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4th Feb '17 7:20:19 AM flodoris
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* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from the Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha, who attempted a coup to take over the Leaf Village, which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Madara Uchiha, who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha, who kills the main character's parents and forms]] a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. And of course, there's Sasuke, who not only abandons his friends and comrades, causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.

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* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from the Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha, [[spoiler: [[TheLeader Fugaku Uchiha]], who attempted a coup to take over the Leaf Village, which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Massacre, [[AloofBigBrother Itachi Uchiha]] whose desire to protect his younger brother led him to placed Sasuke on the path for revenge, only to shield him from the truth of the coup, but ending up making things worse once Sasuke found out about it and the added burden Itachi carried. [[GreaterScopeVillain Madara Uchiha, Uchiha]], who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha, [[BigBad Obito Uchiha]], who kills the main character's parents and forms]] forms a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. genjutsu. And of course, there's Sasuke, [[{{Deuteragonist}} Sasuke Uchiha]], who not only abandons his friends and comrades, causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.
24th Jan '17 9:18:40 PM JM1982
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* Subverted in several episodes of ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget''. The title character is often an IdiotHero and UselessProtagonist, but there are multiple examples of his screw-ups either helping his {{Hypercompetent Sidekick}}s save the day, or simply destroying the villains' plans outright.
8th Jan '17 10:38:34 PM Vir
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* Stan Smith of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. This is most prominently shown in the hurricane episode, in which his attempts to save the family just keep making things worse and nearly get everyone killed. Francine even flat-out tells Stan to his face that, while his crisis-based decisions may ''seem'' reasonable at first, they ''always'' end badly.

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* Stan Smith of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' This is most prominently shown in the hurricane episode, in which his attempts to save the family just keep making things worse and nearly get everyone killed. Francine even flat-out tells Stan to his face that, while his crisis-based decisions may ''seem'' reasonable at first, they ''always'' end badly.
7th Jan '17 3:10:04 PM nombretomado
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* The famous ''WebVideo/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'' plays this trope for laughs, but actually subverts this on further inspection: in this video, the ''entire party'' -- or at least the leader -- is a Millstone. The overly complicated plan made ''no sense at all'' and was not appropriate whatsoever for this encounter. Leeroy did nothing but speed up their demise. He even followed one major part of the plan exactly[[note]]Use the ability Divine Intervention on the mages to protect them as they cast their area spells[[/note]], but it didn't work because the leader of the group apparently ''[[ReadTheFreakingManual did not even read]]'' the description for the ability he asked for[[note]]It plainly says the protected player ''cannot attack'' while under the effect[[/note]].

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* The famous ''WebVideo/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'' ''Machinima/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'' plays this trope for laughs, but actually subverts this on further inspection: in this video, the ''entire party'' -- or at least the leader -- is a Millstone. The overly complicated plan made ''no sense at all'' and was not appropriate whatsoever for this encounter. Leeroy did nothing but speed up their demise. He even followed one major part of the plan exactly[[note]]Use the ability Divine Intervention on the mages to protect them as they cast their area spells[[/note]], but it didn't work because the leader of the group apparently ''[[ReadTheFreakingManual did not even read]]'' the description for the ability he asked for[[note]]It plainly says the protected player ''cannot attack'' while under the effect[[/note]].
4th Jan '17 3:13:14 PM Milarqui
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** However, even those two Freys' dunderheaded drives to be pains for their Family is massively eclipsed by the walking [[StupidEvil disaster-zone]] [[VillainBall that is]] [[RoyalBrat Joffery]] [[TheCaligula Baratheon]]... Thanks for the stellar job raising him, Cersei: [[spoiler:[[MommasBoy like mother, like son]].]] His decisions cost almost ''everybody'' in the Seven Kingdoms dearly.

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** However, even those two Freys' dunderheaded drives to be pains for their Family is massively eclipsed by the walking [[StupidEvil disaster-zone]] [[VillainBall that is]] [[RoyalBrat Joffery]] Joffrey]] [[TheCaligula Baratheon]]... Thanks for the stellar job raising him, Cersei: [[spoiler:[[MommasBoy like mother, like son]].]] His decisions cost almost ''everybody'' in the Seven Kingdoms dearly.
28th Dec '16 6:24:42 PM ShiroAkuma
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* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from the Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha, who attempted a coup to take over the Leaf Village, which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Madara Uchiha. who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha, who kills the main character's parents and forms]] a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. And of course, there's Sasuke, who not only abandons his friends and comrades, causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.

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* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from the Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha, who attempted a coup to take over the Leaf Village, which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Madara Uchiha. Uchiha, who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha, who kills the main character's parents and forms]] a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. And of course, there's Sasuke, who not only abandons his friends and comrades, causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.
30th Nov '16 2:36:17 AM Morgenthaler
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** Joshua Graham was to be this in ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren''. A tough but evil guy who would piss off almost everyone if he were recruited. As opposed to what he [[{{Badass}} became]] in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. The closest thing in New Vegas would be [[ColdSniper Boone]], but only if you planned on allying/being friendly with [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]], since his response to them is to [[BerserkButton shoot on sight]]. Boone at least will let you know beforehand if you're entering Legion territory and asks if you still want him along or if you need to dismiss him.

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** Joshua Graham was to be this in ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren''. A tough but evil guy who would piss off almost everyone if he were recruited. As opposed to what he [[{{Badass}} became]] became in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. The closest thing in New Vegas would be [[ColdSniper Boone]], but only if you planned on allying/being friendly with [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]], since his response to them is to [[BerserkButton shoot on sight]]. Boone at least will let you know beforehand if you're entering Legion territory and asks if you still want him along or if you need to dismiss him.
22nd Nov '16 7:34:22 PM Luigifan
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Things tend to go wrong in drama; this is how drama persists and when something goes wrong, it's usually the fault of The Millstone.

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Things tend to go wrong in drama; this is how drama persists and persists. And when something goes wrong, it's usually the fault of The Millstone.



The trope name comes from the phrase "millstone around my neck". For those not versed in agriculture, a millstone is a large (often 2-3 feet in diameter and weighing several hundred pounds) stone disc used by mills to render things well pulverized, such as grinding grain into flour. The expression originates from [[Literature/TheBible Matthew 18:6]] ("...whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea"), which in turn may be a reference to a form of capital punishment practiced at the time.

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The trope name comes from the phrase "millstone around my neck". For those not versed in agriculture, a millstone is a large (often 2-3 feet in diameter and weighing several hundred pounds) stone disc used by mills to render things well pulverized, such as grinding grain into flour. Yeah. Imagine carrying one of those as a necklace -- you'd be hard-pressed to do much of anything. The expression originates from [[Literature/TheBible Matthew 18:6]] ("...whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea"), which in turn may be a reference to a form of capital punishment practiced at the time.



* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from The Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha who attempted a coup to take over the leaf village which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Madara Uchiha who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha who kills the main character's parents and forms]] a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. And of course, there's Sasuke who not only abandons his friends and comrades causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.

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* Nearly every bad thing that has ever happened in ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' was a result of actions taken by someone from The the Uchiha Clan. The most primitive examples are [[spoiler:Fugaku Uchiha Uchiha, who attempted a coup to take over the leaf village Leaf Village, which provoked Danzo into ordering Itachi to execute The Uchiha Massacre]], Madara Uchiha Uchiha. who manipulates events that throw the ninja world into chaos and war, and [[spoiler:Obito Uchiha Uchiha, who kills the main character's parents and forms]] a terrorist organization that goes out to kill even more people to create a doomsday genjutsu, [[spoiler:all because he loved Rin too much]]. And of course, there's Sasuke Sasuke, who not only abandons his friends and comrades comrades, causing more problems for the heroes, but also [[spoiler:decides to kill off the world leaders, the tailed beasts, and his friends to take over the world for himself.]] At this point, anyone with a Sharingan should be put on a blacklist.



