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20th May '17 1:09:10 PM nombretomado
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* The {{Usenet}} Cabal. Yes, it did exist at one point, and all members had to repeatedly say that ''"There Is No Cabal."'' Of course, ironically, the Cabal's control over Usenet collapsed with the rise of the .alt hierarchy.

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* The {{Usenet}} Website/{{Usenet}} Cabal. Yes, it did exist at one point, and all members had to repeatedly say that ''"There Is No Cabal."'' Of course, ironically, the Cabal's control over Usenet collapsed with the rise of the .alt hierarchy.
13th May '17 10:13:54 AM SorPepita
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* ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]] loves'' this one: sometimes there will be multiple Omniscient Councils of Vagueness in the same season. "Loves" is an understatement. There's the so-called "Bluetooth Illuminati" in Seasons 5 and 6, the [[spoiler: super-secret council of private military companies]] in Season 7...not mentioning the dozens of others. Although most of these either got scrapped, were resolved offscreen, or specific members were thrown into random storylines just to be killed off. The one involving [[spoiler: Jack's long lost father and brother]] was even seemingly retconned altogether (though it was replaced by another). Despite all of these plotlines flopping, they constantly continued them. Many fans were particularly pissed by [[spoiler: Season 7's OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness]], because they were sick of this trope being used all the time, among various other things.

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* ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]] loves'' this one: sometimes there will be multiple Omniscient Councils of Vagueness in the same season. "Loves" is an understatement. There's the so-called "Bluetooth Illuminati" in Seasons 5 and 6, the [[spoiler: super-secret council of private military companies]] in Season 7... not mentioning the dozens of others. Although most of these either got scrapped, were resolved offscreen, or specific members were thrown into random storylines just to be killed off. The one involving [[spoiler: Jack's long lost father and brother]] was even seemingly retconned altogether (though it was replaced by another). Despite all of these plotlines flopping, they constantly continued them. Many fans were particularly pissed by [[spoiler: Season 7's OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness]], because they were sick of this trope being used all the time, among various other things.



* TheIlluminati in ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'', who end up giving their blackmailed minions tasks ranging from "kill this man" to "place a bucket full of paint in a dustbin in HPL Sector. [[spoiler:It's little more than a front for High Programmer activities in secret societies that need a lot of discretion. It's not an actual secret society and more of a joke between [=ULTRAVIOLETs=]...probably.]]

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* TheIlluminati in ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'', who end up giving their blackmailed minions tasks ranging from "kill this man" to "place a bucket full of paint in a dustbin in HPL Sector. [[spoiler:It's little more than a front for High Programmer activities in secret societies that need a lot of discretion. It's not an actual secret society and more of a joke between [=ULTRAVIOLETs=]... probably.]]
13th May '17 10:11:54 AM SorPepita
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* Happens when feedback cycles run too far beyond inside jokes into fully self-feeding content. Like [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1200820.html in terminal cases of]] FanWank. "Some people (i don't know who they are) for some reason have something to say to someone. No, if you don't get what the hell i mean, it's not you!". When something becomes ''full'' of these "somethings", this means it's time to apply something...[[KillItWithFire Something incendiary]].

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* Happens when feedback cycles run too far beyond inside jokes into fully self-feeding content. Like [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1200820.html in terminal cases of]] FanWank. "Some people (i don't know who they are) for some reason have something to say to someone. No, if you don't get what the hell i mean, it's not you!". When something becomes ''full'' of these "somethings", this means it's time to apply something... [[KillItWithFire Something incendiary]].
20th Apr '17 12:10:32 PM PhantomRider
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* Up until [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin "The Deadly Assassin"]], the Time Lords in ''Series/DoctorWho'' were sometimes presented as TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, most blatantly in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E4ColonyInSpace "Colony in Space"]]. In "Assassin" they were {{Retcon}}ned as The [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering Blinkered Council of College Infighting]], and they never really recovered. Creator/RussellTDavies decided the revived show would be better off without them... [[spoiler:until they were brought back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], having become unambiguous villains under Rassilon's insane leadership. The Doctor then has to doom his entire race ''all over again''. Although it's been revealed since then that they still exist, sealed off in a separate universe.]]

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* Up until [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin "The Deadly Assassin"]], the Time Lords in ''Series/DoctorWho'' were sometimes presented as TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, most blatantly in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E4ColonyInSpace "Colony in Space"]]. In "Assassin" they were {{Retcon}}ned as The [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering Blinkered Council of College Infighting]], and they never really recovered. Creator/RussellTDavies decided the revived show would be better off without them... [[spoiler:until they were brought back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], having become unambiguous villains under Rassilon's insane leadership. The Doctor then has to doom his entire race ''all over again''. Although it's been revealed since then that they still exist, sealed off in a separate universe.universe, and also that ''every'' Time Lord didn't [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jump off]] with Rassilon. We've met a perfectly sane and respectable leader known only as The General, and civilian Gallifreyans that could be the civilians of any world.]]



** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': Ygdrassil Corporation. Up until the 12 ep, you know just that they rule the Zawame city and plan something sinister with Beat Riders, Inves and Helheim Forest. And possibly with the whole city.
* The villainous organizations in ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' are always up to evil stuff with all kinds of evil goals and...stuff. But their actual agendas are never made explicit.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': Ygdrassil Yggdrasill Corporation. ([[SpellMyNameWithAnS With 2 Ls]].) Up until the 12 12th ep, you know just that they rule the Zawame city City and plan something sinister with Beat Riders, Inves and Helheim Forest. And possibly with the whole city.
city. They get less vague as time goes on.
* The villainous organizations in ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' are always up to evil stuff with all kinds of evil goals and... stuff. But their actual agendas are never made explicit.
18th Apr '17 7:18:39 PM DesertDragon
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* ''Series/TrueBlood'' gave us The Authority, the highest government in Vampire society, with the power to name the Kings and Queens of territories and bossing them around. However, they're presented in an extremely inconsistent manner that made it difficult to take them seriously. When we first see them early in the series, it's a few people shrouded in shadows with inaudible voices. But when they became a major part of the plot in Season 5, it's an entirely different group. In addition to the main leader The Guardian, there are six Chancellors who are supposed to represent the six continents (even though there doesn't seem to be one from South America or Oceania). Season 5 ended with the entire board being killed and their base in New Orleans destroyed, and it was implied that The Authority itself was destroyed even though one would think there'd be a system in place to replace deceased members. But considering Season 5 was considered by many to be ''True Blood's'' [[SeasonalRot lowest point]], most fans were happy enough that the show moved on without lingering on the political aftermath.
12th Apr '17 4:23:26 PM Vir
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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', Cadmus serves as one of these initially, though their membership is exposed over the course of the season
* The series ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' has F.O.W.L.( Fiendish Organization for World Larceny) the criminal organization , whose High Command is always hidden in shadows and their appearances throughout the entire series were never revealed

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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'', Cadmus serves as one of these initially, though their membership is exposed over the course of the season
season.
* The series ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' has had F.O.W.L.( Fiendish (Fiendish Organization for World Larceny) Larceny), the criminal organization , whose High Command is always hidden in shadows shadows, and their appearances throughout the entire series were never revealedrevealed.
8th Apr '17 10:12:45 AM nombretomado
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* According to Creator/LittleKuriboh and ''Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series'', 4kids is this. Turned UpToEleven. They just pop up every now and again, standing up in sync dramatically/observing everyone/making sure that nobody says [[spoiler: Disney]]. Ah! I said it! Noo!

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* According to Creator/LittleKuriboh and ''Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series'', ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', 4kids is this. Turned UpToEleven. They just pop up every now and again, standing up in sync dramatically/observing everyone/making sure that nobody says [[spoiler: Disney]]. Ah! I said it! Noo!



* The Supreme Council of the eponymous village in ''TheQuestportChronicles'' never seems to ''do'' much, despite their title.

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* The Supreme Council of the eponymous village in ''TheQuestportChronicles'' ''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles'' never seems to ''do'' much, despite their title.
13th Mar '17 8:20:31 PM infernape612
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** The admins can sure seem this way when you don't particular know or care to know about admin politics. That is; unseen, incomprehensible, usually irrelevant.
** More plausibly, all that's happening is a combination of [[Franchise/GhostInTheShell stand alone complex]] due to ThisWiki being a group of fairly like-minded people and social interactions that no one person can be aware of.
** It seems this way to people when random pages get locked. For good reason.

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** * The admins can sure seem this way when you don't particular know or care to know about admin politics. That is; unseen, incomprehensible, usually irrelevant.
** * More plausibly, all that's happening is a combination of [[Franchise/GhostInTheShell stand alone complex]] due to ThisWiki being a group of fairly like-minded people and social interactions that no one person can be aware of.
** * It seems this way to people when random pages get locked. For good reason.
5th Mar '17 11:49:29 AM nombretomado
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* MarvelComics had ComicBook/TheIlluminati and Osborn's Cabal.

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* MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics had ComicBook/TheIlluminati and Osborn's Cabal.
26th Jan '17 11:49:46 PM PaulA
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* The ''Second Literature/{{Foundation}}'' (Asimov's {{Chessmaster}} extraordinares) [[ExaggeratedTrope take this to an extreme]]. One chapter ends with two Second Foundationers summarizing everything that just happened: "Intersection point?" "Yes! May we live to see the dawn!"

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* Asimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series: The ''Second Literature/{{Foundation}}'' (Asimov's {{Chessmaster}} Second Foundation ({{Chessmaster}} extraordinares) [[ExaggeratedTrope take this to an extreme]]. One chapter ends with two Second Foundationers summarizing everything that just happened: "Intersection point?" "Yes! May we live to see the dawn!"
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