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8th Apr '16 2:19:00 AM M3
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** Turns out to be GenerationXerox to some extent: their mother, Helen, has an acrimonious relationship with her older sister Rita, and to a lesser extent their younger sister Amy. Rita seems to be the pretty one, Amy the smart one, and Helen the overachiever who's become the most successful.

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** Turns out to be GenerationXerox to some extent: their mother, Helen, has an acrimonious relationship with her older sister Rita, and to a lesser extent their younger sister Amy. Rita seems to be the pretty one, Amy the smart one, and Helen the overachiever who's become the most successful. Interestingly, each sister has their own gripes towards the other two. Despite being spoiled the most by their mother, Rita felt that Helen's achievements made Amy and herself look lazy; whereas Amy got out of doing anything for the family by shutting herself in. By comparison, Amy feels that Helen was too high strung/high maintenance (going as far to congratulate Jake for putting up with her) and resented the constant attention that Rita got from their mother which in turn led to Amy constantly withdrawing herself.
1st Mar '16 3:02:00 PM fearlessnikki
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** Subverted in another Austen example: [[PrideAndPrejudice Jane and Elizabeth Bennet]] are the pretty and the smart one respectively, but they are best friends instead of rivals. Though one could argue that the rivalry is between Elizabeth and youngest sister Lydia, who is not as pretty as Jane but fits the flirty personality type better.
** If we're going Austen, Anne and Elizabeth Elliot have elements of this, though they have another sister too.

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** Subverted in another Austen example: [[PrideAndPrejudice Jane and Elizabeth Bennet]] are the pretty and the smart one respectively, but they are best friends instead of rivals. Though one could argue that the rivalry is between Elizabeth and youngest sister Lydia, who is not as pretty as Jane but fits the flirty personality type better.
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* If we're going Austen, Anne and Elizabeth Elliot have elements of this, though they have another sister too.too.
* Austen's ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' examines the trope in some way, before it [[UnbuiltTrope was even a trope yet]]. The two eldest Bennett daughters Jane and Lizzie are both smart and pretty, but one trait overshadows the other in each case - Jane being the pretty one of the family but a little too naive and trusting, while Lizzie's {{Tomboy}} nature preventing her from being thought as pretty as Jane but her wit and intelligence making up for it. They embody the positive qualities of the smart and pretty sisters, while their three younger sisters embody the negatives. Mary the wannabe smart sister is actually a KnowNothingKnowItAll, who cares more about forcing her opinions on others than actually cultivating her mind. Lydia and Kitty are the wannabe pretty sisters, but are silly vapid boy-crazy idiots - who embarrass the family at every possible interval.



* ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' is basically a [[GenderFlip Glorious War Of Brotherly Rivalry]].

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* ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' is basically a [[GenderFlip Glorious War Of Brotherly Rivalry]]. Drake would the 'pretty brother' - as he's a ChickMagnet musician who gets a lot of slack because of his good looks. Josh is the 'smart brother' who often resents Drake's special treatment.



* Hope and Faith from...uh...''Series/HopeAndFaith''.

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* Hope and Faith from...uh...''Series/HopeAndFaith''. Hope fills the smart sister role - as a responsible stay-at-home mom, while Faith fills the pretty sister role - a fallen SoapOpera actress.


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* ''Series/TotalDivas'' plays this up between the Wrestling/BellaTwins - with Brie taking the role of the smart sister, and Nikki being the pretty sister. Also a case of PolarOppositeTwins too.
16th Feb '16 4:14:48 AM Euodiachloris
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* Sansa and Arya Stark in George R.R. Martin's ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''almost'' meet the description. Sansa is very conventionally pretty, popular, and fashionable, but she's actually the more bookish of the two, if ''very'' [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel naive]]. Her sister's lack of standard graces, manners and polish constantly embarrasses her and she always feels the need to call her out on any faux pas she makes. Arya is, although not particularly intellectual, rather more StreetSmart and is rebellious, active, comparatively homely, supremely uninterested in fashion and ''very'' critical of her sister's perceived shallowness and unwillingness to get out and smell the reality. Their relationship seems to straddle the line between truly loving each other, and CainAndAbel: you cannot leave them alone in the same room for ten minutes without both finding ways to hurt the other -- and then feel (reluctantly, if almost genuinely) sorry about it, later. At least until [[BreakTheCutie both of them are horribly broken]].

