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"What if a man from the Upper Paleolithic survived until the present day?"

''TheManFromEarth'' is a 2007 film about a group of college professors (and a grad student) sitting together in a cabin during an intimate going-away party. They contemplate the plausibility of their departing professor friend's story: witnessing thousands of years of human progress first-hand.

The professor, who calls himself John [[PunnyName Oldman]], reveals that he's secretly 14,000 years old and a former caveman. The movie revolves around the characters dissecting John's claims about him being that old, and especially [[HistoricalInJoke historical happenings]] he claims to have been at and [[BeenThereSHapedHistory people]] he claims to have met or even been. To make it all the more interesting, every character is a teacher at a certain subject that sooner or later is relevant or brought up (there's an archaeologist, a psychologist, a Christian literalist and a few more), and everyone deals with each new part of the story from John in different ways.

One of the most down-to-earth depictions of a seemingly immortal man in movie history.

The movie hit it big on [=BitTorrent=] sites in early November 2007. [[http://torrentfreak.com/producer-thanks-pirates-for-stealing-his-film-071113/ The producer squealed with glee.]] This reaction was one of the earliest admissions by a film director or film producer that "illegal" downloads can be good for getting the word out for a work.

Pretty much every trope related to perceived immortality is brought up and discussed. It's very interesting for anyone that ever thought about immortality to watch. Do note though, that the movie is dialogue and nothing else. There's only one set, a bunch of characters and their interactions. And a marvelous script.

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!!Tropes used in this work:

* ActuallyNotAVampire: When John stopped aging, his tribe began to believe he was stealing their lifeforce, thus necessitating his need to move on every ten years to avoid arousing suspicion.
* TheAgeless: John is not immune to illness, but since he survived so long and recovered from any injury (he doesn't scar) and illness, he seems to be truly ageless.
* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John "reveals" he was just making things up.]]
* BeenThereShapedHistory - John [[spoiler:is Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many historical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time.
* ContemporaryCaveman: Subverted, as he blends in perfectly, out of necessity. He knows how to use a cell phone, for example.
* ConversedTrope: The backbone of the entire movie.
* TheDrifter: John says he moves on every ten years when people start to notice that he doesn't appear to age.
* ExpositionOfImmortality: This film is essentially, entirely about this trope. It consists of an immortal character telling people all about the things he's done, seen and experienced down the ages and their reactions to it. Oldman even lampshades this with his comment about people hanging onto objects from thousands of years ago being ''"absurd."''
* TheFogOfAges: John only remembers "the ups and downs" and has forgotten most of his ancient life.
** He also mentions that he uses archaeology to try to understand aspects of his life that he's forgotten over time or to clarify why certain events he was witness to happened as they did.
* GodTest: Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test only for Gruber and Sandy, nearby. Dan's belief is unknown, but he is last shown in a contemplative mood, after an ambulance speeds past him towards the house.]]
* HeyItsThatGuy: Richard Riehle (Will Gruber) is one of the other villagers in [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Inner Light]], as well as Tom Smykowski in OfficeSpace.
** William Katt (Art) was [[TheGreatestAmericanHero Ralph Hinckley]].
** Ellen Crawford (Edith) was a nurse in {{ER}} called Lydia.
** Tony Todd (Dan) was Kurn, Worf's brother, in Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration, an adult Jake Sisko in Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine and an alpha Hirogen in Series/StarTrekVoyager.
*** It also doubles as an ActorAllusion when he says he'll go see some Trek to regain his sanity.
*** Not to mention it's a little strange/refreshing to see the Film/{{Candyman}}/[[FinalDestination the Mortician]] engaging in an intellectual exploration. And being friendly.
** John Billingsley (Harry) is Dr. Phlox in Series/StarTrekEnterprise.
** David Lee Smith (John) is [[CSIMiami Lt. Rick Stetler]].
* IHaveManyNames: John naturally varied his name throughout history. Still, it's always been something similar to John.
* ImmortalityImmorality: Discussed, and averted. [[spoiler: John was taught directly by the Buddha, who sensed something special about him, and later John brought the Buddha's teachings to Israel, where it was warped into what is now the New Testament. John reports being very disappointed with how nobody in modern times applies the main lesson.]]
* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler: John, unwittingly mentioning his 60-years-ago name in front of Gruber, who recognizes him as his father. He then confirms Gruber's mother's name and dog's name.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance: Discussed. John tells Sandy that he feels fondness and attraction to her, but he's gotten over love too many times. He could only promise 10 years, his habitual "moving on" timeframe. [[spoiler: He moved on from Gruber's mother 60 years ago, who maintained that John abandoned them.]]
* [[spoiler: NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: Averted.]]
* OmnidisciplinaryScientist: Mostly averted. In his long lifetime, John has acquired ten advanced degrees, but he points out that, like any typical person, he can't keep up with the advances in that many fields, so his old degrees don't mean very much now.
* ParentalAbandonment: Discussed by the psychologist Gruber as a possible cause of emptiness in John's life. [[spoiler: The end of the movie reveals that John abandoned him and his mother.]]
* PunnyName: John ''Oldman''.
* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]]: John never aged beyond 35 or so.
* SeenItAll: In a limited sense. Being in only one place at any given time and having to keep a small identity means John couldn't meet too many historical figures. But he did meet Van Gogh, Beethoven, Columbus, the Buddha, and some others, and lived through the Black Plague.
* ShoutOut: The whole film strongly resembles the conversation from H. G. Wells' ''TheTimeMachine''. It's quite fitting.
** And when Harry suggests John take lab tests:
--->'''John:''' I'm leery of labs. Afraid I might go in and stay for a thousand years while [[{{TheX-Files}} cigarette-smoking men]] try to figure me out.
* SpeechCentricWork
* ThereIsAnother: John thinks that there have might have been another person who was immortal. He connected with him for a while in the 17th Century, and might have seen him out of the corner of his eye in a train station a couple of hundred years later.
* TimeDissonance: John describes the meeting of people as like ripples in a wheat field blown by the wind.
* UndeadTaxExemption: Averted. When villages and city-states emerged, moving around became more difficult. He spent a year incarcerated in Belgium for forging government documents.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Subverted. John gets bored on occasion, but seems content with life.
* UnreliableNarrator: John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when he's pushed into revealing it was a hoax. In the end though, John's story is confirmed.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith: [[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as a miracle man, born of a virgin, the son of God. Various legends were falsely attributed to him, as was the tendency of the time.]]
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"What if a man from the Upper Paleolithic survived until the present day?"

