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1st Sep '16 12:51:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* [[ColonelBadass Polkovnik]] Orlovsky in ''WorldInConflict: [[ExpansionPack Soviet Assault]]'' decides to save the rest of his men after the fiasco in Cascade Falls and deserts. However, [[spoiler:he is killed by [[KnightTemplar Captain Malashenko]], who takes over the command and leads some of his forces to their death in Seattle. Major Lebedjev, though, understands Orlovsky's concern and saves most of his men in the last moment.]]

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* [[ColonelBadass Polkovnik]] Orlovsky in ''WorldInConflict: ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict: [[ExpansionPack Soviet Assault]]'' decides to save the rest of his men after the fiasco in Cascade Falls and deserts. However, [[spoiler:he is killed by [[KnightTemplar Captain Malashenko]], who takes over the command and leads some of his forces to their death in Seattle. Major Lebedjev, though, understands Orlovsky's concern and saves most of his men in the last moment.]]
25th Aug '16 5:25:44 PM BobTanaka
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** Confederate General Albert Sydney Johnston actually died from a combination of this and WorthyOpponent: during the Battle of Shiloh, he sent his personal physician away to tend to some injured Union soldiers, meaning that he didn't have medical care when he was wounded and bleeding to death.
11th Aug '16 10:01:23 PM PaulA
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* When rescuing prisoners of war, Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] assures them that ''he'' will be going up in the last shuttle.
--> '''Tung:''' Have I expressed myself yet, Sir, on what a dumbshit piece of grandstanding that is?
--> '''Miles:''' Eloquently, with your eyebrows, a little while ago.

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* When rescuing prisoners of war, war in ''Literature/TheBordersOfInfinity'', Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] Vorkosigan assures them that ''he'' will be going up in the last shuttle.
--> '''Tung:''' -->'''Tung:''' Have I expressed myself yet, Sir, on what a dumbshit piece of grandstanding that is?
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'''Miles:''' Eloquently, with your eyebrows, a little while ago.
7th Aug '16 5:17:27 PM Morgenthaler
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* In Creator/SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.

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* In Creator/SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy Literature/DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.



* The Kings and Queens of [[ChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] are supposed to be "the first in every desperate attack, the last in every desperate retreat" -- and those of Archenland, too, as the king warns Shasta in Creator/CSLewis's ''The Horse and His Boy''.

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': The Kings and Queens of [[ChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] Narnia are supposed to be "the first in every desperate attack, the last in every desperate retreat" -- and those of Archenland, too, as the king warns Shasta in Creator/CSLewis's ''The Horse and His Boy''.
30th Jul '16 11:13:55 AM SparkyLurkdragon
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* In ''SkiesOfArcadia'', Vyse can pull a moment like this near the game's end when [[spoiler:Ramirez attacks Crescent Isle]]. Vyse trades the {{Mac Guffin}}s that he's collected in exchange for his crew being left alone. Oddly enough, his enemy agrees.

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* In ''SkiesOfArcadia'', ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'', Vyse can pull a moment like this near the game's end when [[spoiler:Ramirez attacks Crescent Isle]]. Vyse trades the {{Mac Guffin}}s that he's collected in exchange for his crew being left alone. Oddly enough, his enemy agrees.
18th Jul '16 10:26:49 PM HeroGal2347
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* ''Series/TheATeam'': Hannibal Smith. In "Curtain Call", he surrenders to [[ArchEnemy Decker]] so they can get medical help for Murdock, who is critically injured. Possibly played with as [[ISurrenderSuckers the team proceeds to fake out Decker and drive away]]. Then in the fifth season, he confesses to a murder he didn't commit so the prosecutor won't go after Murdock.




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* Captain Kirk from ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', being AFatherToHisMen, is always insistent on keeping them safe if possible. On a number of occasions[[note]]"The Squire of Gothos", "The Immunity Syndrome", "The Empath"[[/note]], he has wanted to pull a HeroicSacrifice (or even tried to do so) to ensure the well-being of his crew, and torturing ''them'' is generally a better strategy than torturing ''him''.
15th Apr '16 7:27:56 AM JackG
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* ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. Averted in "Nerve"; when a Peacekeeper base has a reactor meltdown, its commander is the first to head for a Prowler to escape (he's not the only one; Durka kills a junior officer and takes his uniform in an attempt to escape the destruction of the Zelbinion).
-->'''Chiana:''' But I thought the Commander was meant to be the last one to evacuate.
-->'''Commander Javio:''' It's funny; I believe just the opposite.
8th Feb '16 3:52:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''AlexanderTheGreat'' had an example where his men were desperately lacking drinking water after a forced march through desert. They assembled what they had, in a helmet, and gave it to their commander. Alexander dumped it out on the sand with the line, "There is not enough for everyone, and if I drink, the others will faint." This gave a huge boost to morale: "So extraordinary was the effect of this action," says Arrian, "that the water wasted by Alexander was as good as a drink for every man in the army."

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* ''AlexanderTheGreat'' UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had an example where his men were desperately lacking drinking water after a forced march through desert. They assembled what they had, in a helmet, and gave it to their commander. Alexander dumped it out on the sand with the line, "There is not enough for everyone, and if I drink, the others will faint." This gave a huge boost to morale: "So extraordinary was the effect of this action," says Arrian, "that the water wasted by Alexander was as good as a drink for every man in the army."



* Sun Tzu, in ''TheArtOfWar'' considered this trope...less than ideal. While a general certainly shouldn't [[WeHaveReserves expend his men needlessly]], being ''too'' nice with them wasn't considered a good idea either because focusing too intently on the plight of the men tends to lead to battles being lost. Cultivating the image, persona, and reputation without actually BecomingTheMask, on the other hand, is encouraged; having soldiers that are willing to die for you has its benefits.

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* Sun Tzu, in ''TheArtOfWar'' ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' considered this trope...less than ideal. While a general certainly shouldn't [[WeHaveReserves expend his men needlessly]], being ''too'' nice with them wasn't considered a good idea either because focusing too intently on the plight of the men tends to lead to battles being lost. Cultivating the image, persona, and reputation without actually BecomingTheMask, on the other hand, is encouraged; having soldiers that are willing to die for you has its benefits.
19th Dec '15 2:37:45 PM nombretomado
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* In AdrianTchaikovsky's ''[[Literature/ShadowsOfTheApt Dragonfly Falling]]'', after Salma meets some renegade Auxilliens, he deduces that one had been a sergeant, from the way he tried to protect his men.

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* In AdrianTchaikovsky's Creator/AdrianTchaikovsky's ''[[Literature/ShadowsOfTheApt Dragonfly Falling]]'', after Salma meets some renegade Auxilliens, he deduces that one had been a sergeant, from the way he tried to protect his men.
26th Nov '15 8:08:35 PM nombretomado
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* In SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.

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* In SandyMitchell's Creator/SandyMitchell's DarkHeresy novel ''Innocence Proves Nothing'', although Drake would probably be better suited to retreat last from the mutant, Horst says that he's the leader and will be the last.
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