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30th Sep '17 2:00:20 PM lillolillo
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* Hilariously parodied in ''OnePiece'' with Captain T-Bone.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'':
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Hilariously parodied in ''OnePiece'' with Captain T-Bone.



* Many version of Optimus from ''{{Transformers}}'' share this philosophy.
* Referenced in ''{{Hellsing}}'' during the second attack on the manor. After the outer defenses are breached, one of Pip's men says that in the movies, this is the traditional time for the captain to make a HeroicSacrifice so that his men can escape. Pip replies that there's no point: none of them are going to make it through the night alive no matter what they do. [[spoiler:Since only three of his men (Two in the OVA) survive, Pip not being among them, he was probably right.]]

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* Many version of Optimus from ''{{Transformers}}'' ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' share this philosophy.
* Referenced in ''{{Hellsing}}'' ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' during the second attack on the manor. After the outer defenses are breached, one of Pip's men says that in the movies, this is the traditional time for the captain to make a HeroicSacrifice so that his men can escape. Pip replies that there's no point: none of them are going to make it through the night alive no matter what they do. [[spoiler:Since only three of his men (Two in the OVA) survive, Pip not being among them, he was probably right.]]
11th Sep '17 9:46:37 PM Mullane
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** As the evacuation proceeded, it came under heavy fire. A Coast Guardsmen put his boat in between the men evacuating and the enemy. The captain was killed in action, but received the Medal of Honor.

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** As the evacuation proceeded, it came under heavy fire. A Coast Guardsmen Guardsman, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Albert_Munro Douglas Munro]], put his boat in between the men evacuating and the enemy. The captain enemy. He was killed in action, but received the Medal of Honor.Honor, the only Coast Guardsman ever to do so.
11th Sep '17 4:37:14 PM RebelliousWaffleWarrior
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*In World War 2, Marine General "Chesty" Puller demanded that his troops in the Philippines be evacuated after a Japanese counter-attack cut off his men. He flagged down a destroyer and began to evacuate the men.
** As the evacuation proceeded, it came under heavy fire. A Coast Guardsmen put his boat in between the men evacuating and the enemy. The captain was killed in action, but received the Medal of Honor.
27th Jul '17 9:35:45 AM nighttrainfm
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** This is part of Ashley's family history. Her grandfather fought in the brief First Contact War, and surrendered to the turians to protect civilians and his (starving) troops. Unfortunately, the Alliance brass didn't see it that way, and unofficially blacklisted his entire family.
27th Jul '17 9:32:00 AM nighttrainfm
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** The Warden may opt to do this at one point in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins''. When the party [[spoiler:goes to rescue Queen Anora from Arl Howe's estate, they are confronted by TheDragon, Ser Cauthrien, and a very large contingent of soldiers.]] All of the options boil down to either fighting or surrendering. The battle is very arduous, especially on higher difficulty settings, and so the player may have the Warden surrender peacefully rather than risk their friends. TheDragon is actually impressed by the tactic, and lets everyone else in the party go free (although if Alistair is present, he insists on staying with the Warden).

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** The Warden may opt to do this at one point in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins''. When the party [[spoiler:goes to rescue Queen Anora from Arl Howe's estate, they are confronted by TheDragon, Ser Cauthrien, and a very large contingent of soldiers.]] All of the options boil down to either fighting or surrendering. The battle is very arduous, especially on higher difficulty settings, and so the player may have the Warden surrender peacefully rather than risk their friends. TheDragon is actually impressed by the tactic, and lets everyone else in the party go free (although if Alistair is present, he insists on staying with the Warden). [[spoiler: This allows Anora to sneak out right under their noses, which was the whole point.]]
27th Jul '17 9:31:18 AM nighttrainfm
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** In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', Admiral Zaal'Korris vas Qwib-Qwib insists that you rescue his stranded crew and leave him to the geth after he crashes on [[spoiler:Rannoch]]. Incidentally, rescuing the crew is the 'wrong' choice; you need Korris alive to avoid a GenocideDilemma in a later mission. If you decide to abandon his men and rescue him instead, he is at first extremely angry, but later agrees that it was probably the right decision in the long run after he sees the situation back home.

