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31st Dec '16 12:00:21 PM MrOrangeHorseman
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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be [[EnemiesWithDeath]]. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently tough ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].

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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be [[EnemiesWithDeath]].EnemiesWithDeath. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently tough ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].
31st Dec '16 11:59:28 AM MrOrangeHorseman
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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be [[TitleDrop Enemies With Death]]. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently tough ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].

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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be [[TitleDrop Enemies With Death]].[[EnemiesWithDeath]]. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently tough ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].
12th Dec '16 8:22:05 PM Observance
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-->'''SCP-1440:''' Should you choose to challenge Death to a game of cards for your life, there is one thing you must never do.\\
'''Dr. ████:''' And what is that?\\
'''SCP-1440:''' Win.

23rd Sep '16 3:27:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* Incredibly minor MarvelComics villain [[IncrediblyLamePun Deadly Ernest]] gained immortality after refusing to die during WorldWarI and fighting off Death itself; he became an immortal with an uncontrollable TouchOfDeath, something he discovered when he returned home and embraced his wife.

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* Incredibly minor MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics villain [[IncrediblyLamePun Deadly Ernest]] Ernest gained immortality after refusing to die during WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and fighting off Death itself; he became an immortal with an uncontrollable TouchOfDeath, something he discovered when he returned home and embraced his wife.



* The french comic ''{{Zorn et Dirna}}'' has this as its central premise. A king trapped Death in a magic mirror so he'd never die. Neither does anyone else, and while the king got the unaging bonus (due to looking at Death in the mirror, a privilege only he enjoys), no one else did, resulting in people aging into still-living zombies, crying for release (killing is only possible via decapitation, and even then the dead person's soul is transferred to the killer's). The government deal with this by rounding up the aged (even those who still want to live a bit longer) and sending them to "Les Laminoirs" to have them decapitated (causing the soul to leave the body and possess the nearest person) and storing the souls in the bodies of criminals. Needless to say, it's a short-term solution at best, and many of the hosts become quite dangerous and crazy from housing hundreds or thousands of desperate souls.

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* The french comic ''{{Zorn ''ComicBook/{{Zorn et Dirna}}'' has this as its central premise. A king trapped Death in a magic mirror so he'd never die. Neither does anyone else, and while the king got the unaging bonus (due to looking at Death in the mirror, a privilege only he enjoys), no one else did, resulting in people aging into still-living zombies, crying for release (killing is only possible via decapitation, and even then the dead person's soul is transferred to the killer's). The government deal with this by rounding up the aged (even those who still want to live a bit longer) and sending them to "Les Laminoirs" to have them decapitated (causing the soul to leave the body and possess the nearest person) and storing the souls in the bodies of criminals. Needless to say, it's a short-term solution at best, and many of the hosts become quite dangerous and crazy from housing hundreds or thousands of desperate souls.
19th Sep '16 10:40:22 PM PaulA
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* In the ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the first book ''On a Pale Horse'' centers about a man (Zane) who, when he goes to kill himself, refuses and ends up killing Death. Then, he must assume Death's office and duties, kicking off the main plot.

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* In the ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the first book ''On a Pale Horse'' ''Literature/OnAPaleHorse'' centers about a man (Zane) who, when he goes to kill himself, refuses and ends up killing Death. Then, he must assume Death's office and duties, kicking off the main plot.
13th Aug '16 5:42:23 PM TheCuza
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** In the Season 10 finale, [[spoiler:they actually manage to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu kill Death]], using his own scythe. However, all the ''other'' Reapers are quite pissed that somebody killed their boss, not to mention that they're sick of the two of them dying and being resurrected so often. A Reaper named Billie tells Sam that the next time they die will be the last time, and their souls will be sent to "[[TheNothingAfterDeath the Empty]]" where resurrection is impossible.]]
31st Jul '16 10:12:43 AM Yuihime
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* A milder version shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', when [[http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2006-03-12 Li'l E flips off God and runs away, only to be told that there's nowhere to hide from Him]].
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4th Jul '16 10:16:11 AM ChaoticNovelist
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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be EnemiesWithDeath. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently {{Badass}} ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].

