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1st Aug '16 5:30:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* Classic literary example: Dr. Pangloss in Voltaire's ''{{Candide}}''. His insistence that "all is for the best in this best of all possible worlds" leads his faithful student Candide to wonder [[CrapsackWorld how horrible the other worlds could be]].

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* Classic literary example: Dr. Pangloss in Voltaire's ''{{Candide}}''.''Literature/{{Candide}}''. His insistence that "all is for the best in this best of all possible worlds" leads his faithful student Candide to wonder [[CrapsackWorld how horrible the other worlds could be]].



* Pierre Bezukhov falls into this characterization often in ''WarAndPeace'', and is made more tragic in that he attempts to enact his ideals on the real world only to be deceived into thinking he's making a difference.

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* Pierre Bezukhov falls into this characterization often in ''WarAndPeace'', ''Literature/WarAndPeace'', and is made more tragic in that he attempts to enact his ideals on the real world only to be deceived into thinking he's making a difference.



* [[GeniusBruiser Ham]] in the ''{{Mistborn}}'' books is prone to annoying his friends by constantly musing about philosophical questions at them. His favorite victims are [[DeadpanSnarker Breeze]] and [[spoiler:Lord Cett]], because [[VitriolicBestBuds they always argue with him]].

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* [[GeniusBruiser Ham]] in the ''{{Mistborn}}'' ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' books is prone to annoying his friends by constantly musing about philosophical questions at them. His favorite victims are [[DeadpanSnarker Breeze]] and [[spoiler:Lord Cett]], because [[VitriolicBestBuds they always argue with him]].
24th Jul '16 5:38:55 PM nombretomado
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* Aion, the villain of ''ChronoCrusade'' has a tendency to go into long speeches about how demons need to "break free from the system". Chrono is presented as Aion's much more emotional (and less rational) counterpart, but when the plot calls for one of the heroes to be philosophical it's normally him. By the end of the manga they're trading speeches back and forth.

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* Aion, the villain of ''ChronoCrusade'' ''Manga/ChronoCrusade'' has a tendency to go into long speeches about how demons need to "break free from the system". Chrono is presented as Aion's much more emotional (and less rational) counterpart, but when the plot calls for one of the heroes to be philosophical it's normally him. By the end of the manga they're trading speeches back and forth.
24th Jul '16 12:53:28 AM Morgaus
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* Surprisingly, [[TerribleTrio Team Rocket's]] Meowth is one of these in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime. It always involves him looking at a full moon, maybe with a Pokemon from Ash's team (and his advice is quite helpful -- Chimchar got used to being with the more friendly atmosphere after one of these moments). This makes the kitty [[CatsAreMean not be as bad as he seems sometimes]].

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* Surprisingly, [[TerribleTrio Team Rocket's]] Meowth is one of these in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime. It always involves him looking at a full moon, maybe with a Pokemon from Ash's team (and his advice is quite helpful -- Chimchar got used to being with the more friendly atmosphere after one of these moments). This makes the kitty [[CatsAreMean [[HiddenHeartofGold not be as bad as he seems sometimes]].
4th Jul '16 2:38:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* Citan Uzuki from ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'', doubtlessly. Of course, he is also TheObiWan, TheProfessor, a DoubleAgent, [[ImplausibleFencingPowers the best swordsman in the world]], and rather the MagnificentBastard, and therefore a living reminder that one very well ought to BewareTheNiceOnes.

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* Citan Uzuki from ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'', doubtlessly. Of course, he is also TheObiWan, TheProfessor, a DoubleAgent, [[ImplausibleFencingPowers the best swordsman in the world]], and rather the MagnificentBastard, and therefore a living reminder that one very well ought to BewareTheNiceOnes.
28th May '16 7:49:32 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* ''MahouSenseiNegima'' has Yue doing this on occasion. She usually engages in WallsOfText only to find that everyone else is ignoring her.

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* ''MahouSenseiNegima'' ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' has Yue doing this on occasion. She usually engages in WallsOfText only to find that everyone else is ignoring her.
8th May '16 9:48:49 PM nombretomado
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* Wilson from ''HomeImprovement'' tended to deliver the show's [[AnAesop aesop]] with stories and quotes, much to the confusion of Tim Allen's character. However, even though the show was a comedy, he was almost never the ButtMonkey.

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* Wilson from ''HomeImprovement'' ''Series/HomeImprovement'' tended to deliver the show's [[AnAesop aesop]] with stories and quotes, much to the confusion of Tim Allen's character. However, even though the show was a comedy, he was almost never the ButtMonkey.
6th May '16 8:58:37 AM Morgenthaler
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While usually highly intelligent, ThePhilosopher differs from TheSmartGuy and TheStrategist in one vital area; while the philosopher is clever, his great thoughts rarely amount to any direct, effective action. It's up to the more practical heroes to make sense of what he's saying and implement a plan.

The characterisation of ThePhilosopher is dependent on the nature of the show/book/comic they're appearing in. A straight fantasy tale will usually make the Philosopher sage-like, a valuable source of information for the characters. If it's a video game, this is probably the guy to talk to if you want a hint as to what to do next - though he'll probably tell you in a roundabout way. Instead of saying "Go to the harbour," he's likely to muse out loud that all life comes from the sea. Usually male, he's generally a mage, a sage, or a bookkeeper of some sort. In action series, though, the Philosopher might be surprising - in superhero teams ''anyone'' can fall into this category, as even the most vicious and seemingly cynical member of the team can suddenly start quoting Creator/{{Socrates}}.

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While usually highly intelligent, ThePhilosopher the Philosopher differs from TheSmartGuy and TheStrategist in one vital area; while the philosopher is clever, his great thoughts rarely amount to any direct, effective action. It's up to the more practical heroes to make sense of what he's saying and implement a plan.