** Near the end of the [[Anime/ExcelSaga anime series]], Il Palazzo realizes this and fires her [[spoiler: by shooting her through the chest and leaving her to die]]; he conquers the city two episodes later (though the city's destruction might have helped with that a little).
** In the manga Excel is so much of a millstone that [[spoiler: When Il Palazzo finally gets off his ass and does something (such as exploring outside of the lair), he only rescues Elgala and Hyatt, and leaves Excel behind, replacing her with a disguised Roppomatsu 1 he also captured, and almost immediately succeeds in taking over the city]]. Interestingly manga Excel is considerably more intelligent than her anime counterpart, even though her hyperactive attitude tends to make it hard to tell. [[spoiler:Il Palazzo's success doesn't seem to be so much due to Excel's absence than it is from his own memory and competence returning to him -- which was also the reason he ditched Excel.]]

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** Near the end of the [[Anime/ExcelSaga anime series]], Il Palazzo realizes this and fires her [[spoiler: by [[spoiler:by shooting her through the chest and leaving her to die]]; he conquers the city two episodes later (though the city's destruction might have helped with that a little).
** In the manga Excel is so much of a millstone that [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:when Il Palazzo finally gets off his ass and does something (such as exploring outside of the lair), he only rescues Elgala and Hyatt, and leaves Excel behind, replacing her with a disguised Roppomatsu 1 he also captured, and almost immediately succeeds in taking over the city]]. Interestingly Interestingly, manga Excel is considerably more intelligent than her anime counterpart, even though her hyperactive attitude tends to make it hard to tell. [[spoiler:Il Palazzo's success doesn't seem to be so much due to Excel's absence than it is from his own memory and competence returning to him -- which was also the reason he ditched Excel.]]



** Silver did turn out to be right about a traitor of sorts being present... [[spoiler: it's Sally Acorn, who has become Roboticized (prior to the universe reset). Naturally, since Sonic still throffed at the mouth at the sight of him, he had trouble explaining this.]]
** Averted the ''[[ADayInTheLimeLight Sonic Universe]]''. In ''Mobius: 30 Years Later'', his intervention in [[AlternateTimeline Light Mobius]] and saved Sonic and Sally from being killed and helped stop [[EldritchAbomination Tikhaos]], but despite hints that [[BadFuture his future]] was the future of Light Mobius during Tikhaos' rampage, his actions had no effect on his future, so he fell back his plan to find a traitor in the Freedom Fighters. In his own story ''The Silver Saga'', he manages to save [[BadFuture Dark Mobius]] from its [[PhysicalGod Enerjak]], resolving a BadFuture that had been briefly touched years earlier and not mentioned till this point.
* Chase Stein is often a millstone to the other ComicBook/{{Runaways}}. His LeeroyJenkins tendencies often end up making things harder for the rest of the team. Case in point: on two occasions, the Runaways have tried to flee from more powerful or better-trained opponents, and in both cases, Chase decided to lay down cover fire, compromising the stealth advantage conferred by the Leapfrog's cloaking systems.

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** Silver did turn out to be right about a traitor of sorts being present... [[spoiler: it's [[spoiler:it's Sally Acorn, who has become Roboticized (prior to the universe reset). Naturally, since Sonic still throffed at the mouth at the sight of him, he had trouble explaining this.]]
** Averted the ''[[ADayInTheLimeLight Sonic Universe]]''. In ''Mobius: 30 Years Later'', his intervention in [[AlternateTimeline Light Mobius]] and saved Sonic and Sally from being killed and helped stop [[EldritchAbomination Tikhaos]], but despite hints that [[BadFuture his future]] was the future of Light Mobius during Tikhaos' rampage, his actions had no effect on his future, so he fell back to his plan to find a traitor in the Freedom Fighters. In his own story story, ''The Silver Saga'', he manages to save [[BadFuture Dark Mobius]] from its [[PhysicalGod Enerjak]], resolving a BadFuture that had been briefly touched years earlier and not mentioned till this point.
* Chase Stein is often a millstone to the other ComicBook/{{Runaways}}. His LeeroyJenkins tendencies often end up making things harder for the rest of the team. Case in point: on two occasions, the Runaways have tried to flee from more powerful or better-trained opponents, and in both cases, Chase decided to lay down cover covering fire, compromising the stealth advantage conferred by the Leapfrog's cloaking systems.



* In "WesternAnimation/InsideOut", any of the 5 emotions who are not Joy messes up control over Riley one way over the other. Anger is the biggest offender in this regard as every action he takes to control Riley results in the destruction of her 5 core personality islands. Sadness WAS responsible for interfering with Riley's core memories that caused her and Joy to be sucked out of headquarters, but it was also important to the story as it's revealed that [[spoiler:Sadness helps Riley open herself up about her disappointments which eventually turns into happiness.]]

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* In "WesternAnimation/InsideOut", any of the 5 emotions who are not Joy messes up control over Riley one way over the other. Anger is the biggest offender in this regard regard, as every action he takes to control Riley results in the destruction of her 5 core personality islands. Sadness WAS responsible for interfering with Riley's core memories that caused her and Joy to be sucked out of headquarters, but it was also important to the story as it's revealed that [[spoiler:Sadness helps Riley open herself up about her disappointments disappointments, which eventually turns into happiness.]]



* ''Film/TheBigLebowski'': Walter Sobchak is a cross between this and a total [[{{Jerkass}} asshole]]. Everything goes completely wrong for the Dude the moment he opens his mouth or comes up with a plan of his own. The kicker? [[spoiler: Walter's was right all along.]]

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* ''Film/TheBigLebowski'': Walter Sobchak is a cross between this and a total [[{{Jerkass}} asshole]]. Everything goes completely wrong for the Dude the moment he opens his mouth or comes up with a plan of his own. The kicker? [[spoiler: Walter's [[spoiler:Walter's was right all along.]]



* Peregrin Took in ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', where he's responsible for, among other things: drunkenly revealing Frodo's identity to everybody within earshot, starting a fire at Weathertop that attracts the Ringwraiths, waking up The Watcher which forces the Fellowship to flee into Moria, and finally waking up everything ''in'' Moria when they're knee-deep in it. He does eventually [[TookALevelInBadass grow out of it]] though.

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* Peregrin Took in ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', where he's responsible for, among other things: drunkenly revealing Frodo's identity to everybody within earshot, starting a fire at Weathertop that attracts the Ringwraiths, waking up The Watcher which forces the Fellowship to flee into Moria, and finally waking up everything ''in'' Moria when they're knee-deep in it. He does eventually [[TookALevelInBadass grow out of it]] it]], though.



** Before [[spoiler: Santoro's live burial]], the Mafia bosses notice that the profits from the Skim are actually being skimmed, so they send in Artie Piscano to try and get the situation under control. Unfortunately, he's even more disastrous than Nicky: not only is he an incompetent, but he ends up giving the police evidence by keeping detailed financial records of just about everything relating to the Skim.
* Vicki Vale in ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' went from being a fairly competent character to being TheLoad to finally being this trope. She makes things more difficult for Batman when they flee the museum simply by not running when she had the chance. Some minutes later, she almost gets Batman killed - and then almost publicly unmasked - by lying to him about her weight when he tries using a motorized cord to pull them up to the roof. She does manage to rescue him, but what happened was still her own fault and Batman feels compelled to scold her afterward.
* ''Film/PulpFiction'': Vincent Vega manages to make things infinitely worse for himself and everyone around him in almost every situation because of his [[WhatAnIdiot profound stupidity]]. Him [[spoiler: [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace shooting Marvin]]]] turned a simple mission into a long series of grief and stress for him and Jules.
* The causal viewer may not notice at first because he's the closest to a "main" protagonist, but every major problem the team face in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'' is caused by Dr. Peter Venkman. The Dean at Columbia U specifically cites his smarmy attitude and freewheeling approach to the scientific method as the reasons for kicking the team off campus, his overly-forward attempts to hit on Dana almost cost them their first customer, and his antagonizing of EPA agent Walter Peck backfires horribly when Peck turns out to be a petty tyrant who orders their containment grid shut down, freeing hundreds of trapped ghosts and speeding along the BigBad's plan. Despite this, Venkman can be considered a subversion of the usual Millstone, since it's his cleverness, resourcefulness and silver tongue that always end up fixing the problems he causes.