''TheManFromEarth'' is a 2007 film about a group of college professors (and a grad student) sitting together in a cabin during an intimate going-away party. They contemplate the plausibility of their departing professor friend's story: witnessing thousands of years of human progress first-hand.

The professor, who calls himself John [[PunnyName Oldman]], reveals that he's secretly 14,000 years old and a former caveman. The movie revolves around the characters dissecting John's claims about him being that old, and especially [[HistoricalInJoke historical happenings]] he claims to have been at and [[BeenThereSHapedHistory people]] he claims to have met or even been. To make it all the more interesting, every character is a teacher at a certain subject that sooner or later is relevant or brought up (there's an archaeologist, a psychologist, a Christian literalist and a few more), and everyone deals with each new part of the story from John in different ways.

One of the most down-to-earth depictions of a seemingly immortal man in movie history.

The movie hit it big on [=BitTorrent=] sites in early November 2007. [[http://torrentfreak.com/producer-thanks-pirates-for-stealing-his-film-071113/ The producer squealed with glee.]] This reaction was one of the earliest admissions by a film director or film producer that "illegal" downloads can be good for getting the word out for a work.

Pretty much every trope related to perceived immortality is brought up and discussed. It's very interesting for anyone that ever thought about immortality to watch. Do note though, that the movie is dialogue and nothing else. There's only one set, a bunch of characters and their interactions. And a marvelous script.

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!!Tropes used in this work:

