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27th Sep '17 6:00:54 PM MetaFour
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For other ways to accomplish something unpleasant while keeping the hero's hands clean, see BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork or PoisonousFriend.
10th Aug '17 8:36:22 AM xcountryguy
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** In Elektra's case; she is [[spoiler: arguably the BigBad, with an EvilPlan to cause a nuclear explosion that would destroy Istanbul just so she could make more money. He also didn't shoot her until she started to warn Renard that he was coming, making it practical and necessary.]]
** The new Bond movies with Creator/DanielCraig portray Bond as almost ''ruthlessly'' cold-blooded. From the beginning of ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' when he shoots an unarmed spy without even blinking to the end of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' when [[spoiler: he takes BigBad Greene out into the desert after interrogating him and gives him a can of motor oil before leaving him miles upon miles from any sort of water source]], it's clear that this Bond has his license to kill and he's ''not'' afraid to use it. A lot.

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** In Elektra's case; she is [[spoiler: arguably [[spoiler:arguably the BigBad, with an EvilPlan to cause a nuclear explosion that would destroy Istanbul just so she could make more money. He also didn't shoot her until she started to warn Renard that he was coming, making it practical and necessary.]]
** The new Bond movies with Creator/DanielCraig portray Bond as almost ''ruthlessly'' cold-blooded. From the beginning of ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' when he shoots an unarmed spy without even blinking to the end of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' when [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he takes BigBad Greene out into the desert after interrogating him and gives him a can of motor oil before leaving him miles upon miles from any sort of water source]], it's clear that this Bond has his license to kill and he's ''not'' afraid to use it. A lot.



* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has this in the ''Heavensward'' storyline, which flips the entire plot on its head once the truth is revealed. For over a thousand years, the people of Ishgard knew the story of how man and dragon used to be at peace with each other until a war broke out between them with history stating that the dragons struck first. [[spoiler: In actuality, King Thordan and his twelve knights were the ones who struck first by slaying a dragon and eating her eyes to obtain power. The brother to the slain dragon managed to kill more than half of the knights and Thordan himself until one of the dragon's eyes was ripped out of his skull, forcing him to retreat. The truth about the war was kept secret for many generations in order to keep the citizens' faith in the church in high spirits and control them with fear.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has this in the ''Heavensward'' storyline, which flips the entire plot on its head once the truth is revealed. For over a thousand years, the people of Ishgard knew the story of how man and dragon used to be at peace with each other until a war broke out between them with history stating that the dragons struck first. [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In actuality, King Thordan and his twelve knights were the ones who struck first by slaying a dragon and eating her eyes to obtain power. The brother to the slain dragon managed to kill more than half of the knights and Thordan himself until one of the dragon's eyes was ripped out of his skull, forcing him to retreat. The truth about the war was kept secret for many generations in order to keep the citizens' faith in the church in high spirits and control them with fear.]]
19th Jul '17 12:12:04 AM immortalfrieza
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** Becomes a running gag quickly. Han ''always'' shoots first, even when the targets aren't a threat or it's a hopeless fight, to the point other players complain about it.
-->'''Princess''': Han, STOP shooting first!
26th Jun '17 12:42:00 AM Jokubas
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** According to all the information found within [=WoW=] and the official site, the Stormpike dwarves went into Alterac Valley, disregarded pleas to go away and started digging the local orcs' graveyards for archeological treasures, which spawns a small war in the area. Once again, the RPG books try to make the Alliance seem less grey-moraled by saying the Stormpikes have lived practically three miles away for hundreds of years or something like that and the Frostwolf clan (who are typically portrayed by Blizzard as quite peaceful) invaded for [[ForTheEvulz no apparent reason]]. Thankfully this is [[CanonDiscontinuity ignored]] in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''.

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** According to all the information found within [=WoW=] and the official site, the Stormpike dwarves went into Alterac Valley, disregarded pleas to go away and started digging the local orcs' graveyards for archeological treasures, which spawns a small war in the area. Once again, the The RPG books try book tries to make the Alliance seem less grey-moraled this BlackAndWhiteMorality by saying the Stormpikes have lived practically three miles away for hundreds of years or something like that and the Frostwolf clan (who are typically portrayed by Blizzard as quite peaceful) invaded for [[ForTheEvulz no apparent reason]]. Thankfully In this is [[CanonDiscontinuity ignored]] in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''.case, no explanation really makes sense. It seems that the orcs (who have only been on the planet for a couple of decades at that point), settled an area that was ''once'' dwarven, but abandoned for quite some time, only for the dwarves to return after it had been resettled and expecting to have a claim. The thing is, while it's out of character for the Frostwolves to invade an ancestral area, it was equally out of character for the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Ironforge Dwarves]] to start such a needless war (that was more of a Dark Iron thing).
11th Jun '17 8:12:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''CriticalMiss'' does [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8205-GREEDo-Shoots-First its own version]].

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* ''CriticalMiss'' ''Webcomic/CriticalMiss'' does [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8205-GREEDo-Shoots-First its own version]].



* ''{{Spacetrawler}}'': [[http://spacetrawler.com/2011/12/18/spacetrawler4sdgr/ This page.]]

