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20th Jul '16 6:34:09 AM alnair20aug93
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According to nostalgic films set in this decade, back then everyone was a rich white person who wore {{Gorgeous Period Dress}}, with every lady wearing UsefulNotes/ArtNouveau inspired dresses with GiantPoofySleeves and carrying a ParasolOfPrettiness [[labelnote:Fashion tips]]Take note that the silhouette in this decade no longer used bustles. The exaggeration shifted from the backside to the shoulders, leaving the skirts undraped in an A-line form, and giving the silhouette an hourglass look. Any fashion historian will tell that the notion of everyone wearing bustles in the 1890s is like everyone wore [[TheEighties neon powersuits]] with [[ShouldersOfDoom gigantic shoulder pads]] in the [[TheNineties 1990s]].[[/labelnote]], and they all liked to hang out in ritzy places located in major U.S. cities (for [[BigApplesauce New York]], this was Delmonico's restaurant at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel). In fact, the "everybody's rich" stereotype stems from a conflation of this period with "TheGildedAge" (1876-1917), as the Gay Nineties were also marked by economic depression and much labor agitation (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1893 Panic of 1893]] on TheOtherWiki), not to mention the UsefulNotes/SpanishAmericanWar. Even then, the term "Gilded Age" (as in, "coated in gold") was specifically meant to indicate that the good times were only a surface veneer, with serious problems lurking just beneath (as the Gay Nineties themselves later demonstrated). If you can find the graphic history book, ''The Good Old Days: They Were Terrible!'', you can see a sobering look at the real grimy realities of the era. It was certainly grim if you weren't a well off white man in that time; racism was blatant and commonplace and had the backing of law with the Supreme Court ruling in ''Plessy vs. Ferguson'' that racial segregation was legal as long as it was "separate but equal", a condition which no civil government took seriously.

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According to nostalgic films set in this decade, back then everyone was a rich white person who wore {{Gorgeous Period Dress}}, Dress}}es, with every lady wearing UsefulNotes/ArtNouveau inspired dresses with GiantPoofySleeves and carrying a ParasolOfPrettiness [[labelnote:Fashion [[labelnote:fashion tips]]Take note that the silhouette fashions in this decade no longer used bustles. The exaggeration shifted from the backside to the shoulders, leaving the skirts undraped in an A-line form, and giving the silhouette an hourglass look. Any fashion historian will tell that the notion of everyone wearing bustles in the 1890s is like everyone wore [[TheEighties neon powersuits]] with [[ShouldersOfDoom gigantic shoulder pads]] in the [[TheNineties 1990s]].[[/labelnote]], and they all liked to hang out in ritzy places located in major U.S. cities (for [[BigApplesauce New York]], this was Delmonico's restaurant at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel). In fact, the "everybody's rich" stereotype stems from a conflation of this period with "TheGildedAge" (1876-1917), as the Gay Nineties were also marked by economic depression and much labor agitation (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1893 Panic of 1893]] on TheOtherWiki), not to mention the UsefulNotes/SpanishAmericanWar. Even then, the term "Gilded Age" (as in, "coated in gold") was specifically meant to indicate that the good times were only a surface veneer, with serious problems lurking just beneath (as the Gay Nineties themselves later demonstrated). If you can find the graphic history book, ''The Good Old Days: They Were Terrible!'', you can see a sobering look at the real grimy realities of the era. It was certainly grim if you weren't a well off white man in that time; racism was blatant and commonplace and had the backing of law with the Supreme Court ruling in ''Plessy vs. Ferguson'' that racial segregation was legal as long as it was "separate but equal", a condition which no civil government took seriously.
20th Jul '16 6:30:29 AM alnair20aug93
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According to nostalgic films set in this decade, back then everyone was a rich white person who wore {{Gorgeous Period Dress}}, with every lady wearing UsefulNotes/ArtNouveau inspired dresses with GiantPoofySleeves and carrying a ParasolOfPrettiness [[note]]Take note that the silhouette in this decade no longer used bustles. The exaggeration shifted from the backside to the shoulders, giving the skirts a flowy a-line shilhouette. Any fashion historian will tell that the notion that bustles were still worn in the 1890s is like wearing [[TheEighties a neon powersuit]] with [[ShouldersOfDoom gigantic shoulder pads]] [[TheNineties in 1996]].[[/note]], and they all liked to hang out in ritzy places located in major U.S. cities (for [[BigApplesauce New York]], this was Delmonico's restaurant at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel). In fact, the "everybody's rich" stereotype stems from a conflation of this period with "TheGildedAge" (1876-1917), as the Gay Nineties were also marked by economic depression and much labor agitation (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1893 Panic of 1893]] on TheOtherWiki), not to mention the UsefulNotes/SpanishAmericanWar. Even then, the term "Gilded Age" (as in, "coated in gold") was specifically meant to indicate that the good times were only a surface veneer, with serious problems lurking just beneath (as the Gay Nineties themselves later demonstrated). If you can find the graphic history book, ''The Good Old Days: They Were Terrible!'', you can see a sobering look at the real grimy realities of the era. It was certainly grim if you weren't a well off white man in that time; racism was blatant and commonplace and had the backing of law with the Supreme Court ruling in ''Plessy vs. Ferguson'' that racial segregation was legal as long as it was "separate but equal", a condition which no civil government took seriously.