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** Before [[spoiler: Santoro's [[spoiler:Santoro's [[BuriedAlive live burial]], burial]]]], the Mafia bosses notice that the profits from the Skim are actually being skimmed, so they send in Artie Piscano to try and get the situation under control. Unfortunately, he's even more disastrous than Nicky: not only is he an incompetent, but he ends up giving the police evidence by keeping detailed financial records of just about everything relating to the Skim.
* Vicki Vale in ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' went from being a fairly competent character to being TheLoad to finally being this trope. She makes things more difficult for Batman when they flee the museum simply by not running when she had the chance. Some minutes later, she almost gets Batman killed - -- and then almost publicly unmasked - -- by lying to him about her weight when he tries using a motorized cord to pull them up to the roof. She does manage to rescue him, but what happened was still her own fault and Batman feels compelled to scold her afterward.
* ''Film/PulpFiction'': Vincent Vega manages to make things infinitely worse for himself and everyone around him in almost every situation because of his [[WhatAnIdiot profound stupidity]]. Him [[spoiler: [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace [[spoiler:[[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace shooting Marvin]]]] turned a simple mission into a long series of grief and stress for him and Jules.
* The causal viewer may not notice at first because he's the closest to a "main" protagonist, but every major problem the team face in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'' is caused by Dr. Peter Venkman. The Dean at Columbia U specifically cites his smarmy attitude and freewheeling approach to the scientific method as the reasons for kicking the team off campus, his overly-forward attempts to hit on Dana almost cost them their first customer, and his antagonizing of EPA agent Walter Peck backfires horribly when Peck turns out to be a petty tyrant who orders their containment grid shut down, freeing hundreds of trapped ghosts and speeding along the BigBad's plan. Despite this, Venkman can be considered a subversion of the usual Millstone, since it's his cleverness, resourcefulness resourcefulness, and silver tongue that always end up fixing the problems he causes.



* ''Literature/TheTwelveChairs'': Ippolit Matveyevich "Kisa" Vorobyaninov first is an employer to his MagnificentBastard companyon Ostap Bender, then becomes TheLoad... and then, when they almost buy the titular jewel-stuffed MacGuffin, not only does Kisa get drunk and spend all the cash, he completely screws ''any possibility'' of them buying the chairs ever and causes the chairs to be sold separately. Throughout the story he degrades morally and ends up ''[[MoralEventHorizon killing Ostap in the sleep]]'' (luckily, he got better) right before going for the final chair, only to discover that treasure was already found and taken away due to his own stupidity.
* ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDragokin'': Benji's over-eagerness combined with his incompetence cause a great deal of trouble. [[spoiler: It's his fault that Final Shield was destroyed and [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs its city was invaded.]]]]

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* ''Literature/TheTwelveChairs'': Ippolit Matveyevich "Kisa" Vorobyaninov first is an employer to his MagnificentBastard companyon Ostap Bender, then becomes TheLoad... and then, when they almost buy the titular jewel-stuffed MacGuffin, not only does Kisa get drunk and spend all the cash, he completely screws ''any possibility'' of them buying the chairs ever and causes the chairs to be sold separately. Throughout the story story, he degrades morally and ends up ''[[MoralEventHorizon killing Ostap in the his sleep]]'' (luckily, he got better) right before going for the final chair, only to discover that the treasure was already found and taken away due to his own stupidity.
* ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDragokin'': Benji's over-eagerness combined with his incompetence cause a great deal of trouble. [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's his fault that Final Shield was destroyed and [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs its city was invaded.]]]]



** [[WhatAnIdiot Merrett]] "[[MeaningfulName Muttonhead]]" [[SmugSnake Frey]] is a wonderful example of the breed, for instance: almost any venture he's touched hasn't gone well, dating back to being a young teen. As is [[FatBastard Ryman]] [[SmugSnake Frey]]... given that he is one of the heirs to the House, it's almost a relief for readers to learn that the vastly more competent and ruthless Black Walder is widely considered by other Freys as being likely out to kill him (and others) to gain the lordship. Politically smooth and savvy the gormless twerp ''isn't''. Which explains why no other Freys are moving to defend him against Black Walder.
** However, even those two Freys' dunderheaded drives to be pains for their Family is massively eclipsed by the walking [[StupidEvil disaster-zone]] [[VillainBall that is]] [[RoyalBrat Joffery]] [[TheCaligula Baratheon]]... Thanks for the stellar job raising him, Cersei: [[spoiler: [[MommasBoy like mother, like son]].]] His decisions cost almost ''everybody'' in the Seven Kingdoms dearly.
** Subverted/ deconstructed ones come in the shapes of [[LeeroyJenkins Lord Edmure Tully]] and [[DumbBlonde Lancel Lannister]]: others treat them with varying degrees of contempt having prejudged them to be Millstones. Which becomes clear is ''the'' actual root cause of problems they get blamed for when they are put in [[MortonsFork situations they just couldn't win]] even if there were cheat codes available.

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** [[WhatAnIdiot Merrett]] "[[MeaningfulName Muttonhead]]" [[SmugSnake Frey]] is a wonderful example of the breed, for instance: almost any venture he's touched hasn't gone well, dating back to being a young teen. As is [[FatBastard Ryman]] [[SmugSnake Frey]]... given that he is one of the heirs to the House, it's almost a relief for readers to learn that the vastly more competent and ruthless Black Walder is widely considered by the other Freys as being likely out to kill him (and others) to gain the lordship. Politically smooth and savvy the gormless twerp ''isn't''. Which explains why no other Freys are moving to defend him against Black Walder.
** However, even those two Freys' dunderheaded drives to be pains for their Family is massively eclipsed by the walking [[StupidEvil disaster-zone]] [[VillainBall that is]] [[RoyalBrat Joffery]] [[TheCaligula Baratheon]]... Thanks for the stellar job raising him, Cersei: [[spoiler: [[MommasBoy [[spoiler:[[MommasBoy like mother, like son]].]] His decisions cost almost ''everybody'' in the Seven Kingdoms dearly.
** Subverted/ deconstructed Subverted[=/=]deconstructed ones come in the shapes of [[LeeroyJenkins Lord Edmure Tully]] and [[DumbBlonde Lancel Lannister]]: others treat them with varying degrees of contempt contempt, having prejudged pre-judged them to be Millstones. Which becomes clear is ''the'' actual root cause of problems they get blamed for when they are put in [[MortonsFork situations they just couldn't win]] even if there were cheat codes available.