* ActuallyNotAVampire: When John stopped aging, his tribe began to believe he was stealing their lifeforce, thus necessitating his need to move on every ten years to avoid arousing suspicion.
* TheAgeless: John is not immune to illness, but since he survived so long and recovered from any injury (he doesn't scar) and illness, he seems to be truly ageless.
* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John "reveals" he was just making things up.]]
* BeenThereShapedHistory - John [[spoiler:is Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many historical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time.
* ContemporaryCaveman: Subverted, as he blends in perfectly, out of necessity. He knows how to use a cell phone, for example.
* ConversedTrope: The backbone of the entire movie.
* TheDrifter: John says he moves on every ten years when people start to notice that he doesn't appear to age.
* ExpositionOfImmortality: This film is essentially, entirely about this trope. It consists of an immortal character telling people all about the things he's done, seen and experienced down the ages and their reactions to it. Oldman even lampshades this with his comment about people hanging onto objects from thousands of years ago being ''"absurd."''
* TheFogOfAges: John only remembers "the ups and downs" and has forgotten most of his ancient life.
** He also mentions that he uses archaeology to try to understand aspects of his life that he's forgotten over time or to clarify why certain events he was witness to happened as they did.
* GodTest: Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test only for Gruber and Sandy, nearby. Dan's belief is unknown, but he is last shown in a contemplative mood, after an ambulance speeds past him towards the house.]]
* HeyItsThatGuy: Richard Riehle (Will Gruber) is one of the other villagers in [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Inner Light]], as well as Tom Smykowski in OfficeSpace.
** William Katt (Art) was [[TheGreatestAmericanHero Ralph Hinckley]].
** Ellen Crawford (Edith) was a nurse in {{ER}} called Lydia.
** Tony Todd (Dan) was Kurn, Worf's brother, in Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration, an adult Jake Sisko in Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine and an alpha Hirogen in Series/StarTrekVoyager.
*** It also doubles as an ActorAllusion when he says he'll go see some Trek to regain his sanity.
*** Not to mention it's a little strange/refreshing to see the Film/{{Candyman}}/[[FinalDestination the Mortician]] engaging in an intellectual exploration. And being friendly.
** John Billingsley (Harry) is Dr. Phlox in Series/StarTrekEnterprise.
** David Lee Smith (John) is [[CSIMiami Lt. Rick Stetler]].
* IHaveManyNames: John naturally varied his name throughout history. Still, it's always been something similar to John.
* ImmortalityImmorality: Discussed, and averted. [[spoiler: John was taught directly by the Buddha, who sensed something special about him, and later John brought the Buddha's teachings to Israel, where it was warped into what is now the New Testament. John reports being very disappointed with how nobody in modern times applies the main lesson.]]
* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler: John, unwittingly mentioning his 60-years-ago name in front of Gruber, who recognizes him as his father. He then confirms Gruber's mother's name and dog's name.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance: Discussed. John tells Sandy that he feels fondness and attraction to her, but he's gotten over love too many times. He could only promise 10 years, his habitual "moving on" timeframe. [[spoiler: He moved on from Gruber's mother 60 years ago, who maintained that John abandoned them.]]
* [[spoiler: NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: Averted.]]
* OmnidisciplinaryScientist: Mostly averted. In his long lifetime, John has acquired ten advanced degrees, but he points out that, like any typical person, he can't keep up with the advances in that many fields, so his old degrees don't mean very much now.
* ParentalAbandonment: Discussed by the psychologist Gruber as a possible cause of emptiness in John's life. [[spoiler: The end of the movie reveals that John abandoned him and his mother.]]
* PunnyName: John ''Oldman''.
* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]]: John never aged beyond 35 or so.
* SeenItAll: In a limited sense. Being in only one place at any given time and having to keep a small identity means John couldn't meet too many historical figures. But he did meet Van Gogh, Beethoven, Columbus, the Buddha, and some others, and lived through the Black Plague.
* ShoutOut: The whole film strongly resembles the conversation from H. G. Wells' ''TheTimeMachine''. It's quite fitting.
** And when Harry suggests John take lab tests:
--->'''John:''' I'm leery of labs. Afraid I might go in and stay for a thousand years while [[{{TheX-Files}} cigarette-smoking men]] try to figure me out.
* SpeechCentricWork
* ThereIsAnother: John thinks that there have might have been another person who was immortal. He connected with him for a while in the 17th Century, and might have seen him out of the corner of his eye in a train station a couple of hundred years later.
* TimeDissonance: John describes the meeting of people as like ripples in a wheat field blown by the wind.
* UndeadTaxExemption: Averted. When villages and city-states emerged, moving around became more difficult. He spent a year incarcerated in Belgium for forging government documents.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Subverted. John gets bored on occasion, but seems content with life.
* UnreliableNarrator: John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when he's pushed into revealing it was a hoax. In the end though, John's story is confirmed.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith: [[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as a miracle man, born of a virgin, the son of God. Various legends were falsely attributed to him, as was the tendency of the time.]]
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19th May '13 7:08:14 AM Dracosolon
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* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John reveals he was just making things up.]]

