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23rd May '17 12:48:50 PM MCanter89
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* In Webcomic/KillLaKillAU, ''Room 002108'', we have this with Ryuuko's illness, then again, she was mentioned be hospitalized for tests, in which case, this may be justified in that what she has is unknown (to both the reader and anyone that isn't hospital staff). However, it is subverted when Nonon (called Nonie) tries avoid saying the taboo word which is, true to the trope, cancer and that, when she said it, it was treated as though she had said a swear or uttering it could be TemptingFate, but mentions that may be what Ryuuko has and as to why she was hospitalized "for tests". Earlier, this was also averted when it was stated Satsuki was severely ill with [[spoiler: tuberculosis]].

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* In Webcomic/KillLaKillAU, ''Room 002108'', we have this with Ryuuko's illness, then again, she was mentioned be hospitalized for tests, in which case, this may be justified in that what she has is unknown (to both the reader and anyone that isn't hospital staff). However, it is subverted when Nonon (called Nonie) tries avoid saying the taboo word which is, true to the trope, cancer and that, when she said it, it was treated as though she had said a swear or uttering it could be TemptingFate, but mentions that may be what Ryuuko has and as to why she was hospitalized "for tests". Earlier, this was also averted when it was stated Satsuki was severely ill with [[spoiler: tuberculosis]].[[spoiler:tuberculosis]].



* Also averted with ''Endless Numbered Days'' and Satsuki being ill with [[spoiler: lung cancer, which later on progresses to terminal]]

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* Also averted with ''Endless Numbered Days'' and Satsuki being ill with [[spoiler: lung [[spoiler:lung cancer, which later on progresses to terminal]]terminal]].



** This may have something to do with the fact that John Wayne himself had previously struggled with lung cancer and done several PSAs about the disease. He would be diagnosed with stomach cancer shortly after the movie's release; this would be his last film.

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** This may have something to do with the fact that John Wayne himself had previously struggled with lung cancer and done several PSAs [=PSAs=] about the disease. He would be diagnosed with stomach cancer shortly after the movie's release; this would be his last film.



* Oddly inverted, along with just about everything else, in ''Film/TheRoom''. Lisa's mother says off-handedly that "The tests came back. I definitely have cancer." Setting it up as a possible plot point. However, it is never mentioned again and Lisa herself doesn't seem particularly affected by the news.

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* Oddly inverted, along with just about everything else, in ''Film/TheRoom''. Lisa's mother says off-handedly that "The tests came "I got the results of the test back. I definitely have breast cancer." Setting it up as a possible plot point. However, it is never mentioned again again, and Lisa herself doesn't seem particularly affected by the news.



* Averted in ''Theatre/{{RENT}}'', where characters that have AIDS are pretty frank about it. In the film version, however, Roger and Mimi recognize each other's affliction through the medication without mentioning the name of the disease - though it's still averted in the case of Angel and Collins, who speak about it frankly and by name.

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* Averted in ''Theatre/{{RENT}}'', where characters that have AIDS are pretty frank about it. In the film version, however, Roger and Mimi recognize each other's affliction through the medication without mentioning the name of the disease - -- though it's still averted in the case of Angel and Collins, who speak about it frankly and by name.



* ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'' - Bob tells Tina to keep quiet about an insurance scam, pointing out that Linda (his wife) can't keep a secret - cut to the two of them entering a cocktail party and Linda cheerfully shouting "Hi, sorry we're late, Bob had diarrhea!"

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* ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'' - -- Bob tells Tina to keep quiet about an insurance scam, pointing out that Linda (his wife) can't keep a secret - -- cut to the two of them entering a cocktail party and Linda cheerfully shouting "Hi, sorry we're late, Bob had diarrhea!"



28th Apr '17 10:58:39 AM FF32
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* On ''Revolution'' episode Captain Trips, Rachel is listing off diseases that the patients have other than the manufactured one they're all suffering from, and in a real sign of what's accepted in modern society versus what's still not, she says in a normal voice that two of them have Bipolar and Epilepsy, but whispers when she says that the third woman is an Alcoholic.

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* On ''Revolution'' ''Series/{{Revolution}}'' episode Captain Trips, Rachel is listing off diseases that the patients have other than the manufactured one they're all suffering from, and in a real sign of what's accepted in modern society versus what's still not, she says in a normal voice that two of them have Bipolar and Epilepsy, but whispers when she says that the third woman is an Alcoholic.
18th Apr '17 11:48:32 AM Xtifr
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* Deliberately averted by NormanSpinrad in "Carcinoma Angels". The original publication in Literature/DangerousVisions was introduced with "This is a very funny story about cancer", and the writer's end note deliberately kept saying "cancer" in the course of railing against this trope.