** Joffrey "Baratheon" is as completely evil as a 13-year-old RoyalBrat can be... but it's NOT his family's biggest problem. It's his utter stupidity which first causes a war and then places a constant the Lannisters' politics several times. All of his family members around, who vary in terms of both intelligence and conscience themselves, spend half of their energy trying to knock not even some morality, but some sense of PragmaticVillainy into him, to no avail. In fact, Joffrey's very life ends because someone finally decides that working around him is impossible.
** Cersei picks up where her son left off, and it beomes perfectly clear where he got it from. While Joffrey at least had Tywin and Tyrion ''attempting'' to run interference, Cersei doesn't have anyone keeping her in check. Her tendency to fill her council with Yes Men and her petty feud with her daughter-in-law Margaery Tyrell end up [[spoiler:delivering King's Landing to armed zealots who lock her up in a cell and the creation of a brand new pirate fleet (consisting of ships she bankrupt the Seven Kingdoms to build)]]. Even Littlefinger is shocked by her incompetence. He expected her to run the Seven Kingdoms into the ground, but not that quickly.
* Manny Heffley in the ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' series is often shown screwing things up for Greg and sometimes even the entire family across the entire series. This came to a head in the 9th book ''The Long Haul'' where he's a hindrance to the family's vacation plans and road trip at many points throughout the book. (Forcing the family to skip several stops they wanted to make because he throws a tantrum whenever his naps are interrupted, constantly trying to run away to find a pig they had won at a fair and were forced to give up, etc.) [[spoiler: It isn't until the end of the book that he finally manages to vindicate himself by getting the family out of trouble by way of his surprisingly fluent Spanish...even if it was just to go back to a petting zoo where the Heffleys had left the aforementioned pig.]]

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** Joffrey "Baratheon" is as completely evil as a 13-year-old RoyalBrat can be... but it's NOT his family's biggest problem. It's his [[StupidEvil utter stupidity stupidity]] which first causes a war and then places a constant the Lannisters' politics several times. All of his family members around, who vary in terms of both intelligence and conscience themselves, spend half of their energy trying to knock not even some morality, but some sense of PragmaticVillainy into him, to no avail. In fact, Joffrey's very life ends because someone finally decides that working around him is impossible.
** Cersei picks up where her son left off, and it beomes perfectly clear where he got it from. While Joffrey at least had Tywin and Tyrion ''attempting'' to run interference, Cersei doesn't have anyone keeping her in check. Her tendency to fill her council with [[YesMan Yes Men Men]] and her petty feud with her daughter-in-law Margaery Tyrell end up [[spoiler:delivering King's Landing to armed zealots who lock her up in a cell and the creation of a brand new pirate fleet (consisting of ships she bankrupt the Seven Kingdoms to build)]]. Even Littlefinger is shocked by her incompetence. He expected her to run the Seven Kingdoms into the ground, but not that quickly.
* Manny Heffley in the ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' series is often shown screwing things up for Greg and sometimes even the entire family across the entire series. This came to a head in the 9th book ''The Long Haul'' where he's a hindrance to the family's vacation plans and road trip at many points throughout the book. (Forcing the family to skip several stops they wanted to make because he throws a tantrum whenever his naps are interrupted, constantly trying to run away to find a pig they had won at a fair and were forced to give up, etc.) [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It isn't until the end of the book that he finally manages to vindicate himself by getting the family out of trouble by way of his surprisingly fluent Spanish...even if it was just to go back to a petting zoo where the Heffleys had left the aforementioned pig.]]



** Though Gilligan was the most consistent example, the rest of the castaways all had their moments of becoming this to one or more of the others as well. (Oftentimes if it wasn't Gilligan, it was either one of the Howells or Ginger)

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** Though Gilligan was the most consistent example, the rest of the castaways all had their moments of becoming this to one or more of the others as well. (Oftentimes if it wasn't Gilligan, it was either one of the Howells or Ginger)Ginger.)



* Kate sabotages the outlaws' plans at least five times on ''Series/RobinHood'' for reasons ranging from "I can do it by myself!" to "I'm in a bad mood today!" to "Robin isn't paying enough attention to me!" to absolutely no logical reason at all. On at least three different occasions her presence among the outlaws also turns several ''other'' characters into Millstones when they mess up the plans after getting distracted by whatever stupid mess she's managed to wander into.

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* Kate sabotages the outlaws' plans at least five times on ''Series/RobinHood'' for reasons ranging from "I can do it by myself!" to "I'm in a bad mood today!" to "Robin isn't paying enough attention to me!" to absolutely no logical reason at all. On at least three different occasions occasions, her presence among the outlaws also turns several ''other'' characters into Millstones when they mess up the plans after getting distracted by whatever stupid mess she's managed to wander into.



* A typical episode of Ricky Gervais's ''{{Series/Extras}}'' would involve his character Andy divulging an embarrassing secret to his friend Maggie, who would inevitably spill the beans to someone in a position to humiliate him over it. Yet as Millstone-ish as Maggie could be, it is eventually Andy who is considered his own worst enemy considering ''he never learns to keep his mouth shut.''

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* A typical episode of Ricky Gervais's ''{{Series/Extras}}'' would involve his character Andy divulging an embarrassing secret to his friend Maggie, who would inevitably spill the beans to someone in a position to humiliate him over it. Yet as Millstone-ish as Maggie could be, it is eventually Andy who is considered his own worst enemy enemy, considering ''he never learns to keep his mouth shut.''



* Inverted in ''{{Series/Merlin}}''. Merlin plays this role in his more GenreSavvy moments to keep Arthur's ill-informed plans from going through. For example, ''Aithusa'', where Arthur decides to seek out and smash the last dragon egg[[note]]Dragons in this series are intelligent and this could be considered infanticide, but because Arthur's father raised him to hate magic Arthur is convinced they are mindless monsters who need to be exterminated[[/note]], Merlin decides to go on ahead and nearly kills himself when the tower collapses, so they can't search through the ruins for it. Well, at least the egg is probably destroyed... or it would be, if it wasn't in Merlin's backpack.
** Played straight by many of the series' {{Muggles}}. The show's DrinkingGame page goes thusly: take a shot whenever Merlin could solve a problem in five minutes if A) [[BanOnMagic Magic wasn't banned on pain of death]], B) [[SuicidalOverconfidence They didn't just assume that they can kill anything and that any history that says only magic can kill something is just superstition]], and C) [[IdiotBall They didn't keep ignoring Merlin, despite the fact that he is always right]].
* Neelix from ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' caused nothing but trouble for Janeway and her crew. He destroyed a diplomatic gift Voyager gave as a way to please some violent natives, the Kazon (causing them to seek revenge and chase Voyager for several seasons), failed to find food and got a crew member killed when he was placed in charged of food gathering (this was by having the crewman do a useless task, collect sun dried bones for food use, alone without any thought about his safety) after the crew was marooned (even though Janeway found food in the cave ''they were sleeping in''), since he said he was a [[BlatantLies survival expert]]. Poisoning the ''ship'' (not the crew, the actual '''ship''') with his [[LethalChef cooking]]. At one point, he even committed bona-fide, premeditated ''treason'', with not even a slap on the wrist. Janeway not only made him morale officer, ship cook, but also a DIPLOMAT.