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* ''{{Spacetrawler}}'': ''Webcomic/{{Spacetrawler}}'': [[http://spacetrawler.com/2011/12/18/spacetrawler4sdgr/ This page.]]
16th Apr '17 7:03:23 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in ''StarTrekNewFrontier''. Makkenzie Callhoun wants to kill some guy as revenge, but being a Starfleet officer, he cannot shoot first. So he outright PROVOKES the guy into trying to kill him, so he can kill the guy in self-defense.

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* Subverted in ''StarTrekNewFrontier''.''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier''. Makkenzie Callhoun wants to kill some guy as revenge, but being a Starfleet officer, he cannot shoot first. So he outright PROVOKES the guy into trying to kill him, so he can kill the guy in self-defense.
11th Apr '17 12:16:34 AM infernape612
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* In ''InfiniteCrisis'', Batman is holding a gun to the head of the BigBad who has caused destruction and murder on a cosmic scale though Wonder Woman convinces him IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim. In the original release of the issue, one panel has a "CHAK" sound effect to indicate Batman chambering a round. Several fans assumed the effect indicated Batman was pulling the trigger and the villain only survived because of an empty gun, causing a small uproar. For the trade, DC opted to remove the "CHAK" entirely to avoid the confusion.

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* In ''InfiniteCrisis'', ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', Batman is holding a gun to the head of the BigBad who has caused destruction and murder on a cosmic scale though Wonder Woman convinces him IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim. In the original release of the issue, one panel has a "CHAK" sound effect to indicate Batman chambering a round. Several fans assumed the effect indicated Batman was pulling the trigger and the villain only survived because of an empty gun, causing a small uproar. For the trade, DC opted to remove the "CHAK" entirely to avoid the confusion.



** Han has no problem shooting first in ''TheEmpireStrikesBack'' when Lando reveals his deal is with Darth Vader. While everyone stares in stunned silence, Han draws his blaster and empties his power cell in Vader's face. Not that it helps any because of Vader's force powers, but hey, points given for doing the [[CombatPragmatist logical thing]] in that situation.

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** Han has no problem shooting first in ''TheEmpireStrikesBack'' ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' when Lando reveals his deal is with Darth Vader. While everyone stares in stunned silence, Han draws his blaster and empties his power cell in Vader's face. Not that it helps any because of Vader's force powers, but hey, points given for doing the [[CombatPragmatist logical thing]] in that situation.



** The trope is inverted in the video game adaption of ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. In the original movie, during the fateful confrontation between Anakin Skywalker, Mace Windu, and Chancellor Palpatine in the Chancellor's office, when Windu corners and prepares to execute Palpatine, Anakin panics and severs his arm, allowing Palpatine to electrocute him with Force Lightning and send him flying out of a window to his death. In the game, however, Anakin blocks his strike, and the two have a protracted lightsaber duel which ends with Anakin impaling Windu in the chest and pushing him out the window himself.



--->'''Elektra''':You couldn't kill me, you'd miss me. (bang)\\

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--->'''Elektra''':You --->'''Elektra''': You couldn't kill me, you'd miss me. (bang)\\''[bang]''\\
8th Apr '17 12:21:53 PM nombretomado
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*** Peter Mayhew, the actor who plays Chewbacca, did get a CrowningMomentOfFunny out of the situation during an Ask Me Anything session with {{Reddit}} users. When they asked him to say what really happened during that scene, his response was (this is an almost-direct quote) "[[TheUnintelligible uughghhhgh uughghhhgh huuguughghg]]."

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*** Peter Mayhew, the actor who plays Chewbacca, did get a CrowningMomentOfFunny out of the situation during an Ask Me Anything session with {{Reddit}} {{Website/Reddit}} users. When they asked him to say what really happened during that scene, his response was (this is an almost-direct quote) "[[TheUnintelligible uughghhhgh uughghhhgh huuguughghg]]."
3rd Apr '17 5:44:55 PM nombretomado
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* The 2011 ''HunterXHunter'' anime [[ButNotTooEvil does this with a villain]]. In the manga, Hisoka kills several Hunter Exam competitors, mostly ForTheLulz ("playing examiner"). In this version, they ambush him because they deem him too evil to become a Hunter. He still mostly kills them ForTheLulz, though; they couldn't have actually harmed him much, given how powerful he is.

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* The 2011 ''HunterXHunter'' ''Anime/HunterXHunter'' anime [[ButNotTooEvil does this with a villain]]. In the manga, Hisoka kills several Hunter Exam competitors, mostly ForTheLulz ("playing examiner"). In this version, they ambush him because they deem him too evil to become a Hunter. He still mostly kills them ForTheLulz, though; they couldn't have actually harmed him much, given how powerful he is.
23rd Feb '17 12:09:16 AM erforce
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* ''LayerCake'' has this between the book and film in the protagonist's assassination of his treacherous boss. In the book, he first messily [[KickTheDog kills the guy's guard dogs]] and then shoots him in the head a few times for the fun of it. In the movie, the dogs live and the assassination is a single neat and bloodless shot to the head. Admittedly, the latter is [[RuleOfCool presented in a pretty cool way]].

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* ''LayerCake'' ''Literature/LayerCake'' has this between the book and film [[Film/LayerCake film]] in the protagonist's assassination of his treacherous boss. In the book, he first messily [[KickTheDog kills the guy's guard dogs]] and then shoots him in the head a few times for the fun of it. In the movie, the dogs live and the assassination is a single neat and bloodless shot to the head. Admittedly, the latter is [[RuleOfCool presented in a pretty cool way]].
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