillcoat also collaborate on the 2009 film ''TheRoad''. * AntiVillain: Arthur is a fascinating example, because he's a deeply human figure with an appreciation for beauty, but he's still undeniably a very, ''very'' bad man.

* BedouinRescueService: Subverted. The natives spear Charlie and he is rescued by Arthur
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* BedouinRescueService: Subverted. Inverted. The natives spear Charlie and he is rescued by ArthurArthur.

* KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing [[CompleteMonster Sergeant Matthews]].
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Arthur is a raging psychopath, yes, but no one had any problem with his killing [[CompleteMonster Sergeant Matthews]]. And then there's what he does to Jellon Lamb. Yes, Lamb is a horrible man, but ColdBloodedTorture is still crossing a line.

* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Most of the characters in this movie. Both Jellon Lamb and Sam are heavily racist. Seemingly Subverted with Arthur (possibly due to his AffablyEvil nature) who keeps an aboriginal with him and is not heard speaking ill of any race. Despite being a complete psychopath.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Most of the characters in this movie. Both Jellon Lamb and Sam are heavily racist. Seemingly Subverted subverted with Arthur (possibly due to his AffablyEvil nature) who keeps an aboriginal with him and is not heard speaking ill of any race. Despite being a complete psychopath.

* ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. [[CompleteMonster Fletcher]] sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Wenham [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]].
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* ATasteOfTheLash: [[NoKillLikeOverkill More than a taste]]. [[CompleteMonster Fletcher]] sentences Mikey to a hundred lashes from the cat o' nine tails. They don't reach forty lashes before the previously baying audience have all [[NauseaFuel turned away in disgust and Mikey's back is reduced to fleshy ribbons]]. A blood-spattered Wenham Fletcher [[MoralEventHorizon still wants the full hundred lashes]].

* TrojanPrisoner: Two-Bob.
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* TrojanPrisoner: Two-Bob.Two-Bob does this to get the gang into the prison.

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* TrojanPrisoner: Two-Bob.WickedCultured: Jellon Lamb, "man of no little education", and Arthur Burns. In Arthur's case, the trope is used to humanize him, rather than its standard use as just another villainous trapping.
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* IWasJustPassingThrough
25th Jun '12 7:59:09 PM Xtifr
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trope renamed at TRS (plus some alphabetization fixes)
* {{Nakama}}: Arthur's band of outlaws

* {{Nakama}}: Arthur's band TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which of outlawsyour brothers will live.

* TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which of your brothers will live. * TheWestern

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* TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which TrueCompanions: Arthur's band of your brothers will live. * TheWesternoutlaws

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* TheSadisticChoice: Right there in the premise: choose which of your brothers will live. * TheWestern
7th Apr '12 1:54:05 PM ZemplinTemplar
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