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17th May '18 6:55:48 AM LondonKdS
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* ''ComicBook/DCComicsBombshells'' did an onion-like multilayered version of this, with practically every villain revealed to be a tool of someone else who turned out to be a tool of someone else and so on. The final BigBad who almost all the villains had been consciously serving, or manipulated by, was revealed to be, of all people, [[spoiler:Faora Hu-Ul]].
28th Apr '18 10:15:01 PM nombretomado
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%%* In ''{{Gundam 00}}'', who would've thought that Ribbons Almarck was manipulating Alejandro Corner?
%%** Which was a ShoutOut to ''ZetaGundam'' with Paptimus Scirocco playing Jamitov and Bosque for fools.

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%%* In ''{{Gundam 00}}'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who would've thought that Ribbons Almarck was manipulating Alejandro Corner?
%%** Which was a ShoutOut to ''ZetaGundam'' ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' with Paptimus Scirocco playing Jamitov and Bosque for fools.
5th Apr '18 9:19:20 AM ReddishGuy1
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* ''Franchise/SuperSentai'':
** Two thirds of the way through ''Series/JAKQDengekitai'', it's revealed that [[DiabolicalMastermind Boss Iron Claw]], the man initially thought to be the leader of CRIME, is actually TheDragon to a mysterious entity called Shine.
** In ''Series/TaiyouSentaiSunVulcan'', it's revealed in the last few episodes that the leader of Black Magma, [[BigBad Fuhrer Hell Saturn]] was receiving orders from [[BrainInAJar the Omnipotent God]], the deity of the Black Magma cult, all along. The Omnipotent God had previously popped up before in episode 5, but its influence wasn't revealed until towards the end.
** It's revealed in ''Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman'' that the leader of the Zone Empire, Galactic Empress Meadow, is actually an illusion created by [[TheDogWasTheMastermind Zone's flagship]], Vulgyre. The real Meadow whom the illusion was based was [[GoodAllAlong never evil]].
** In ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'', Lieutenant Colonel Shadam was the one responsible for the Gorma Tribe's reemergence, having remade all their members out of clay dolls. It's also revealed at the end that Shadam is himself a clay doll created by the original Shadam.
** In ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'', Exhaus is the one behind the Bowzock's ambitions to destroy the Earth, having told their leader Gynamo that he could amass good luck by blowing it up.
** ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'' reveals Captain Ryuya to be the true BigBad, having masterminded the events of the series and allowed the Londerz Family to escape to [[ItsAllAboutMe keep himself from dying]].
** In ''Series/EngineSentaiGoOnger'', it's revealed some time after [[BigBad Yogostein]]'s death that he was receiving orders from his father, Yogoshimacritein, all along.
** Brajira in ''Series/TensouSentaiGoseiger'' manages to be this to ''all three'' of the series' villain organizations, having manipulated all of them to further his own goals.
31st Mar '18 8:14:52 PM zequeins
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* Big Mom is one of the four strongest pirates in ''Manga/OnePiece'', a tyrant in the New World who, along with her children and other allies, can eliminate the armies of entire countries and get them to submit to her. She was not always like this though--she was always incredibly strong, but she was once kind-hearted. Who made her that way? It's [[spoiler:Streusen, a no-name cook]] who decided he would use her raw strength to achieve his own goals of being in control of people. [[spoiler:He met Big Mom when she was still a child and has since effortlessly manipulated her actions so that she would become the conqueror she is at the present while he stays free of suspicion as her head chef.]]

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Mom is one of the four strongest pirates in ''Manga/OnePiece'', a tyrant in the New World who, along with her children and other allies, can eliminate the armies of entire countries and get them to submit to her. She was not always like this though--she was always incredibly strong, but she was once kind-hearted. Who made her that way? It's [[spoiler:Streusen, a no-name cook]] who decided he would use her raw strength to achieve his own goals of being in control of people. [[spoiler:He met Big Mom when she was still a child and has since effortlessly manipulated her actions so that she would become the conqueror she is at the present while he stays free of suspicion as her head chef.]]]]
** Donquixote Doflamingo is a major underworld figure, supplying weapons left and right, having moles here and there, and even have enough political leverage to get the [[AristocratsAreEvil World Nobles]] to do him favors now and then. He also ate Ito Ito no Mi, allowing him to produce threads which can be used as RazorFloss and play PeoplePuppets. [[spoiler:[[VisualPun He's the man pulling the strings, figuratively and literally.]]]]
25th Mar '18 7:33:36 PM MasterN
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Sufficiently complex plots may involve [[UpToEleven The Man]] ''[[UpToEleven Behind]]'' The Man Behind The Man and so forth; the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil usually, but not always, applies in these cases.