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* Inverted in ''{{Series/Merlin}}''. Merlin plays this role in his more GenreSavvy moments to keep Arthur's ill-informed plans from going through. For example, ''Aithusa'', where Arthur decides to seek out and smash the last dragon egg[[note]]Dragons in this series are intelligent and this could be considered infanticide, but because Arthur's father raised him to hate magic magic, Arthur is convinced they are mindless monsters who need to be exterminated[[/note]], Merlin decides to go on ahead and nearly kills himself when the tower collapses, so they can't search through the ruins for it. Well, at least the egg is probably destroyed... or it would be, if it wasn't in Merlin's backpack.
** Played straight by many of the series' {{Muggles}}. The show's DrinkingGame page goes thusly: take a shot whenever Merlin could solve a problem in five minutes if A) [[BanOnMagic Magic wasn't banned on pain of death]], B) [[SuicidalOverconfidence They didn't just assume that they can kill anything and that any history that says only magic can kill something is just superstition]], and C) [[IdiotBall [[IgnoredExpert They didn't keep ignoring Merlin, despite the fact that he is always right]].
* Neelix from ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' caused nothing but trouble for Janeway and her crew. He destroyed a diplomatic gift Voyager gave as a way to please some violent natives, the Kazon (causing them to seek revenge and chase Voyager for several seasons), failed to find food and got a crew member killed when he was placed in charged charge of food gathering (this was by having the crewman do a useless task, collect sun dried bones for food use, alone without any thought about his safety) after the crew was marooned (even though Janeway found food in the cave ''they were sleeping in''), since he said he was a [[BlatantLies survival expert]]. [[EpicFail Poisoning the ''ship'' the]] ''[[EpicFail ship]]'' (not the crew, the actual '''ship''') with his [[LethalChef cooking]]. At one point, he even committed bona-fide, premeditated ''treason'', with not even a slap on the wrist. Janeway not only made him morale officer, ship cook, but also a DIPLOMAT.



* In ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'', the episodes sometimes play out with the formula of Josh having to suffer because of some scheme of Drake's, and Josh is treated as the ButtMonkey because of it. However, the later season episode "Josh Is Done" deconstructed this trope by demonstrating how much of TheMillstone Drake really is. Josh is finally pushed past his limit and states that he is "done" with Drake as a brother and firmly cuts him out of his life. Drake isn't too bothered by this initially because he thinks Josh needs him, but as the episode goes on things in life proceed to improve for Josh while they deteriorate for Drake. Josh's relationship with his boss improves, a stress rash he's had for years suddenly goes away, he starts doing better in school, and has more time for friends and dating. Drake turns into a basket case who is unable to function because it turns out he relied on Josh for a lot of basic necessities in his life, is unable to focus on his music, and starts getting acne. It all culminates in Drake getting humiliated in chemistry class so badly he ends up running out, but not before apologizing to Josh for everything and for being a bad brother, and admitting he needs Josh way more than Josh needs him. Josh accepts Drake back after his apology.
* ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' had Rygel, and later, Noranti - both of whom were remarkably likely to cause serious trouble for the crew. The episode "Lava's A Many Splendored Thing", for example, had both of them take turns - Rygel got them trapped by trying to rob the crates, and Noranti repeatedly got them into trouble because she was convinced the bad guys were in fact the noble Tarkan freedom fighters, and nearly got them shot several times. While both of them could be useful in the right circumstances, using their diplomatic skills or potions and illusions respectively, they were also prone to setting off the plots of entire episodes through greed, apparent senility, or other forms of poor decision-making.

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* In ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'', the episodes sometimes play out with the formula of Josh having to suffer because of some scheme of Drake's, and Josh is treated as the ButtMonkey because of it. However, the later season episode "Josh Is Done" deconstructed this trope by demonstrating how much of TheMillstone Drake really is. Josh is finally pushed past his limit and states that he is "done" with Drake as a brother and firmly cuts him out of his life. Drake isn't too bothered by this initially because he thinks Josh needs him, but as the episode goes on on, things in life proceed to improve for Josh while they deteriorate for Drake. Josh's relationship with his boss improves, a stress rash he's had for years suddenly goes away, he starts doing better in school, and has more time for friends and dating. Drake turns into a basket case who is unable to function because it turns out he relied on Josh for a lot of basic necessities in his life, is unable to focus on his music, and starts getting acne. It all culminates in Drake getting humiliated in chemistry class so badly he ends up running out, but not before apologizing to Josh for everything and for being a bad brother, and admitting he needs Josh way more than Josh needs him. Josh accepts Drake back after his apology.
* ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' had Rygel, and later, Noranti - -- both of whom were remarkably likely to cause serious trouble for the crew. The episode "Lava's A Many Splendored Thing", for example, had both of them take turns - -- Rygel got them trapped by trying to rob the crates, and Noranti repeatedly got them into trouble because she was convinced the bad guys were in fact the noble Tarkan freedom fighters, and nearly got them shot several times. While both of them could be useful in the right circumstances, using their diplomatic skills or potions and illusions respectively, they were also prone to setting off the plots of entire episodes through greed, apparent senility, or other forms of poor decision-making.



* ''Series/StepByStep'' - Karen seems to fill this role often.
** In one episode of the first season in which the family had gone camping, Karen says she had found a rock that would make a perfect "pedicure stand". Too bad that rock had been holding the truck they had all ridden to the campsite in place- and it ended up falling into the water.
** In another episode when the family gets an answering machine, Karen only listens to the first message of two (that was for her) before leaving immediately. The second message is for Frank- telling him to not come to a site, that it would be demolished instead. Frank could have gotten injured- or worse- had he not gotten out of time. If the message had been relayed, this would not have happened.

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* ''Series/StepByStep'' - ''Series/StepByStep'': Karen seems to fill this role often.
** In one episode of the first season in which the family had gone camping, Karen says she had found a rock that would make a perfect "pedicure stand". Too bad that rock had been holding the truck they had all ridden to the campsite in place- place -- and it ended up falling into the water.
** In another episode episode, when the family gets an answering machine, Karen only listens to the first message of two (that was for her) before leaving immediately. The second message is for Frank- Frank -- telling him to not come to a site, that it would be demolished instead. Frank could have gotten injured- injured -- or worse- worse -- had he not gotten out of in time. If the message had been relayed, this would not have happened.



** Lance Vance. Only helpful thing he ever does is [[spoiler: betray you so you can finally shoot his dumb ass]].

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** Lance Vance. Only The only helpful thing he ever does is [[spoiler: betray [[spoiler:betray you so you can finally shoot his dumb ass]].



** Hilary King is even worse. You have to beat him in a race for the story to continue, which is extremely hard. Not because he's so fast, but because he keeps getting himself killed due to game bugs that are triggered by his erratic driving. At no point does he have any use, he doesn't even drive you ''to'' the bank for the robbery. When he finally needs to show his worth in the robbery getaway he [[TooDumbToLive gets out of the car]], [[LeeroyJenkins starts shooting at the SWAT team]] and is instantly killed when they return fire.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' has Jeffrey Cross, better known by his gang name of OG Loc. He thinks he's a rapper, but is not shown to have any quality as a rapper. (or any other profession, for that matter) Exactly why he deserves your help is unclear. The missions you get from him (none of which earn you any money, only an increase in CJ's respect stat) involve: helping take revenge on Freddy, a Vago who [[BlatantLies "supposedly" stole his rhymes as opposed to buggering him in prison and leaving his "macho pride" in shambles]]; steal the rhyme book from Madd Dogg, an actual rapper, then a van with a sound system at a beach party[[note]]between Loc being a complete joke and the people at the party just having a good time and doing no harm, you might actually feel bad when you ruin the party[[/note]]; [[CripplingTheCompetition kill Madd Dogg's manager]][[note]]although he turns out to be involved with the Ballas, so he's a more acceptable target[[/note]]... and after all this trouble, he just decides to violate his parole so he would go [[AllForNothing back to jail]]. In this case, revenge is a dish best served cold: after CJ finds Madd Dogg again and helps the ''true'' rap star back to his feet, they crash one of Loc's music video premieres and eventually his whole career in [[CrowningMomentOfFunny one of the game's funniest missions]].

