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15th Aug '17 8:57:57 AM zealots
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** Played with by WonderWoman in some ways. Her own moral code is just as stringent as Superman's or Batman's. Since ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', she is implicitly called a warrior it allows for killing to serve the greater good.

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** Played with by WonderWoman in some ways. Her own moral code is just as stringent as Superman's or Batman's. Since ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', she is implicitly called a warrior it allows for killing to serve the greater good. This difference is played for dramatic tension in the prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', where she is forced to [[ShootTheDog kill the villain Maxwell Lord]] and then condemned by both Superman and Batman for it.
15th Jul '17 1:22:42 PM nombretomado
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* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' is the embodiment of America's ideals and virtues, and has throughout his run has avoided killing whenever possible (well, there was a vampire that one time, but [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman he doesn't count]]). He's killed several times, but it's always been only when he has no choice, and causes much angst. During WorldWarII he did kill people, but he was a ''soldier'', and it's not something he boasts about. He also frets about damage to churches, and [[NiceToTheWaiter is very accommodating to accountants trying to total up superfight destruction]].

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* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' is the embodiment of America's ideals and virtues, and has throughout his run has avoided killing whenever possible (well, there was a vampire that one time, but [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman he doesn't count]]). He's killed several times, but it's always been only when he has no choice, and causes much angst. During WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII he did kill people, but he was a ''soldier'', and it's not something he boasts about. He also frets about damage to churches, and [[NiceToTheWaiter is very accommodating to accountants trying to total up superfight destruction]].
2nd Jun '17 7:51:36 PM LadyNorbert
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* Victoria, in ''[[Fanfic/TwiceUponAnAge All This Sh*t is Twice as Weird]]'', is much more this trope than her counterpart Mahanon. She's the AllLovingHero who wants what's best for everyone and tends to give people second chances they don't necessarily deserve.

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* Victoria, in ''[[Fanfic/TwiceUponAnAge All This Sh*t is Twice as Weird]]'', is much more this trope than her counterpart [[VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition fellow Inquisitor]] Mahanon. She's the AllLovingHero who wants what's best for everyone and tends to give people second chances they don't necessarily deserve.



* ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'' has Raspberyl and her GirlPosse Kyoko and Asuka, dedicated demon {{Delinquents}} who staunchly follow all the rules demons are ''supposed'' to break. They have to mantain their perfect attendence record, and have their own self-imposed curfew, which keeps them from joining your party full-time [[spoiler:until they graduate]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'' has Raspberyl and her GirlPosse Kyoko and Asuka, dedicated demon {{Delinquents}} who staunchly follow all the rules demons are ''supposed'' to break. They have to mantain maintain their perfect attendence attendance record, and have their own self-imposed curfew, which keeps them from joining your party full-time [[spoiler:until they graduate]].



** In the sequel games, [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII Hawke]] and [[VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition the Inquisitor]] can be played this way as well.
** Varric Tethras, narrator of the second game, has become this by the time of the third game. As the game unfolds, it becomes increasingly obvious that he is very weighed down by everything which has happened, and blames himself for far more than his fair share of the events. He takes some consolation from his assorted friendships, especially with his best friend Hawke, but it doesn't ease any of his fettered feeling.



* The Grey-beards and the Blades in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' are both examples of this, though they have very different goals. The Gray-beards dedicate their lives to the "Way of the Voice", meditating on the meaning of the Thu'um instead of actually using it to accomplish anything. Makes sense since the Way was created by Jurgen Windcaller, who lost the Battle of Red Mountain presumably because of the Nords' overreliance on the Voice, and is followed by [[spoiler:the dragon Paarthurnax, who has spent thousands of years repressing his innate desire to dominate others]], and the fact that the Thu'um is incredibly deadly to anyone without the power of the Voice. The Blades are dedicated to serving the Dragonborn and exterminating the Dragons, whom they see as AlwaysChaoticEvil [[spoiler:they're right too -- even the "good" dragon Paarthurnax they want you to kill says it's not a good idea to trust a Dragon]]. The Blades will actually cut off ties with you despite everything you've done for them [[spoiler:if you refuse to kill Paarthurnax]].

