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30th Oct '17 6:09:19 PM DustSnitch
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* In ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', heretics can be found in the sixth circle of Hell. Their punishment is to lie in flaming tombs. The ones we see are there because they were Epicureans, which was considered heresy because Epicurus's deistic beliefs (he thought that the gods lived far off and paid no attention to mortal lives, and that [[CessationOfExistence the soul died with the body]]) contradicted major points of Christian doctrine.



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22nd Aug '17 9:03:44 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/{{Kenau}}'': what a lot of Dutch people are, according to the Spanish. The persecution of Protestants is the main reason the Low Countries rose in revolt against Spain. It is also the reason why Kenau's daughter is burned, and triggers her anger against the Spanish so much that she goes from RefusalOfTheCall to JumpedAtTheCall in no time.
* ''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'': The Spanish Inquisition (the 15th/16th century Templars) considers Aguilar and the other Assassins to be such, and burns them at stake for it. The exact nature of it is vague because it's not really about heresy but about Templars getting rid of their enemies and using this as a public excuse.

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* In ''Film/{{Kenau}}'': ''Film/{{Kenau}}'', what a lot of Dutch people are, according to the Spanish. The persecution of Protestants is the main reason the Low Countries rose in revolt against Spain. It is also the reason why Kenau's daughter is burned, and triggers her anger against the Spanish so much that she goes from RefusalOfTheCall to JumpedAtTheCall in no time.
* ''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'': The Spanish Inquisition (the 15th/16th century Templars) considers Aguilar and the other Assassins to be such, and burns them at the stake for it. The exact nature of it is vague because it's not really about heresy but about the Templars getting rid of their enemies and using this as a public excuse.excuse (the real Templars actually had this happen to ''them'', although much earlier, and were disbanded by the Pope).
15th Jul '17 4:30:34 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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*** Actually subverted in the case of the Nerevarine prophecy -- while the Temple considers it a folk superstition and persecutes the Ashlanders who believe it, when you actually show up and start fulfilling the prophecy, you get a letter from the local Archcanon. You see, they're not sure if you're a legitimate reincarnation of St. Nerevar ... so they're going to do their damnedest to try and kill you, as a sort of test. If you really are the Nerevarine, something so petty as a full inquisitorial process could hardly keep you from fulfilling your prophecies, now could it?

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*** ** Actually subverted in the case of the Nerevarine prophecy -- while the Temple considers it a folk superstition and persecutes the Ashlanders who believe it, when you actually show up and start fulfilling the prophecy, you get a letter from the local Archcanon. You see, they're not sure if you're a legitimate reincarnation of St. Nerevar ... so they're going to do their damnedest to try and kill you, as a sort of test. If you really are the Nerevarine, something so petty as a full inquisitorial process could hardly keep you from fulfilling your prophecies, now could it?
13th Jun '17 7:51:01 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Roa from ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' got excommunicated for becoming a vampire on his quest for immortality. He then got excommunicated [[UpToEleven by the vampires]] for reasons unexplained.

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* Roa from ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' got excommunicated for becoming a vampire on his quest for immortality. He then got excommunicated [[UpToEleven by the vampires]] for [[NoodleIncident reasons unexplained.
unexplained]].
13th Jun '17 7:49:29 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence.[[EvilVersusEvil Or just as bad as them.]]

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TheHeretic is a traitor to TheChurch and/or its {{Canon}}. Most commonly, he was once a member of its congregation or even its [[GoodShepherd clergy]] but got officially excommunicated for propagating beliefs that go against TheChurch's official dogma. Often, the Church sends out [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] to [[KillItWithFire Kill Them With Fire]] along with [[BurnTheWitch witches]]. Just being a heretic doesn't mark you evil by default: A heretic to a SaintlyChurch is often ChaoticEvil, but a heretic to a CorruptChurch or a PathOfInspiration may well be a DefectorFromDecadence. [[EvilVersusEvil Or just as bad as them.]]
13th Jun '17 7:48:36 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Not so ironically, the Imperial Cult ''really is heresy'', because the Emperor himself preached an [[FlatEarthAtheist Imperial Truth of science, rationality, and enforced disbelief in the Warp]]...which in and of itself [[NiceJobBreakingItHero did about jack shit]] since the Chaos Gods [[AnthropomorphicPersonification only need people to feel emotions to gain power]], and all it did was leave some of the most powerful of his warriors either ignorant or underestimating their insidious ways until it was too late. Like Lorgar, who was suffering from a HeroicBSOD after the Emperor [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill brutally shattered his desire to worship him by destroying his crown jewel of a city and anyone who refused to leave and reprimanded him and his Legion in public]] when a few members of his Legion came to him about [[GodIsEvil gods who would gladly accept his worship]]...

