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* ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes'': Cornelius and Zira get accused of heresy for their theories (and later proof) on human intelligence.

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* ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes'': Cornelius and Zira get accused of heresy for their theories (and later proof) on human intelligence.
4th Jul '16 10:00:38 AM TheUnknownUploader
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* ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes'': Cornelius and Zira get accused of heresy for their theories (and later proof) on human intelligence.
22nd Jun '16 3:24:29 AM Shadowgazer
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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence.

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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence.
DefectorFromDecadence.[[EvilVersusEvil Or just as bad as them.]]



* Heresy is a common charge leveled against people in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', particularly by those who serve the [[CorruptChurch Holy See]]. The Count from the third major manga story uses the charge of heresy to get himself people to eat, being an Apostle. And Mozgus in particular is [[KnightTemplar very]] [[ColdBloodedTorture much]] merciless in dealing with those who he considers heretics.

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* Heresy is a common charge leveled against people in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', particularly by those who serve the [[CorruptChurch Holy See]]. The Count from the third major manga story uses the charge of heresy to get himself people to eat, being an Apostle. And Mozgus in particular is [[KnightTemplar very]] [[ColdBloodedTorture much]] merciless in dealing with those who he considers heretics. [[EvilVersusEvil The true heretics themselves (at least Slan's cult) are not much better]].
19th Jun '16 5:01:48 AM Chabal2
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* ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'': The Omnian church indegenerated into this from its original purpose. Discworld gods need belief to survive, but as their religion gets more and more elaborate, people believed in the rituals and ceremonies more than the god itself, until Om was almost starved and the church became a totalitarian nightmare, with a special Quisition being formed to root out heretics in their own fold. They they started looking for heretics (and witches) abroad, such as those who might preach ridiculous nonsense like the world being flat and carried on the back of a giant turtle, when every good Omnian knows the world is round. ''Discworld/SmallGods'' shows how they finally got out of this mindset thanks to Om's last true believer (the book has simultaneously been called an attack on, and a defense of, Christianity).



** Of course, in this case they have a point: the Chaos Gods reward such activities as bloodshed, betrayal, hedonism, and spreading disease. Faith in the Emperor is just about the only defense Imperial citizens have against Chaos.



** There are also heretics who deviate from the Imperium's ''other'' orthodoxy, the Cult Mechanicus. These "hereteks" usually start out as tech-priests who chafe under the Cult's strict restrictions on innovation and study of Xeno technology, and start experimenting with new designs and reverse-engineering captured alien tech, fully intending to better mankind through their work. This being [[CrapsackWorld 40k]], there's some ''very'' good reasons this things are forbidden, and most hereteks end up [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope taking a flying leap off the slippery slope]] sooner or later and going full over to Chaos, if they don't get themselves killed first.

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** There are also heretics who deviate from the Imperium's ''other'' orthodoxy, the Cult Mechanicus. These "hereteks" usually start out as tech-priests who chafe under the Cult's strict restrictions on innovation and study of Xeno technology, and start experimenting with new designs and reverse-engineering captured alien tech, fully intending to better mankind through their work. This being [[CrapsackWorld 40k]], there's some ''very'' good reasons this things are forbidden, and most hereteks end up [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope taking a flying leap off the slippery slope]] sooner or later and going full over to Chaos, if they don't get themselves killed first. And if that wasn't enough, there's a very good chance they (unknowingly) ''are'' heretics- the Omnissiah is supposed to be an aspect of the GodEmperor, but it's strongly hinted that it's actually a C'tan CosmicHorror known as the Void Dragon, who has power over machines. So while the lower members of the Mechanicus are always happy to discover Necron tomb worlds and poke around until the Necrons wake up, the higher-ups know perfectly well what they're doing.
18th May '16 1:23:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* Nicholas Harpole in ''[[TheCompanyNovels In The Garden of Iden]]''.