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** Hilary King is even worse. You have to beat him in a race for the story to continue, which is extremely hard. Not because he's so fast, but because he keeps getting himself killed due to game bugs that are triggered by his erratic driving. At no point does he have any use, he doesn't even drive you ''to'' the bank for the robbery. When he finally needs to show his worth in the robbery getaway getaway, he [[TooDumbToLive gets out of the car]], [[LeeroyJenkins starts shooting at the SWAT team]] team]], and is instantly killed when they return fire.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' has Jeffrey Cross, better known by his gang name of OG Loc. He thinks he's a rapper, but is not shown to have any quality as a rapper. rapper (or any other profession, for that matter) matter). Exactly why he deserves your help is unclear. The missions you get from him (none of which earn you any money, only an increase in CJ's respect stat) involve: helping take revenge on Freddy, a Vago who [[BlatantLies "supposedly" stole his rhymes as opposed to buggering him in prison and leaving his "macho pride" in shambles]]; steal the rhyme book from Madd Dogg, an actual rapper, then a van with a sound system at a beach party[[note]]between Loc being a complete joke and the people at the party just having a good time and doing no harm, you might actually feel bad when you ruin the party[[/note]]; [[CripplingTheCompetition kill Madd Dogg's manager]][[note]]although he turns out to be involved with the Ballas, so he's a more acceptable target[[/note]]... and after all this trouble, he just decides to violate his parole so he would go [[AllForNothing back to jail]]. In this case, revenge is a dish best served cold: after CJ finds Madd Dogg again and helps the ''true'' rap star back to his feet, they crash one of Loc's music video premieres and eventually his whole career in [[CrowningMomentOfFunny one of the game's funniest missions]].



** Joshua Graham was to be this in ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren''. A tough but evil guy who would piss off almost everyone if he were recruited. As opposed to what he [[{{Badass}} became]] in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. The closest thing in New Vegas would be [[ColdSniper Boone]], but only if you planned on allying/being friendly with [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]] since his response to them is to [[BerserkButton shoot on sight]]. Boone at least will you know beforehand if you're entering Legion territory and asks if you still want him along or if you need to dismiss him.

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** Joshua Graham was to be this in ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren''. A tough but evil guy who would piss off almost everyone if he were recruited. As opposed to what he [[{{Badass}} became]] in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. The closest thing in New Vegas would be [[ColdSniper Boone]], but only if you planned on allying/being friendly with [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]] Legion]], since his response to them is to [[BerserkButton shoot on sight]]. Boone at least will let you know beforehand if you're entering Legion territory and asks if you still want him along or if you need to dismiss him.



* ''Any'' EscortMission where a TooDumbToLive escortee jumps in your line of fire, walks instead of running (or runs so fast you can't catch up with them) or even attacks every enemy in sight to guarantee mission failure.

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* ''Any'' EscortMission where a TooDumbToLive escortee jumps in your line of fire, walks instead of running (or runs so fast you can't catch up with them) them), or even attacks every enemy in sight to guarantee mission failure.



** Not to be outdone, ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' has [[TheWoobie Eileen Galvin]], who you spend [[EscortMission the latter half of the game guarding from danger]]. If you give her a weapon, she will flail the nearest enemies, [[ImplacableMan no matter how killable]] [[OurGhostsAreDifferent they are.]] To [[{{Ragequit}} many a first-time player's chagrin]], the more damage Eileen takes, [[spoiler:the faster she dies during the final boss battle, and when she dies, you have a greater chance of getting the DownerEnding where EverybodyDies.]]
* In ''VideoGame/GhostRecon'' your own teammates tend to get themselves killed, by getting themselves shot by the enemy, moving themselves out in the open, or getting in your line of fire.

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** Not to be outdone, ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' has [[TheWoobie Eileen Galvin]], who you spend [[EscortMission the latter half of the game guarding from danger]]. If you give her a weapon, she will flail at the nearest enemies, [[ImplacableMan no matter how killable]] [[OurGhostsAreDifferent they are.]] To [[{{Ragequit}} [[RageQuit many a first-time player's chagrin]], the more damage Eileen takes, [[spoiler:the faster she dies during the final boss battle, and when she dies, you have a greater chance of getting the DownerEnding where EverybodyDies.]]
* In ''VideoGame/GhostRecon'' ''VideoGame/GhostRecon'', your own teammates tend to get themselves killed, by getting themselves shot by the enemy, moving themselves out in the open, or getting in your line of fire.



** First, [[spoiler:he made a deal with bandits to trade them supplies in exchange for not hurting his friend - when he realized they didn't ''have'' his friend, he ''continued'' giving them supplies because they'd threatened to kill him]].
** Second, [[spoiler:his not confessing to the paranoid Lilly about his guilt winds up in getting either Doug or Carley killed, depending on who survived the encounter in the drug store]].
** Third, [[spoiler:as a result of his pissing off the bandits to such a degree, Duck winds up getting bitten by a walker during a bandit raid, and Katjaa is DrivenToSuicide as a result of being unwilling to MercyKill Duck.]].

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** First, [[spoiler:he made a deal with bandits to trade them supplies in exchange for not hurting his friend - -- when he realized they didn't ''have'' his friend, he ''continued'' giving them supplies because they'd threatened to kill him]].
** Second, [[spoiler:his not confessing to the paranoid Lilly about his guilt winds up in getting either Doug or Carley killed, depending on who survived the encounter in the drug store]].
** Third, [[spoiler:as a result of his pissing off the bandits to such a degree, Duck winds up getting bitten by a walker during a bandit raid, and Katjaa is DrivenToSuicide as a result of being unwilling to MercyKill Duck.]].Duck]].



*** Though its worth noting for the last one that the zombies had stopped trying to break through the door he took the axe out of and the windows were completely covered in blood by that point. You actually walk past the doors on your way back to where everyone else is before Ben shows up with the axe that was used to keep the door shut.

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*** Though its it's worth noting for the last one that the zombies had stopped trying to break through the door he took the axe out of and the windows were completely covered in blood by that point. You actually walk past the doors on your way back to where everyone else is before Ben shows up with the axe that was used to keep the door shut.



** Steve pops in when Ashford ambushes Claire, getting shot for his troubles and hitting Ashford with a wild shot. When they close in for the kill, Steve has Ashford at gunpoint for about twenty seconds before Ashford just runs away - and apparently the only reason Steve didn't shoot is because he was weirded out by Ashford being a transvestite.

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** Steve pops in when Ashford ambushes Claire, getting shot for his troubles and hitting Ashford with a wild shot. When they close in for the kill, Steve has Ashford at gunpoint for about twenty seconds before Ashford just runs away - -- and apparently the only reason Steve didn't shoot is because he was weirded out by Ashford being a transvestite.



** When that fails, Ashford takes control of the plane Steve's piloting to crash land into ''Antarctica''.

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** When that fails, Ashford takes control of the plane Steve's piloting to crash land crash-land into ''Antarctica''.



** Finally, Steve gets kidnapped and Claire has to deal with his monstrous form - and she can take any weapons she wants from the item box, forcing Chris to use the leftovers for the real final battle instead of the glorified cutscene battle.

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** Finally, Steve gets kidnapped and Claire has to deal with his monstrous form - -- and she can take any weapons she wants from the item box, forcing Chris to use the leftovers for the real final battle instead of the glorified cutscene battle.



** Grif from the Red army fits the trope perfectly. Being a conscript, he is unwilling to work, has terrible stamina and practically is Red Team's ButtMonkey. More to the point, he regularly shirks his duty -- during one battle, he forgot to bring the spare ammo. In another scenario, he sold all the spare ammo to the Blues. In Grif's own defense, he's intentionally The Millstone; he's trying to get discharged by any means possible, up to and including criminal negligence. In the rare occasion when he's actually trying, he's a lot more useful. Still, you begin to understand after a while why Sarge makes a point of trying to get Grif killed when he makes battle plans.

