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5th Sep '17 8:02:45 PM FringeBenefits
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* ''FanFic/StarsAbove'': The title initially refers to TheProphecy given before the events of the story, relating to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt: "All will come to ruin, and the stars above will fall." [[spoiler:By the final chapter, the five main characters know of the prophecy, and [[Manga/LuckyStar Kagami]] decides to ScrewDestiny and uses Stars Above as the name of their MagicalGirl team. Her rewording of the latter half kicks off the final battle: "The Stars Above will ''rise!''"]]
15th Jul '17 2:56:38 PM LB7979
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A namesake is the thing within a story that the story itself is named after. It could be [[TheEponymousShow a character]], [[ThePlace a place]], an object, or indeed a metaphor. Often, the namesake is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin rather obvious]] (''RomeoAndJuliet'' is obviously named tfhat way because there's a character called "Romeo" and another called "Juliet"; ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'' obviously includes a machine to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]) but sometimes, authors (or film studios) want to use titles that draw attention, and that's when the namesake may not appear until the end of the story, or might indeed only be a metaphor for a certain situation in the story which doesn't become clear until the end. In short, this becomes a trope when the reason why the book/movie/chapter/episode/etc. is called the way it is, isn't revealed to the audience until [[NowYouTellMe near the end]]; regardless of whether the characters [[EverybodyKnewAlready knew about it all along]] or not. If book/movie/chapter/episode is named after a pivotal plot point rather than an actual person/place/thing, then it's a SpoilerTitle.

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A namesake is the thing within a story that the story itself is named after. It could be [[TheEponymousShow a character]], [[ThePlace a place]], an object, or indeed a metaphor. Often, the namesake is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin rather obvious]] (''RomeoAndJuliet'' is obviously named tfhat that way because there's a character called "Romeo" and another called "Juliet"; ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'' obviously includes a machine to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]) but sometimes, authors (or film studios) want to use titles that draw attention, and that's when the namesake may not appear until the end of the story, or might indeed only be a metaphor for a certain situation in the story which doesn't become clear until the end. In short, this becomes a trope when the reason why the book/movie/chapter/episode/etc. is called the way it is, isn't revealed to the audience until [[NowYouTellMe near the end]]; regardless of whether the characters [[EverybodyKnewAlready knew about it all along]] or not. If book/movie/chapter/episode is named after a pivotal plot point rather than an actual person/place/thing, then it's a SpoilerTitle.
15th Jul '17 2:55:03 PM LB7979
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A namesake is the thing within a story that the story itself is named after. It could be [[TheEponymousShow a character]], [[ThePlace a place]], an object, or indeed a metaphor. Often, the namesake is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin rather obvious]] (''RomeoAndJuliet'' is obviously named that way because there's a character called "Romeo" and another called "Juliet"; ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'' obviously includes a machine to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]) but sometimes, authors (or film studios) want to use titles that draw attention, and that's when the namesake may not appear until the end of the story, or might indeed only be a metaphor for a certain situation in the story which doesn't become clear until the end. In short, this becomes a trope when the reason why the book/movie/chapter/episode/etc. is called the way it is, isn't revealed to the audience until [[NowYouTellMe near the end]]; regardless of whether the characters [[EverybodyKnewAlready knew about it all along]] or not. If book/movie/chapter/episode is named after a pivotal plot point rather than an actual person/place/thing, then it's a SpoilerTitle.

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A namesake is the thing within a story that the story itself is named after. It could be [[TheEponymousShow a character]], [[ThePlace a place]], an object, or indeed a metaphor. Often, the namesake is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin rather obvious]] (''RomeoAndJuliet'' is obviously named that tfhat way because there's a character called "Romeo" and another called "Juliet"; ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'' obviously includes a machine to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]) but sometimes, authors (or film studios) want to use titles that draw attention, and that's when the namesake may not appear until the end of the story, or might indeed only be a metaphor for a certain situation in the story which doesn't become clear until the end. In short, this becomes a trope when the reason why the book/movie/chapter/episode/etc. is called the way it is, isn't revealed to the audience until [[NowYouTellMe near the end]]; regardless of whether the characters [[EverybodyKnewAlready knew about it all along]] or not. If book/movie/chapter/episode is named after a pivotal plot point rather than an actual person/place/thing, then it's a SpoilerTitle.



* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' chapter titles do this quite a bit. For instance, chapter eight of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'' is entitled [[spoiler: Flight of the Fat Lady]]. This doesn't actually happen until the second-last page of the chapter.
** ''Azkaban'' has a chapter titled "The Servant of Lord Voldemort". [[spoiler:When you start the chapter, you think the title simply refers to Sirius Black. By the time you've finished the chapter, it's become apparent that the eponymous servant is Peter Pettigrew.]]