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According to nostalgic films set in this decade, back then everyone was a rich white person who wore {{Gorgeous Period Dress}}, with every lady wearing UsefulNotes/ArtNouveau inspired dresses with GiantPoofySleeves and carrying a ParasolOfPrettiness [[note]]Take [[labelnote:Fashion tips]]Take note that the silhouette in this decade no longer used bustles. The exaggeration shifted from the backside to the shoulders, leaving the skirts undraped in an A-line form, and giving the skirts a flowy a-line shilhouette. silhouette an hourglass look. Any fashion historian will tell that the notion that of everyone wearing bustles were still worn in the 1890s is like wearing everyone wore [[TheEighties a neon powersuit]] powersuits]] with [[ShouldersOfDoom gigantic shoulder pads]] in the [[TheNineties in 1996]].[[/note]], 1990s]].[[/labelnote]], and they all liked to hang out in ritzy places located in major U.S. cities (for [[BigApplesauce New York]], this was Delmonico's restaurant at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel). In fact, the "everybody's rich" stereotype stems from a conflation of this period with "TheGildedAge" (1876-1917), as the Gay Nineties were also marked by economic depression and much labor agitation (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1893 Panic of 1893]] on TheOtherWiki), not to mention the UsefulNotes/SpanishAmericanWar. Even then, the term "Gilded Age" (as in, "coated in gold") was specifically meant to indicate that the good times were only a surface veneer, with serious problems lurking just beneath (as the Gay Nineties themselves later demonstrated). If you can find the graphic history book, ''The Good Old Days: They Were Terrible!'', you can see a sobering look at the real grimy realities of the era. It was certainly grim if you weren't a well off white man in that time; racism was blatant and commonplace and had the backing of law with the Supreme Court ruling in ''Plessy vs. Ferguson'' that racial segregation was legal as long as it was "separate but equal", a condition which no civil government took seriously.
18th May '16 9:03:25 PM PaulA
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* The 1964 musical ''Hello Dolly'', which was based on Thornton Wilder's ''The Matchmaker''.

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* The 1964 musical ''Hello Dolly'', ''Theatre/HelloDolly'', which was based on Thornton Wilder's Creator/ThorntonWilder's ''The Matchmaker''.
12th May '16 11:58:58 PM Ordinaryday
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As of September 2015, there are only two people alive born in this decade, both in 1899, so today there is basically no one left to be nostalgic about it. This is a ForgottenTrope and the fact that the name "Gay Nineties" was never changed should give you an idea [[OlderThanTelevision how long it's been dead]]. Of course, they still make films set in the 1890s, but the nostalgic version of the '30s and '40s is pretty much gone. In fact, some modern-day Hollywood writers seem to think ''any'' year not starting with "19" or "20" means "completely pre-industrial revolution". For example, see the entry on ''Film/TheVillage'' farther down this page. But as a result of today's general unfamiliarity with the period, works set in the 1880s or 1900s may make their setting indistinguishable from the stereotypical Gay Nineties.

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As of September 2015, May 2016, there are is only two people one person alive born in this decade, both in November 1899, so today there is basically no one left to be nostalgic about it. This is a ForgottenTrope and the fact that the name "Gay Nineties" was never changed should give you an idea [[OlderThanTelevision how long it's been dead]]. Of course, they still make films set in the 1890s, but the nostalgic version of the '30s and '40s is pretty much gone. In fact, some modern-day Hollywood writers seem to think ''any'' year not starting with "19" or "20" means "completely pre-industrial revolution". For example, see the entry on ''Film/TheVillage'' farther down this page. But as a result of today's general unfamiliarity with the period, works set in the 1880s or 1900s may make their setting indistinguishable from the stereotypical Gay Nineties.
17th Apr '16 7:42:56 AM ThatsNotFroot
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No, not the "gay" [[HaveAGayOldTime you were thinking of]], nor TheNineties you were thinking of for that matter. This trope doesn't refer to the decade of internet, floppy disks, flannel shirts, KurtCobain, Starbucks, ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', Rachel Green hair, [[MatingDance Lambada]], UsefulNotes/BillClinton, Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir, BeverlyHills90210, [=OJ=] Simpson, {{Pokemon}}, BritneySpears, SonicTheHedgehog, and Ford Explorers.