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* Nicholas Harpole in ''[[TheCompanyNovels ''[[Literature/TheCompanyNovels In The Garden of Iden]]''.
1st May '16 11:19:50 PM Arutema
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* Before ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the end of the Great War between the Empire of Tamriel and the Aldmeri Dominion saw the Dominion force the Empire to ban the worship of Talos, as the xenophobic and elven-supremacist Thalmor utterly refuse to recognize the ascension of a man into the ranks of the other Eight Divines. This has the effect of making all those who still worship Talos heretics in the eyes of the Thalmor, who arrest or summarily execute Talos worshipers they come across depending on their mood.
** Back in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', the Dissident Priests were heretics to the Tribunal Temple, disputing several points of dogma (though this appears to have been partly a response to being persecuted for questioning Temple ''policy'', which isn't exactly heresy even if the Temple called it that). The Tribunal Temple also persecutes the Nerevarine Cult as heretics (technically they are, just not really of the Temple, seeing as they developed in parallel in response to the same event and from the same source religion. It's actually the ''Temple'' who made the most radical changes of dogma, the Nerevarine Cult just explained away the new gods as false gods and added in a messiah figure). [[spoiler: Both of those change towards the end of the main quest, with the Dissident Priests acknowledged as having had a point with much of what they said and the Nerevarine Cult recognised as being right about the messiah figure thing, both by one of the gods of the Tribunal himself.]]

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* Before ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the end of the Great War between the Empire of Tamriel and the Aldmeri Dominion saw the Dominion force the Empire to ban the worship of Talos, as the xenophobic and elven-supremacist Thalmor utterly refuse to recognize the ascension of a man into the ranks of the other Eight Divines. This has the effect of making all those who still worship Talos heretics in the eyes of the Thalmor, who arrest or summarily execute Talos worshipers they come across depending on their mood.
** Back in
In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', the Dissident Priests were heretics to the Tribunal Temple, disputing several points of dogma (though this appears to have been partly a response to being persecuted for questioning Temple ''policy'', which isn't exactly heresy even if the Temple called it that). The Tribunal Temple also persecutes the Nerevarine Cult as heretics (technically they are, just not really of the Temple, seeing as they developed in parallel in response to the same event and from the same source religion. It's actually the ''Temple'' who made the most radical changes of dogma, the Nerevarine Cult just explained away the new gods as false gods and added in a messiah figure). [[spoiler: Both of those change towards the end of the main quest, with the Dissident Priests acknowledged as having had a point with much of what they said and the Nerevarine Cult recognised as being right about the messiah figure thing, both by one of the gods of the Tribunal himself.]]
19th Apr '16 9:40:54 PM Medinoc
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** The {{Player Character}}s of ''TabletopGame/BlackCrusade'' are Chaos followers, and books always refer to them as "the Heretics".
5th Apr '16 1:25:10 PM DalekKanNoladti
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** Not so ironically, the Imperial Cult ''really is heresy'', because the Emperor himself preached an [[FlatEarthAtheist Imperial Truth of science, rationality, and enforced disbelief in the Warp]].
9th Mar '16 3:29:06 PM Theriocephalus
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** There are also heretics who deviate from the Imperium's ''other'' orthodoxy, the Cult Mechanicus. These "hereteks" usually start out as tech-priests who chafe under the Cult's strict restrictions on innovation and study of Xeno technology, and start experimenting with new designs and reverse-engineering captured alien tech, fully intending to better mankind through their work. This being [[CrapsackWorld 40k]], there's some ''very'' good reasons this things are forbidden, and most hereteks end up [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope taking a flying leap off the slippery slope]] sooner or later and going full over to Chaos, if they don't get themselves killed first.
12th Feb '16 4:24:39 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* In ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'', Karthus the Deathsinger joined the Order of the Tallymen of Kindred (a collection of gravediggers, pyre-builders, corpse collectors and carers for the dying who follow [[TheGrimReaper Kindred, the incarnation of death]]) and rose to become quite prominent in the order. Once he decided he could learn no more about death from mortals, he traveled to [[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace the Shadow Isles]] and transformed himself into an immortal lich who trapped the souls of his victims in an undead state like himself, making him an abomination to Kindred, to whom unnatural prolonging of life beyond one's time is the greatest evil.
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