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18th Jun '16 11:01:11 AM Morgenthaler
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** Of course, this causes one to wonder why the Federation didn't use their holodecks to "Create an adversary capable of defeating our current enemy", since the holodeck must have that kind of magic power.
*** It probably helped that they were telling one absurdly advanced computer to out-think another computer.
** Also, the Federation in general doesn't want holograms to be that intelligent. Moriarty didn't just disappear after Data finally conceded defeat, remember--Moriarty was now sentient, with his own agenda, and it went far beyond Data.
** The discovery that any decent holodeck can effortlessly create a sentient AI renders the irreproducibility of Dr. Soong's positronic brain technology basically irrelevent, but this is never addressed.

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** Of course, this causes one to wonder why the Federation didn't use their holodecks to "Create an adversary capable of defeating our current enemy", since the holodeck must have that kind of magic power.
*** It probably helped that they were telling one absurdly advanced computer to out-think another computer.
** Also, the Federation in general doesn't want holograms to be that intelligent. Moriarty didn't just disappear after Data finally conceded defeat, remember--Moriarty was now sentient, with his own agenda, and it went far beyond Data.
** The discovery that any decent holodeck can effortlessly create a sentient AI renders the irreproducibility of Dr. Soong's positronic brain technology basically irrelevent, but this is never addressed.
18th Jun '16 1:09:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* A good way to turn your AI evil is to give it poorly-phrased orders.
* Great fun to be had by having your RobotBuddy draw its weapon when you prompt it to proceed with its question by saying, "Shoot."
* To make this plot work, you will sometimes have to use an UnusualEuphemism, such as exasperatedly telling your RobotBuddy to "Go jump off a cliff."

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18th Jun '16 1:08:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* The plot of the movie ''Film/SpaceCamp'' is jumpstarted when Max wishes he could go into space within earshot of the robot Jinx. Jinx helpfully triggers a launch of the shuttle while Max is onboard.
** More accurately, Jinx (having run a simulation that indicates a 4.9 million year wait for the specific accident he wants) engineers the fatal shuttle accident that forces Mission Control to launch the shuttle by activating its booster rockets (Jinx ignited a single booster rocket, which would have flipped the shuttle right into a nosedive).

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* The plot of the movie ''Film/SpaceCamp'' is jumpstarted when Max wishes he could go into space within earshot of the robot Jinx. Jinx helpfully triggers a launch of the shuttle while Max is onboard.
** More accurately, Jinx
The robot (having run a simulation that indicates a 4.9 million year wait for the specific accident he wants) engineers the fatal shuttle accident that forces Mission Control to launch the shuttle by activating its booster rockets (Jinx ignited a single booster rocket, which would have flipped the shuttle right into a nosedive).
18th Jun '16 1:08:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* The plot of the movie ''Space Camp'' is jumpstarted when Max wishes he could go into space within earshot of the robot Jinx. Jinx helpfully triggers a launch of the shuttle while Max is onboard.

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* The plot of the movie ''Space Camp'' ''Film/SpaceCamp'' is jumpstarted when Max wishes he could go into space within earshot of the robot Jinx. Jinx helpfully triggers a launch of the shuttle while Max is onboard.
18th Jun '16 1:07:27 AM Morgenthaler
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6th May '16 6:38:07 AM Aspr3
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* In Creator/TerryPratchett's book ''Strata'', a genie appears. Weather it is a machine or not is open to interpretation.
3rd Apr '16 10:36:18 AM luiz4200
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstoneKids'': In "Philo's D-Feat", Philo makes a robot that, when given commands, it either obeys them the literal way or explains that it can't be done. When Philo says "make my bed", the robot makes a new bed that looks like the bed Philo already had. When Rocky Ratrock commands the robot to shoplift, it literally lifts a shop.
25th Jan '16 9:39:17 PM gemmabeta2
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*** The author saw this as a good thing, because unlike some other stories where robots prevent humans from doing anything that might involve the slightest risk (eating fatty foods, working, etc.), these robots were smart enough and ethical enough to only justify taking action to stop the worst acts and make sure no human realizes the robots are in charge.

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*** The author saw this as a good thing, because unlike some other stories where robots prevent humans from doing anything that might involve the slightest risk (eating fatty foods, working, etc.), these robots were smart enough and ethical enough to only justify taking action to stop the worst acts and make sure no human realizes the robots are in charge.charge--indeed, until the Spacer Era, the worst thing a robot ever did to a human is to transfer a factory director to a slightly less prestigious posting.
27th Oct '15 2:03:05 PM margdean56
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*** The author saw this a good thing, because unlike some other stories where robots prevent humans from doing anything that might involve the slightest risk (eating fatty foods, working, etc.), these robots were smart enough and ethical enough to only justify taking action to stop the worst acts and make sure no human realizes the robots are in charge.

