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30th Jan '16 5:46:59 PM Dravencour
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** Sasuke is a poster child for this. While he was always firstly driven by his wish to kill his brother, his time in Konoha made him connect to the members of his team. The lure of revenge was too great, until he decided to break those ties. [[spoiler:[[MotiveDecay His motives have rapidly degenerated]] after joining with Madara. Initially after learning of the truth behind his brother's murder of his clan, Sasuke simply wanted revenge against the Village Elders who manipulated him. Now he won't settle for anything less than the complete genocide of anyone who lives in Konoha. There's some hints that Sasuke is being influenced by something (Madara claims the Uchiha bloodline is TheDarkSide), probably an AuthorsSavingThrow given that during the summit arc he rather suddenly turns into a cardboard villain after gaining Susanoo (amongst other things, he abandoned another set of teammates that he seemed to care about earlier, who in the previous arc had saved him from being killed)]].
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** Sasuke is a poster child for this. While he was always firstly driven by his wish to kill take vengeance upon his brother, brother for murdering their family, his time in Konoha made him connect to the members of his team. The lure of revenge was too great, until he decided to break those ties. [[spoiler:[[MotiveDecay His motives have rapidly degenerated]] after joining with Madara. Initially after learning of the truth behind his brother's murder of his clan, Sasuke simply wanted revenge against the Village Elders who manipulated him. Now he won't settle for anything less than the complete genocide of anyone who lives in Konoha. There's some hints that Sasuke is being influenced by something (Madara claims the Uchiha bloodline is TheDarkSide), probably an AuthorsSavingThrow given that during the summit arc he rather suddenly turns into a cardboard villain after gaining Susanoo (amongst other things, he abandoned another set of teammates that he seemed to care about earlier, who in the previous arc had saved him from being killed)]].
30th Jan '16 5:46:19 PM Dravencour
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker himself from the prequel trilogy joins the Dark Side in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' in order to [[LoveMakesYouEvil save his wife from dying]]. Then he starts killing [[CallARabbitASmeerp younglings]] and things go downhill from there. When he force-chokes Padmé Amidala, it solidifies him into this trope.
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker himself from the prequel trilogy joins the Dark Side in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' in order to [[LoveMakesYouEvil save his wife from dying]]. Then he starts killing [[CallARabbitASmeerp younglings]] and things go downhill from there. When he force-chokes Padmé Amidala, the wife in question, it solidifies him into this trope.
30th Jan '16 5:33:39 PM Dravencour
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* Possibly [[spoiler:Gin Ichimaru]] from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''. It seems he originally started [[spoiler:plotting to kill Aizen as revenge for his underlings attacking Rangiku in her youth.]] Now over a century later [[spoiler: he still tried to kill Aizen, but not only he was willing to wound Rangiku to accomplish that, it seems would have continued Aizen's plan to destroy Karakura Town if he had managed to kill him.]] He seems to have lost track of himself a ''long'' time ago. This may be a fusion of TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget and BecomingTheMask, though. Hundred years of undercover that's actually pretty fun will do that to you.
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* Possibly [[spoiler:Gin Ichimaru]] from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''. It seems he originally started [[spoiler:plotting to kill Aizen as revenge for his underlings attacking Rangiku in her youth.]] Now over a century later [[spoiler: he still tried to kill Aizen, but not only he was he willing to wound Rangiku to accomplish that, it seems would have continued Aizen's plan to destroy Karakura Town if he had managed to kill him.]] He seems to have lost track of himself a ''long'' time ago. This may be a fusion of TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget and BecomingTheMask, though. Hundred years of undercover that's actually pretty fun will do that to you.
30th Jan '16 5:31:07 PM Dravencour
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The character is an explicit good guy. Either in order to achieve a goal, or by being forced into doing so by someone else, they [[IDidWhatIHadToDo do what needs to be done]]. The ByTheBookCop beats a confession out of the serial killer who will go free otherwise. TheParagon uses their SuperpoweredEvilSide to defeat an invincible foe. The WhiteMage breaks their oath to never use [[LightEmUp the power of light as a weapon]].
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The character is an explicit good guy. Either in order to achieve a goal, or by being forced into doing so by someone else, they [[IDidWhatIHadToDo do what needs to be done]]. The ByTheBookCop beats a confession out of the serial killer SerialKiller who will go free otherwise. TheParagon uses their SuperpoweredEvilSide to defeat an invincible foe. The WhiteMage breaks their oath to never use [[LightEmUp the power of light as a weapon]].
5th Jan '16 5:47:56 PM ChaoticNovelist
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"used badly" Opinion!
* Used rather badly on ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' with Cole. Shortly after being freed of his original demon side, he was involuntarily possessed by the power of the Source of All Evil, and though he tried to resist for a time, it quickly turned him into the new Source, specially after Phoebe vanquishes the demon that would've taken the Source's essence for himself. After being vanquished, he came back from the dead and tried to use his powers to fight demons, [[GenreBlind though by this time he really should've known better]]. The sisters seem to give him the full measure of blame for his actions, even though Phoebe was partially to blame.
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* Used rather badly on ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' with Cole. ''Series/{{Charmed}}'': Shortly after being freed of his original demon side, he Cole's was involuntarily possessed by the power of the Source of All Evil, and though he tried to resist for a time, it quickly turned him into the new Source, specially after Phoebe vanquishes the demon that would've taken the Source's essence for himself. After being vanquished, he came back from the dead and tried to use his powers to fight demons, [[GenreBlind though by this time he really should've known better]]. The sisters seem to give him the full measure of blame for his actions, even though Phoebe was partially to blame.
