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13th Oct '17 11:47:21 AM MegaMarioMan
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* ''Fanfic/ClashOfTheElements'': Part 2 reveals that [[MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Cackletta is responsible for pretty much all the villainous threats to Plit beforehand, up to and including Joe Dark and Tabuu.]]

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* ''Fanfic/ClashOfTheElements'': Part 2 reveals that [[MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Cackletta is responsible for pretty much all the villainous threats to Plit beforehand, up to and including Joe Dark and Tabuu.]]
12th Oct '17 8:56:57 PM nmn3r3
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** ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'': Shadow Labrys may have caused the [[TournamentArc P1 Grand Prix]], but the unknown human referred to as Eerie Voice was the one who stole her and threw her into the TV. In turn, Eerie Voice is being influenced by the similarly obfuscated Malevolent Entity. Malevolent Entity even implies it was The Man Behind The Man in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' and ''Persona 4''. Adding to this the implication that the Malevolent Entity is actually Nyarlathotep, the ''Persona'' series will get him as the ultimate villain responsible for absolutely everything.

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** ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'': Shadow Labrys may have caused the [[TournamentArc P1 Grand Prix]], but the unknown human Sho Minazuki, then referred to as Eerie Voice Voice, was the one who stole her and threw her into the TV. In turn, Eerie Voice Sho is being influenced by the similarly obfuscated Malevolent Entity. Malevolent Entity even implies it Entity, Hino-Kagutsuchi. Their goal was The Man Behind The Man in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' and ''Persona 4''. Adding to this the implication prove that the Malevolent Entity is actually Nyarlathotep, bonds of the ''Persona'' series will get him as P4 and P3 casts were meaningless, and set up the ultimate villain responsible for absolutely everything.fighting tournament to make them turn against each other.
3rd Oct '17 10:44:45 AM lillolillo
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* In ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' fanfic ''Fanfic/AForceOfFour'', it's revealed that [[spoiler:[[WarGod Mars]]]] is the man behind [[TheDragon Badra]].
2nd Oct '17 10:46:47 AM GottaHaveFaith
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* When former BigBad Slade comes BackFromTheDead on ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', it soon becomes apparent that someone or something is pulling his strings this time around, confirmed at the end of the episode "Birthmark" when he is shown kneeling to an unseen figure and calling it "master". It turns out to be [[DarkMagicalGirl Raven's demonic father]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Trigon the Terrible]].
* A non-villainous version in ''WesternAnimation/SWATKats'': It's pretty obvious that Deputy Mayor Callie Briggs is the one who really runs Megakat City, which is a good thing considering how incredibly incompetent Mayor Manx is.
* In the first season of ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', Magneto is this to Mystique, who is in turn the Man Behind the Man to the Brotherhood as far as the X-Men are concerned (though both the viewer and Xavier knew about her from the start, and the viewer knew Magneto was meddling from the end of the first episode). Later on, Apocalypse is the man behind Mesmero.
* Sslither to Metlar in ''WesternAnimation/{{Inhumanoids}}''.


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* Sslither to Metlar in ''WesternAnimation/{{Inhumanoids}}''.


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* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', the [[TheIlluminati Shadow Council of Ricks]] turns out to have been this for the original Council of Ricks that [[spoiler:Rick C-137 ("our" Rick) killed earlier in the season]]. They plan to be this for the newly elected [[spoiler:President Morty]] as well, but unfortunately for them, [[spoiler: President Morty--a.k.a. Evil Morty--has other plans, and [[BoardToDeath has most of them killed]] and [[ThrownOutTheAirlock their bodies blown out into space]]]].


