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13th Jun '17 7:51:01 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Roa from ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' got excommunicated for becoming a vampire on his quest for immortality. He then got excommunicated [[UpToEleven by the vampires]] for reasons unexplained.

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* Roa from ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' got excommunicated for becoming a vampire on his quest for immortality. He then got excommunicated [[UpToEleven by the vampires]] for [[NoodleIncident reasons unexplained.
unexplained]].
13th Jun '17 7:49:29 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence.[[EvilVersusEvil Or just as bad as them.]]

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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence. [[EvilVersusEvil Or just as bad as them.]]
13th Jun '17 7:48:36 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Not so ironically, the Imperial Cult ''really is heresy'', because the Emperor himself preached an [[FlatEarthAtheist Imperial Truth of science, rationality, and enforced disbelief in the Warp]]...which in and of itself [[NiceJobBreakingItHero did about jack shit]] since the Chaos Gods [[AnthropomorphicPersonification only need people to feel emotions to gain power]], and all it did was leave some of the most powerful of his warriors either ignorant or underestimating their insidious ways until it was too late. Like Lorgar, who was suffering from a HeroicBSOD after the Emperor [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill brutally shattered his desire to worship him by destroying his crown jewel of a city and anyone who refused to leave and reprimanded him and his Legion in public]] when a few members of his Legion came to him about [[GodIsEvil gods who would gladly accept his worship]]...

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** Not so ironically, the Imperial Cult ''really is heresy'', because the Emperor himself preached an [[FlatEarthAtheist Imperial Truth of science, rationality, and enforced disbelief in the Warp]]... which in and of itself [[NiceJobBreakingItHero did about jack shit]] since the Chaos Gods [[AnthropomorphicPersonification only need people to feel emotions to gain power]], and all it did was leave some of the most powerful of his warriors either ignorant or underestimating their insidious ways until it was too late. Like Lorgar, who was suffering from a HeroicBSOD after the Emperor [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill brutally shattered his desire to worship him by destroying his crown jewel of a city and anyone who refused to leave and reprimanded him and his Legion in public]] when a few members of his Legion came to him about [[GodIsEvil gods who would gladly accept his worship]]...
20th May '17 1:29:37 PM nombretomado
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** However, both appear to have been VindicatedByHistory by the time of ''VagrantStory'''s events later in the Ivalice continuity.

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** However, both appear to have been VindicatedByHistory by the time of ''VagrantStory'''s ''VideoGame/VagrantStory'''s events later in the Ivalice continuity.
14th May '17 11:29:14 AM Kakai
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* ''Literature/TheMachineriesOfEmpire'': in the Hexarchate, people who refuse to follow the High Calendar (which [[RealityWarping warps reality]] to produce [[FunctionalMagic exotic effects]]) are considered heretics. Some are reformed, while others are tortured on holidays.
2nd Apr '17 2:50:15 AM dunefish
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To qualify as a heresy worthy of condemnation, the "heresy" should have an intrinsic connection to doctrines of the church in question. Someone who merely disagrees with the Church as an outsider is not a heretic - for instance, Hypatia of Alexandria. Wiccans and Buddhists are not considered "heretics" to the Catholic religion, but Padre Ned Reidy was put on trial for heresy.

The word "heretic" is from a Greek word meaning "to choose," so a heretic can be thought of as a person who chooses his own path. Much like YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters in the political realm, those whom the Church labels "heretics" often claim that they're actually "reformers" or "purifiers". Christian theologian Irenaeus popularized the word heresy in the Christian world in his anti-UsefulNotes/{{Gnostic|ism}} tracts. Multiple heretics often form a {{Cult}}.

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To qualify as a heresy worthy of condemnation, the "heresy" should have an intrinsic connection to doctrines of the church in question. Someone who merely disagrees with the Church as an outsider is not a heretic - for instance, Hypatia of Alexandria. Wiccans and Buddhists are not considered "heretics" to the Catholic religion, but Padre Ned Reidy was put on trial for heresy.

heresy. Non-followers are more properly called "pagans" or "heathens".

The word "heretic" is from a Greek word meaning "to choose," so a heretic can be thought of as a person who chooses his own path. Much like YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters in the political realm, those whom the Church labels "heretics" often claim that they're actually "reformers" or "purifiers". Christian theologian Irenaeus popularized the word heresy in the Christian world in his anti-UsefulNotes/{{Gnostic|ism}} tracts. Multiple heretics often form a {{Cult}}.
{{Cult}}. Heresies are often named for their leader, e.g. Arianism, propagated by Arius. If these groups persist and grow, they can become "denominations" of a religion, e.g. Lutheranism, founded by Martin Luther.
24th Mar '17 12:29:22 PM ChaoticNovelist
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*''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'': The Spanish Inquisition (the 15th/16th century Templars) considers Aguilar and the other Assassins to be such, and burns them at stake for it. The exact nature of it is vague because it's not really about heresy but about Templars getting rid of their enemies and using this as a public excuse.
3rd Feb '17 9:01:41 PM zarpaulus
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' there are several heterodoxies of the Church of S'allumer besides the orthodox Penitence. While the Monophysismites are considered outright heretics for believing that the church's founders actually came from another world.


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* In ''Webcomic/SeventySeas'' Lewk is a rogue priest of Lapak who absconded with several holy relics and is relentlessly pursued by the Church's inquisitors. Though most of the time he seems like just a con artist who incorporates religious stuff into his scams.
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18th Jan '17 1:49:26 PM Dravencour
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* Nero rejects the teachings of his church to save his lover, Kyrie, in ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry 4''.

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* Nero rejects the teachings of his church to save his lover, Kyrie, in ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry 4''. It helps that Nero has a better understanding of who Sparda was than the Order's elite, and that Sanctus, the head of the Order, was a power-mad bastard with no understanding of love at all.
15th Jan '17 2:17:32 PM memememememe
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** Of course, in this case they have a point: the Chaos Gods reward such activities as bloodshed, betrayal, hedonism, and spreading disease. Faith in the Emperor is just about the only defense Imperial citizens have against Chaos.

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** Of course, in this case they have a point: the Chaos Gods reward such activities as bloodshed, betrayal, hedonism, sadism, and spreading disease. Faith in the Emperor is just about the only defense Imperial citizens have against Chaos.
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