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25th Jun '16 4:01:20 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheTenthKingdom'', Prince Wendell swaps bodies with a dog and gradually starts thinking like a dog, the dog also slowly starts thinking more like a human (but never quite gets it) although this may simply be training.

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* In ''TheTenthKingdom'', ''Series/TheTenthKingdom'', Prince Wendell swaps bodies with a dog and gradually starts thinking like a dog, the dog also slowly starts thinking more like a human (but never quite gets it) although this may simply be training.
8th Jun '16 10:07:06 AM Sjogre
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* In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', a Maximal or Predacon that acquires an organic alt mode also acquires the instincts of the organism they scanned; normally, these instincts are separated fro the rest of their memory by mental firewalls, but various disruptions to those firewalls (from damage to the protoform before scanning or staying in alt mode for too long) can cause the instincts to overpower the Transformer's personality to varying degrees, though a 'bot can delete the firewalls purposely and integrate the two together without any lingering effects. Arguably, a Transformer "possessed" by their beast mode is much more dangerous, as they're forced to obey their unpredictable animal instincts instead of following typical Maximal or Predacon stereotypes (for instance, the Predacon Inferno - who had his personality almost entirely enveloped by his fire ant alt mode - became fanatically loyal to his "queen" Megatron and suicidally and recklessly effective as cannon fodder, all in line with his role as an ant drone).

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', a Maximal or Predacon that acquires an organic alt mode also acquires the instincts of the organism they scanned; normally, these instincts are separated fro the rest of their memory by mental firewalls, but various disruptions to those firewalls (from damage to the protoform before scanning or staying in alt mode for too long) can cause the instincts to overpower the Transformer's personality to varying degrees, though a 'bot can delete the firewalls purposely and integrate the two together without any lingering effects. Arguably, a Transformer "possessed" by their beast mode is much more dangerous, as they're forced to obey their unpredictable animal instincts instead of following typical Maximal or Predacon stereotypes (for instance, the Predacon Inferno - who had his personality almost entirely enveloped by his fire ant alt mode - became fanatically loyal to his "queen" Megatron and suicidally and recklessly effective as cannon fodder, all in line with his role as an ant drone).soldier ant).
24th May '16 10:05:23 AM Willbyr
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* [[GenderBender Former boy]] Hazumu Osaragi from ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' typically responds "I really am a girl now" when her classmates remark on any changes in her behavior.

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* [[GenderBender Former boy]] Hazumu Osaragi from ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' ''Manga/KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' typically responds "I really am a girl now" when her classmates remark on any changes in her behavior.
24th Apr '16 10:58:01 AM TVRulezAgain
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* This is a major theme in TheLandBeforeTime fanfiction ''FanFic/TheSevenHunters''. Although Littlefoot and the other members of the gang retain their personalities after their transformation into carnivores, they slowly begin to suffer from a personality shift as time goes on. They even begin to enjoy their hunts despite the realities of what that entails.

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* This is a major theme in TheLandBeforeTime WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime fanfiction ''FanFic/TheSevenHunters''. Although Littlefoot and the other members of the gang retain their personalities after their transformation into carnivores, they slowly begin to suffer from a personality shift as time goes on. They even begin to enjoy their hunts despite the realities of what that entails.
18th Apr '16 8:06:47 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': Parshendi have the ability to change forms suited for specific roles, and they shift slightly in temperament depending on form. Dullform are extremely stupid, mateform are playful and sexual, workform are non-confrontational to a fault, and [[spoiler:stormform is flat-out DemonicPossession]]. Nimbleform and warform have minimal mental changes, but warforms still enjoy obeying orders from their lawful superiors.
8th Mar '16 1:42:09 PM margdean56
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* In Creator.PiersAnthony's very first ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' book, Magician Trent can change anyone into any animal. The form comes with instincts built in. Trent said something like (paraphrasing): "If you're a turtle, unless you have the instincts of a turtle, you couldn't ''survive'' as a turtle."

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* In Creator.PiersAnthony's Creator/PiersAnthony's very first ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' book, Magician Trent can change anyone into any animal. The form comes with instincts built in. Trent said something like (paraphrasing): "If you're a turtle, unless you have the instincts of a turtle, you couldn't ''survive'' as a turtle."



* This trope plays both ways in ''Literature/HarryPotter'': If a person is [[BalefulPolymorph involuntarily transfigured into an animal]] [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent (and this includes werewolves)]], then they lose their human mind for the duration of the spell. However, with years of study, and at great risk, a wizard can train him/her self to transform into an animal at will and retain their human mind - mostly. (Wormtail suffered no ill effects from being a rat for twelve years straight, but Sirius sometimes turned into a dog to ameliorate the stress caused by Dementors.)