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' chapter titles do this quite a bit. For instance, chapter ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': Chapter eight of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'' is entitled [[spoiler: Flight of the Fat Lady]]. This doesn't actually happen until the second-last page of the chapter.
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chapter. There's also a chapter titled "The Servant of Lord Voldemort". [[spoiler:When When you start the chapter, you think the title simply refers to Sirius Black. [[spoiler:Sirius Black]]. By the time you've finished the chapter, it's become apparent that the [[spoiler:the eponymous servant is Peter Pettigrew.]]



* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings: The Two Towers'': The second tower is revealed quite late in the book.
** Of course, ''which'' two towers is open to interpretation. While Tolkein stated in a letter to his publisher they were Orthanc and Barad-dûr, almost any combination of Orthanc with Barad-dûr, Minas Tirith, and Minas Morgul makes sense. (Orthanc is inevitable, as half the book consists of fighting Saruman.)
** [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil Or the inside blurb of the hardcover...]]

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* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings: The Two Towers'': The second tower is revealed quite late in the book.
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book. Of course, ''which'' two towers is open to interpretation. While Tolkein Tolkien stated in a letter to his publisher they were Orthanc and Barad-dûr, almost any combination of Orthanc with Barad-dûr, Minas Tirith, and Minas Morgul makes sense. (Orthanc is inevitable, as half the book consists of fighting Saruman.)
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) On the other hand, there's the [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil Or the inside blurb of the hardcover...]]
9th Jun '17 7:47:19 AM erforce
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* In the original version of ''Film/TheWickerMan'', the man of wicker in the title isn't shown or otherwise mentioned until the very end of the movie.

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* In the original version of ''Film/TheWickerMan'', ''Film/TheWickerMan1973'', the man of wicker in the title isn't shown or otherwise mentioned until the very end of the movie.
3rd May '17 11:00:56 AM mariofan1000
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* The ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' episode "Vision Quest" initially seems to have a NonIndicativeName, since it's a BottleEpisode where the main characters are [[LockedInARoom trapped in an elevator.]] Until the very end, anyway, where Malory reveals that she was planning on having them all watch the film ''Vision Quest''.
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15th Apr '17 3:44:12 PM nombretomado
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* [[http://www.pantheracomic.com Panthera]]: The reason for the title isn't revealed until the 19th strip, which, [[WebcomicTime due to the comic being weekly]] and having [[ScheduleSlip missed an update]], meant that it was revealed after 6 months! Once it was, the author was quite verbal in pointing it out.
* ''SomethingPositive'': The title never actually appears in the strip anywhere. One of creator Randy Milholland's friends urged him to do "something positive" with his life, and the comic was the end result.

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* [[http://www.''[[http://www.pantheracomic.com Panthera]]: Panthera]]'': The reason for the title isn't revealed until the 19th strip, which, [[WebcomicTime due to the comic being weekly]] and having [[ScheduleSlip missed an update]], meant that it was revealed after 6 months! Once it was, the author was quite verbal in pointing it out.
* ''SomethingPositive'': ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'': The title never actually appears in the strip anywhere. One of creator Randy Milholland's friends urged him to do "something positive" with his life, and the comic was the end result.
30th Dec '16 8:33:58 PM LadyNorbert
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* The ''Franchise/DragonAge'' games play with this a little. They never actually ''talk'' about the eponymous Dragon Age, but codex entries in the game and supplemental material elsewhere clarify that it's how the game world marks. Every hundred years is an age, and each new age is given a name inspired by significant events near the end of the previous one. Toward the end of the previous age, dragons began appearing in the world after they had long been thought extinct... so the games are all taking place during what has been named the Dragon Age.

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* The ''Franchise/DragonAge'' games play with this a little. They never actually ''talk'' about the eponymous Dragon Age, but codex entries in the game and supplemental material elsewhere clarify that it's how the game world marks.marks time. Every hundred years is an age, and each new age is given a name inspired by significant events near the end of the previous one. Toward the end of the previous age, dragons began appearing in the world after they had long been thought extinct... so the games are all taking place during what has been named the Dragon Age.
30th Dec '16 8:33:18 PM LadyNorbert
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* The English title for the ''{{Tintin}}'' adventure ''Recap/TintinTheRedSeaSharks'' references an element which only shows up at the end of the story. In most other languages, this album is known as "Coke on Board", with "coke" or some variant being a code-word for [[spoiler: human cargo being shipped to slavery]].

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* The English title for the ''{{Tintin}}'' adventure ''Recap/TintinTheRedSeaSharks'' references an element which only shows up at the end of the story. In most other languages, this album is known as "Coke on Board", with "coke" or some variant being a code-word code word for [[spoiler: human cargo being shipped to slavery]].