No, this trope covers depictions of the '''18'''90s, the realm of Creator/OscarWilde, William Jennings Bryan, UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle and the Gibson Girl.

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No, not the "gay" [[HaveAGayOldTime you were thinking of]], nor TheNineties you were thinking of for that matter. matter.

This trope doesn't refer to the decade of internet, floppy disks, flannel shirts, KurtCobain, Starbucks, ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', Rachel Green hair, [[MatingDance Lambada]], UsefulNotes/BillClinton, Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir, BeverlyHills90210, [=OJ=] Simpson, {{Pokemon}}, BritneySpears, SonicTheHedgehog, and Ford Explorers.

No, this
trope covers depictions of the '''18'''90s, the realm of Creator/OscarWilde, William Jennings Bryan, UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle and the Gibson Girl.
2nd Apr '16 7:26:36 PM Furienna
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* ''[[Literature/TheAnderssons "Siden, sammet, trasa, lump]]'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren takes place in 1899. It shows the time period mostly from a working class perspective, where even the children have to help out with making money for the family.

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* ''[[Literature/TheAnderssons "Siden, Siden, sammet, trasa, lump]]'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren takes place in 1899. It shows the time period mostly from a working class perspective, where even the children have to help out with making money for the family.
2nd Apr '16 7:25:32 PM Furienna
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* ''[[Literature/TheAnderssons "Siden, sammet, trasa, lump]'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren takes place in 1899. It shows the time period mostly from a working class perspective, where even the children have to help out with making money for the family.

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* ''[[Literature/TheAnderssons "Siden, sammet, trasa, lump]'' lump]]'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren takes place in 1899. It shows the time period mostly from a working class perspective, where even the children have to help out with making money for the family.
2nd Apr '16 7:21:47 PM Furienna
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* ''[[Literature/TheAnderssons "Siden, sammet, trasa, lump]'' by Solveig Olsson-Hultgren takes place in 1899. It shows the time period mostly from a working class perspective, where even the children have to help out with making money for the family.
7th Feb '16 3:51:33 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''MickeyMouse''' cartoon, "The Nifty Nineties" ([[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation 1941]])

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-->-- '''MickeyMouse''' cartoon, "The Nifty Nineties" ([[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation ([[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation 1941]])



** In fact, this was a highly popular setting for cartoons from every studio during TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. So much so, that by 1942 Creator/ChuckJones was able to create a brilliant parody of the subgenre with ''WesternAnimation/TheDoverBoys''. Ironically that cartoon is now probably [[WeirdAlEffect better known than any of the shorts it was spoofing]].

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** In fact, this was a highly popular setting for cartoons from every studio during TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation.UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. So much so, that by 1942 Creator/ChuckJones was able to create a brilliant parody of the subgenre with ''WesternAnimation/TheDoverBoys''. Ironically that cartoon is now probably [[WeirdAlEffect better known than any of the shorts it was spoofing]].
6th Jan '16 2:27:22 AM Fireblood
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Abroad, things were jumping internationally. In France, there was the Dreyfus Affair where Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish French Army officer, was made the scapegoat of a trumped up treason charge. The controversy tore apart France as conservatives and the Army stubbornly refused to have Dreyfus' case retried no matter how much evidence about his innocence piled up, citing the need to uphold the "Honor of the army" (Which apparently involved covering up and defending the lies enabling a blatant MiscarriageOfJustice). Meanwhile, Britain found itself in its own version of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar with UsefulNotes/TheSecondBoerWar in [[UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica Southern Africa]]. It proved a frustrating fight against a savvy, well armed and determined foe that finally required the British rounding up the civilian population in concentration camps to break the will of the enemy. At the same time, King Leopold II of Belgium was making a mint with his Congo Free State, a massive swath of Equatorial Africa as his personal property which was exploited to the hilt with ruthless colonial brutality enforcing his will, causing a death toll estimated to be 10 million Africans. It would inspire the Creator/JosephConrad novel, ''Literature/HeartOfDarkness'', in which there was a very good real life reason why Kurtz's last words were, "The horror... the horror..."

