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14th Apr '18 11:52:54 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'': Supports in [=SpotPass=] reveal this to be the case with Gangrel, the first ArcVillain of the game. [[spoiler:Walhart's conquest of the continent of Valm worried Gangrel, causing him to start his own unification plan that involved uniting Plegia, Ferox, and Ylisse under himself, so that they could stand up to the Valmese Empire. The power he got from starting the war, and his self-imposed rush to unite the countries, went to his head and caused MotiveDecay; by the time of the game's beginning, his only ''real'' motive is [[WarForFunAndProfit deliberately provoking open war with Ylisse for the hell of it]].]]
28th Mar '18 10:42:26 PM nombretomado
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* Jacen Solo in ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' (part of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse) ends up this way as a result of the philosophical growth he goes through that's necessary [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to save the galaxy without committing genocide]]. Twice invoked, as another reason he started down that path was because of a vision in which he and Luke fight to the death. Naturally, by the end he no longer cares if Luke dies.

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* Jacen Solo in ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' (part of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse) ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'') ends up this way as a result of the philosophical growth he goes through that's necessary [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to save the galaxy without committing genocide]]. Twice invoked, as another reason he started down that path was because of a vision in which he and Luke fight to the death. Naturally, by the end he no longer cares if Luke dies.
15th Mar '18 12:41:16 AM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfWar'': Talion and Celebrimbor use Wraith Artes to mind-control Uruks and neutralize Sauron. This slowly erodes their humanity as they die repeatedly, performing war crime after war crime in between. By the end, [[spoiler:Celebrimbor has developed full megalomania and intends to take over as a Bright Lord, enslaving man and orc for the sake of the elves. Talion eventually breaks after decades of resisting the corruption of necromancy, but manages to get out thanks to the efforts of the Fellowship of the Ring, only to completely forget his family and become a wandering spirit who forgot everything he originally stood for (signified by his abandonment of the very weapons he and Celebrimbor forged in the name of his family).]]
3rd Mar '18 9:19:04 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Manga/NuraRiseOfTheYokaiClan'': [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade Abe no Seimei's]] StartOfDarkness occurred when his mother, Hagoromo Gitsune, was mortally wounded by humans. Upon his rebirth as the Nue, his very first act is to cast his mother, who had been through [[BornAgainImmortality numerous reincarnations]] and had been trying to bring him back for centuries, into Hell.
5th Feb '18 9:04:14 AM BlueCaper
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* The titular character of ''Film/WeNeedToTalkAboutKevin'' invokes this:
-->'''Eva:''' I want you to tell me...''why''.
-->'''Kevin:''' I used to think I knew. Now, I'm not so sure.
22nd Jan '18 10:44:18 AM WillBGood
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* Chirin the lamb from ''RingingBell'' originally seeks out the wolf who killed his mother with the intent of revenge, but finds he is far too weak. Instead, he asks to become the wolf's apprentice, with the intention of killing the wolf once he's taught him all he knows. The years pass, and Chirin grows into a monstrous ram. He forgets his mother, forgets his mission, forgets he was ever a sheep at all. Its not until they eventually return to Chirins former home at the farm where the wolf wants him to kill the sheep that Chirin finally remembers. [[RedemptionRejection But by then its far too late...]]

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* Chirin the lamb from ''RingingBell'' ''Anime/RingingBell'' originally seeks out the wolf who killed his mother with the intent of revenge, but finds he is far too weak. Instead, he asks to become the wolf's apprentice, with the intention of killing the wolf once he's taught him all he knows. The years pass, and Chirin grows into a monstrous ram. He forgets his mother, forgets his mission, forgets he was ever a sheep at all. Its not until they eventually return to Chirins former home at the farm where the wolf wants him to kill the sheep that Chirin finally remembers. [[RedemptionRejection But by then its far too late...]]
11th Jan '18 8:51:37 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': Shredder's love for Tang Shen, and her choosing Splinter over him, is [[LoveMakesYouEvil his primary reason for turning evil]]. By the time of "Requiem," he's fallen so far that he no longer seems to care about Tang Shen at all, having absolutely zero qualms against [[SpeakIllOfTheDead mocking Shen's death to Karai's face]] by declaring that it's fitting that Karai will die in a burning building just as her mother did.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': Shredder's love for Tang Shen, and her choosing Splinter over him, is [[LoveMakesYouEvil his primary reason for turning evil]]. By the time of "Requiem," he's fallen so far that he no longer seems to care about Tang Shen at all, having absolutely zero qualms against [[SpeakIllOfTheDead mocking Shen's death to Karai's face]] by declaring that it's fitting that Karai will [[KillItWithFire die in a burning building just the same manner as her mother did.mother]].
17th Dec '17 9:49:44 AM wingedcatgirl
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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''

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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade''



** It's stated by at least two other sources that this is what happens to ''anyone'' who dabbles with dark magic for too long, though as [[spoiler:Bramimond]] demonstrates, [[DarkIsNotEvil they won't]] ''[[DarkIsNotEvil always]]'' [[DarkIsNotEvil turn evil afterwards]]. Although it still doesn't display a terribly good fate for those who work with elder magic, as [[spoiler:Bramimond]] is shown to have no personality of its own, merely mimicking the mannerisms of whoever it is speaking to. The lack of gendered pronouns in the previous sentence is a result of this -- Athos initially calls it a "he" before switching to genderless pronouns and explaining that the true [[spoiler:Bramimond]] is long gone and that the being they were speaking to was little more than a living mirror.