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* This trope plays both ways in ''Literature/HarryPotter'': If a person is [[BalefulPolymorph involuntarily transfigured into an animal]] [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent (and this includes werewolves)]], then they lose their human mind for the duration of the spell. However, with years of study, and at great risk, a wizard can train him/her self to transform into an animal at will and retain their human mind - -- mostly. (Wormtail suffered no ill effects from being a rat for twelve years straight, but Sirius sometimes turned into a dog to ameliorate the stress caused by Dementors.)



* In ''Literature/TheImmortals'' by Creator/TamoraPierce, Daine finds that thanks to mind-speaking with and turning into animals, that she can no longer eat wild game. She can still eat beef, pork, chicken, and fish because she's never had an interest in inhabiting the minds or taking on the shapes of barnyard animals or fish for a while, but by ''Realms of the Gods'' she can't even do that.

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* In ''Literature/TheImmortals'' by Creator/TamoraPierce, Daine finds that thanks to mind-speaking with and turning into animals, that she can no longer eat wild game. She For a while she can still eat beef, pork, chicken, and fish because she's never had an interest in inhabiting the minds or taking on the shapes of barnyard animals or fish for a while, fish, but by ''Realms of the Gods'' she can't even do that.



* The short story "Literature/LadyIntoFox" was this in a nutshell. About a refined elegant woman, and her husband who was a fox hunter. One day she for no explanation turns into a talking fox. They try to live their lives as best as they can, but she gradually starts to lose her mind. Becomes more interested in chasing rabbits, soon enough she slowly loses her humanity, forgetting who her husband his, losing her ability to talk, as well as the once well mannered dainty lady is now eating live rabbits in the living room, blood everywhere. It was never explained why she transformed but it's implied God or some karmic force punished her husband for killing foxes for a living.

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* The short story "Literature/LadyIntoFox" was this in a nutshell. About It's about a refined elegant woman, and her husband who was a fox hunter. One day she for she--with no explanation turns explanation--turns into a talking fox. They try to live their lives as best as they can, but she gradually starts to lose her mind. Becomes She becomes more interested in chasing rabbits, rabbits; soon enough she slowly loses her humanity, forgetting who her husband his, is and losing her ability to talk, as well as the talk. The once well mannered well-mannered dainty lady is now eating live rabbits in the living room, with blood everywhere. It was never explained why she transformed but it's implied God or some karmic force punished her husband for killing foxes for a living.
28th Feb '16 3:03:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as even after post-procedure Steve Rogers still acts dorky and as Peggy notes, still cannot talk to women. In fact, this was ''[[ConversedTrope why]]'' Erksine picked Steve and tells him as such.

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* ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'':
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Averted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as even after post-procedure Steve Rogers still acts dorky and as Peggy notes, still cannot talk to women. In fact, this was ''[[ConversedTrope why]]'' Erksine Erskine picked Steve and tells him as such.
27th Feb '16 4:34:54 PM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''WildCards'' shared world novels, edited by George R.R. Martin, Jeremiah Strauss is a shapechanger who turned himself into King Kong and then spent several years acting like a gorilla and trying to carry blonde women to the top of the Empire State Building. Later transformations into a werewolf from ''TheHowling'' and the ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' almost turned out badly as well.

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* In the ''WildCards'' ''Literature/WildCards'' shared world novels, edited by George R.R. Martin, Jeremiah Strauss is a shapechanger who turned himself into King Kong and then spent several years acting like a gorilla and trying to carry blonde women to the top of the Empire State Building. Later transformations into a werewolf from ''TheHowling'' ''Film/TheHowling'' and the ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' almost turned out badly as well.



* We're told in the ''[[TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms Five Hundred Kingdoms]]'' series by MercedesLackey that only the most powerful Sorcerers or Sorceresses can transform a person into an animal without that person losing his mind to the animal. However, since the books focus on Godmothers, we don't see this in action. In the first book, Elena transforms Alexander into a donkey, but has to give him regular time as a human. In "The Snow Queen", Aleksia takes several animal forms, but even as a polar bear (which has a large enough brain to "fit" a human mind into) the animal instincts get stronger the longer she remains changed.

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* We're told in the ''[[TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms Five Hundred Kingdoms]]'' series by MercedesLackey that only the most powerful Sorcerers or Sorceresses can transform a person into an animal without that person losing his mind to the animal. However, since the books focus on Godmothers, we don't see this in action. In the first book, Elena transforms Alexander into a donkey, but has to give him regular time as a human. In "The Snow Queen", Aleksia takes several animal forms, but even as a polar bear (which has a large enough brain to "fit" a human mind into) the animal instincts get stronger the longer she remains changed.