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* Sansa and Arya Stark in George R.R. Martin's ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''almost'' meet the description. Sansa is very conventionally pretty, popular, and fashionable, but she's actually the more bookish of the two, if ''very'' [[ThinksLikeARomanceNovel naive]]. Her sister's lack of standard graces, manners and polish constantly embarrasses her and she always feels the need to call her out on any faux pas she makes. Arya is, although not particularly intellectual, rather more StreetSmart and is rebellious, active, comparatively homely, supremely uninterested in fashion and ''very'' critical of her sister's perceived shallowness and unwillingness to get out and smell the reality. Their relationship seems to straddle the line between truly loving each other, and CainAndAbel: you cannot leave them alone in the same room for ten minutes without both each finding ways to hurt the other -- and to then feel start feeling (reluctantly, if almost genuinely) sorry about it, it once their emotions have settled, later. At least until [[BreakTheCutie both of them are horribly broken]].broken]] [[spoiler:upon their being separated]].
3rd Feb '16 3:56:05 PM animenutcase
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* In ''FanFic/ADifferentDursleyFamily", Petunia speculates that her mother tried to invoke this by only praising her daughters when they were out of earshot and unfavorably comparing them to each other, perhaps out of the belief that it would lead to healthy competition. It didn't work, and Petunia struggles with her resentment towards Lily for years, even seeking therapy when it starts to affect the way she treats Harry.

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* In ''FanFic/ADifferentDursleyFamily", ''FanFic/ADifferentDursleyFamily'', Petunia speculates that her mother tried to invoke this by only praising her daughters when they were out of earshot and unfavorably comparing them to each other, perhaps out of the belief that it would lead to healthy competition. It didn't work, and Petunia struggles with her resentment towards Lily for years, even seeking therapy when it starts to affect the way she treats Harry.
3rd Feb '16 3:55:32 PM animenutcase
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* In ''FanFic/ADifferentDursleyFamily", Petunia speculates that her mother tried to invoke this by only praising her daughters when they were out of earshot and unfavorably comparing them to each other, perhaps out of the belief that it would lead to healthy competition. It didn't work, and Petunia struggles with her resentment towards Lily for years, even seeking therapy when it starts to affect the way she treats Harry.
2nd Feb '16 8:07:21 PM Gravidef
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* Downplayed in ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' with the witch sisters Yubaba and Zeniba. The two lead vastly different lives--Yubaba is a wealthy businesswoman who runs a famous bathhouse for tired spirits, which technically makes her the Smart One (as she has a head for numbers and industry), while Zeniba lives alone in a small cottage in the woods; the [[TrueCompanions heroes]] of the film come to like her more than Yubaba, so she could be considered the Popular One. The two sisters aren't fond of each other, but they don't seem all that interested in pursuing their rivalry; it's more a case of leaving one another alone unless provoked.



* The 2001 adaptation of ''Literature/PrettyThings'' based on a novel by VirginieDespentes. See the literature section.

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* The 2001 adaptation of ''Literature/PrettyThings'' based on a novel by VirginieDespentes.Virginie Despentes. See the literature section.
29th Jan '16 12:03:40 PM Gravidef
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** First off, we have Celestia and Luna, the [[PhysicalGod embodiments of day and night]]. Older sister Celestia is the Popular One--the [[GodEmperor God Empress]] of Equestria who brings daylight to the land, beloved by all of her people--while the younger Luna shows traces of the Smart One (she has PsychicPowers including being a DreamWalker) and, in her opinion, isn't as well-liked, because everypony is asleep when she delivers nighttime to the world. Luna's jealousy of Celestia's popularity eventually [[GreenEyedMonster transforms her into the monstrous Nightmare Moon]], which in turn forces Celestia to banish her to the moon for a thousand years. By the end of the pilot, Luna has been healed, and the two sisters mend their relationship (though a few later episodes, and the tie-in comics hint that they're still rivals, though to a far lesser extent).

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** First off, we have Celestia and Luna, the [[PhysicalGod embodiments of day and night]]. Older sister Celestia is the Popular One--the [[GodEmperor God Empress]] of Equestria who brings daylight to the land, beloved by all of her people--while the younger Luna shows traces of the Smart One (she has PsychicPowers including being a DreamWalker) and, in her opinion, isn't as well-liked, because everypony is asleep when she delivers nighttime to the world. Luna's jealousy of Celestia's popularity eventually [[GreenEyedMonster transforms her into the monstrous Nightmare Moon]], which in turn forces Celestia to banish her to the moon for a thousand years. By the end of the pilot, Luna has been healed, and the two sisters mend their relationship (though a few later episodes, and the tie-in comics comics, hint that they're still rivals, though to a far lesser extent).



** Finally, the trope is largely averted with Applejack and Apple Bloom. Both have pretty much the same personality--headstrong, hard-working, and compassionate--and both get along extremely well. The only tension in their relationship was a [[CompressedVice single incident]] in "Somepony to Watch Over Me" where Applejack though that Apple Bloom needed to be kept safe, and so babied her to an absurd degree.

