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10th Feb '18 11:09:13 PM Manw0name
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* Besides, neuroscience holds that there is no body(brain)/mind duality. They are one and the same, which is born out by the massive evidence, a sample of which is listed above.

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* Besides, neuroscience holds that there is no body(brain)/mind duality. They are one and the same, which is born out by the massive evidence, a sample of which is listed above. Keep in mind, it's far from a settled matter.
29th Jan '18 8:32:52 PM nombretomado
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* Taken to an extreme in Dennis L. [=McKiernan=]'s {{Mithgar}} series. A shapeshifter in their animal form is said to have the mind of that animal, albeit one that will occasionally have thoughts similar to those of a human. The flip side of this is that a shapeshifter in human form will occasionally have thoughts similar to those of the animal they transform into.

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* Taken to an extreme in Dennis L. [=McKiernan=]'s {{Mithgar}} ''Literature/{{Mithgar}}'' series. A shapeshifter in their animal form is said to have the mind of that animal, albeit one that will occasionally have thoughts similar to those of a human. The flip side of this is that a shapeshifter in human form will occasionally have thoughts similar to those of the animal they transform into.
16th Jan '18 5:25:59 AM Lopiny
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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'': shapeshifting yourself or others explicitly doesn't affect your mind, although turning someone into something that isn't alive will cause them to lose consciousness until it's reverted. If you really want you can use a powerful mind control device alongside your transforming device.

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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'': shapeshifting yourself or others explicitly doesn't affect your mind, although mind. The example given is trying to turn a rampaging, bloodthirsty T-rex into a docile rabbit; what you get from that is a [[KillerRabbit bloodthirsty rabbit]]. However, turning someone into something that isn't alive will cause them to lose consciousness until it's reverted. If you really want this to apply, you can use a powerful mind control device alongside your transforming device.
15th Jan '18 3:30:46 PM Dutchtica
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'', this is a common FanWank for why Twilight Sparkle (a pony) would develop a crush on Flash Sentry (a human).
7th Jan '18 3:29:48 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''{{Spider-Man}}''

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* ''{{Spider-Man}}''''Franchise/SpiderMan''
8th Dec '17 12:32:21 AM DesiredUsernameTaken
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'': Inverted in Episode 91. When Stumpy invokes the PersonalitySwap trope [[IJustWantToBeYou so he can finally be just like Mr. Cat]], he gains a pair of [[CuteLittleFangs cat-like fangs]] like the ones Mr. Cat has along with his personality.
12th Sep '17 9:38:52 PM Juneberries
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** Another good example is Ranma's father Genma, who actually seems to enjoy being a panda more than being a human.

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** Another good example is Ranma's father Genma, who actually seems to enjoy being a panda more than being a human.human, even going so far as to eat bamboo shoots.


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** Kinnii, [[TitleDrop the killer from Jusenkyo]], is probably hit by this trope as much as, if not more than, Rouge. A weapon of mass destruction for the "Jusenkyo Preservation Society", he's bulking, bloodthirsty and skilled with his sword; when he shapeshifts into a highly moral priest, he's nothing ''but'' a timid and regretful NatureLover, who couldn't even believe (or likely ''remember'') what his natural form is capable of.
7th Sep '17 6:16:58 AM nighttrainfm
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** In ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', we get the villain Goku Black, who [[EvilTwin looks identical to Goku]], but makes an indication early on that he originally did not have that appearance. Then we learn the reason for it is that he's [[spoiler: actually a Supreme Kai named Zamasu who, out of envy and spite, stole the body of an alternate version of Goku.]] The curious thing about it is that his personality seems to have been altered slightly by this and he's taken on some of Goku's personality traits, particularly his [[BloodKnight desire for battle]], and need to be challenged and grow stronger. Then after Black actually fights Goku even his ''speech pattern'' slowly grows more and more like Goku's. He also starts using some of Goku's fighting stances and techniques, although those are in part deliberate imitations.

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** In ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', we get the villain Goku Black, who [[EvilTwin looks identical to Goku]], but makes an indication early on that he originally did not have that appearance. Then we learn the reason for it is that he's [[spoiler: actually a Supreme Kai named Zamasu who, out of envy and spite, stole the body of an alternate version of Goku.]] The curious thing about it is that his personality seems to have been altered slightly by this and he's taken on some of Goku's personality traits, particularly his [[BloodKnight desire for battle]], and [[ChallengeSeeker need to be challenged challenged]] and grow stronger. Then after Black actually fights Goku even his ''speech pattern'' slowly grows more and more like Goku's. He also starts using some of Goku's fighting stances and techniques, although those are in part deliberate imitations.
22nd Aug '17 6:55:26 PM PaulA
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* We're told in the ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms Five Hundred Kingdoms]]'' series by Creator/MercedesLackey that only the most powerful Sorcerers or Sorceresses can transform a person into an animal without that person losing his mind to the animal. However, since the books focus on Godmothers, we don't see this in action. In the first book, Elena transforms Alexander into a donkey, but has to give him regular time as a human. In "The Snow Queen", Aleksia takes several animal forms, but even as a polar bear (which has a large enough brain to "fit" a human mind into) the animal instincts get stronger the longer she remains changed.