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* A non-villainous version in ''WesternAnimation/SWATKats'': It's pretty obvious that Deputy Mayor Callie Briggs is the one who really runs Megakat City, which is a good thing considering how incredibly incompetent Mayor Manx is.
* When former BigBad Slade comes BackFromTheDead on ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', it soon becomes apparent that someone or something is pulling his strings this time around, confirmed at the end of the episode "Birthmark" when he is shown kneeling to an unseen figure and calling it "master". It turns out to be [[DarkMagicalGirl Raven's demonic father]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Trigon the Terrible]].
* In the first season of ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', Magneto is this to Mystique, who is in turn the Man Behind the Man to the Brotherhood as far as the X-Men are concerned (though both the viewer and Xavier knew about her from the start, and the viewer knew Magneto was meddling from the end of the first episode). Later on, Apocalypse is the man behind Mesmero.
1st Oct '17 7:15:28 AM Gaby007
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* ''Fanfic/AManOfIron'' lampshades how much Tywin Lannister enjoys being "the power behind the throne", with Syrio Forel reminding Arya that Lord Tywin basically ruled Westeros for Aerys Targaryen and ''still'' rules the Seven Kingdoms in Robert Baratheon's stead. A peek in his mind also reveals he would be quite happy to prop a compliant Stark as Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North, already making plans involving the Stark offshot in Iron Pointe for the eventuality of the main family line having a ''mishap''.
26th Sep '17 9:32:08 AM fractured
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*[[Anime/TheBraveExpressMightGaine Might Gaine]]: The series setups up Exeve as the [[BigBad big bad]], being the catalyst of the events to start the brave express but it's eventually revealed he was just a puppet used by Black Noir. [[UpToEleven It's even implied that there was a higher power behind Black Noir's actions.]]
25th Aug '17 9:38:45 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''[[Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the local crime boss Maven Black-Briar is effectively in charge of the city of Riften. Between using the ThievesGuild for coercion, having contacts within the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]] for assassination, being personal friends with the local Jarl/Governor (which appears to be an actual friendship; one Maven exploits without a second thought, but an actual friendship nonetheless), and running a very profitable meadery (which, much like her friendship, seems to be quite legitimate). Maven has no problem burning down the competition (she'll make an offer before doing that and Black-Briar mead seems quite popular through Skyrim regardless). She so effectively controls the city that when she becomes Jarl (if you support the Empire in the {{Civil War}} questline) its treated like little more than a formal acknowledgement of her position.

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** In ''[[Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the Skyrim]]'':
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local crime boss Maven Black-Briar is effectively in charge of the city of Riften. Between using the ThievesGuild for coercion, having contacts within the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]] for assassination, being personal friends with the local Jarl/Governor (which appears to be an actual friendship; one Maven exploits without a second thought, but an actual friendship nonetheless), and running a very profitable meadery (which, much like her friendship, seems to be quite legitimate). Maven has no problem burning down the competition (she'll make an offer before doing that and Black-Briar mead seems quite popular through Skyrim regardless). She so effectively controls the city that when she becomes Jarl (if you support the Empire in the {{Civil War}} questline) its treated like little more than a formal acknowledgement of her position.position.
*** Molag Bal, Daedric Prince of [[TheCorrupter Domination and Corruption]] and MonsterProgenitor of vampires, serves as both this and a GreaterScopeVillain for the ''Dawnguard'' DLC. It was he who turned [[BigBad Lord Harkon]] into a pureblood vampire along with the rest of his family, thus giving rise to the Volkihar Clan in the first place. Being the progenitor of all vampires, it also makes him indirectly responsible for [[spoiler:Arch-Curate Vyrthur's]] corruption, which results in him creating the Prophecy of the Tyranny of the Sun which sets the plot of ''Dawnguard'' into motion. Essentially, he is the GreaterScopeVillain ''behind'' the Man Behind The Man.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline Online]]'', Molag Bal once again serves as this, this time to [[DragonWithAnAgenda Mannimarco]], though you're aware of it from the start.
24th Aug '17 7:54:49 AM RedScharlach
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** In [[{{Filler}} the Shusuke Amagai arc]], it's pressumed that Kumoi wants to kill Lurichiyo and control the Kasumioji clan, but then when the confrontation comes, Komoi, Amagai appears out of nowhere, kills him, kidnaps Lurichiyo, and then proceeds to let everyone know his plans to kill Yamamoto, and he used Kumoi and the entire Kasumioji clan to get his hands on a weapon that [[PowerNullifier somehow disables all but his zanpaktou so he could kill Yamamoto with it]].

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** In [[{{Filler}} the Shusuke Amagai arc]], it's pressumed presumed that Kumoi wants to kill Lurichiyo and control the Kasumioji clan, but then when the confrontation comes, Komoi, Amagai appears out of nowhere, kills him, kidnaps Lurichiyo, and then proceeds to let everyone know his plans to kill Yamamoto, and he used Kumoi and the entire Kasumioji clan to get his hands on a weapon that [[PowerNullifier somehow disables all but his zanpaktou so he could kill Yamamoto with it]].



* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' exaggerates this trope to absurd extremes, it's first revealed that [[StandardEvilOrganizationSquad Akatsuki]] is lead by a mysterious figure known as [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pain]]. Some chapters and an important character death later, we find out that "Pain" is actually a [[PeoplePuppets collection of dead bodies controlled]] by a man named Nagato, who [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil once studied under the same sensei]] as Naruto. Then Nagato is actually being manipulated by a masked man known by the alias "Tobi" who claims to actually be the [[TheDreaded legendary shinobi known as Madara Uchiha]]. Later on, Tobi [[DeadPersonImpersonation isn't the real Madara Uchiha, but is actually a former leaf shinobi named Obito who used to be a student of Naruto's father and later turned evil.]] Then, it turns out Obito's [[AssimilationPlot "Moon's Eye Plan"]] was actually the real Madara's plan, and Obito was also supposed to bring Madara back to life to he become the jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails. [[GambitPileup But later we learn that Obito never had any intention of reviving Madara and himself using him in order to become the jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails]]. But then, turn out they both was being manipulated the entire time by Black Zetsu, a mysterious member of Akatsuki and a being that Madara thought he himself had created to carry out his will. And Black Zetsu? He's actually carrying out the will of Princess Kaguya, an ancient [[PhysicalGod Physical Goddess]] whom the current shinobi clans are descended from and who created Black Zetsu centuries ago right before she was [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]] to ensure that she would be revived. And ''then'' [[OverlyLongGag okay, just kidding.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' exaggerates this trope to absurd extremes, it's extremes. It's first revealed that [[StandardEvilOrganizationSquad Akatsuki]] is lead by a mysterious figure known as [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pain]]. Some chapters and an important character death later, we find out that "Pain" is actually a [[PeoplePuppets collection of dead bodies controlled]] by a man named Nagato, who [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil once studied under the same sensei]] as Naruto. Then Nagato is actually being manipulated by a masked man known by the alias "Tobi" who claims to actually be the [[TheDreaded legendary shinobi known as Madara Uchiha]]. Later on, Tobi [[DeadPersonImpersonation isn't the real Madara Uchiha, but is actually a former leaf shinobi named Obito who used to be a student of Naruto's father and later turned evil.]] Then, it turns out Obito's [[AssimilationPlot "Moon's Eye Plan"]] was actually the real Madara's plan, and Obito was also supposed to bring Madara back to life to he become the jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails. [[GambitPileup But later we learn that Obito never had any intention of reviving Madara and himself using him in order to become the jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails]]. But then, turn out they both was being manipulated the entire time by Black Zetsu, a mysterious member of Akatsuki and a being that Madara thought he himself had created to carry out his will. And Black Zetsu? He's actually carrying out the will of Princess Kaguya, an ancient [[PhysicalGod Physical Goddess]] whom the current shinobi clans are descended from and who created Black Zetsu centuries ago right before she was [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]] to ensure that she would be revived. And ''then'' [[OverlyLongGag okay, just kidding.]]



* This is implied near the end of ''Manga/FruitsBasket'', after Akito's HeelFaceTurn, the 'man' in question being the Sohma family elders, who criticize Akito for not emotionally destroying the members of the Zodiac..

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* This is implied near the end of ''Manga/FruitsBasket'', after Akito's HeelFaceTurn, the 'man' in question being the Sohma family elders, who criticize Akito for not emotionally destroying the members of the Zodiac..Zodiac.



* ''Film/TheGodfather'' movies constantly employs this trope. Don Barzini is the man behind Solozzo and Tatagglia. Hyman Roth is the man behind the Rosato brothers. Dons Altobello and Lucchesi are the men behind Joey Zasa.

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* ''Film/TheGodfather'' movies constantly employs employ this trope. Don Barzini is the man behind Solozzo and Tatagglia. Hyman Roth is the man behind the Rosato brothers. Dons Altobello and Lucchesi are the men behind Joey Zasa.



* It's already known from the beginning that Tarkan in ''Literature/{{Phenomena}}'' is the one causing the mortok chieftain to be so hateful and keeping the elves as his slaves. It's not known however that the power hungry king from a land in the north is controlling him again until later...

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* It's already known from the beginning that Tarkan in ''Literature/{{Phenomena}}'' is the one causing the mortok Mortok chieftain to be so hateful and keeping the elves as his slaves. It's not known however that the power hungry power-hungry king from a land in the north is controlling him again until later...