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** It's stated by at least two other sources that this is what happens to ''anyone'' who dabbles with dark magic for too long, though as [[spoiler:Bramimond]] demonstrates, [[DarkIsNotEvil they won't]] won't necessarily turn ''[[DarkIsNotEvil always]]'' [[DarkIsNotEvil turn evil afterwards]].evil]]'' afterwards. Although it still doesn't display a terribly good fate for those who work with elder magic, as [[spoiler:Bramimond]] is shown to have no personality of its own, merely mimicking the mannerisms of whoever it is speaking to. The lack of gendered pronouns in the previous sentence is a result of this -- Athos initially calls it a "he" before switching to genderless pronouns and explaining that the true [[spoiler:Bramimond]] is long gone and that the being they were speaking to was little more than a living mirror.
3rd Dec '17 10:54:50 PM Kalaong
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* In, ''Extreme Prejudice'', a story in Creator/JerryPournelle's "High Justice" universe, an assassin is sent to an underwater research community to kill a defector. Over the course of the story, he realizes the defector has built a happy, productive life for himself and his family -- and this just makes the assassin hate the defector even more; ''he'' has sacrificed any and all hope for a normal life in order to carry out his missions. It's when he discovers the reason for the defection that he realizes the trope is in effect; the President ordered the defector to kill his Solicitor General just as he began investigating his office for Mafia ties. He defected instead of killing a cop to protect a crooked politician -- and warned the cop first.

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* In, ''Extreme Prejudice'', a story in Creator/JerryPournelle's "High Justice" universe, an assassin is sent to an underwater research community to kill a defector. Over the course of the story, he realizes the defector has built a happy, productive life for himself and his family -- and this just makes the assassin hate the defector even more; ''he'' has sacrificed any and all hope for a normal life in order to carry out his missions. It's when he discovers the reason for the defection that he realizes the trope is in effect; the [[spoiler:the President ordered the defector to kill his Solicitor General just as he began investigating his office for Mafia ties. He defected instead of killing a cop to protect a crooked politician -- and warned the cop first.first]].
15th Oct '17 7:35:08 PM PaulA
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* In, ''Extreme Prejudice'', a story in [[Literature/CoDominium Jerry Pournelle]]'s "High Justice" universe, an assassin is sent to an underwater research community to kill a defector. Over the course of the story, he realizes the defector has built a happy, productive life for himself and his family - and this just makes the assassin hate the defector even more; ''he'' has sacrificed any and all hope for a normal life in order to carry out his missions. It's when he discovers the reason for the defection that he realizes the trope is in effect; the President ordered the defector to kill his Solicitor General just as he began investigating his office for Mafia ties. He defected instead of killing a cop to protect a crooked politician - and warned the cop first.
-->'''Defector''': ''You canít admit you’re wrong. Youíve spilled too much blood for the cause. Admit youíre wrong and youíre a monster. I know. I '''know.'''''\\
'''Assassin''': (In my business you do your job and thatís all. ...you canít question your orders. If the people at the top donít know what theyíre doing, if it isnít worth it, what are you? A god-damned hired killer, a criminal, and Iím not that, Iím a patriot. A soldier.)

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* In, ''Extreme Prejudice'', a story in [[Literature/CoDominium Jerry Pournelle]]'s Creator/JerryPournelle's "High Justice" universe, an assassin is sent to an underwater research community to kill a defector. Over the course of the story, he realizes the defector has built a happy, productive life for himself and his family - -- and this just makes the assassin hate the defector even more; ''he'' has sacrificed any and all hope for a normal life in order to carry out his missions. It's when he discovers the reason for the defection that he realizes the trope is in effect; the President ordered the defector to kill his Solicitor General just as he began investigating his office for Mafia ties. He defected instead of killing a cop to protect a crooked politician - -- and warned the cop first.
-->'''Defector''': -->'''Defector:''' ''You canít admit you’re you're wrong. Youíve spilled too much blood for the cause. Admit youíre you're wrong and youíre you're a monster. I know. I '''know.'''''\\
'''Assassin''': '''Assassin:''' (In my business you do your job and thatís that's all. ...you canít can't question your orders. If the people at the top donít don't know what theyíre they're doing, if it isnít isn't worth it, what are you? A god-damned hired killer, a criminal, and Iím I'm not that, Iím I'm a patriot. A soldier.)
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