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Abroad, things were jumping internationally. In France, there was the Dreyfus Affair where Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish French Army officer, was made the scapegoat of a trumped up treason charge. The controversy tore apart France as conservatives and the Army stubbornly refused to have Dreyfus' case retried no matter how much evidence about his innocence piled up, citing the need to uphold the "Honor of the army" (Which (which apparently involved covering up and defending the lies enabling a blatant MiscarriageOfJustice). Meanwhile, Britain found itself in its own version of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar with UsefulNotes/TheSecondBoerWar in [[UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica Southern Africa]]. It proved a frustrating fight against a savvy, well armed and determined foe that finally required the British rounding up the civilian population in concentration camps to break the will of the enemy. At the same time, King Leopold II of Belgium was making a mint with his Congo Free State, a massive swath of Equatorial Africa as his personal property which was exploited to the hilt with ruthless colonial brutality enforcing his will, causing a death toll estimated to be 10 million Africans. It would inspire the Creator/JosephConrad novel, ''Literature/HeartOfDarkness'', in which there was a very good real life reason why Kurtz's last words were, "The horror... the horror..."



* Civic leaders (mayors, for the most part) [[AdiposeRex sporting huge guts]] and sideburns and wearing top hats and tuxedoes
* Aristocrats and the wealthy sporting monocles and acting in even ''more'' outdated fashion than the other anachronistic characters (and being accompanied by overdressed maids and butlers)
* Police officers still dressed like the "Bobbies" of the nineteenth century
* Political campaigners decked out in wide-striped suits and boater hats (although, to be sure, this continues to be TruthInTelevision)
* Women still attired in white gloves (whether wrist length or OperaGloves) and [[NiceHat fancy hats]] and carrying [[ParasolOfPrettiness parasols to protect their delicate skin from the sun]]
* Little boys pairing suit coats with short pants (think ComicBook/RichieRich or Angus Young of Music/{{ACDC}})

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* Civic leaders (mayors, for the most part) [[AdiposeRex sporting huge guts]] and sideburns and wearing top hats and tuxedoes
tuxedos.
* Aristocrats and the wealthy sporting monocles and acting in even ''more'' outdated fashion than the other anachronistic characters (and being accompanied by overdressed maids and butlers)
butlers).
* Police officers still dressed like the "Bobbies" of the nineteenth century
century.
* Political campaigners decked out in wide-striped suits and boater hats (although, to be sure, this continues to be TruthInTelevision)
TruthInTelevision).
* Women still attired in white gloves (whether wrist length or OperaGloves) and [[NiceHat fancy hats]] and carrying [[ParasolOfPrettiness parasols to protect their delicate skin from the sun]]
sun]].
* Little boys pairing suit coats with short pants (think ComicBook/RichieRich or Angus Young of Music/{{ACDC}})Music/{{ACDC}}).



* "Ethnic" whites (that is, anyone not at least 50 percent Anglo-Saxon) still speaking in their "just-off-the-boat" accents
* Nonwhites (the Chinese in particular, not so much black people) [[YouNoTakeCandle barely able to speak English at all]]

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* "Ethnic" whites (that is, anyone not at least 50 percent Anglo-Saxon) still speaking in their "just-off-the-boat" accents
accents.
* Nonwhites (the Chinese in particular, not so much black people) [[YouNoTakeCandle barely able to speak English at all]]all]].



* Pennyfarthings (those bicycles with the giant front wheel)

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* Pennyfarthings (those bicycles with the giant front wheel)wheel).



As of September 2015, there are only two people alive born in this decade both in 1899, so today there is basically no one left to be nostalgic about it. This is a ForgottenTrope and the fact that the name "Gay Nineties" was never changed should give you an idea [[OlderThanTelevision how long it's been dead]]. Of course, they still make films set in the 1890s, but the nostalgic version of the '30s and '40s is pretty much gone. In fact, some modern-day Hollywood writers seems to think ''any'' year not starting with "19" or "20" means "completely pre-industrial revolution". For example, see the entry on ''Film/TheVillage'' farther down this page. But as a result of today's general unfamiliarity with the period, works set in the 1880s or 1900s may make their setting indistinguishable from the stereotypical Gay Nineties.

to:

As of September 2015, there are only two people alive born in this decade decade, both in 1899, so today there is basically no one left to be nostalgic about it. This is a ForgottenTrope and the fact that the name "Gay Nineties" was never changed should give you an idea [[OlderThanTelevision how long it's been dead]]. Of course, they still make films set in the 1890s, but the nostalgic version of the '30s and '40s is pretty much gone. In fact, some modern-day Hollywood writers seems seem to think ''any'' year not starting with "19" or "20" means "completely pre-industrial revolution". For example, see the entry on ''Film/TheVillage'' farther down this page. But as a result of today's general unfamiliarity with the period, works set in the 1880s or 1900s may make their setting indistinguishable from the stereotypical Gay Nineties.



%%* ''Film/{{Newsies}}'' (1992)

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%%* * ''Film/{{Newsies}}'' (1992)(1992), centering around New York City's 1899 newsboys strike.
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