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** Finally, the trope is largely averted with Applejack and Apple Bloom. Both have pretty much the same personality--headstrong, hard-working, and compassionate--and both get along extremely well. The only tension in their relationship was a [[CompressedVice single incident]] in "Somepony to Watch Over Me" where Applejack though thought that Apple Bloom needed to be kept safe, safe and so babied her to an absurd degree.
29th Jan '16 12:00:10 PM Gravidef
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* This trope appears several times in ''Series/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
** First off, we have Celestia and Luna, the [[PhysicalGod embodiments of day and night]]. Older sister Celestia is the Popular One--the [[GodEmperor God Empress]] of Equestria who brings daylight to the land, beloved by all of her people--while the younger Luna shows traces of the Smart One (she has PsychicPowers including being a DreamWalker) and, in her opinion, isn't as well-liked, because everypony is asleep when she delivers nighttime to the world. Luna's jealousy of Celestia's popularity eventually [[GreenEyedMonster transforms her into the monstrous Nightmare Moon]], which in turn forces Celestia to banish her to the moon for a thousand years. By the end of the pilot, Luna has been healed, and the two sisters mend their relationship (though a few later episodes, and the tie-in comics hint that they're still rivals, though to a far lesser extent).
** Among the Mane Six, we have Rarity and Sweetie Belle. Like Celestia, Rarity is the Popular One and older of the two, a prim-and-proper pony who works as a seamstress/fashion designer and loves high society. Like Luna, Sweetie Belle is younger, and while not the polar opposite of her sister, she's far more energetic and playful, which contrasts with Rarity's posh attitude. Both Sweetie Belle-centric episodes ("Sisterhooves Social" and "For Whom the Sweetie Belle Tolls") focus on the contrast between the sisters, with Sweetie becoming particularly jealous of Rarity and either declaring that she doesn't want to be her sister or intentionally sabotaging one of Rarity's important clients.
** The trope is downplayed with Pinkie and Maud Pie. Pinkie is the younger sister and Popular One--she's quite literally the embodiment of fun and laughter, has a bright-pink color, and works as a party planner and apprentice baker in Ponyville. Older sister Maud is the Smart One--she's an expert on rocks who is receiving a doctorate in the field, is dull gray, and has a single friend (a small pebble). Both sisters are well aware of their severe contrast, but don't try to change for one another. This is perhaps best symbolized by the Pies' tradition of exchanging rock candy necklaces whenever they see each other--Pinkie loves sugar and always devours hers right away, while Maud hates sweets and keeps them in a small box. But [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther despite their differences, they love each other dearly]].
** Finally, the trope is largely averted with Applejack and Apple Bloom. Both have pretty much the same personality--headstrong, hard-working, and compassionate--and both get along extremely well. The only tension in their relationship was a [[CompressedVice single incident]] in "Somepony to Watch Over Me" where Applejack though that Apple Bloom needed to be kept safe, and so babied her to an absurd degree.
23rd Jan '16 6:10:47 AM hobbitguy1420
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* ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' used this between Jeannie and her wicked sister, also named Jeannie. Arguably, the pretty one (the blonde Jeannie) is the sympathetic one, and the smart one (the dark-haired Jeannie) is an evil, bitter shrew. The blonde Jeannie may have been less knowing of the modern world, but she does have the excuse of being trapped in a bottle for two milleniums, mind you.

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* ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' used this between Jeannie and her wicked sister, also named Jeannie. Arguably, the pretty one (the blonde Jeannie) is the sympathetic one, and the smart one (the dark-haired Jeannie) is an evil, bitter shrew. The blonde Jeannie may have been less knowing of the modern world, but she does have the excuse of being trapped in a bottle for two milleniums, millennia, mind you.
21st Jan '16 7:17:38 PM nombretomado
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* StephenColbert references this trope in ''Literature/IAmAmericaAndSoCanYou'', in the chapter about family (which is appropriately [[DysfunctionalFamily fraught with]] [[StepfordSuburbia distressing subtext about the nuclear American family]]). Discussing non-immediate relatives, it tells you to find out more about your aunt by determining whether your mother was "the one who 'got the looks' or the one who 'got the brains.' Either way, she resents your aunt for getting the other one!"

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* StephenColbert Creator/StephenColbert references this trope in ''Literature/IAmAmericaAndSoCanYou'', in the chapter about family (which is appropriately [[DysfunctionalFamily fraught with]] [[StepfordSuburbia distressing subtext about the nuclear American family]]). Discussing non-immediate relatives, it tells you to find out more about your aunt by determining whether your mother was "the one who 'got the looks' or the one who 'got the brains.' Either way, she resents your aunt for getting the other one!"
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