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30th Apr '18 6:42:30 AM Argon2
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** Amusingly, though, this whole debacle has become something of an AscendedMeme that even the ''Franchise/StarWars'' creators are willing to joke about:

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** Amusingly, though, this the whole debacle has become something of an AscendedMeme that even the ''Franchise/StarWars'' creators are willing to joke about:
24th Mar '18 4:07:50 AM jormis29
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*** In the ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront'' spinoff ''Renegade Squadron'', the narrator (Squadron leader Col Serra) comments "Han may not like to shoot first when it came to bounty hunters but we didn't share that opinion" when they encounter IG-88 on Ord Mantell.

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*** In the ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront'' spinoff ''Renegade Squadron'', ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontRenegadeSquadron'', the narrator (Squadron leader Col Serra) comments "Han may not like to shoot first when it came to bounty hunters but we didn't share that opinion" when they encounter IG-88 on Ord Mantell.
28th Feb '18 4:06:22 PM TheMountainKing
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Sometimes this trope comes into play without ExecutiveMeddling. The writer assumes that the audience will lose sympathy with a hero who kills preemptively (and in some case might be accurate, ''if'' the audience feels the hero was portrayed in a way that such an action would still be against that character).

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Sometimes this trope comes into play without ExecutiveMeddling. The writer assumes that the audience will lose sympathy with a hero who kills preemptively (and in some case might be accurate, ''if'' the audience feels the hero was portrayed in a way that such an action would still be against that character).
28th Feb '18 1:24:54 PM TheMountainKing
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* In ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', Batman is holding a gun to the head of the BigBad who has caused destruction and murder on a cosmic scale though Wonder Woman convinces him IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim. In the original release of the issue, one panel has a "CHAK" sound effect to indicate Batman chambering a round. Several fans assumed the effect indicated Batman was pulling the trigger and the villain only survived because of an empty gun, causing a small uproar. For the trade, DC opted to remove the "CHAK" entirely to avoid the confusion.
28th Feb '18 1:22:53 PM TheMountainKing
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* In ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', Batman is holding a gun to the head of the BigBad who has caused destruction and murder on a cosmic scale though Wonder Woman convinces him IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim. In the original release of the issue, one panel has a "CHAK" sound effect to indicate Batman chambering a round. Several fans assumed the effect indicated Batman was pulling the trigger and the villain only survived because of an empty gun, causing a small uproar. For the trade, DC opted to remove the "CHAK" entirely to avoid the confusion.
18th Feb '18 9:19:48 AM Medinoc
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** An in-universe example happens in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' where Rey and the audience initially believed that Kylo Ren has betrayed Luke and destroyed the Jedi order due to wanting to embrace the Dark Side. That is until Kylo revealed that he betrayed Luke because Luke attacked him first and when Rey confronts the latter over it, he admits to doing it where he sense a great darkness within him and tries to kill him in sleep only for Kylo to woke up and felt betrayed over it and decides to destroy him and the whole Jedi order which ultimately kick-starts the entire plot of the sequel trilogy.
* It's even older than ''Star Wars,'' as it also features in the first ''Film/JamesBond'' film, ''Film/DrNo''. In it, Bond confronts Professor Dent. The original script called for Dent to get shot right off the bat, but execs chewed them out ("Oh, sure he has a license to kill. Just TakeOurWordForIt!") and the scene was changed so that Dent actually fires a gun's worth of missed bullets into a decoy before Bond interrogates him and picks him off. One snafu with this is that they took a line verbatim from the book for the new version of the scene, even though it made no sense anymore (in the book, the scene relied on Dent using a six-shot revolver; in the movie, he now has an automatic that should have held at least one more bullet).

