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21st Aug '16 8:31:56 PM jroggs
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* Never let a fight go the distance in {{UFC}} 2. No matter how much you dominated the fight, the computer will invariably award itself the decision victory.
11th Aug '16 3:31:17 AM Hoki
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** Also, all racers crash and stop to recover whenever you hit them with missiles, bombs, or TNT/Nitro crates. N.Oxide ''spins a few times'' but is otherwise unhindered by any weapon you throw at it.
2nd Aug '16 4:55:13 PM Premonition45
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* [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru test]] in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' assesses how a Starfleet cadet handles a HeadsIWinTailsYouLose situation. The cadet, in command of a starship, receives a distress call from a freighter (the Kobayashi Maru), which has broken down in The Neutral Zone between Klingon and Federation territory, and whose crew will soon die unless action is taken. The politically correct choice is to abandon them to their law-breaking fates; if the cadet chooses to intervene, s/he is preemptively attacked by angry Klingons. Whether the cadet chooses to help or not, the cadet ''must'' be defeated and the computer will happily break the laws of physics, probability or reality to ensure a HumiliationConga-worthy win.
28th Jul '16 9:30:29 PM BobRiddle
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SubTrope of FakeDifficulty.

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SubTrope of FakeDifficulty.
FakeDifficulty. [[IThoughtItMeant Has nothing to do with]] [[YourCheatingHeart adultery]].
25th Jul '16 6:19:20 AM longWriter
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*** ... if allied with you, will do its own thing without regard for others. This often turns into a [[StopHelpingMe nuisance]] from a strategic/tactical point of view.

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*** ... if allied with you, will do its own thing without regard for others. This often turns into a [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper nuisance]] from a strategic/tactical point of view.
24th Jul '16 9:03:31 PM justanid
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Compare GangUpOnTheHuman and RubberbandAI. Contrast PerfectPlayAI. See also TheComputerIsALyingBastard, ComputersAreFast, GameplayAndStorySegregation, TheGMIsACheatingBastard, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, and RedemptionDemotion. When InUniverse AIs have these {{justified|Trope}} abilities, see TheSingularity.

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Compare GangUpOnTheHuman GangUpOnTheHuman, RubberbandAI, and RubberbandAI.SpitefulAI. Contrast PerfectPlayAI. See also TheComputerIsALyingBastard, ComputersAreFast, GameplayAndStorySegregation, TheGMIsACheatingBastard, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, and RedemptionDemotion. When InUniverse AIs have these {{justified|Trope}} abilities, see TheSingularity.
24th Jul '16 8:40:44 PM justanid
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Compare GangUpOnTheHuman and RubberbandAI. Contrast PerfectPlayAI. See also ComputersAreFast, GameplayAndStorySegregation, TheGMIsACheatingBastard, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, and RedemptionDemotion. When InUniverse AIs have these {{justified|Trope}} abilities, see TheSingularity.

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Compare GangUpOnTheHuman and RubberbandAI. Contrast PerfectPlayAI. See also TheComputerIsALyingBastard, ComputersAreFast, GameplayAndStorySegregation, TheGMIsACheatingBastard, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, and RedemptionDemotion. When InUniverse AIs have these {{justified|Trope}} abilities, see TheSingularity.
24th Jul '16 8:31:53 PM justanid
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This trope does ''not'' include "fair challenges" of the game (wide pits, [[DemonicSpiders powerful]] / [[GoddamnedBats numerous]] enemies, etc.); those are Real Difficulty. Likewise, one should not accuse the computer of cheating simply because it plays to a computer's natural strengths ([[ComputersAreFast lightning reflexes]], [[TheAllSeeingAI omniscient knowledge]] [[RulesLawyer of the game rules]], and so forth), or because you have a single streak of bad luck. Consistent bad luck, however, may be a sign that the computer is using the [[RandomNumberGod RNG]] to cheat. On the other hand, some cheats can actually work to the player's advantage, such as with the RubberbandAI or [[ClassicCheatCode plain old Cheat Codes]].

Note that this is not a place to complain about enemies that have skills you don't have, or about how unlucky you are and how many times you missed (unless the computer has a different chance of missing with the same skill), or about how hard ThatOneBoss is, or how the computer is actually half decent at some of the game's more advanced maneuvers that you happen to suck at. This is only for scenarios where it would be expected for the player and the AI to be on even footing. For example, in the campaign of a strategy game, it would be natural for the computer to outnumber you and/or have more resources than you - that's part of the challenge of a campaign. However, in free battle or skirmish mode, a computer starting with more resources than you is usually cheating, since you would expect to be on even footing with the computer (unless you can set what everyone starts with).

