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23rd Jul '17 5:25:46 PM PatrickDCoffman
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* In ''WebOriginal/{{Unichat}}'', the administrators wield immense political power towards unknown ends. [[FromBeyondTheFourthWall The readers]] are coming to be regarded this way in-universe.
3rd Jul '17 6:32:21 PM dbdude01
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* {{Gargoyles}} has the Illuminati, whose ultimate plans were only revealed to be somehow connected to the anticipated return of King Arthur in 2198.
27th Jun '17 8:22:07 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the Psijic Order plays this role in the College of Winterhold storyline, showing up occasionally to tell the Dragonborn what they need to do to avert the oncoming disaster. [[spoiler:In the end, they decide that {{the world is not ready}} for something like the Eye of Magnus and decide to take it to their island of Artaeum while also declaring you Arch-Mage of the College.]]

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* In ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The An-Xileel, an [[LizardFolk Argonian]] political party with close ties to
the Hist ([[WiseTree sentient]] trees native to the Black Marsh who the Argonians worship), rule Argonia during the 4th Era and appear to be this. It is speculated that their close ties to the {{omniscient}} Hist give them foresight into upcoming events and allow them to act with this advance knowledge. They rose to power during the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Crisis]], during which it is said the actions of the An-Xileel are the sole reason Black Marsh remained unconquered by the forces of Mehrunes Dagon. They are strong anti-Imperialists and successfully pushed for Argonia's secession in the early years of the 4th Era.
** In ''[[Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the [[TheMagocracy
Psijic Order Order]] plays this role in the College of Winterhold storyline, showing up occasionally to tell the Dragonborn [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] what they need to do to avert the oncoming disaster. [[spoiler:In the end, they decide that {{the world is not ready}} for something like the Eye of Magnus and decide to take it to their island of Artaeum while also declaring you Arch-Mage of the College.]]
17th Jun '17 9:32:22 PM nombretomado
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* When editing [[{{Wikipedia}} larger Wikis]], the editors who wind up peer-reviewing articles (deletion discussions as a prominent example) are an essentially arbitrary group assembled from such a large pool of motives, goals, and expertise they might as well be an Omniscient Council of Vagueness. You get the impression that a cabal of uncaring, misinformed twits is running the whole show with the sole intention of pissing you off. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Really, there is no cabal.]] It's just the ''universe'' which hates you.

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* When editing [[{{Wikipedia}} [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} larger Wikis]], the editors who wind up peer-reviewing articles (deletion discussions as a prominent example) are an essentially arbitrary group assembled from such a large pool of motives, goals, and expertise they might as well be an Omniscient Council of Vagueness. You get the impression that a cabal of uncaring, misinformed twits is running the whole show with the sole intention of pissing you off. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Really, there is no cabal.]] It's just the ''universe'' which hates you.
20th May '17 1:09:10 PM nombretomado
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* The {{Usenet}} Cabal. Yes, it did exist at one point, and all members had to repeatedly say that ''"There Is No Cabal."'' Of course, ironically, the Cabal's control over Usenet collapsed with the rise of the .alt hierarchy.

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* The {{Usenet}} Website/{{Usenet}} Cabal. Yes, it did exist at one point, and all members had to repeatedly say that ''"There Is No Cabal."'' Of course, ironically, the Cabal's control over Usenet collapsed with the rise of the .alt hierarchy.
13th May '17 10:13:54 AM SorPepita
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* ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]] loves'' this one: sometimes there will be multiple Omniscient Councils of Vagueness in the same season. "Loves" is an understatement. There's the so-called "Bluetooth Illuminati" in Seasons 5 and 6, the [[spoiler: super-secret council of private military companies]] in Season 7...not mentioning the dozens of others. Although most of these either got scrapped, were resolved offscreen, or specific members were thrown into random storylines just to be killed off. The one involving [[spoiler: Jack's long lost father and brother]] was even seemingly retconned altogether (though it was replaced by another). Despite all of these plotlines flopping, they constantly continued them. Many fans were particularly pissed by [[spoiler: Season 7's OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness]], because they were sick of this trope being used all the time, among various other things.

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* ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]] loves'' this one: sometimes there will be multiple Omniscient Councils of Vagueness in the same season. "Loves" is an understatement. There's the so-called "Bluetooth Illuminati" in Seasons 5 and 6, the [[spoiler: super-secret council of private military companies]] in Season 7... not mentioning the dozens of others. Although most of these either got scrapped, were resolved offscreen, or specific members were thrown into random storylines just to be killed off. The one involving [[spoiler: Jack's long lost father and brother]] was even seemingly retconned altogether (though it was replaced by another). Despite all of these plotlines flopping, they constantly continued them. Many fans were particularly pissed by [[spoiler: Season 7's OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness]], because they were sick of this trope being used all the time, among various other things.



* TheIlluminati in ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'', who end up giving their blackmailed minions tasks ranging from "kill this man" to "place a bucket full of paint in a dustbin in HPL Sector. [[spoiler:It's little more than a front for High Programmer activities in secret societies that need a lot of discretion. It's not an actual secret society and more of a joke between [=ULTRAVIOLETs=]...probably.]]