5th Jan '16 5:44:31 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'''s Light Yagami originally had good intentions, but as he got more and more [[AGodAmI drunk on power]] he lost sight of them in favor of taking over the world. Alternately, he had superego-compatible justifications, which fell by the wayside as he became more and more used to the safety of anonymity and the fact that people who liked Kira liked him for his power more than anything, and that sparring with L was actually a lot more interesting than taking out the trash. Either way his access to dark side powers seduced him to casual evil without his noticing.
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'''s Light Yagami originally had good intentions, but as he got more and more [[AGodAmI drunk on power]] power he lost sight of them in favor of taking over the world. Alternately, he had superego-compatible justifications, which fell by the wayside as he became more and more used to the safety of anonymity and the fact that people who liked Kira liked him for his power more than anything, and that sparring with L was actually a lot more interesting than taking out the trash. Either way his access to dark side powers seduced him to casual evil without his noticing.
5th Jan '16 5:44:10 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** Light's first thought when testing the Death Note was to use it on a group of bullying classmates. He only decided not to because that might lead the police to him. These are not the thoughts of a normal, balanced individual. Moreover, his first attempt to kill L was motivated by rage -- [[IResembleThatRemark rage at being called evil]]. He also killed investigators whose job it was to stop crime. Though he may have reason to kill those trying to stop them, he was ''disturbingly'' satisfied that he outwitted and forced a broken detective to hang herself. The Death Note's effects on Light's sanity became more obvious when [[spoiler:Light gave his Death Note away and lost all of his memories. He turned out to be nice and fully convinced that Kira was evil and had to be stopped.]] *** Although it didn't take ''long'' for this to happen, and he doesn't seem to have had far to fall. By the end of the first episode he's already explicitly telling Ryuk that his goal is to rule over the world like a god.
23rd Oct '15 6:11:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Obsolete trope name.
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' implies this was what happened to [[BigBad Ganondorf]]. He initially set out to conquer Hyrule because he envied its idyllic nature while his people lived in a harsh desert... but when he laid hands on the Triforce, seven years later all he'd changed is that now the rest of Hyrule is even ''worse'' than the desert while he chased the missing pieces of the triforce. ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' actually gives an explanation for this- he's the incarnation of the BiggerBad's hatred, so no matter what his starting goal, TheDarkSide ''will'' eventually corrupt it into generic EvilOverlord-ism.
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' implies this was what happened to [[BigBad Ganondorf]]. He initially set out to conquer Hyrule because he envied its idyllic nature while his people lived in a harsh desert... but when he laid hands on the Triforce, seven years later all he'd changed is that now the rest of Hyrule is even ''worse'' than the desert while he chased the missing pieces of the triforce. ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' actually gives an explanation for this- he's the incarnation of the BiggerBad's a {{God Of Evil}}'s hatred, so no matter what his starting goal, TheDarkSide ''will'' eventually corrupt it into generic EvilOverlord-ism.
23rd Oct '15 6:08:07 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' implies this was what happened to [[BigBad Ganondorf]]. He initially set out to conquer Hyrule because he envied its idyllic nature while his people lived in a harsh desert... but when he laid hands on the Triforce, seven years later all he'd changed is that now the rest of Hyrule is even ''worse'' than the desert while he chased the missing pieces of the triforce. ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' actually gives an explanation for this- he's the incarnation of the BiggerBad's hatred, so no matter what his starting goal, TheDarkSide ''will'' eventually corrupt it into generic EvilOverlord-ism.
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' implies this was what happened to [[BigBad Ganondorf]]. He initially set out to conquer Hyrule because he envied its idyllic nature while his people lived in a harsh desert... but when he laid hands on the Triforce, seven years later all he'd changed is that now the rest of Hyrule is even ''worse'' than the desert while he chased the missing pieces of the triforce. ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' actually gives an explanation for this- he's the incarnation of the BiggerBad's hatred, so no matter what his starting goal, TheDarkSide ''will'' eventually corrupt it into generic EvilOverlord-ism.
3rd Oct '15 1:42:30 PM OlmoJV
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* In ''Fanfic/HopeForTheHeartless'' (in which [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King]] is [[ResurrectedForAJob brought back to life]] and half-forced on [[ImpossibleTask a seemingly impossible]] RedemptionQuest), it's revealed that the [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] ([[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld who has existed over a thousand years]]) has forgotten many things from his past in his centuries lasting quest to find [[ArtifactOfDoom the Black Cauldron]] in order to TakeOverTheWorld, viewing memories to be [[PragmaticVillainy a distraction]]. He doesn't remember how to feel because his heart died out with the countless sins he committed, or the reason he wanted to conquer the world in the first place, or who he was before becoming [[EvilMentor Arawn's]] apprentice. But over the many months he spends with his MoralityPet, [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Avalina]], he gains some flashbacks from his past and [[WhatIsThisFeeling starts feeling]] [[FirstTimeFeeling positive emotions again]], [[spoiler:even regaining his heart]].
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* In ''Fanfic/HopeForTheHeartless'' (in which [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King]] is [[ResurrectedForAJob brought back to life]] and half-forced on [[ImpossibleTask a seemingly impossible]] RedemptionQuest), it's revealed that the [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] ([[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld who has existed over a thousand years]]) has forgotten many things from his past in his centuries lasting quest to find [[ArtifactOfDoom the Black Cauldron]] in order to TakeOverTheWorld, viewing memories to be [[PragmaticVillainy a distraction]]. He doesn't remember how to feel because his heart died out with the countless sins he committed, or the reason he wanted to conquer the world in the first place, or who he was before becoming [[EvilMentor Arawn's]] apprentice. But However, over the many months he spends with his MoralityPet, [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Avalina]], he gains some flashbacks from his past and [[WhatIsThisFeeling starts feeling]] [[FirstTimeFeeling positive emotions again]], [[spoiler:even regaining his heart]].
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