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** Grif from the Red army fits the trope perfectly. Being a conscript, he is unwilling to work, has terrible stamina stamina, and practically is Red Team's ButtMonkey. More to the point, he regularly shirks his duty -- during one battle, he forgot to bring the spare ammo. In another scenario, he sold all the spare ammo to the Blues. In Grif's own defense, he's intentionally The Millstone; he's trying to get discharged by any means possible, up to and including criminal negligence. In the rare occasion when he's actually trying, he's a lot more useful. Still, you begin to understand after a while why Sarge makes a point of trying to get Grif killed when he makes battle plans.



*** Luckily (for him) he's lovable enough that he's turned into the TeamPet.
* The famous ''WebVideo/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'' plays this trope for laughs, but actually subverts this on further inspection: in this video, the ''entire party'' -- or at least the leader -- is a Millstone. The overly complicated plan made ''no sense at all'' and was not appropriate whatsoever for this encounter. Leeroy did nothing but speed up their demise. He even followed one major part of the plan exactly[[note]]Use the ability Divine Intervention on the mages to protect them as they cast their area spells[[/note]] but it didn't work because the leader of the group apparently ''[[ReadTheFreakingManual did not even read]]'' the description for the ability he asked for[[note]]It plainly says the protected player ''cannot attack'' while under the effect[[/note]].

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*** Luckily (for him) him), he's lovable enough that he's turned into the TeamPet.
* The famous ''WebVideo/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'' plays this trope for laughs, but actually subverts this on further inspection: in this video, the ''entire party'' -- or at least the leader -- is a Millstone. The overly complicated plan made ''no sense at all'' and was not appropriate whatsoever for this encounter. Leeroy did nothing but speed up their demise. He even followed one major part of the plan exactly[[note]]Use the ability Divine Intervention on the mages to protect them as they cast their area spells[[/note]] spells[[/note]], but it didn't work because the leader of the group apparently ''[[ReadTheFreakingManual did not even read]]'' the description for the ability he asked for[[note]]It plainly says the protected player ''cannot attack'' while under the effect[[/note]].



** Originally, Roy considered Elan to be this and when the latter was kidnapped, Roy was hesitant to go and save him. However, he later decided that this was a jerk move and goes to rescue him. Elan eventually TookALevelInBadass in a class that lets him use his GenreSavvy more efficiently, though he still occasionally had his moments. Combined with (modestly) improved Int, several new skills and spells and with better ability to use his existing ones, he has become a valuable [[TheFace Face]] and a reasonable asset in a fight.
** The real Millstone of the Order is certainly Belkar. His sociopathy and frequent refusal to listen to orders ruin the party's planning several times -- for example, leaving the spellcasters undefended to kill goblins, putting the bandit camp on fire because he couldn't wait, or killing the Oracle. If it weren't for Belkar, would Miko have reported an imminent hobgoblin invasion in time prevent it, or would she still have slain the leader while he was conspiring with the apparent allies of those invaders? If he hadn't pursued Miko to torment her over his childish grudge, would Azure City not have fallen and Soon's Gate remain intact? After a VisionQuest, fake character development, and then some real CharacterDevelopment, he seems to be growing out of it.

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** Originally, Roy considered Elan to be this this, and when the latter was kidnapped, Roy was hesitant to go and save him. However, he later decided that this was abandoning him would be a jerk move and goes to rescue him. Elan eventually TookALevelInBadass in a class that lets him use his GenreSavvy more efficiently, though he still occasionally had his moments. Combined with (modestly) improved Int, several new skills and spells spells, and with better ability to use his existing ones, he has become a valuable [[TheFace Face]] and a reasonable asset in a fight.
** The real Millstone of the Order is certainly Belkar. His sociopathy and frequent refusal to listen to orders ruin the party's planning several times -- for example, leaving the spellcasters undefended to kill goblins, putting the bandit camp on fire because he couldn't wait, or killing the Oracle. If it weren't for Belkar, would Miko have reported an imminent hobgoblin invasion in time to prevent it, or would she still have slain the leader while he was conspiring with the apparent allies of those invaders? If he hadn't pursued Miko to torment her over his childish grudge, would Azure City not have fallen and Soon's Gate remain intact? After a VisionQuest, fake character development, and then some real CharacterDevelopment, he seems to be growing out of it.



** The [[spoiler: Post-Scratch Kids]] play with this, especially [[ThePollyAnna Jane]] and [[EvenTheGuysWantHim Jake]]. They both have the most powerful abilities among the kids - healing more powerful than any other Life hero shown thus far and the ability to make anything imaginable real by believing in it - but spend a good amount of their session having TeenDrama. Even when Jake's powers are tapped to the fullest, his constant shouting of "corny old man" stock phrases makes him more of a minor nuisance than an asset.

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** The [[spoiler: Post-Scratch [[spoiler:Post-Scratch Kids]] play with this, especially [[ThePollyAnna Jane]] and [[EvenTheGuysWantHim Jake]]. They both have the most powerful abilities among the kids - -- healing more powerful than any other Life hero shown thus far and the ability to make anything imaginable real by believing in it - -- but spend a good amount of their session having TeenDrama. Even when Jake's powers are tapped to the fullest, his constant shouting of "corny old man" stock phrases makes him more of a minor nuisance than an asset.



* Gavin Free of Creator/AchievementHunter can undoubtedly claim this title. While his screwups most of the time only hurt himself, numerous times in team games his stupidity has cost his team big in too many examples to really list. As such what's known as his biggest screwup is one of the last few Cops and Crooks videos from their GTA 4 Let's Plays, which actually ended with him getting kicked out of Team Lads for several Let's Plays afterwards after he 1. Actually ''got out'' of the escape helicopter and tried to shoot Michael because he thought he'd get more money (leaving Michael to fly off and leave him to be killed by the opposing teams and also causing his team to lose due to them having more deaths), 2. Was too busy fooling around with the escape boat that he didn't pay attention to where he was going and let the other team win because he ''drove the boat onto the beach'', causing them to lose because the getaway vehicle was now unusable, and 3. the last straw being when he drove the car off of a ramp that took them into an enclosed space where there wasn't any space to drive, allowing the other team to simply roll up and hose them with bullets.
** Jack undoubtedly filled this role for Team Gents during the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C05UMkZkH5k Madden 25 Superbowl Special]]. As Quarterback for the Denver Broncos, Jack threw ''seven'' interceptions [[note]]Actually eight, but one was called due to penalty. And then later he switched controllers with Ryan, who threw three more.[[/note]], ensuring that the Broncos never get an offensive play and becoming Team Lads' greatest weapon. Even Gavin, returning from last year as the Lads' Quarterback and retaining his weak grasp of the controls and ''weaker'' grasp of American Football in general, out preformed him.

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* Gavin Free of Creator/AchievementHunter can undoubtedly claim this title. While his screwups most of the time only hurt himself, numerous times in team games games, his stupidity has cost his team big in too many examples to really list. As such such, what's known as his biggest screwup is one of the last few Cops and Crooks videos from their GTA 4 Let's Plays, which actually ended with him getting kicked out of Team Lads for several Let's Plays afterwards after he 1. Actually ''got out'' of the escape helicopter and tried to shoot Michael because he thought he'd get more money (leaving Michael to fly off and leave him to be killed by the opposing teams and also causing his team to lose due to them having more deaths), 2. Was too busy fooling around with the escape boat that he didn't pay attention to where he was going and let the other team win because he ''drove the boat onto the beach'', causing them to lose because the getaway vehicle was now unusable, and 3. the last straw being when he drove the car off of a ramp that took them into an enclosed space where there wasn't any space to drive, allowing the other team to simply roll up and hose them with bullets.
** Jack undoubtedly filled this role for Team Gents during the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C05UMkZkH5k Madden 25 Superbowl Special]]. As Quarterback for the Denver Broncos, Jack threw ''seven'' interceptions [[note]]Actually eight, but one was called due to penalty. And then later he switched controllers with Ryan, who threw three more.[[/note]], ensuring that the Broncos never get an offensive play and becoming Team Lads' greatest weapon. Even Gavin, returning from last year as the Lads' Quarterback and retaining his weak grasp of the controls and ''weaker'' grasp of American Football in general, out preformed outperformed him.