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* TheIlluminati in ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'', who end up giving their blackmailed minions tasks ranging from "kill this man" to "place a bucket full of paint in a dustbin in HPL Sector. [[spoiler:It's little more than a front for High Programmer activities in secret societies that need a lot of discretion. It's not an actual secret society and more of a joke between [=ULTRAVIOLETs=]... probably.]]
13th May '17 10:11:54 AM SorPepita
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* Happens when feedback cycles run too far beyond inside jokes into fully self-feeding content. Like [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1200820.html in terminal cases of]] FanWank. "Some people (i don't know who they are) for some reason have something to say to someone. No, if you don't get what the hell i mean, it's not you!". When something becomes ''full'' of these "somethings", this means it's time to apply something...[[KillItWithFire Something incendiary]].

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* Happens when feedback cycles run too far beyond inside jokes into fully self-feeding content. Like [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1200820.html in terminal cases of]] FanWank. "Some people (i don't know who they are) for some reason have something to say to someone. No, if you don't get what the hell i mean, it's not you!". When something becomes ''full'' of these "somethings", this means it's time to apply something... [[KillItWithFire Something incendiary]].
20th Apr '17 12:10:32 PM PhantomRider
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* Up until [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin "The Deadly Assassin"]], the Time Lords in ''Series/DoctorWho'' were sometimes presented as TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, most blatantly in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E4ColonyInSpace "Colony in Space"]]. In "Assassin" they were {{Retcon}}ned as The [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering Blinkered Council of College Infighting]], and they never really recovered. Creator/RussellTDavies decided the revived show would be better off without them... [[spoiler:until they were brought back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], having become unambiguous villains under Rassilon's insane leadership. The Doctor then has to doom his entire race ''all over again''. Although it's been revealed since then that they still exist, sealed off in a separate universe.]]

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* Up until [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin "The Deadly Assassin"]], the Time Lords in ''Series/DoctorWho'' were sometimes presented as TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, most blatantly in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E4ColonyInSpace "Colony in Space"]]. In "Assassin" they were {{Retcon}}ned as The [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering Blinkered Council of College Infighting]], and they never really recovered. Creator/RussellTDavies decided the revived show would be better off without them... [[spoiler:until they were brought back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], having become unambiguous villains under Rassilon's insane leadership. The Doctor then has to doom his entire race ''all over again''. Although it's been revealed since then that they still exist, sealed off in a separate universe.universe, and also that ''every'' Time Lord didn't [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jump off]] with Rassilon. We've met a perfectly sane and respectable leader known only as The General, and civilian Gallifreyans that could be the civilians of any world.]]



** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': Ygdrassil Corporation. Up until the 12 ep, you know just that they rule the Zawame city and plan something sinister with Beat Riders, Inves and Helheim Forest. And possibly with the whole city.
* The villainous organizations in ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' are always up to evil stuff with all kinds of evil goals and...stuff. But their actual agendas are never made explicit.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': Ygdrassil Yggdrasill Corporation. ([[SpellMyNameWithAnS With 2 Ls]].) Up until the 12 12th ep, you know just that they rule the Zawame city City and plan something sinister with Beat Riders, Inves and Helheim Forest. And possibly with the whole city.
city. They get less vague as time goes on.
* The villainous organizations in ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' are always up to evil stuff with all kinds of evil goals and... stuff. But their actual agendas are never made explicit.
18th Apr '17 7:18:39 PM DesertDragon
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* ''Series/TrueBlood'' gave us The Authority, the highest government in Vampire society, with the power to name the Kings and Queens of territories and bossing them around. However, they're presented in an extremely inconsistent manner that made it difficult to take them seriously. When we first see them early in the series, it's a few people shrouded in shadows with inaudible voices. But when they became a major part of the plot in Season 5, it's an entirely different group. In addition to the main leader The Guardian, there are six Chancellors who are supposed to represent the six continents (even though there doesn't seem to be one from South America or Oceania). Season 5 ended with the entire board being killed and their base in New Orleans destroyed, and it was implied that The Authority itself was destroyed even though one would think there'd be a system in place to replace deceased members. But considering Season 5 was considered by many to be ''True Blood's'' [[SeasonalRot lowest point]], most fans were happy enough that the show moved on without lingering on the political aftermath.
12th Apr '17 4:23:26 PM Vir
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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', Cadmus serves as one of these initially, though their membership is exposed over the course of the season
* The series ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' has F.O.W.L.( Fiendish Organization for World Larceny) the criminal organization , whose High Command is always hidden in shadows and their appearances throughout the entire series were never revealed

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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'', Cadmus serves as one of these initially, though their membership is exposed over the course of the season
season.
* The series ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' has had F.O.W.L.( Fiendish (Fiendish Organization for World Larceny) Larceny), the criminal organization , whose High Command is always hidden in shadows shadows, and their appearances throughout the entire series were never revealedrevealed.
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