* The short story "LadyIntoFox" was this in a nutshell. About a refined elegant woman, and her husband who was a fox hunter. One day she for no explanation turns into a talking fox. They try to live their lives as best as they can, but she gradually starts to lose her mind. Becomes more interested in chasing rabbits, soon enough she slowly loses her humanity, forgetting who her husband his, losing her ability to talk, as well as the once well mannered dainty lady is now eating live rabbits in the living room, blood everywhere. It was never explained why she transformed but it's implied God or some karmic force punished her husband for killing foxes for a living.

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* The short story "LadyIntoFox" "Literature/LadyIntoFox" was this in a nutshell. About a refined elegant woman, and her husband who was a fox hunter. One day she for no explanation turns into a talking fox. They try to live their lives as best as they can, but she gradually starts to lose her mind. Becomes more interested in chasing rabbits, soon enough she slowly loses her humanity, forgetting who her husband his, losing her ability to talk, as well as the once well mannered dainty lady is now eating live rabbits in the living room, blood everywhere. It was never explained why she transformed but it's implied God or some karmic force punished her husband for killing foxes for a living.
24th Jan '16 11:59:34 AM intastiel
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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Reynardine's behavior seems to match his outward form: when he's a [[SnarkyNonhumanSidekick pint-sized plushy]], he's snarky and generally unpleasant; when he's a NobleWolf, he's helpful and seemingly concerned with Antimony's well-being. It's unclear which is the cause and which is the effect.
--->'''Kat:''' You should stay as a wolf more often, dude. You're much nicer this way.\\
'''Reynardine:''' Well, the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body, correct?
*** WordOfGod says that he changes form based on how he's feeling. That is, Rey was ''[[SarcasmMode being sarcastic]]''.
*** Wouldn't that make this an example of "The Body Is A Plaything Of The Mind"?
** Another possible example is Alistair. [[WordOfGod Word Of Tom]] says that Alistair now has a bird's brain, and all that entails. On the other hand, even as a bird he seemed to recognize Kat and retain his feelings for her.
*** Later information makes it unclear what, exactly "all that entails": WordOfGod is that ''City Face'', a short story featuring sapient pigeons, is {{canon}}. So it's not much of a stretch at all to assume that Ali and his parents retained their sapience when they were turned to birds.
** Further word on the issue: ''[[http://www.formspring.me/gunnerkrigg/q/395671625 "Sometimes their behaviour can be affected, but the personality is the same. Much like Reynardine."]]''

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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Reynardine's behavior seems to match ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'':
** Reynardine mentions the trope when Kat observes that
his outward form: personality is more pleasant when he's in his wolf form than when he's a [[SnarkyNonhumanSidekick pint-sized plushy]], he's snarky and generally unpleasant; when he's a NobleWolf, he's helpful and seemingly concerned with Antimony's well-being. It's unclear which is the cause and which is the effect.
--->'''Kat:''' You should stay as a wolf more often, dude. You're much nicer this way.\\
'''Reynardine:''' Well, the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body, correct?
*** WordOfGod says that
plushy. It turns out to be an InvertedTrope: he changes form based on how he's feeling. That is, Rey was ''[[SarcasmMode being sarcastic]]''.
*** Wouldn't that make this an example of "The Body Is A Plaything Of The Mind"?
feeling.
** Another possible example is Alistair. [[WordOfGod Word Of Tom]] says that Alistair now has is permanently turned into a bird, with "a bird's brain, brain and all that entails. On the other hand, even as a bird he seemed to recognize Kat and retain his feelings for her.
*** Later information makes it unclear what, exactly "all that entails":
entails." WordOfGod is clarifies that ''City Face'', a short story featuring sapient pigeons, is {{canon}}. So it's not much of a stretch at all to assume that Ali and his parents retained their sapience when they were turned to birds.
** Further word on the issue: ''[[http://www.formspring.me/gunnerkrigg/q/395671625 "Sometimes their behaviour can be affected, but
the personality is remains the same. Much like Reynardine."]]''same, but behaviour is affected by the body -- though the presence of sapient pigeons in the setting muddies the waters.
21st Jan '16 4:33:27 PM res20stupid
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* Two characters in ''VideoGame/DigimonStoryCyberSleuth'' are comatose humans possessed by Digimon with their personalities being amalgamations of the two individuals. For example, [[spoiler: the real Kyoko would be smart enough not to put all those weird ingredients like oyster sauce or mayonnaise into coffee.]]
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