The characterisation of ThePhilosopher the Philosopher is dependent on the nature of the show/book/comic they're appearing in. A straight fantasy tale will usually make the Philosopher sage-like, a valuable source of information for the characters. If it's a video game, this is probably the guy to talk to if you want a hint as to what to do next - though he'll probably tell you in a roundabout way. Instead of saying "Go to the harbour," he's likely to muse out loud that all life comes from the sea. Usually male, he's generally a mage, a sage, or a bookkeeper of some sort. In action series, though, the Philosopher might be surprising - in superhero teams ''anyone'' can fall into this category, as even the most vicious and seemingly cynical member of the team can suddenly start quoting Creator/{{Socrates}}.



Compare TheFatalist. The WarriorPoet may have aspects of this... Indeed, if ThePhilosopher holds his own in combat, they'll often overlap. He may also be an EruditeStoner. If he holds a position of power, he would be a [[ThePhilosopherKing Philosopher King]].

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Compare TheFatalist. The WarriorPoet may have aspects of this... Indeed, if ThePhilosopher the Philosopher holds his own in combat, they'll often overlap. He may also be an EruditeStoner. If he holds a position of power, he would be a [[ThePhilosopherKing Philosopher King]].



* Itsuki of ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. Not only effective as ThePhilosopher but nearly as difficult to follow as his ancient Greek forerunners. Just trying to make sense of what he's saying is a mental workout, for the audience as well as Kyon.
** [[MeaningfulName Kyon]] himself is a more down-to-Earth version of ThePhilosopher (especially in the books), but unlike Itsuki, usually [[FauxlosophicNarration keeps it to himself]].

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* Itsuki of ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. Not only effective as ThePhilosopher the Philosopher but nearly as difficult to follow as his ancient Greek forerunners. Just trying to make sense of what he's saying is a mental workout, for the audience as well as Kyon.
** [[MeaningfulName Kyon]] himself is a more down-to-Earth version of ThePhilosopher the Philosopher (especially in the books), but unlike Itsuki, usually [[FauxlosophicNarration keeps it to himself]].



* Most of the characters in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' do their fair bit of philosophizing when any topics subject to an AuthorTract come up in polite conversation, but Ivan Karamazov and Father Zosima come across most strongly as ThePhilosopher in their discussions with the protagonist.

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* Most of the characters in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' do their fair bit of philosophizing when any topics subject to an AuthorTract come up in polite conversation, but Ivan Karamazov and Father Zosima come across most strongly as ThePhilosopher the Philosopher in their discussions with the protagonist.



* Lister, in ''Series/RedDwarf'', was surprisingly effective as ThePhilosopher, but his more intelligent insights and musings were often undermined by the plot - ''Series/RedDwarf'' is, after all, a comedy.

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* Lister, in ''Series/RedDwarf'', was surprisingly effective as ThePhilosopher, the Philosopher, but his more intelligent insights and musings were often undermined by the plot - ''Series/RedDwarf'' is, after all, a comedy.



** ''Series/BabylonFive'' in general likes to wax philosophical, and most of the characters get at least an occasional turn in ThePhilosopher's chair. At its best, the ideas it puts forward are genuinely thought-provoking and contribute to the great depth and richness of the show. At its worst, it devolves into ContemplateOurNavels and FauxlosophicNarration.

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** ''Series/BabylonFive'' in general likes to wax philosophical, and most of the characters get at least an occasional turn in ThePhilosopher's the Philosopher's chair. At its best, the ideas it puts forward are genuinely thought-provoking and contribute to the great depth and richness of the show. At its worst, it devolves into ContemplateOurNavels and FauxlosophicNarration.



* In ''{{Transformers}}: WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Dinobot]] spent the second season see-sawing between ThePhilosopher and the WarriorPoet, pondering heavy questions of honor, loyalty, and free will that have started hitting a little too close to home.

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* In ''{{Transformers}}: WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Dinobot]] spent the second season see-sawing between ThePhilosopher the Philosopher and the WarriorPoet, pondering heavy questions of honor, loyalty, and free will that have started hitting a little too close to home.
24th Mar '16 8:58:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* A surprising number of these moments can be can be found in the film ''ConanTheBarbarian'', first with Conan's father (whose speech becomes a [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Sword]]), and later in various conversations with Subotai.

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* A surprising number of these moments can be can be found in the film ''ConanTheBarbarian'', ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982'', first with Conan's father (whose speech becomes a [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Sword]]), and later in various conversations with Subotai.



* Pvt. Witt, [[MessianicArchetype the messianic character]] in ''TheThinRedLine'', is responsible for raising most of the film's questions in his [[InnerMonologue Inner Monologues]].

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* Pvt. Witt, [[MessianicArchetype the messianic character]] in ''TheThinRedLine'', ''Film/TheThinRedLine'', is responsible for raising most of the film's questions in his [[InnerMonologue Inner Monologues]].
12th Mar '16 1:14:04 AM GrammarNavi
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-->--''Theatre/AFunnyThingHappenedOnTheWayToTheForum''

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-->--''Theatre/AFunnyThingHappenedOnTheWayToTheForum''
-->--''Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI''
12th Mar '16 1:01:12 AM GrammarNavi
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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''TillWeHaveFaces'', Oruals' Greek tutor, the Fox, serves this role. He is the king's most valued adviser, as well was Orual's, when she becomes queen.

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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''TillWeHaveFaces'', ''Literature/TillWeHaveFaces'', Oruals' Greek tutor, the Fox, serves this role. He is the king's most valued adviser, as well was Orual's, when she becomes queen.
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