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* The Grey-beards Greybeards and the Blades in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' are both examples of this, though they have very different goals. The Gray-beards Greybeards dedicate their lives to the "Way of the Voice", meditating on the meaning of the Thu'um instead of actually using it to accomplish anything. Makes This makes sense since the Way was created by Jurgen Windcaller, who lost the Battle of Red Mountain presumably because of the Nords' overreliance over-reliance on the Voice, and is followed by [[spoiler:the dragon Paarthurnax, who has spent thousands of years repressing his innate desire to dominate others]], and the fact that the Thu'um is incredibly deadly to anyone without the power of the Voice. The Blades are dedicated to serving the Dragonborn and exterminating the Dragons, whom they see as AlwaysChaoticEvil [[spoiler:they're right too -- even the "good" dragon Paarthurnax they want you to kill says it's not a good idea to trust a Dragon]]. The Blades will actually cut off ties with you despite everything you've done for them [[spoiler:if you refuse to kill Paarthurnax]].
10th May '17 12:59:04 AM CountDorku
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* For a villainous example, ComicBook/DoctorDoom, in at least some portrayals (Doom has been written by ''everyone'' at one point or another, and [[DependingOnTheWriter all of them have different opinions on him]]). He wants to TakeOverTheWorld. Well, fine, so do a lot of villains. However, the NobleDemon interpretation of Doom wants to TakeOverTheWorld ''without'' going against his principles, which aren't ''exactly'' heroic but do have positive aspects: always repay a debt; always keep [[ExactWords the letter of your word]] (some versions also value the spirit); [[VillainousValour never exhibit cowardice]] (to the point of giving enemies weakened by another's actions time to recover); [[{{Determinator}} never back down]]; [[{{Revenge}} never accept an insult]]; [[{{Pride}} never humble yourself before another]]; [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething protect the people under your rule]]. The NobleDemon version of Doom will never explicitly break these, although he doesn't seem to mind bending them a bit (for example, when put in Spider-Man's debt, he "repays" it by ''not'' killing Spidey for insulting him thirty seconds later).
9th Apr '17 5:43:22 PM nombretomado
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* All the saints in ''SaintSeiya'' had a bit of this, but Shun by virtue of his pacifist ideology would go to the point of nearly becoming a MartyrWithoutACause on several occasions. However, he twice managed to bring about a MookFaceTurn by sheer conviction and kindness, at other times he did kill when forced to, and at times he had to be bailed out by his older brother for his pacifism. At one point he [[spoiler:held Hades, in DemonicPossession of his body, immobile thanks to the strength of his wish that his body not be used to harm others, allowing his brother a chance to kill Hades]]. Surprisingly, the Aesop managed all outcomes of his behaviour in the series, never outright making him a fool for his ideals.

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* All the saints in ''SaintSeiya'' ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' had a bit of this, but Shun by virtue of his pacifist ideology would go to the point of nearly becoming a MartyrWithoutACause on several occasions. However, he twice managed to bring about a MookFaceTurn by sheer conviction and kindness, at other times he did kill when forced to, and at times he had to be bailed out by his older brother for his pacifism. At one point he [[spoiler:held Hades, in DemonicPossession of his body, immobile thanks to the strength of his wish that his body not be used to harm others, allowing his brother a chance to kill Hades]]. Surprisingly, the Aesop managed all outcomes of his behaviour in the series, never outright making him a fool for his ideals.
6th Apr '17 9:27:41 PM nombretomado
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* ''PlanescapeTorment'':

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6th Apr '17 10:47:56 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': This is the main factor in making the Starks the most sympathetic Great House, since in the beginning they are utterly wedded to love, honour, and justice. White and grey are even their House colours.

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This is the main factor in making the Starks the most sympathetic Great House, since in the beginning they are utterly wedded to love, honour, and justice. White and grey are even their House colours.colours.
** A Stark in all but name, Jon Snow won't hurt an innocent in cold blood. This blows his cover when the Wildlings force Jon to kill an old man to test his allegiance.
5th Apr '17 6:01:25 PM Shishkahuben
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--> '''Rorschach:''' ''Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon.''
17th Mar '17 11:57:36 AM eowynjedi
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'''s Federation in general adheres to this trope, as do most of the main characters. Picard is probably the best example, and also provides the show's most direct reference to this philosophy when Q refers to human nobility as a weakness, to which Picard replies, "On the contrary, it is a strength."

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'''s ''Franchise/StarTrek''
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Federation in general adheres to this trope, as do most of the main characters. Picard is probably the best example, and also provides the show's most direct reference to this philosophy when Q refers to human nobility as a weakness, to which Picard replies, "On the contrary, it is a strength.""
** The Vulcans. In present times, they are tranquil scholars who go through elaborate mental disciplines to keep themselves from feeling emotion. Although they're too often written as [[StrawVulcan a bunch of sticks-in-the-mud who need to loosen up]], there are several episodes across the canon which demonstrate how ''necessary'' their emotional suppression and purgative meditation is. Spock has been known to crumple steel with one fist and Tuvok once gave a psychic anger junkie ''way'' more than he ever bargained for when he demanded to see what was under that stoicism. Even ''Enterprise'', which was widely criticized for its {{Straw Vulcan}}s, showed a subset of emotion-embracing Vulcans as dangerously misguided. It's noted that their history is even worse than humanity's, and when you think of some of the things humans have done to each other over the century, it's easy to see why Vulcans go to such lengths to keep it from happening again.
15th Mar '17 6:19:54 PM nombretomado
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* MSFHighForum: Israfel, due to his code of honor. This is on purpose, to make up for an attempt to become the Ubermensch.

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* MSFHighForum: ''Roleplay/MSFHighForum'': Israfel, due to his code of honor. This is on purpose, to make up for an attempt to become the Ubermensch.
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