Contrast ChessmasterSidekick and DecoyLeader. In some (unsatisfying) occasions, The Man Behind The Man may be TheManBehindTheCurtain. If there is no first man to begin with, or the first man is very obviously ''not'' the BigBad, it's a HiddenVillain. If the mastermind turns out to be an innocuous character who was quickly overlooked, then it's a case of TheDogWasTheMastermind. If the new BigBad is revealed to be subordinate to an old one, then the plot has been HijackedByGanon. Do this many times within a story (optionally mixed with the aforementioned tropes) and you have TheBigBadShuffle.

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Contrast ChessmasterSidekick and DecoyLeader. In some (unsatisfying) ([[AntiClimax unsatisfying]]) occasions, The Man Behind The Man may be TheManBehindTheCurtain. If there is no first man to begin with, or the first man is very obviously ''not'' the BigBad, it's a HiddenVillain. If the mastermind turns out to be an innocuous character who was quickly overlooked, then it's a case of TheDogWasTheMastermind. If the new BigBad Man Behind the Man is revealed to be subordinate to an old one, a previously-fought villain, then the plot has been HijackedByGanon.HijackedByGanon. Sufficiently complex plots may involve [[UpToEleven The Man]] ''[[UpToEleven Behind]]'' The Man Behind The Man and so forth; the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil usually, but not always, applies in these cases. Do this many times within a story (optionally mixed with the aforementioned tropes) and you have TheBigBadShuffle.
25th Mar '18 7:29:54 PM MasterN
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The Man has deeper motives, bigger designs, and more power than the hero(es) could ever hope to smash in one blow; they will usually have to go through another round of dungeon diving just to stand a chance. When he reveals his reasons for being evil, expect the theme of the plot to unfold quickly and dramatically.

In many genres, the Man Behind the Man often has more sinister and apocalyptic goals than his predecessor. For example, while a puppet king or greedy corporation may want to take over the world, the real BigBad may want to destroy the world, or even erase all of existence.

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The Man has deeper motives, bigger designs, and more power than the hero(es) could ever hope to smash in one blow; they will usually have to go through another round of dungeon diving just to stand a chance. When he reveals his they reveal thier reasons for being evil, expect the theme of the plot to unfold quickly and dramatically.

In many genres, the Man Behind the Man often has more sinister and apocalyptic goals than his their predecessor. For example, while a puppet king PuppetKing or greedy corporation MegaCorp may want to take over the world, TakeOverTheWorld, the real BigBad may want to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world, or even erase all of existence.
existence]].
23rd Mar '18 1:00:04 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tywin Lannister has twice served as Hand of the King: first to Aerys Targaryen and secondly to his grandson Joffrey. His reign as Hand is seen (in-verse) as a time of prosperity, despite "The Mad King". He was also the true architect of the Red Wedding, by guaranteeing the Freys protection from retribution.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
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Tywin Lannister has twice served as Hand of the King: first to Aerys Targaryen and secondly to his grandson Joffrey. His reign as Hand is seen (in-verse) as a time of prosperity, despite "The Mad King". He was also the true architect of the Red Wedding, by guaranteeing the Freys protection from retribution.retribution.
** Tyrion Lannister becomes this for Joffrey in Season 2 as his acting hand of the King and is notably somewhat of a good guy example. He then gets ousted from the position by his father, Tywin Lannister in "Blackwater" and even while he was the man behind the man to Joffrey, Tywin was the man behind the man to him. This causes the smallfolk of Kings Landing to hold him personally responsible for the city's ills even though Joffrey started the war.
20th Mar '18 7:50:33 AM Njein
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* Mr White, from ''Film/JamesBond''. He first appears as the intermediary between Le Chiffre and the African warlords in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', working on behalf of the shadowy terrorist organization Quantum. He only meets Bond once the film, when he kills Le Chiffre as punishment for his failures. Even after Bond captures him in ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'', White escapes before he can give information, and also eludes Bond at a later point. It is suggested that White is one of the more mysterious leaders of Quantum, as he manipulates both the heroes and villains to his gain, repeatedly. ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' later takes this UpToEleven by revealing that [[spoiler:Franz Oberhauser (also known as [[HijackedByGanon Ernst Stavro Blofeld]])]] and his organization SPECTRE]] were behind Mr. White, Le Chiffre and Dominic Greene all along. The film also reveals that [[spoiler:Oberhauser]] was also behind Raoul Silva's schemes in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''.