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* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John reveals "reveals" he was just making things up.]]
9th May '13 10:46:32 PM Grif
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Pretty much every trope related to percieved immortality is brought up and discussed. It's very interesting for anyone that ever thought about immortality to watch. Do note though, that the movie is dialogue and nothing else. There's only one set, a bunch of characters and their interactions. And a marvelous script.

to:

Pretty much every trope related to percieved perceived immortality is brought up and discussed. It's very interesting for anyone that ever thought about immortality to watch. Do note though, that the movie is dialogue and nothing else. There's only one set, a bunch of characters and their interactions. And a marvelous script.



* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John pretend he was just making things up.]]
* BeenThereShapedHistory - John is [[spoiler:Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many histoical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time, and he can't afford to attract too much attention to himself.
* ContemporaryCaveman
* ConversedTrope: The backbone of the entire movie.

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* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John pretend reveals he was just making things up.]]
* BeenThereShapedHistory - John is [[spoiler:Jesus, [[spoiler:is Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many histoical historical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time, and time.
* ContemporaryCaveman: Subverted, as
he can't afford blends in perfectly, out of necessity. He knows how to attract too much attention to himself.
* ContemporaryCaveman
use a cell phone, for example.
* ConversedTrope: The backbone of the entire movie.



* GodTest: Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test for nobody in particular.]]

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* GodTest: Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test only for nobody Gruber and Sandy, nearby. Dan's belief is unknown, but he is last shown in particular.a contemplative mood, after an ambulance speeds past him towards the house.]]



* ImmortalityImmorality: Point 2 is discussed much within the movie.
** Also averted big time with John, [[spoiler: already thousands of years old at the time, being incredibly inspired by the Buddha, eventually bringing his teachings, philosophies and ethics to Israel centuries later, and continuing to revere him in the present day.]]
* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:In the end what confirms that John wasn't lying when he claims he doesn't age was Gruber (who appears much older than John) realizing John is his father. The shock ends up giving Gruber a heart attack and he dies shortly after.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance: The relationship between Sandy, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women John has loved and ultimately had to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will Gruber's mother, making John his father]].
* NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: [[spoiler: Averted.]]

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* ImmortalityImmorality: Point 2 is discussed much within the movie.
** Also averted big time with John,
Discussed, and averted. [[spoiler: already thousands of years old at the time, being incredibly inspired John was taught directly by the Buddha, eventually bringing his teachings, philosophies who sensed something special about him, and ethics to Israel centuries later, and continuing to revere him in later John brought the present day.]]
* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:In the end
Buddha's teachings to Israel, where it was warped into what confirms that is now the New Testament. John wasn't lying when he claims he doesn't age was Gruber (who appears much older than John) realizing John is his father. The shock ends up giving Gruber a heart attack and he dies shortly after.reports being very disappointed with how nobody in modern times applies the main lesson.]]
* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler: John, unwittingly mentioning his 60-years-ago name in front of Gruber, who recognizes him as his father. He then confirms Gruber's mother's name and dog's name.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance: The relationship between Sandy, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women Discussed. John has loved tells Sandy that he feels fondness and ultimately had attraction to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will her, but he's gotten over love too many times. He could only promise 10 years, his habitual "moving on" timeframe. [[spoiler: He moved on from Gruber's mother, making mother 60 years ago, who maintained that John his father]].
abandoned them.]]
* [[spoiler: NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: [[spoiler: Averted.]]



* [[spoiler: PunnyName: John ''Oldman'']]
* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]]: John looks 35, but is actually a good bit above just seven hundred.
* ShoutOut: The whole film strongly resembles the conversation from H. G. Wells' ''TheTimeMachine''. It's quite fitting.

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* ParentalAbandonment: Discussed by the psychologist Gruber as a possible cause of emptiness in John's life. [[spoiler: The end of the movie reveals that John abandoned him and his mother.]]
*
PunnyName: John ''Oldman'']]
''Oldman''.
* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]]: John looks 35, but is actually never aged beyond 35 or so.
* SeenItAll: In
a good bit above just seven hundred.
limited sense. Being in only one place at any given time and having to keep a small identity means John couldn't meet too many historical figures. But he did meet Van Gogh, Beethoven, Columbus, the Buddha, and some others, and lived through the Black Plague.
* ShoutOut: The whole film strongly resembles the conversation from H. G. Wells' ''TheTimeMachine''. It's quite fitting.