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** Not so ironically, the Imperial Cult ''really is heresy'', because the Emperor himself preached an [[FlatEarthAtheist Imperial Truth of science, rationality, and enforced disbelief in the Warp]]... which in and of itself [[NiceJobBreakingItHero did about jack shit]] since the Chaos Gods [[AnthropomorphicPersonification only need people to feel emotions to gain power]], and all it did was leave some of the most powerful of his warriors either ignorant or underestimating their insidious ways until it was too late. Like Lorgar, who was suffering from a HeroicBSOD after the Emperor [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill brutally shattered his desire to worship him by destroying his crown jewel of a city and anyone who refused to leave and reprimanded him and his Legion in public]] when a few members of his Legion came to him about [[GodIsEvil gods who would gladly accept his worship]]...
20th May '17 1:29:37 PM nombretomado
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** However, both appear to have been VindicatedByHistory by the time of ''VagrantStory'''s events later in the Ivalice continuity.

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** However, both appear to have been VindicatedByHistory by the time of ''VagrantStory'''s ''VideoGame/VagrantStory'''s events later in the Ivalice continuity.
14th May '17 11:29:14 AM Kakai
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* ''Literature/TheMachineriesOfEmpire'': in the Hexarchate, people who refuse to follow the High Calendar (which [[RealityWarping warps reality]] to produce [[FunctionalMagic exotic effects]]) are considered heretics. Some are reformed, while others are tortured on holidays.
2nd Apr '17 2:50:15 AM dunefish
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To qualify as a heresy worthy of condemnation, the "heresy" should have an intrinsic connection to doctrines of the church in question. Someone who merely disagrees with the Church as an outsider is not a heretic - for instance, Hypatia of Alexandria. Wiccans and Buddhists are not considered "heretics" to the Catholic religion, but Padre Ned Reidy was put on trial for heresy.

The word "heretic" is from a Greek word meaning "to choose," so a heretic can be thought of as a person who chooses his own path. Much like YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters in the political realm, those whom the Church labels "heretics" often claim that they're actually "reformers" or "purifiers". Christian theologian Irenaeus popularized the word heresy in the Christian world in his anti-UsefulNotes/{{Gnostic|ism}} tracts. Multiple heretics often form a {{Cult}}.

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To qualify as a heresy worthy of condemnation, the "heresy" should have an intrinsic connection to doctrines of the church in question. Someone who merely disagrees with the Church as an outsider is not a heretic - for instance, Hypatia of Alexandria. Wiccans and Buddhists are not considered "heretics" to the Catholic religion, but Padre Ned Reidy was put on trial for heresy.

heresy. Non-followers are more properly called "pagans" or "heathens".

The word "heretic" is from a Greek word meaning "to choose," so a heretic can be thought of as a person who chooses his own path. Much like YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters in the political realm, those whom the Church labels "heretics" often claim that they're actually "reformers" or "purifiers". Christian theologian Irenaeus popularized the word heresy in the Christian world in his anti-UsefulNotes/{{Gnostic|ism}} tracts. Multiple heretics often form a {{Cult}}.
{{Cult}}. Heresies are often named for their leader, e.g. Arianism, propagated by Arius. If these groups persist and grow, they can become "denominations" of a religion, e.g. Lutheranism, founded by Martin Luther.
24th Mar '17 12:29:22 PM ChaoticNovelist
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*''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'': The Spanish Inquisition (the 15th/16th century Templars) considers Aguilar and the other Assassins to be such, and burns them at stake for it. The exact nature of it is vague because it's not really about heresy but about Templars getting rid of their enemies and using this as a public excuse.
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