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16th Apr '17 3:04:43 PM nombretomado
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* In William King's ''Warhammer 40000'' novel ''SpaceWolf'', when Ragnar is put in charge of the group that must BringNewsBack, he carries an injured one out. He gives him over to the priests for his injuries to be cared for, and one priest inspects Ragnar's own injuries. Ragnar tells him to care for the other SpaceMarine, and the priest assures him that the man is being cared for and orders Ragnar to accept treatment.

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* In William King's ''Warhammer 40000'' novel ''SpaceWolf'', ''Literature/SpaceWolf'', when Ragnar is put in charge of the group that must BringNewsBack, he carries an injured one out. He gives him over to the priests for his injuries to be cared for, and one priest inspects Ragnar's own injuries. Ragnar tells him to care for the other SpaceMarine, and the priest assures him that the man is being cared for and orders Ragnar to accept treatment.
13th Apr '17 5:30:28 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': This is essentially why Bran surrenders Winterfell to Theon and Theon's Ironborn men. He is hoping for peaceful resolution where no one got hurt. Unfortunately, that is not what happens.
22nd Mar '17 12:04:50 PM Bissek
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* This is why Aoshi was an antagonist in the first arc of ''Manga/RurouniKenshin''. After the war, there were plenty of more respectable opportunities available to him than bodyguarding a drug dealer, but as Captain of the Oniwabanshu, he felt that he could not in good conscience take an offer made exclusively for him until he had seen to his men. In the end, most of his people were able to find other jobs after the war, but four of them (two one-trick ponies, a hideously deformed master of disguise and a traitor) were essentially unemployable. Aoshi took the job with Kanryu because he was willing to take on Aoshi's subordinates in order to get Aoshi.
20th Mar '17 8:46:35 PM Enchanter468
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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, [[ImperialJapan Japanese]] [[PropogandaMachine propaganda]] tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had no compassion for their own men and refused to surrender until their men were already dying of hunger and disease. This is stunningly ironic when one considers the way they treated their own men.

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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, [[ImperialJapan Japanese]] [[PropogandaMachine [[PropagandaMachine propaganda]] tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had no compassion for their own men and refused to surrender until their men were already dying of hunger and disease. This is stunningly ironic when one considers the way they treated their own men.
17th Dec '16 5:39:03 AM JustKnown
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*** Finally, it's worth noting that the Army of Northern Virginia actually suffered greater casualties as a percentage of men engaged under Lee than the Army of the Potomac did under Grant but Lee was never excoriated for this because he also embodied AFatherToHisMen



* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, Japanese propaganda tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had had no compassion on their own men, but refused to surrender until their men were dying of hunger and disease.

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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, Japanese propaganda [[ImperialJapan Japanese]] [[PropogandaMachine propaganda]] tried to cover up atrocities against prisoners of war by claiming that it was the fault of American officers who had had no compassion on for their own men, but men and refused to surrender until their men were already dying of hunger and disease.disease. This is stunningly ironic when one considers the way they treated their own men.


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* This philosophy is the primary reason underlying the lopsided victories in the Falklands War and the two Gulf Wars, which demonstrated conclusively that professional volunteers led from the front can easily defeat three times their number of reluctant draftees commanded from behind. Militaristic societies like Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Argentina under the former military Junta tend to treat their officer corps like aristocrats with better food, uniforms and social privileges than their common soldiers; ironically this attitude tends to make their soldiers much less effective on the battlefield.
10th Oct '16 10:16:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* In Creator/DanAbnett's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} GauntsGhosts novel ''The Guns of Tanith'', Gaunt involves himself personally in the military trial of a common trooper. When his superiors object, he says the troopers win the battles. His superior finds this a little [[GoodIsOldFashioned quaint]], but - as one of the ''very'' few [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure decent members]] of the high command - is happy to give Gaunt his way.

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* In Creator/DanAbnett's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} GauntsGhosts Literature/GauntsGhosts novel ''The Guns of Tanith'', Gaunt involves himself personally in the military trial of a common trooper. When his superiors object, he says the troopers win the battles. His superior finds this a little [[GoodIsOldFashioned quaint]], but - as one of the ''very'' few [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure decent members]] of the high command - is happy to give Gaunt his way.
1st Sep '16 12:51:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* [[ColonelBadass Polkovnik]] Orlovsky in ''WorldInConflict: [[ExpansionPack Soviet Assault]]'' decides to save the rest of his men after the fiasco in Cascade Falls and deserts. However, [[spoiler:he is killed by [[KnightTemplar Captain Malashenko]], who takes over the command and leads some of his forces to their death in Seattle. Major Lebedjev, though, understands Orlovsky's concern and saves most of his men in the last moment.]]

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* [[ColonelBadass Polkovnik]] Orlovsky in ''WorldInConflict: ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict: [[ExpansionPack Soviet Assault]]'' decides to save the rest of his men after the fiasco in Cascade Falls and deserts. However, [[spoiler:he is killed by [[KnightTemplar Captain Malashenko]], who takes over the command and leads some of his forces to their death in Seattle. Major Lebedjev, though, understands Orlovsky's concern and saves most of his men in the last moment.]]
25th Aug '16 5:25:44 PM BobTanaka
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** Confederate General Albert Sydney Johnston actually died from a combination of this and WorthyOpponent: during the Battle of Shiloh, he sent his personal physician away to tend to some injured Union soldiers, meaning that he didn't have medical care when he was wounded and bleeding to death.
11th Aug '16 10:01:23 PM PaulA
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* When rescuing prisoners of war, Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] assures them that ''he'' will be going up in the last shuttle.
--> '''Tung:''' Have I expressed myself yet, Sir, on what a dumbshit piece of grandstanding that is?
--> '''Miles:''' Eloquently, with your eyebrows, a little while ago.

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* When rescuing prisoners of war, war in ''Literature/TheBordersOfInfinity'', Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] Vorkosigan assures them that ''he'' will be going up in the last shuttle.
--> '''Tung:''' -->'''Tung:''' Have I expressed myself yet, Sir, on what a dumbshit piece of grandstanding that is?
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'''Miles:''' Eloquently, with your eyebrows, a little while ago.
7th Aug '16 5:17:27 PM Morgenthaler
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* In Creator/SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.

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* In Creator/SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy Literature/DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.



* The Kings and Queens of [[ChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] are supposed to be "the first in every desperate attack, the last in every desperate retreat" -- and those of Archenland, too, as the king warns Shasta in Creator/CSLewis's ''The Horse and His Boy''.

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': The Kings and Queens of [[ChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] Narnia are supposed to be "the first in every desperate attack, the last in every desperate retreat" -- and those of Archenland, too, as the king warns Shasta in Creator/CSLewis's ''The Horse and His Boy''.
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