--->I'm leery of labs. Afraid I might go in and stay for a thousand years while [[{{TheX-Files}} cigarette-smoking men]] try to figure me out.

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--->I'm --->'''John:''' I'm leery of labs. Afraid I might go in and stay for a thousand years while [[{{TheX-Files}} cigarette-smoking men]] try to figure me out.



* TimeAbyss: 14,000 years is a really long time.
* TimeDissonance: Averted: The discussion is brought up, but John waves it away.
* UndeadTaxExemption: Averted: It becomes increasingly difficult for John to move around and not be caught. He even spent a year in jail for forging government records.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Subverted: John is [[LivingForeverIsAwesome quite satisfied with being really old]].
* UnreliableNarrator: John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when John drops the J-Bomb. But by the end, the movie goes out of its way to confirm John's story.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith: [[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as Jesus Christ, it was just a misunderstanding]].

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* TimeAbyss: 14,000 years is a really long time.
* TimeDissonance: Averted: The discussion is brought up, but John waves it away.
describes the meeting of people as like ripples in a wheat field blown by the wind.
* UndeadTaxExemption: Averted: It becomes increasingly difficult for John to move Averted. When villages and city-states emerged, moving around and not be caught. became more difficult. He even spent a year incarcerated in jail Belgium for forging government records.
documents.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Subverted: Subverted. John is [[LivingForeverIsAwesome quite satisfied gets bored on occasion, but seems content with being really old]].
life.
* UnreliableNarrator: John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when John drops he's pushed into revealing it was a hoax. In the J-Bomb. But by the end, the movie goes out of its way to confirm end though, John's story.story is confirmed.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith: [[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as Jesus Christ, it a miracle man, born of a virgin, the son of God. Various legends were falsely attributed to him, as was just a misunderstanding]]. the tendency of the time.]]
29th Apr '13 7:18:41 AM Dracosolon
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* AgentMulder: Dan, the anthropologist, is the first one of the professors ready to accept John's story, mostly because there's no way to prove nor disprove it and he's all ready for a thought experiment. Later, he grows even more enthusiastic. [[spoiler:Needless to say, he's pretty pissed off when John pretend he was just making things up.]]
28th Mar '13 5:48:18 AM foxfireman
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* TheDrifter: John says he moves on every ten years when people start to notice that he doesn't appear to age.
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* [[spoiler: PunnyName: John ''Oldman'']]
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* MayflyDecemberRomance: The relationship between Sandra, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women John has loved and ultimately had to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will Gruber's mother, making John his father]].

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* MayflyDecemberRomance: The relationship between Sandra, Sandy, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women John has loved and ultimately had to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will Gruber's mother, making John his father]].
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* NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: [[spoiler: averted.]]

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* NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: [[spoiler: averted.Averted.]]
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* ConversedTrope - The backbone of the entire movie.

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* ConversedTrope - ConversedTrope: The backbone of the entire movie.



* TheFogOfAges - John only remembers "the ups and downs" and has forgotten most of his ancient life.

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* TheFogOfAges - TheFogOfAges: John only remembers "the ups and downs" and has forgotten most of his ancient life.



* GodTest - Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test for nobody in particular.]]
* HeyItsThatGuy - Richard Riehle (Will Gruber) is one of the other villagers in [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Inner Light]], as well as Tom Smykowski in OfficeSpace.

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* GodTest - GodTest: Most of the story is built upon his friends' attempts to give him one of these, which he explains that he cannot (or simply will not) do. Then he tells them that the whole story was only a story, and they go on their ways. [[spoiler:He accidentally reveals himself to be Gruber's father at the end, thereby completing the God Test for nobody in particular.]]
* HeyItsThatGuy - HeyItsThatGuy: Richard Riehle (Will Gruber) is one of the other villagers in [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Inner Light]], as well as Tom Smykowski in OfficeSpace.



* IHaveManyNames - John naturally varied his name throughout history. Still, it's always been something similar to John.
* ImmortalityImmorality - Point 2 is discussed much within the movie.

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* IHaveManyNames - IHaveManyNames: John naturally varied his name throughout history. Still, it's always been something similar to John.
* ImmortalityImmorality - ImmortalityImmorality: Point 2 is discussed much within the movie.