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* We're told in the ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms Five Hundred Kingdoms]]'' series by Creator/MercedesLackey that only the most powerful Sorcerers or Sorceresses can transform a person into an animal without that person losing his mind to the animal. However, since the books focus on Godmothers, we don't see this in action. action.
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In the first book, ''The Fairy Godmother'', Elena transforms Alexander into a donkey, but has to give him regular time as a human. human.
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In "The ''The Snow Queen", Queen'', Aleksia takes several animal forms, but even as a polar bear (which has a large enough brain to "fit" a human mind into) the animal instincts get stronger the longer she remains changed.
12th Aug '17 9:35:14 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2698347/1/Walk-Through-the-Valley Walk Through the Valley]]'' by Creator/{{Vathara}}, [[Manga/RurouniKenshin Hiko]] transforms uses LegoGenetics to transform himself into a kiryuu alterant and kiryuu are felinoid aliens from the planet Satoyama that possesses CompleteImmortality (anything that doesn't kill them immediately tends not to kill them at all), InnateNightVision so strong that they very myopic during the day, sensory tendrils [[AlienHair in place of hair]], {{EMP}}-generation and perception which allows to [[MindlinkMates share thoughts with each other]], made possible by the sensory tendrils; and they are [[KnightTemplarParent Knight Templar Parents]] that will kill any predators that come near the birthing den. Upon becoming half-man, half-kiryuu, he finds himself mentally declaring the cabin and where he woke up and everything within sight of it to be his when he'd previously never stayed anywhere more than a year at a time (except for his stint on Satoyama) and didn't allow himself to get attached and contemplating leaping sixty feet into the air to chase a bushy-tailed rodent on a tree. That was in the first week. Within five years, he finds himself killing in an UnstoppableRage for the first time just because the victim, a member of the [[{{Ninja}} Oniwabanshuu]], was under MindControl like all citizens of TheFederation to protect them from TheEvilsOfFreeWill (and the Oniwabanshuu are members of the HumanSubspecies empowered to do the protecting through {{Telepathy}}). After that, his mountain was safe. Later, he finds himself with a dying eight-year-old escaped slave boy (Kenshin) and the only way to save him is an EmergencyTransformation into a kiryuu alterant. Previously, Hiko had been a ChildHater, or, at least, wasn't interested in making sacrifices for a child such as free time or career. But after the second time Kenshin's skin shed, he found himself with unable to keep from growling at one of his few friends whenever she made sudden movements towards the cabin. This transformation lasted months. Months he had to spend working with the instincts until they re-categorized her as a "spark-ally" (sparks are what kiryuu packs are called).

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2698347/1/Walk-Through-the-Valley Walk Through the Valley]]'' by Creator/{{Vathara}}, [[Manga/RurouniKenshin Hiko]] transforms uses LegoGenetics to transform himself into a kiryuu alterant and kiryuu are alterant, a felinoid aliens alien from the planet Satoyama that possesses CompleteImmortality (anything that doesn't kill them immediately tends not to kill them at all), InnateNightVision so strong that they very myopic during the day, sensory tendrils [[AlienHair in place of hair]], {{EMP}}-generation and perception which allows to [[MindlinkMates share thoughts with each other]], made possible by the sensory tendrils; and they are [[KnightTemplarParent Knight Templar Parents]] that will kill any predators that come near the birthing den. Satoyama. Upon becoming half-man, half-kiryuu, he finds himself mentally declaring takes on the cabin and where he woke up and everything within sight of it to be his when he'd kiryuu's territorial instincts despite being a drifter who previously never stayed anywhere more than a year at a time (except for his stint on Satoyama) and didn't allow himself to get attached and contemplating leaping sixty feet into the air to chase a bushy-tailed rodent on a tree. That was in the first week. Satoyama). Within five years, he finds himself killing in an UnstoppableRage for the first time just because the victim, a member of the [[{{Ninja}} Oniwabanshuu]], was under MindControl like all citizens of TheFederation to protect them from TheEvilsOfFreeWill (and the Oniwabanshuu are members of the HumanSubspecies empowered to do the protecting through {{Telepathy}}). After that, his mountain was safe.territory. Later, he finds himself with a dying eight-year-old escaped slave boy (Kenshin) and the only way to save him is an EmergencyTransformation into a kiryuu alterant. Previously, Hiko had been a ChildHater, or, at least, wasn't interested in making sacrifices borderline ChildHater who wouldn't have bothered. Similarly, Kenshin was hostile to a friend who approached the cabin despite caring for a child such as free time or career. But after the second time Kenshin's skin shed, he found himself with unable to keep from growling at one of his few friends whenever she made sudden movements towards the cabin. This transformation lasted months. Months he had to spend working with the instincts her, until they re-categorized he was able to rationalize her as a "spark-ally" (sparks are what kiryuu packs are called).member of his pack to get around it.
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