RedemptionDemotion is an example of GameplayAndStorySegregation, where the enemy you fight and the one who joins your team are two different characters, even when the story says they're one and the same. It's not an example of cheating unless the character is generic and the version your enemy has is explicitly stronger than yours.

Also, though this trope generally applies to impossibilities (things that the player literally cannot do no matter how well they play and no matter how many things they've unlocked in the game at that point, the computer will just have extra resources or abilities), it can also just apply to more conventional cheating. If the game looks at the way your characters have been customized and the AI is then given strategies or abilities specifically designed to counter yours, that's not ''impossible'', per se (it's entirely possible that you could encounter a human player with a team that counters yours perfectly!), but it's something that was specifically given to the computer as an advantage over the player, rather than random chance.

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This trope does ''not'' include "fair challenges" of the game (wide pits, [[DemonicSpiders powerful]] / [[GoddamnedBats numerous]] enemies, etc.); those are Real Difficulty. Likewise, one should not accuse the computer of cheating simply because it plays to a computer's natural strengths ([[ComputersAreFast lightning reflexes]], [[TheAllSeeingAI omniscient knowledge]] [[RulesLawyer of the game rules]], and so forth), or because you have a single streak of bad luck. Consistent bad luck, however, may be a sign that the computer is using the [[RandomNumberGod RNG]] to cheat. On the other hand, some cheats can actually work to the player's advantage, such as with the RubberbandAI or [[ClassicCheatCode plain old Cheat Codes]].

Note that this is not a place to complain about enemies that have skills you don't have, or about how unlucky you are and how many times you missed (unless the computer has a different chance of missing with the same skill), or about how hard ThatOneBoss is, or how the computer is actually half decent at some of the game's more advanced maneuvers that you happen to suck at. This is only for scenarios where it would be expected for the player and the AI to be on even footing. For example, in the campaign of a strategy game, it would be natural for the computer to outnumber you and/or have more resources than you - that's part of the challenge of a campaign. However, in free battle or skirmish mode, a computer starting with more resources than you is usually cheating, since you would expect to be on even footing with the computer (unless you can set what everyone starts with).

RedemptionDemotion is an example of GameplayAndStorySegregation, where the enemy you fight and the one who joins your team are two different characters, even when the story says they're one and the same. It's not an example of cheating unless the character is generic and the version your enemy has is explicitly stronger than yours.

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Though this trope generally applies to impossibilities (things that the player literally cannot do no matter how well they play and no matter how many things they've unlocked in the game at that point, the computer will just have extra resources or abilities), it can also just apply to more conventional cheating. If the game looks at the way your characters have been customized and the AI is then given strategies or abilities specifically designed to counter yours, that's not ''impossible'', per se (it's entirely possible that you could encounter a human player with a team that counters yours perfectly!), but it's something that was specifically given to the computer as an advantage over the player, rather than random chance.



Sub-category of FakeDifficulty. See also RubberbandAI, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, ComputersAreFast, PerfectPlayAI, GangUpOnTheHuman, TheGMIsACheatingBastard. For when InUniverse AIs have these [[JustifiedTrope justified]] abilities, see TheSingularity.

''Note: when adding examples here, please make sure whatever you're planning to claim is ''actually true'', meaning you have hard data saying there is cheating going on, not just some vague feeling that you ''always'' [[{{Franchise/Pokemon}} hurt yourself in confusion]] and the AI ''never'' does. The phenomenon making you feel that way is almost definitely confirmation bias, as any of the various people who have done actual testing with hundreds of data points can tell you.''

Almost every game that can have this trope does, because a game cheating on higher difficulty levels STILL usually counts, since most games aren't that honest with exactly what changes with each difficulty level (see screenshot). So please post notable examples only. On the other hand, a computer cheating in your favor does not count (not a bastard). Also, some games give what would otherwise be cheating an in-story justification, or it may be required for the plot that you ''must'' lose that fight.

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Sub-category SubTrope of FakeDifficulty. See also RubberbandAI, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, ComputersAreFast, PerfectPlayAI, GangUpOnTheHuman, TheGMIsACheatingBastard. For when InUniverse AIs have these [[JustifiedTrope justified]] abilities, see TheSingularity.

''Note: when adding examples here, please make sure whatever you're planning to claim is ''actually true'', meaning you have hard data saying there is cheating going on, not just some vague feeling that you ''always'' [[{{Franchise/Pokemon}} hurt yourself in confusion]] and the AI ''never'' does. The phenomenon making you feel that way is almost definitely confirmation bias, as any of the various people who have done actual testing with hundreds of data points can tell you.''