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* The ''Franchise/DragonAge'' games play with this a little. They never actually ''talk'' about the eponymous Dragon Age, but codex entries in the game and supplemental material elsewhere clarify that it's how the game world marks. Every hundred years is an age, and each new age is given a name inspired by significant events near the end of the previous one. Toward the end of the previous age, dragons began appearing in the world after they had long been thought extinct... so the games are all taking place during what has been named the Dragon Age.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' don't actually appear until the fifth game in the series.
21st Dec '16 12:17:22 AM Xtifr
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* Although Creator/LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' largely averts this, the final book, ''The High King'', plays it fairly straight. [[spoiler:It's not until the last three pages that it becomes revealed that the title refers to Taran, the series protagonist, being proclaimed High King of Prydain.]]

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* Although Creator/LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'' largely averts this, the final book, ''The High King'', plays it fairly straight. [[spoiler:It's not until the last three pages that it becomes revealed that the title refers to Taran, the series protagonist, being proclaimed High King of Prydain.]]
12th Nov '16 9:03:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/GrandCanyon'': About 99% of the movie takes place in and around Los Angeles, which is several hours of driving and nearly 400 miles away from the Grand Canyon. While the Grand Canyon is [[TitleDrop title dropped]] a few times in different contexts ("Ever been to the Grand Canyon?", "A hole as big as the Grand Canyon"), it isn't until the very final moments of the film that the main characters actually visit it.
* The Peter Sellers/Ringo Starr vehicle ''Film/TheMagicChristian'' is about the title's cruise ship which (a) doesn't appear till the third act, and (b) turns out to be a sham.
* ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' has an interesting title, especially compared to the self-evident titles of the other ''StarWars'' movies. Namely, it raises the question, who is the "phantom menace"? Darth Maul, as the [[NeverTrustATrailer advertising campaign would suggest]]? Senator Palpatine, the [[TheChessmaster mastermind behind it all]] who [[DevilInPlainSight hides behind a respectable front]]? The Sith in general, who are supposed to be extinct? Or perhaps [[StartOfDarkness Anakin]], who at this point is only a "phantom" of the "menace" he will one day become? (according to WordOfGod, it's the second; helps Darth Sidious only appears once not in hologram form, making him mostly sort of a VirtualGhost)



* The title of ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' initially just seems to have been chosen because it sounds cool, with the only obvious meaning coming from [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat James Bond surviving a seemingly fatal fall from a bridge]] in the first scene. Then, in the last third of the movie, we find out that [[spoiler: it's the name of Bond's family estate in Scotland]].
* ''A Time for Drunken Horses'' is not a metaphor; you ''will'' see intoxicated equines.
* In the original version of ''Film/TheWickerMan'', the man of wicker in the title isn't shown or otherwise mentioned until the very end of the movie.
* ''Film/{{Zardoz}}'': The film's eponymous God turns out to be [[spoiler:''The Wonderful Wi'''Zard''' of '''Oz'''''.]]


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* ''Film/GrandCanyon'': About 99% of the movie takes place in and around Los Angeles, which is several hours of driving and nearly 400 miles away from the Grand Canyon. While the Grand Canyon is [[TitleDrop title dropped]] a few times in different contexts ("Ever been to the Grand Canyon?", "A hole as big as the Grand Canyon"), it isn't until the very final moments of the film that the main characters actually visit it.
* The Peter Sellers/Ringo Starr vehicle ''Film/TheMagicChristian'' is about the title's cruise ship which (a) doesn't appear till the third act, and (b) turns out to be a sham.
* ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' has an interesting title, especially compared to the self-evident titles of the other ''StarWars'' movies. Namely, it raises the question, who is the "phantom menace"? Darth Maul, as the [[NeverTrustATrailer advertising campaign would suggest]]? Senator Palpatine, the [[TheChessmaster mastermind behind it all]] who [[DevilInPlainSight hides behind a respectable front]]? The Sith in general, who are supposed to be extinct? Or perhaps [[StartOfDarkness Anakin]], who at this point is only a "phantom" of the "menace" he will one day become? (according to WordOfGod, it's the second; helps Darth Sidious only appears once not in hologram form, making him mostly sort of a VirtualGhost)
* The title of ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' initially just seems to have been chosen because it sounds cool, with the only obvious meaning coming from [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat James Bond surviving a seemingly fatal fall from a bridge]] in the first scene. Then, in the last third of the movie, we find out that [[spoiler: it's the name of Bond's family estate in Scotland]].
* ''A Time for Drunken Horses'' is not a metaphor; you ''will'' see intoxicated equines.
* In the original version of ''Film/TheWickerMan'', the man of wicker in the title isn't shown or otherwise mentioned until the very end of the movie.
* ''Film/{{Zardoz}}'': The film's eponymous God turns out to be [[spoiler:''The Wonderful Wi'''Zard''' of '''Oz'''''.]]
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