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20th Aug '16 8:22:21 AM ZimFan89
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* [[spoiler: [[OmnicidalManiac Bagan]]]], the BigBad of ''Fanfic/TheBridge'', is later revealed to be pulling the strings of the [[ApocalypseCult Red Dawn]], main antagonists of the spinoff ''[[Fanfic/TheBridgeHumanitysStand Humanity's Stand]]''. And, in ''A Shimmer in the Dark'' -- a crossover between this universe and ''Fanfic/TheShimmerverse'' -- he also acts via his [[FightingAShadow Aspect]] Mizu as the benefactor for the [[TheRemnant Nightmare Army remnant]] led by that story's BigBad [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Countess Mircalla]].
8th Aug '16 2:33:17 PM Necal
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* In ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsIVSkyrim'', the local crime boss Maven Black-Briar is effectively in charge of the city. Between using the Thieves Guild for muscle, having contacts within the Dark Brotherhood for assassination, being personal friends with the local Jarl/Governor (which appears to be an actual friendship; one Maven exploits without a second thought, but an actual friendship nonetheless), and running a very profitable meadery (which, much like her friendship, seems to be quite legitimate. She has no problem burning down the competition, mind, but she'll make an offer before doing that and Black-Briar mead seems quite popular through Skyrim regardless) she so effectively controls the city that when she becomes Jarl its treated like little more than a formal acknowledgement of her position.
10th Jul '16 4:41:56 PM nombretomado
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* Semi-invoked in ''BrokenSaints'': The two {{Chessmaster}}s behind the Big Plan are presented as equal threats, only differing in that one stays more mysterious for longer than the other. Then, naturally, it turns out the more mysterious one, Lear, was just manipulating his more active partner Palmer, whom the heroes thought was the BigBad. Lear betrays and murders Palmer, revealing himself to be the real BigBad.

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* Semi-invoked in ''BrokenSaints'': ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'': The two {{Chessmaster}}s behind the Big Plan are presented as equal threats, only differing in that one stays more mysterious for longer than the other. Then, naturally, it turns out the more mysterious one, Lear, was just manipulating his more active partner Palmer, whom the heroes thought was the BigBad. Lear betrays and murders Palmer, revealing himself to be the real BigBad.
9th Jul '16 1:31:03 PM nombretomado
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* Metus to the Skrall in ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''.

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* Metus to the Skrall in ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''.''Toys/{{Bionicle}}''.
2nd Jul '16 8:55:38 PM Areis
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* The supercrossover military fanfiction ''Fanfic/TheTerminatorsArmyOfLegend'' gives us Archdemon Deitus the Immortal, the fallen son of fallen Archangels Messorem and Vitam, the incarnations of Death and Life respectively. Although he doesn't make his grand appearance until well into the multi-volume series, he's hinted throughout as being in control of every other antagonist.
**And then the eighth volume throws another wrench into the machine with the reveal that [[spoiler:Vergil]] is still alive, perhaps making him the Man Behind the Man ''BEHIND'' the Man.
26th Jun '16 2:38:03 PM nombretomado
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* The Black Council in the DresdenFiles. Screw over and manipulate heroes and villains alike.
** As of ''Cold Days'' an entity called Nemesis is revealed to have possibly been the Man Behind The Man to the Black Council, and the BiggerBad of the entire series. It is an [[EldritchAbomination Outsider that can infect people's minds]], and is responsible for pretty much everything that's transpired so far, much of which Harry had previously attributed to the Black Council. The exact relationship between Nemesis and the Black Council remains unclear; it could be an organization that has been influenced by Nemesis, or they could be attempting to use it to further their own ends, or there may not even ''be'' a Black Council as such.

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* The Black Council in the DresdenFiles.''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. Screw over and manipulate heroes and villains alike.
** As of ''Cold Days'' In ''Literature/ColdDays'' an entity called Nemesis is revealed to have possibly been the Man Behind The Man to the Black Council, and the BiggerBad of the entire series. It is an [[EldritchAbomination Outsider that can infect people's minds]], and is responsible for pretty much everything that's transpired so far, much of which Harry had previously attributed to the Black Council. The exact relationship between Nemesis and the Black Council remains unclear; it could be an organization that has been influenced by Nemesis, or they could be attempting to use it to further their own ends, or there may not even ''be'' a Black Council as such.
19th Jun '16 1:13:41 PM Prfnoff
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* In ''VideoGame/HolyUmbrella'', after defeating the Empror Dondera, you are then confronted by the true Emperor, a monstrous figure who was in DemonicPossession of him the whole time.