There's just one small problem: these cosmic entities usually play a pretty important role in the universe and afterlife. Beating them to a pulp just means you've pissed off the guy who's in charge of your eternal reward. He/she/it may decide to punt you into {{Hell}} instead of {{Heaven}}, or simply trap you in [[TheUndead an unnatural state between life and death]] when it would be your time to "die." Even {{Immortality}} is no guarantee of safety, because Death will make sure [[WhoWantsToLiveForever the hero regrets eternal life]] one way or another. Heck, Death may even [[BarredFromTheAfterlife levy immortality]] [[WhoWantsToLiveForever as the punishment]]!

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As nemeses go, you can't do worse than be EnemiesWithDeath. [[TitleDrop Enemies With Death]]. TheGrimReaper isn't unbeatable, he can be whipped into submission by a sufficiently cunning GuileHero with ThePlan or a sufficiently {{Badass}} tough ActionHero with a good enough weapon or a [[ChessWithDeath nice game of Chess]].

There's just one small problem: these cosmic entities usually play a pretty important role in the universe and afterlife. Beating them to a pulp just means you've pissed off the guy who's in charge of your eternal reward. He/she/it may decide to punt you into {{Hell}} instead of {{Heaven}}, or simply trap you in [[TheUndead an unnatural state between life and death]] when it would be your time to "die." Even {{Immortality}} is no guarantee of safety, because Death will make sure [[WhoWantsToLiveForever the hero regrets eternal life]] one way or another. Heck, Death may even [[BarredFromTheAfterlife levy immortality]] [[WhoWantsToLiveForever immortality as the punishment]]!



** Awesome (if somewhat [[NarmCharm narmy]]) aversion in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence''. After whipping Death into submission, Leon basically states that "Death" is only a psychopomp (which is why he ''could''), and that as a good, God-fearing Christian, he'll be going to Heaven anyway in the end, so it doesn't matter.
*** This is especially significant if you consider [[spoiler: Mathias]]'s conviction that GodIsEvil and attempts to make Leon feel similarly-- Leon is ''betting his immortal soul'' on the exact opposite being true, even after [[TraumaCongaLine everything that's happened to him]]. Narmy or not, [[{{Badass}} there is no shaking this man's faith]].

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** Awesome (if somewhat [[NarmCharm narmy]]) aversion in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence''. After whipping Death into submission, Leon basically states that "Death" is only a psychopomp {{psychopomp}} (which is why he ''could''), and that as a good, God-fearing Christian, he'll be going to Heaven anyway in the end, so it doesn't matter.
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matter. This is especially significant if you consider [[spoiler: Mathias]]'s conviction that GodIsEvil and attempts to make Leon feel similarly-- Leon is ''betting his immortal soul'' on the [[GodIsGood exact opposite being true, true]], even after [[TraumaCongaLine everything that's happened to him]]. Narmy or not, [[{{Badass}} [[RealMenLoveJesus there is no shaking this man's faith]].
1st Jul '16 2:35:34 PM PixelKnight
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** The avatar of a trickster god who stole his own soul back via a deathbed repentance. The god was so ([[PetTheDog sincerely]]) touched by this final act of devotion that he decided the only way to properly repay him was by granting him demigod status. [[BlessedWithSuck In limbo]].

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** The avatar A master thief who was also a devout worshipper of a trickster Olidammara, god of thieves and pranksters, who stole his own soul back from his god via a deathbed repentance. The god Olidammara was so ([[PetTheDog sincerely]]) touched by this final act of devotion that devotion, but also left with a problem. If he acknowledged it as a truly epic prank, he would claim the avatar's soul and render the prank meaningless. If not, he would lose the soul of one of his greatest devotees, who would. Eventually, he decided the only way to properly repay him was by granting him demigod status. [[BlessedWithSuck In limbo]].
29th Jun '16 7:45:30 AM TheCheshireCat
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** One inversion exists in Hob Gadling's story, where he gains immortality by basically shit-talking Death. Death finds this amusing rather than enraging. Notably, this isn't even a case of WhoWantsToLiveForever/BlessedWithSuck where living forever turns out to be a punishment for his arrogance - Death is still completely willing to take him when he decides he's lived long enough, no strings attached.
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