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17th Sep '17 2:08:03 PM nombretomado
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* '''The Return''': Also called the ''[[ShapeShifterShowdown Magic Flight]]''; the Hero now has the boon and high-tails it away, with the villain or his forces in hot pursuit; while they engage in a battle of wits and magic ([[ShapeShifterShowdown especially shapeshifting]]) during the chase. (See the Celtic story of Taliesin's escape from Cerridwen for a textbook example of this.) The Hero's escape may not require actual magic, but ''will'' [[FinalExamFinale require all of the new skills he's learned]] and new [[HowToGatherCharacters allies he's made.]] Or alternately he could realize the AwfulTruth that [[YouCantGoHomeAgain he can't return home]] because sometimes FailureIsTheOnlyOption...

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* '''The Return''': Also called the ''[[ShapeShifterShowdown Magic Flight]]''; the Hero now has the boon and high-tails it away, with the villain or his forces in hot pursuit; while they engage in a battle of wits and magic ([[ShapeShifterShowdown especially shapeshifting]]) during the chase. (See the Celtic story of Taliesin's escape from Cerridwen for a textbook example of this.) The Hero's escape may not require actual magic, but ''will'' [[FinalExamFinale require all of the new skills he's learned]] and new [[HowToGatherCharacters [[JustForFun/HowToGatherCharacters allies he's made.]] Or alternately he could realize the AwfulTruth that [[YouCantGoHomeAgain he can't return home]] because sometimes FailureIsTheOnlyOption...
17th Sep '17 11:49:32 AM nombretomado
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This approach is not without critics, however. Some critics argue that Campbell's theory has become a [[StrictlyFormula formula]] on how to make hit stories and thus discourages originality. Others feel that the pattern is too [[PeopleSitOnChairs vague and general]] to be a notable pattern among both classical and modern stories. Still others feel that the approach focuses far too much on what good stories do when ''how'' they get there and the problems they must solve are more important.

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This approach is not without critics, however. Some critics argue that Campbell's theory has become a [[StrictlyFormula formula]] on how to make hit stories and thus discourages originality. Others feel that the pattern is too [[PeopleSitOnChairs [[Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs vague and general]] to be a notable pattern among both classical and modern stories. Still others feel that the approach focuses far too much on what good stories do when ''how'' they get there and the problems they must solve are more important.
5th Sep '17 1:10:18 PM Berrenta
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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. [[BellyOfTheWhale I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword]]! [[TheHeroDies Sadly I died]], [[BackFromTheDead then I resurrected]]! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''

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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] Ramona skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall call to adventure, a call I considered refusing]], refusing, but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging mentor, that's you]], you, told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. [[BellyOfTheWhale I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword]]! [[TheHeroDies sword! Sadly I died]], [[BackFromTheDead died, then I resurrected]]! resurrected! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} on and hand me the phone]]?"''phone?"''



** One may meet their [[Main/TrueCompanions Hero Partners]] here and [[Main/SaveThePrincess rescue a]] DamselInDistress.
* '''The BellyOfTheWhale''' represents a symbolic death for the Hero: the Hero is defeated and killed, his flesh scattered, ready to be reborn and emerge as a new person. If you think the symbolic death ought to come later, don't worry: ''The Writer's Journey'' omits this step altogether in favor of a ''Resurrection'' step just before the end.
** Part of this step involves the Hero [[Main/MentorOccupationalHazard Losing the Guide]].

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** One may meet their [[Main/TrueCompanions [[TrueCompanions Hero Partners]] here and [[Main/SaveThePrincess [[SaveThePrincess rescue a]] DamselInDistress.
* '''The BellyOfTheWhale''' [[CantRefuseTheCallAnymore Spiritual Death and Rebirth]]''' represents a symbolic death for the Hero: the Hero is defeated and killed, his flesh scattered, ready to be reborn and emerge as a new person. If you think the symbolic death ought to come later, don't worry: ''The Writer's Journey'' omits this step altogether in favor of a ''Resurrection'' step just before the end.
** Part of this step involves the Hero [[Main/MentorOccupationalHazard [[MentorOccupationalHazard Losing the Guide]].
3rd Sep '17 8:25:40 AM BrendanRizzo
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The pattern of the Hero's Journey can be found in shows ranging from ''Franchise/StarTrek'' to ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. George Lucas claims to have used it as a guide when writing ''StarWars''. Traditionally, the Hero's Journey was cyclic; a female Hero's Journey is more likely to be cyclic than a male's. ''Buffy The Vampire Slayer'' fits this to a tee; the movie is the first cycle, and each season roughly corresponds to one additional cycle. The game ''VideoGame/{{Journey}}'' intentionally fits this model exactly, even referring specific steps in the soundtrack's titles.