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* In ''VideoGame/HolyUmbrella'', after defeating the Empror Emperor Dondera, you are then confronted by the true Emperor, a monstrous figure who was in DemonicPossession of him the whole time.
19th Jun '16 11:40:23 AM Prfnoff
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* Zigzagged by ''Mage Gauntlet''. Hidden notes in several levels suggest the existence of a much more powerful demon than Hurgoth: Uamuleth, the deity of the Ashen Cult. He's the boss of the Cult's levels, and he's insulted by the notion that Hurgoth sent him to wreak havoc. When defeated, however, he drops the same crystal tether as the other Dark Realm bosses, indicating that Hurgoth really did send him. [[spoiler:Ultimately averted: Uamuleth is a Bigger Bad whose cult has nothing to do with the rest of the plot, Hurgoth is just an unintimidating gatekeeper, and the real Big Bad, Whitebeard, has no affiliation with either. It's never revealed whether or not Uamuleth is Hurgoth's boss, however.]]

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* Zigzagged by ''Mage Gauntlet''.''VideoGame/MageGauntlet''. Hidden notes in several levels suggest the existence of a much more powerful demon than Hurgoth: Uamuleth, the deity of the Ashen Cult. He's the boss of the Cult's levels, and he's insulted by the notion that Hurgoth sent him to wreak havoc. When defeated, however, he drops the same crystal tether as the other Dark Realm bosses, indicating that Hurgoth really did send him. [[spoiler:Ultimately averted: Uamuleth is a Bigger Bad whose cult has nothing to do with the rest of the plot, Hurgoth is just an unintimidating gatekeeper, and the real Big Bad, Whitebeard, has no affiliation with either. It's never revealed whether or not Uamuleth is Hurgoth's boss, however.]]


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* In ''VideoGame/HolyUmbrella'', after defeating the Empror Dondera, you are then confronted by the true Emperor, a monstrous figure who was in DemonicPossession of him the whole time.
11th Jun '16 8:02:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Book 5: By this point, Kitty's getting GenreSavvy, so when Ben gets kidnapped, she suspects Balthasar. It turns out that Balthasar's show is a front for a cult led by his showgirl, who is the real vampire master of Las Vegas. However, in a MetaTwist, they had nothing to do with Ben's disappearance -- that was the two-bit criminal the police suspected all along.

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** Book 5: By this point, Kitty's getting GenreSavvy, smart to it, so when Ben gets kidnapped, she suspects Balthasar. It turns out that Balthasar's show is a front for a cult led by his showgirl, who is the real vampire master of Las Vegas. However, in a MetaTwist, they had nothing to do with Ben's disappearance -- that was the two-bit criminal the police suspected all along.



** And in the sequel the Collectors are being controlled by Harbinger, another Reaper. Of course this time round Shepard and The Illusive Man are both GenreSavvy enough they guess that the Reapers are behind everything again right off the bat.

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** And in the sequel the Collectors are being controlled by Harbinger, another Reaper. Of course this time round Shepard and The Illusive Man are both GenreSavvy enough they correctly guess that the Reapers are behind everything again right off the bat.
26th May '16 11:55:21 AM MyFinalEdits
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* This is a possible situation in Orlais at the end of the ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''. For it to happen, The Empress must die and her cousin the Duke becomes Emperor, ''and'' if the Empress's elven spymaster gains blackmail over the Duke and can get him to do what she wants. Whether this is a good thing overall is [[GreyAndGreyMorality a matter of debate,]] but it definitely works out well for Orlesian elves.
** Even better, two other outcomes in the game have ''you'' as this to Empress Celene. The first is if the Empress rules alone, without Gaspard or Briala. The epilogue at the end of the game makes it clear that the only reason Celene remains on the throne is because the Inquisition backs her up. The second outcome occurs if you have enough evidence to blackmail all three of them into collaborating - the results are the same, only the Inquisition also controls a capable military leader and a network of Elf spies.

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* This is a possible situation in Orlais at the end of the ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''. For it to happen, The Empress must die and her cousin the Duke becomes Emperor, ''and'' if the Empress's elven spymaster gains blackmail over the Duke and can get him to do what she wants. Whether this is a good thing overall is [[GreyAndGreyMorality a matter of debate,]] but it definitely works out well for Orlesian elves. \n** Even better, two Two other outcomes in the game have ''you'' as this to Empress Celene. The first is if the Empress rules alone, without Gaspard or Briala. The epilogue at the end of the game makes it clear that the only reason Celene remains on the throne is because the Inquisition backs her up. The second outcome occurs if you have enough evidence to blackmail all three of them into collaborating - the results are the same, only the Inquisition also controls a capable military leader and a network of Elf spies.
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