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** An in-universe example happens in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' where Rey and the audience initially believed that Kylo Ren has betrayed Luke and destroyed the Jedi order due to wanting to embrace the Dark Side. That is until Kylo revealed that he betrayed Luke because Luke attacked him first and when first. When Rey confronts the latter over it, he admits to ''almost'' doing it where he sense sensed a great darkness within him and tries to kill contemplated killing him in sleep his sleep, lightsaber drawn... In Luke's flashback he catches himself in time, only for Kylo to woke up and felt betrayed wake up, see Luke's lightsaber over it him, and decides to destroy him and the whole Jedi order which ultimately kick-starts the entire plot of the sequel trilogy.
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* It's even older than ''Star Wars,'' Wars'', as it also features in the first ''Film/JamesBond'' film, ''Film/DrNo''. In it, Bond confronts Professor Dent. The original script called for Dent to get shot right off the bat, but execs chewed them out ("Oh, sure he has a license to kill. Just TakeOurWordForIt!") and the scene was changed so that Dent actually fires a gun's worth of missed bullets into a decoy before Bond interrogates him and picks him off. One snafu with this is that they took a line verbatim from the book for the new version of the scene, even though it made no sense anymore (in the book, the scene relied on Dent using a six-shot revolver; in the movie, he now has an automatic that should have held at least one more bullet).
7th Feb '18 4:57:02 AM Smeagol17
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* Happens in episode 23 of ''Anime/CrossAnge'': Ange, after refusing to help the citizens who are still hostile towards her, [[BoomHeadshot shoots]] the one who has a shotgun pointed in her direction before he even gets a chance to shoot. Lest we forget, these people were screaming for her death half a season earlier and were pinning the loss of Mana on her.
7th Jan '18 3:29:39 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In the ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #121, thanks to the much-debated "Snap!" sound-effect, it appears as if {{Spider-Man}} accidentally killed Gwen Stacy when she was falling by snapping her neck because he failed to properly consider the effect of snagging a person falling from a great height with his web and just holding fast. Unsatisfied with the explantion that the Green Goblin, the villain who pushed Gwen of the bridge, was obviously the man responsible for her death in any case, fans and Marvel creators endlessly continued to discuss two explanations that would leave Spider-Man not even be technically [[ILetGwenStacyDie (co-)responsible for the killing of his girlfriend]]. One was that either Spider-man couldn't have saved her no matter what he did, that she would have died from the fall anyway, but unfortunately that was somewhat exploded by the fact that not only did Spider-Man prove able to save Gwen's life in a ''What If'' story, but he also managed to save other people from near-identical situations in the mainstream reality. The other possible explanation used is that Gwen was already dead when her body was thrown off of a bridge. This can be seen as consistent with the evidence of ASM #121, where Gwen shows no sign of consciousness (or life?) from the beginning of the entire scene on the bridge.

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* In the ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #121, thanks to the much-debated "Snap!" sound-effect, it appears as if {{Spider-Man}} Franchise/SpiderMan accidentally killed Gwen Stacy when she was falling by snapping her neck because he failed to properly consider the effect of snagging a person falling from a great height with his web and just holding fast. Unsatisfied with the explantion that the Green Goblin, the villain who pushed Gwen of the bridge, was obviously the man responsible for her death in any case, fans and Marvel creators endlessly continued to discuss two explanations that would leave Spider-Man not even be technically [[ILetGwenStacyDie (co-)responsible for the killing of his girlfriend]]. One was that either Spider-man couldn't have saved her no matter what he did, that she would have died from the fall anyway, but unfortunately that was somewhat exploded by the fact that not only did Spider-Man prove able to save Gwen's life in a ''What If'' story, but he also managed to save other people from near-identical situations in the mainstream reality. The other possible explanation used is that Gwen was already dead when her body was thrown off of a bridge. This can be seen as consistent with the evidence of ASM #121, where Gwen shows no sign of consciousness (or life?) from the beginning of the entire scene on the bridge.
5th Jan '18 7:55:51 PM infernape612
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* In a scene in ''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue'', Carter has a monster at his mercy with two BFGs pressed against its' chest, but can't simply execute him and turns away (Odd, considering "weaken the monster and then destroy it when it's at your mercy" is a pretty standard PowerRangers MO). He turns away, and of course the monster attacks and he whirls around and blasts it. In the corresponding scene in ''Series/KyukyuSentaiGoGoV'', Matoi simply shoots the monster.

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* In a scene in ''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue'', Carter has a monster at his mercy with two BFGs {{BFG}}s pressed against its' its chest, but can't simply execute him and turns away (Odd, (odd, considering "weaken the monster and then destroy it when it's at your mercy" is a pretty standard PowerRangers MO). He turns away, and of course the monster attacks and he whirls around and blasts it. In the corresponding scene in ''Series/KyukyuSentaiGoGoV'', Matoi simply shoots the monster.
1st Jan '18 11:12:58 AM nombretomado
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*** HarrisonFord also gave another hilarious moment in a [[TheComicallySerious comically serious]] kind of way when asked who shot first: "I don't know and don't care".

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*** HarrisonFord Harrison Ford also gave another hilarious moment in a [[TheComicallySerious comically serious]] kind of way when asked who shot first: "I don't know and don't care".
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