* LukeIAmYourFather - [[spoiler:In the end what confirms that John wasn't lying when he claims he doesn't age was Gruber (who appears much older than John) realizing John is his father. The shock ends up giving Gruber a heart attack and he dies shortly after.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance - The relationship between Sandra, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women John has loved and ultimately had to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will Gruber's mother, making John his father]].
* NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus [[spoiler: - averted.]]

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* LukeIAmYourFather - LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:In the end what confirms that John wasn't lying when he claims he doesn't age was Gruber (who appears much older than John) realizing John is his father. The shock ends up giving Gruber a heart attack and he dies shortly after.]]
* MayflyDecemberRomance - MayflyDecemberRomance: The relationship between Sandra, who appears to be in her 30's, and 14,000 year old John. This trope is explored fairly extensively, with references to various women John has loved and ultimately had to abandon - [[spoiler:one of whom turns out to be Will Gruber's mother, making John his father]].
* NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus: [[spoiler: - averted.]]



* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]] - John looks 35, but is actually a good bit above just seven hundred.

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* [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Fourteen Thousand Years Old]] - Old]]: John looks 35, but is actually a good bit above just seven hundred.



* ThereIsAnother - John thinks that there have might have been another person who was immortal. He connected with him for a while in the 17th Century, and might have seen him out of the corner of his eye in a train station a couple of hundred years later.
* TimeAbyss - 14,000 years is a really long time.
* TimeDissonance - Averted: The discussion is brought up, but John waves it away.
* UndeadTaxExemption - Averted: It becomes increasingly difficult for John to move around and not be caught. He even spent a year in jail for forging government records.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever - Subverted: John is [[LivingForeverIsAwesome quite satisfied with being really old]].
* UnreliableNarrator - John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when John drops the J-Bomb. But by the end, the movie goes out of its way to confirm John's story.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith-[[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as Jesus Christ, it was just a misunderstanding]].

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* ThereIsAnother - ThereIsAnother: John thinks that there have might have been another person who was immortal. He connected with him for a while in the 17th Century, and might have seen him out of the corner of his eye in a train station a couple of hundred years later.
* TimeAbyss - TimeAbyss: 14,000 years is a really long time.
* TimeDissonance - TimeDissonance: Averted: The discussion is brought up, but John waves it away.
* UndeadTaxExemption - UndeadTaxExemption: Averted: It becomes increasingly difficult for John to move around and not be caught. He even spent a year in jail for forging government records.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever - WhoWantsToLiveForever: Subverted: John is [[LivingForeverIsAwesome quite satisfied with being really old]].
* UnreliableNarrator - UnreliableNarrator: John starts out with the disclaimer that he is just pitching this for a science fiction novel. [[spoiler: The group slowly learns to trust him, then all suspension of disbelief is shattered when John drops the J-Bomb. But by the end, the movie goes out of its way to confirm John's story.]]
* UnwantedFalseFaith-[[spoiler: UnwantedFalseFaith: [[spoiler: John didn't intend to be seen as Jesus Christ, it was just a misunderstanding]].
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The professor, who calls himself John [[PunnyName Oldman]], reveals that he's secretly 14,000 years old and a former caveman. The movie revolves around the characters dissecting John's claims about him being that old, and especially [[HistoricalInJoke historical happenings]] he claims to have been at and [[TheGump people]] he claims to have met or even been. To make it all the more interesting, every character is a teacher at a certain subject that sooner or later is relevant or brought up (there's an archaeologist, a psychologist, a Christian literalist and a few more), and everyone deals with each new part of the story from John in different ways.

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The professor, who calls himself John [[PunnyName Oldman]], reveals that he's secretly 14,000 years old and a former caveman. The movie revolves around the characters dissecting John's claims about him being that old, and especially [[HistoricalInJoke historical happenings]] he claims to have been at and [[TheGump [[BeenThereSHapedHistory people]] he claims to have met or even been. To make it all the more interesting, every character is a teacher at a certain subject that sooner or later is relevant or brought up (there's an archaeologist, a psychologist, a Christian literalist and a few more), and everyone deals with each new part of the story from John in different ways.



* BeenThereShapedHistory - John is [[spoiler:Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many histoical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time, and he can't afford to attract too much attention to himself.



* TheGump - John is [[spoiler:Jesus, even though it's all pretty much a big misunderstanding]].
** He also met Van Gogh and Buddha. But John also mentions that aside from those, it'd be incredibly difficult for him to know many histoical people, as he is just one man in one place at any given time, and he can't afford to attract too much attention to himself.
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