* In the ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series, the Warlock Lord is the BigBad of the first book (''The Sword of Shannara'') and its prequel (''First King of Shannara''), and is considered to have been the Biggest individual Bad in the setting's history. In ''The Wishsong of Shannara'', some of his former minions learn sorcery themselves and turn into creatures called Mord Wraiths, who are collectively the new BigBad. Except that's not how it works. The Warlock Lord was actually in the thrall of the Ildatch, an ancient, intelligent tome of BlackMagic that ''wants'' people to use it, and will latch onto anyone with enough magical talent to make use of its spells, only to abandon them when they're defeated and/or someone better comes along. The Warlock Lord had it, and the Mord Wraiths took it after he died, and in both cases those who used the book became little more than husks that existed solely to use its powers. It's implied that the Ildatch has been doing this for ''milennia''. Finally, when ''Wishsong's'' heroine Brin Ohmsford arrived to destroy it and the Mord Wraiths, it latched onto her and tried to turn her into a DarkMessiah, which would have worked if her brother hadn't snapped her out of it, at which point Brin used her magic to burn the Ildatch to ash. Good riddance.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series, the Warlock Lord is the BigBad of the first book (''The Sword of Shannara'') and its prequel (''First King of Shannara''), and is considered to have been the Biggest individual Bad in the setting's history. In ''The Wishsong of Shannara'', some of his former minions learn sorcery themselves and turn into creatures called Mord Wraiths, who are collectively the new BigBad. Except that's not how it works. The Warlock Lord was actually in the thrall of the Ildatch, an ancient, intelligent tome of BlackMagic that ''wants'' people to use it, and will latch onto anyone with enough magical talent to make use of its spells, only to abandon them when they're defeated and/or someone better comes along. The Warlock Lord had it, and the Mord Wraiths took it after he died, and in both cases those who used the book became little more than husks that existed solely to use its powers. It's implied that the Ildatch has been doing this for ''milennia''.''millennia''. Finally, when ''Wishsong's'' heroine Brin Ohmsford arrived to destroy it and the Mord Wraiths, it latched onto her and tried to turn her into a DarkMessiah, which would have worked if her brother hadn't snapped her out of it, at which point Brin used her magic to burn the Ildatch to ash. Good riddance.



** The races that formed the [[LegionOfDoom Alliance]] in "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" were apparently manipulated by the Silents, who wouldn't even appear till next series.
** In Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine in "The Glorious Dead" it is revealed Cardinal Morningstar is Sato Katsura and he is working for the Master.

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** The races that formed the [[LegionOfDoom Alliance]] in "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" were apparently manipulated by the Silents, Silence, who wouldn't even appear till next series.
the following season.
** In Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine, in "The Glorious Dead" it is revealed Cardinal Morningstar is Sato Katsura and he is working for the Master.



* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': While it was not exactly a secret, Weyoun served as this with Damar in the last two seasons of . While Damar became the Leader of Cardassia after Dukat's capture, he served as nothing more than a puppet for Weyoun. Also from [= DS9 =], Quark's mother Ishka becomes this for Grand Nagus Zek.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': While it was not exactly a secret, Weyoun served as this with Damar in the last two seasons of . seasons. While Damar became the Leader leader of Cardassia after Dukat's capture, he served as nothing was little more than a puppet for Weyoun. Also from [= DS9 =], [=DS9=], Quark's mother Ishka becomes this for Grand Nagus Zek.



* HumongousMecha MassiveMultiplayerCrossover ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha'' had as it's BigBad an OriginalGeneration character named Euzeth Gozzo. At the end of ''Alpha'', there's an extended sequence where Euzeth explains how was behind everything (and keep in mind that he's an OriginalGeneration character in a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover). A couple of times a character asks Euzeth if he was behind something that happened in their series, and he goes "That was me as well!"[[note]]"''"Sore mo watashi da"'' in Japanese[[/note]] This phrase and the character himself quickly went [[Memes/VideoGames memetic]] among the Japanese fanbase. Years later, the makers of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' created a series called ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'', starring all the OriginalGeneration characters from other ''Super Robot Wars'' games. In ''2nd Super Robot Wars Original Generations''. Euzeth Gozzo appears again and at this point he's fully an AscendedMeme. He makes ''another'' long speech about how he was behind everything in the ''Original Generation'' setting and he says "It was me!" many times.

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* HumongousMecha MassiveMultiplayerCrossover ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha'' had as it's its BigBad an OriginalGeneration character named Euzeth Gozzo. At the end of ''Alpha'', there's an extended sequence where Euzeth explains how was behind everything (and keep in mind that he's an OriginalGeneration character in a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover). A couple of times a character asks Euzeth if he was behind something that happened in their series, and he goes "That was me as well!"[[note]]"''"Sore mo watashi da"'' in Japanese[[/note]] This phrase and the character himself quickly went [[Memes/VideoGames memetic]] among the Japanese fanbase. Years later, the makers of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' created a series called ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'', starring all the OriginalGeneration characters from other ''Super Robot Wars'' games. In ''2nd Super Robot Wars Original Generations''. Euzeth Gozzo appears again and at this point he's fully an AscendedMeme. He makes ''another'' long speech about how he was behind everything in the ''Original Generation'' setting and he says "It was me!" many times.
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