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** In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', Admiral Zaal'Korris Zaal'Koris vas Qwib-Qwib insists that you rescue his stranded crew and leave him to the geth after he crashes on [[spoiler:Rannoch]]. [[spoiler:Rannoch.]] Incidentally, rescuing the crew is the 'wrong' choice; you need Korris Koris alive to avoid a GenocideDilemma in a later mission. If you decide to abandon his men and rescue him instead, he is at first extremely angry, depressed, but later agrees that it was probably the right decision in the long run after he sees the situation back home.
27th Jul '17 9:30:06 AM nighttrainfm
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* A [[Franchise/MassEffect Paragon Shepard]] can be like this - especially at the end of ''Mass Effect 2'' where [[spoiler:you go after your captured crew and, if the right choices are made, you can save them all and have your whole squad survive the mission. Though its possible for a renegade Shepard to do so, its not exactly in character to do so.]]

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A [[Franchise/MassEffect Paragon Shepard]] Shepard can be like this - especially at the end of ''Mass Effect 2'' 2'', where [[spoiler:you go after your captured crew and, if the right choices are made, you can save them all and have your whole squad survive the mission. Though its It's equally possible for a renegade Renegade Shepard to do so, its save everyone, they just make it clear it's not exactly in character to do so.''necessary''.]]



* The Warden may opt to do this at one point in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins''. When the party [[spoiler:goes to rescue Queen Anora from Arl Howe's estate, they are confronted by TheDragon, Ser Cauthrien, and a very large contingent of soldiers.]] All of the options boil down to either fighting or surrendering. The battle is very arduous, especially on higher difficulty settings, and so the player may have the Warden surrender peacefully rather than risk their friends. TheDragon is actually impressed by the tactic, and lets everyone else in the party go free (although if Alistair is present, he insists on staying with the Warden).

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The Warden may opt to do this at one point in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins''. When the party [[spoiler:goes to rescue Queen Anora from Arl Howe's estate, they are confronted by TheDragon, Ser Cauthrien, and a very large contingent of soldiers.]] All of the options boil down to either fighting or surrendering. The battle is very arduous, especially on higher difficulty settings, and so the player may have the Warden surrender peacefully rather than risk their friends. TheDragon is actually impressed by the tactic, and lets everyone else in the party go free (although if Alistair is present, he insists on staying with the Warden).


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** During the battle at Adamant, the Inquisitor can either have guest-star [[spoiler: Hawke]] stick with them at all times or briefly send them off to help the ordinary soldiers. Nothing much comes of it either way, it's just a minor touch.
29th May '17 6:24:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, [[ImperialJapan Japanese]] [[PropagandaMachine propaganda]] tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had no compassion for their own men and refused to surrender until their men were already dying of hunger and disease. This is stunningly ironic when one considers the way they treated their own men.

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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, [[ImperialJapan [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Japanese]] [[PropagandaMachine propaganda]] tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had no compassion for their own men and refused to surrender until their men were already dying of hunger and disease. This is stunningly ironic when one considers the way they treated their own men.
14th May '17 5:21:04 PM nombretomado
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* Classic ''{{Traveller}}'' Double Adventure ''Horde''. When General Varnikov is cut off behind enemy lines, he refuses to be evacuated until his troops and the refugees they're protecting are saved.

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* Classic ''{{Traveller}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'' Double Adventure ''Horde''. When General Varnikov is cut off behind enemy lines, he refuses to be evacuated until his troops and the refugees they're protecting are saved.
16th Apr '17 3:04:43 PM nombretomado
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* In William King's ''Warhammer 40000'' novel ''SpaceWolf'', when Ragnar is put in charge of the group that must BringNewsBack, he carries an injured one out. He gives him over to the priests for his injuries to be cared for, and one priest inspects Ragnar's own injuries. Ragnar tells him to care for the other SpaceMarine, and the priest assures him that the man is being cared for and orders Ragnar to accept treatment.

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* In William King's ''Warhammer 40000'' novel ''SpaceWolf'', ''Literature/SpaceWolf'', when Ragnar is put in charge of the group that must BringNewsBack, he carries an injured one out. He gives him over to the priests for his injuries to be cared for, and one priest inspects Ragnar's own injuries. Ragnar tells him to care for the other SpaceMarine, and the priest assures him that the man is being cared for and orders Ragnar to accept treatment.
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