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*** The author saw this as a good thing, because unlike some other stories where robots prevent humans from doing anything that might involve the slightest risk (eating fatty foods, working, etc.), these robots were smart enough and ethical enough to only justify taking action to stop the worst acts and make sure no human realizes the robots are in charge.



*** Susan Calvin points out that advanced robots like Nestor possess a sort of subconscious superiority complex towards humans (they are stronger, tougher, faster, smarter, etc than us, but are bound to value our lives above their own and obey our every command). Messing with the safeguards that make them incapable of ever expressing this "feeling" in their actions (such as by effortlessly crushing a human skull with one hand) is one of the stupidest things a person could ever do in her opinion. In this case, the robot (though capable of understanding the nuance of the command to "get lost") decided to take it literally as a way of acting out against it's human masters. Their initial failures to identify it only serve to reinforce this "rebellious" line of thinking and Calvin warns everyone that the longer they take to resolve the situation, the more dangerous the robot could become.
** And the story about the mining robot who was supposed to be send offworld to Titan or somewhere, but its crate ended up on Earth, somewhere in the American mid-west. Being programmed for a different planetary environment, the robot went a little bit insane (while still following the three Laws of Robotics), and in an attempt to fulfill his programming ("use a laser drill to mine ore") it tried to build an industrial laser from whatever old stuff a farmer had lying around his shed.... and ended up building the world's first fully functional disintegration cannon ''run by a standard electric torch battery''. Unfortunately, shortly before the corporation managed to locate the robot (a nearby mountain peak suddenly ceasing to exist gave them a clue), the annoyed farmer gave the robot an instruction (along the lines of "oh, forget it") that resulted in the robot first destroying its "laser" and then itself, taking the secret with it. When the cyberneticists found out, they nearly lynched the farmer.

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*** Susan Calvin points out that advanced robots like Nestor possess a sort of subconscious superiority complex towards humans (they are stronger, tougher, faster, smarter, etc etc. than us, but are bound to value our lives above their own and obey our every command). Messing with the safeguards that make them incapable of ever expressing this "feeling" in their actions (such as by effortlessly crushing a human skull with one hand) is one of the stupidest things a person could ever do in her opinion. In this case, the robot (though capable of understanding the nuance of the command to "get lost") decided to take it literally as a way of acting out against it's its human masters. Their initial failures to identify it only serve to reinforce this "rebellious" line of thinking and Calvin warns everyone that the longer they take to resolve the situation, the more dangerous the robot could become.
** And the story about the mining robot who was supposed to be send sent offworld to Titan or somewhere, but its crate ended up on Earth, somewhere in the American mid-west. midwest. Being programmed for a different planetary environment, the robot went a little bit insane (while still following the three Laws of Robotics), and in an attempt to fulfill his its programming ("use a laser drill to mine ore") it tried to build an industrial laser from whatever old stuff a farmer had lying around his shed....shed ... and ended up building the world's first fully functional disintegration cannon ''run by a standard electric torch battery''. Unfortunately, shortly before the corporation managed to locate the robot (a nearby mountain peak suddenly ceasing to exist gave them a clue), the annoyed farmer gave the robot an instruction (along the lines of "oh, forget it") that resulted in the robot first destroying its "laser" and then itself, taking the secret with it. When the cyberneticists found out, they nearly lynched the farmer.



** The Three Laws work pretty much perfectly most of the time for keeping robots obedient and safe. It's just less sophisticated models don't understand nuance of instructions or human tone and more advanced robots are often stated to work by differentials between the laws, so when a low priority law (such as self-preservation) is in strong effect but a higher priority one is invoked to override it , the "stress" can cause unexpected behaviors. The predictable, safe, everyday functionings just don't make for interesting stories.

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** The Three Laws work pretty much perfectly most of the time for keeping robots obedient and safe. It's just that less sophisticated models don't understand nuance of instructions or human tone tone, and more advanced robots are often stated to work by differentials between the laws, so when a low priority law (such as self-preservation) is in strong effect but a higher priority one is invoked to override it , it, the "stress" can cause unexpected behaviors. The predictable, safe, everyday functionings just don't make for interesting stories.
25th Jun '15 6:04:48 PM nombretomado
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* On ''KnightRider'', KITT's EvilTwin, KARR, was ordered to defend itself, so it immediately locked itself down and refused to follow any other orders, since they might lead it to its destruction.

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* On ''KnightRider'', ''Series/KnightRider'', KITT's EvilTwin, KARR, was ordered to defend itself, so it immediately locked itself down and refused to follow any other orders, since they might lead it to its destruction.
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