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The pattern of the Hero's Journey can be found in shows ranging from ''Franchise/StarTrek'' to ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. George Lucas claims to have used it as a guide when writing ''StarWars''. Traditionally, the Hero's Journey was cyclic; a female Hero's Journey is more likely to be cyclic than a male's. ''Buffy The Vampire Slayer'' fits this to a tee; the movie is the first cycle, and each season roughly corresponds to one additional cycle. The game ''VideoGame/{{Journey}}'' intentionally fits this model exactly, even referring specific steps in the soundtrack's titles.
titles. This sequence is so ubiquitous that even ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobSquarepantsMovie'' can be shown to follow it.
21st Aug '17 3:26:01 PM eroock
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** Part of this step involves the Hero [[Main/MentorOccupationalHazard Losing The Guide]].

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** Part of this step involves the Hero [[Main/MentorOccupationalHazard Losing The the Guide]].
24th Jun '17 12:57:53 PM Eievie
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->''"Look at me. Stuck on this crappy planet; Aunt and Uncle got burned up like chicken cutlets. What are ya' gonna do? Me, personally? I'm gonna save the galaxy and make out with my sister."''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/GloveAndBoots Johnny T]] as [[Franchise/StarWars Luke Skywalker]]''', ''[[https://youtu.be/yZxs_jGN7Pg?t=85 The Hero's Journey]]''



* Departure: the Hero leaves the familiar world behind.
* Initiation: the Hero learns to navigate the unfamiliar world of adventure.
* Return: the Hero returns to the familiar world.

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* Departure: '''Departure:''' the Hero leaves the familiar world behind.
* Initiation: '''Initiation:''' the Hero learns to navigate the unfamiliar world of adventure.
* Return: '''Return:''' the Hero returns to the familiar world.
22nd Jun '17 1:31:28 AM MetroidPeter
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-->-- '''[[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld Scott Pilgrim]]'''

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-->-- '''[[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld Scott Pilgrim]]'''
Pilgrim]]''' [[note]]It's from a [[DummiedOut deleted scene]], but it still fits.[[/note]]
22nd Jun '17 1:28:26 AM MetroidPeter
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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword! [[BellyOfTheWhale Sadly I died]], then I resurrected! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''

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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. [[BellyOfTheWhale I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword! [[BellyOfTheWhale sword]]! [[TheHeroDies Sadly I died]], [[BackFromTheDead then I resurrected! resurrected]]! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''
22nd Jun '17 1:27:01 AM MetroidPeter
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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword! Sadly I died, then I resurrected! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''

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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword! [[BellyOfTheWhale Sadly I died, died]], then I resurrected! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''
22nd Jun '17 1:24:39 AM MetroidPeter
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->''"Wallace, when my journey began, I was living in an ordinary world. [[{{Herald}} Ramona]] skated through my dreams, and it was like a CallToAdventure, [[RefusalOfTheCall a call I considered refusing]], but my [[TheObiWan mentor]], [[LampshadeHanging that's you]], told me if I want something bad enough, I have to fight for it! So I did, there were tests, allies, enemies. I approached a deep cave and went through a crazy ordeal, during which I totally seized the sword! Sadly I died, then I resurrected! Now I realize what I should've been fighting for all along, but before I do, I have to ask one final favor of you... [[ItMakesSenseInContext could you put a robe on]] [[{{Anticlimax}} and hand me the phone]]?"''
-->-- '''[[Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld Scott Pilgrim]]'''
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