** Deconstructed, harshly, in TheMovie in which Eddy admits that he is nothing but a selfish loser and that Ed and Edd are pretty much his only friends. [[spoiler:All three Eds are eventually accepted by the other kids after they learn that Eddy's behavior stems from being abused by his utterly cruel older brother.]] In other words, Eddy being The Millstone in the movie is rather important to his CharacterDevelopment.
** In fail of that, usually Ed's stupidity or clumsiness will end up tearing the whole plan apart. A long over elaborate scheme to get an egg is destroyed in one fell swoop by Ed immediately afterwards trying to manually "hatch" the chick inside. In less common instances, Edd's conscience or finickiness will lead him to lose focus or even intentionally hinder a scam.

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** Deconstructed, harshly, in TheMovie TheMovie, in which Eddy admits that he is nothing but a selfish loser and that Ed and Edd are pretty much his only friends. [[spoiler:All three Eds are eventually accepted by the other kids after they learn that Eddy's behavior stems from being abused by his utterly cruel older brother.]] In other words, Eddy being The Millstone in the movie is rather important to his CharacterDevelopment.
** In fail of that, usually Ed's stupidity or clumsiness will end up tearing the whole plan apart. A long over elaborate overly-elaborate scheme to get an egg is destroyed in one fell swoop by Ed immediately afterwards trying to manually "hatch" the chick inside. In less common instances, Edd's conscience or finickiness will lead him to lose focus or even intentionally hinder a scam.



** Cosmo, as well. Many of the problems that occur in the series are due to his sheer stupidity. Granted, he is a loving godfather and he means well, but that doesn't excuse the number of problems he's caused including [[spoiler:essentially being the one who caused Mr. Crocker to lose both him '''and''' Wanda as a child but also indirectly causing Crocker to become the fairy-obsessed lunatic he is today.]] Oh, and he does this ''twice'' (due to Timmy time-traveling to ''prevent'' said incident).
*** A whole episode even centers around him helping Timmy with his homework. His "help" includes creating super-intelligent cockroaches that want to take over the world.

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** Cosmo, as well. Many of the problems that occur in the series are due to his sheer stupidity. Granted, he is a loving godfather and he means well, but that doesn't excuse the number of problems he's caused caused, including [[spoiler:essentially being the one who caused Mr. Crocker to lose both him '''and''' Wanda as a child but also indirectly causing Crocker to become the fairy-obsessed lunatic he is today.]] Oh, and he does this ''twice'' (due to Timmy time-traveling to ''prevent'' said incident).
*** A whole episode even centers around him helping Timmy with his homework. His "help" includes [[EpicFail creating super-intelligent cockroaches that want to take over the world.world]].



** Which is ironic as [[{{Jerkass}} Bloo]] is generally The Millstone for everybody else at Foster's in just about every other episode. That is, for every episode not involving Cheese, the show's resident [[TheDitz Ditz]].

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** Which is ironic ironic, as [[{{Jerkass}} Bloo]] is generally The Millstone for everybody else at Foster's in just about every other episode. That is, for every episode not involving Cheese, the show's resident [[TheDitz Ditz]].



** Invader Zim being the Millstone on his home planet is actually what sets off the whole plot; his leaders send him into deep space (unwittingly, to Earth) simply to get him out of their hair. He's such a Millstone to the planet [[MeaningfulName Irk]] that his introduction has the population ''literally'' groaning in horror at his arrival. His tendency to singlehandedly foil entire military ventures is [[UpToEleven so extreme]] that the Armada thanks him every time they succeed at something - for "being so far away" while they did it.

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** Invader Zim being the Millstone on his home planet is actually what sets off the whole plot; his leaders send him into deep space (unwittingly, to Earth) simply to get him out of their hair. He's such a Millstone to the planet [[MeaningfulName Irk]] that his introduction has the population ''literally'' groaning in horror at his arrival. His tendency to singlehandedly foil entire military ventures is [[UpToEleven so extreme]] that the Armada thanks him every time they succeed at something - -- for "being so far away" while they did it.



** Subversion: Shaggy and Scooby always botch the plan to catch the MonsterOfTheWeek... and in the process of botching it ''succeed'' at catching the monster.

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** Subversion: Shaggy and Scooby always botch the plan to catch the MonsterOfTheWeek... and in the process of botching it it, ''succeed'' at catching the monster.



* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Scratch and Grounder]] are the villainous variety in ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog''. The two are so LethallyStupid that typically, when Robotnik's {{Evil Plan}}s fail, it's because of their bumbling. Ironically, the two were intended to be super-effective soldiers who could beat Sonic ''easily'', but they turned out the exact opposite.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': The TitleCharacter tries to be helpful, but whenever he does try, it's almost a guarantee that he'll either screw it up or do something stupid to make the current situation even worse. Most of their problems happen because Chowder is so LethallyStupid that he constantly ignores Mung Daal's warnings and teachings about the potentially dangerous foods they deal with. It's gotten to the point that Mung has started to blame ''himself'' for the trouble that Chowder causes because he should know better to expect Chowder to listen.

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* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Scratch and Grounder]] are the villainous variety in ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog''. The two are so LethallyStupid that typically, when Robotnik's {{Evil Plan}}s fail, it's because of their bumbling. Ironically, the two were intended to be super-effective soldiers who could beat Sonic ''easily'', but they turned out to be the exact opposite.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': The TitleCharacter tries to be helpful, but whenever he does try, it's almost a guarantee that he'll either screw it up or do something stupid to make the current situation even worse. Most of their problems happen because Chowder is so LethallyStupid that he constantly ignores Mung Daal's warnings and teachings about the potentially dangerous foods they deal with. It's gotten to the point that Mung has started to blame ''himself'' for the trouble that Chowder causes because he should know better than to expect Chowder to listen.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' plays this up whenever he is on a mission with Lana. He will usually do stupid things like leaving their weapons and equipment behind for beer, make outdated assumptions on their objective(he thinks Italy still has a King, and the Swiss Guard actually use halberds instead of MP-5s), or go trigger happy and start shooting everyone wildly.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' plays this up whenever he is on a mission with Lana. He will usually do stupid things like leaving their weapons and equipment behind for beer, make outdated assumptions on their objective(he objective (he thinks Italy still has a King, and the Swiss Guard actually use halberds instead of MP-5s), or go trigger happy and start shooting everyone wildly.
22nd Nov '16 1:31:31 AM TheNerevarine
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* Mina in ''Film/BramStokersDracula''. Because she is in love with the Count, she serves as a heavy burden to the vampire hunters trying to kill him and they use her psychic-connection with him to track him down. She fully transitions to this trope during the climax, when she casts a spell to bring down the sunlight and summon nightfall earlier, which would allow Dracula to come out in full strength and place all the hunters in danger.
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** Roger is much worse, mostly because he often intentionally causes bad things to happen. In the 200th episode, he even [[MikeNelsonDestoyerOfWorlds accidentally caused the apocalypse]]. One episode did in fact have him leave the house and things were actually ''worse without him''.

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** Roger is much worse, mostly because he often intentionally causes bad things to happen. In the 200th episode, he even [[MikeNelsonDestoyerOfWorlds [[MikeNelsonDestroyerOfWorlds accidentally caused the apocalypse]]. One episode did in fact have him leave the house and things were actually ''worse without him''.
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