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* Deliberately averted by NormanSpinrad Creator/NormanSpinrad in "Carcinoma Angels". The original publication in Literature/DangerousVisions was introduced with "This is a very funny story about cancer", and the writer's end note deliberately kept saying "cancer" in the course of railing against this trope.
1st Apr '17 9:53:45 AM Katsuhagi
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* In ''{{Literature/Rubyfruit Jungle}}'' Molly's adopted mother Carrie bluntly points out that her husband Carl contracted syphilis while sleeping around behind her back.
12th Mar '17 8:29:02 AM jamespolk
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* ''Film/MyCousinRachel'': Ambrose's father died of a tumor in the brain, and Rachel and Guido attribute both Ambrose's death and the terrifying letters he sent to Phillip to a tumor in his brain that affected his mental state. The word "cancer" is not used.
26th Jan '17 7:09:47 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* {{Trainspotting}}: Tommy has "the virus" but never knew he'd gone "full-blown". He officially died of toxoplasmosis, an opportunistic infection that attacks immuno-compromised people. Renton had to get tested for something that he may have also contracted, but fortunately for him his test came up negative. Clearly his disease was AIDS but it's never used in direct reference to him. The HIV virus is brought up during Renton's GoingColdTurkey nightmare, but at no point in the film is it stated directly that Tommy has, or that Renton doesn't have AIDS.

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* {{Trainspotting}}: ''Film/{{Trainspotting}}'': Tommy has "the virus" but never knew he'd gone "full-blown". He officially died of toxoplasmosis, an opportunistic infection that attacks immuno-compromised people. Renton had to get tested for something that he may have also contracted, but fortunately for him his test came up negative. Clearly his disease was AIDS but it's never used in direct reference to him. The HIV virus is brought up during Renton's GoingColdTurkey nightmare, but at no point in the film is it stated directly that Tommy has, or that Renton doesn't have AIDS.
7th Jan '17 11:50:53 PM Pamina
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* In ''Theatre/LaTraviata'', Violetta's tuberculosis is only mentioned by name once, in the last act, while in ''Theatre/LaBoheme'', Mimí's TB is never mentioned by name at all. In both cases, the audience is supposed to recognize the disease just from the symptoms, and possibly from familiarity with the sources, ''La dame aux camélias'' and ''Scenes de la vie de bohéme.''
21st Oct '16 1:22:04 PM Berrenta
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* Oddly inverted, [[TheyJustDidntCare along with just about everything else]], in ''Film/TheRoom''. Lisa's mother says off-handedly that "The tests came back. I definitely have cancer." Setting it up as a possible plot point. However, it is never mentioned again and Lisa herself doesn't seem particularly affected by the news.

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* Oddly inverted, [[TheyJustDidntCare along with just about everything else]], else, in ''Film/TheRoom''. Lisa's mother says off-handedly that "The tests came back. I definitely have cancer." Setting it up as a possible plot point. However, it is never mentioned again and Lisa herself doesn't seem particularly affected by the news.
20th Oct '16 2:56:18 PM SteveMB
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* In the second {{Literature/Flashman}} book, ''Royal Flash,'' a character is described as suffering from a "social disease." To which Flashman immediately responds, "You mean he's got the clap?"

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* In the second {{Literature/Flashman}} book, ''Royal Flash,'' a character is described as suffering from a "social disease." To which Flashman immediately responds, [[EuphemismBuster "You mean he's got the clap?"clap?"]]
4th Sep '16 12:20:51 PM Specialist290
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Another aspect of the taboo is that many people consider it TemptingFate to talk about diseases, in the same sense as SpeakOfTheDevil and TheScottishTrope. And as the close associates of the asbestos miner who died of cancer also died of cancer after talking about the fact that he had cancer, and plague victims died after going to the market and talking to people about who had the plague, and everyone who gossiped about Phil having cholera as they drew water from the well next to the dump came down with cholera...cue centuries of the AssociationFallacy.

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Another aspect of the taboo is that many people consider it TemptingFate to talk about diseases, in the same sense as SpeakOfTheDevil and TheScottishTrope. And as the close associates of the asbestos miner who died of cancer also died of cancer after talking about the fact that he had cancer, and plague victims died after going to the same rat-infested market and talking to people about who had the plague, and everyone who gossiped about Phil having cholera as they drew water from the well next to the dump came down with cholera...cholera... cue centuries of the AssociationFallacy.
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