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* Mr White, from ''Film/JamesBond''. He first appears as the intermediary between Le Chiffre and the African warlords in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', working on behalf of the shadowy terrorist organization Quantum. He only meets Bond once the film, when he kills Le Chiffre as punishment for his failures. Even after Bond captures him in ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'', White escapes before he can give information, and also eludes Bond at a later point. It is suggested that White is one of the more mysterious leaders of Quantum, as he manipulates both the heroes and villains to his gain, repeatedly. ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' later takes this UpToEleven by revealing that [[spoiler:Franz Oberhauser (also known as [[HijackedByGanon Ernst Stavro Blofeld]])]] Blofeld]]) and his organization SPECTRE]] were behind Mr. White, Le Chiffre and Dominic Greene all along. The film also reveals that [[spoiler:Oberhauser]] was also behind Raoul Silva's schemes in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''.
20th Mar '18 7:50:08 AM Njein
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* Mr White, from ''Film/JamesBond''. He first appears as the intermediary between Le Chiffre and the African warlords in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', working on behalf of the shadowy terrorist organization Quantum. He only meets Bond once the film, when he kills Le Chiffre as punishment for his failures. Even after Bond captures him in ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'', White escapes before he can give information, and also eludes Bond at a later point. It is suggested that White is one of the more mysterious leaders of Quantum, as he manipulates both the heroes and villains to his gain, repeatedly. ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' reveals that Franz Oberhauser [[spoiler:[[spoiler:(also known as Blofeld)]] and his organization SPECTRE were behind Mr. White all along. The film also reveals that Oberhauser was also behind Raoul Silva's schemes in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''.

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* Mr White, from ''Film/JamesBond''. He first appears as the intermediary between Le Chiffre and the African warlords in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', working on behalf of the shadowy terrorist organization Quantum. He only meets Bond once the film, when he kills Le Chiffre as punishment for his failures. Even after Bond captures him in ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'', White escapes before he can give information, and also eludes Bond at a later point. It is suggested that White is one of the more mysterious leaders of Quantum, as he manipulates both the heroes and villains to his gain, repeatedly. ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' reveals later takes this UpToEleven by revealing that Franz [[spoiler:Franz Oberhauser [[spoiler:[[spoiler:(also (also known as Blofeld)]] [[HijackedByGanon Ernst Stavro Blofeld]])]] and his organization SPECTRE SPECTRE]] were behind Mr. White White, Le Chiffre and Dominic Greene all along. The film also reveals that Oberhauser [[spoiler:Oberhauser]] was also behind Raoul Silva's schemes in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''.
11th Mar '18 2:49:59 PM KBABZ
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** In the anime-only continuation, ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', Dr. Myuu is revealed to be a machine created by Baby, and not the other way around.

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** In the anime-only continuation, ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', the anime-only continuation, has a confusing chain of this. The Para-Para Brothers work for Cardinal Muchy Muchy, who himself is under the command of Dolltaki. Dolltaki is the leader of the worshipping Luud Cult, and Luud turns out to be a robotic sham creation of Dr. Myuu. Dr. Myuu is created Baby, the eventual BigBad of the arc, and it's eventually revealed to be a machine that Baby created by Baby, and him, not not the other way around.
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