Almost every game that can have this trope does, because a game cheating on higher difficulty levels STILL usually counts, since most games aren't that honest with exactly what changes with each difficulty level (see screenshot). So please post notable examples only. On the other hand, a computer cheating in your favor does not count (not a bastard). Also, some games give what would otherwise be cheating an in-story justification, or it may be required for the plot that you ''must'' lose that fight.

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FakeDifficulty.

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This trope does ''not'' include "fair challenges" of the game (wide pits, [[DemonicSpiders powerful]] / [[GoddamnedBats numerous]] enemies, etc.); those are Real Difficulty. Likewise, one should not accuse the computer of cheating simply because it plays to a computer's natural strengths ([[ComputersAreFast lightning reflexes]], [[TheAllSeeingAI omniscient knowledge]] [[RulesLawyer of the game rules]], and so forth), or because you have a single streak of bad luck. Consistent bad luck, however, may be a sign that the computer is using the [[RandomNumberGod RNG]] to cheat. On the other hand, some cheats can actually work to the player's advantage, such as with the RubberbandAI or [[ClassicCheatCode plain old Cheat Codes]].

Compare GangUpOnTheHuman and RubberbandAI. Contrast PerfectPlayAI. See also ComputersAreFast, GameplayAndStorySegregation, TheGMIsACheatingBastard, NintendoHard, RandomNumberGod, and RedemptionDemotion. When InUniverse AIs have these {{justified|Trope}} abilities, see TheSingularity.

''Note: when adding examples here, please make sure whatever you're planning to claim is ''actually true'', meaning you have hard data saying there is cheating going on, not just some vague feeling that you ''always'' [[{{Franchise/Pokemon}} hurt yourself in confusion]] and the AI ''never'' does. The phenomenon making you feel that way is almost definitely confirmation bias, as any of the various people who have done actual testing with hundreds of data points can tell you.''

''This is not a place to complain about enemies that have skills you don't have, or about how unlucky you are and how many times you missed, or about how hard ThatOneBoss is, or how the computer is actually half decent at some of the game's more advanced maneuvers that you happen to suck at. This is only for scenarios where it would be expected for the player and the AI to be on even footing. For example, in the campaign of a strategy game, it would be natural for the computer to outnumber you and/or have more resources than you -- that's part of the challenge of a campaign. However, in free battle or skirmish mode, a computer starting with more resources than you is usually cheating, since you would expect to be on even footing with the computer (unless you can set what everyone starts with).''



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24th Jul '16 8:04:33 PM justanid
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HeelFaceDowngrade is an example of GameplayAndStorySegregation, where the enemy you fight and the one who joins your team are two different characters, even when the story says they're one and the same. It's not an example of cheating unless the character is generic and the version your enemy has is explicitly stronger than yours.

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HeelFaceDowngrade RedemptionDemotion is an example of GameplayAndStorySegregation, where the enemy you fight and the one who joins your team are two different characters, even when the story says they're one and the same. It's not an example of cheating unless the character is generic and the version your enemy has is explicitly stronger than yours.
15th Jul '16 8:03:58 AM Willbyr
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* Tecmo's ''CaptainTsubasa'' is NintendoHard because your oppernents have infinite Gut, meaning they can keep spamming special moves while you're struggling with saving your bests of an offensive tactic. Their overall stats overpower your, and their [[TheAce aces]] usually have superior shooting power that it doesn't really matter if your team has a goalie. Even when you have the famous [[RedBaron SGGK]] Wakabayashi, some really powerful strikers can still easily blow him away. Characters that used to be powerful like Matsuyama and Tachibana Twin, by the time you get them in your team, can barely get their shots past a keeper.

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* Tecmo's ''CaptainTsubasa'' ''VideoGame/CaptainTsubasa'' is NintendoHard because your oppernents have infinite Gut, meaning they can keep spamming special moves while you're struggling with saving your bests of an offensive tactic. Their overall stats overpower your, and their [[TheAce aces]] usually have superior shooting power that it doesn't really matter if your team has a goalie. Even when you have the famous [[RedBaron SGGK]] Wakabayashi, some really powerful strikers can still easily blow him away. Characters that used to be powerful like Matsuyama and Tachibana Twin, by the time you get them in your team, can barely get their shots past a keeper.



** This carries over into ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' fangame based on ''CaptainTsubasa'', ''Touhou Soccer Moushuuden''... except the residental SGGK ([[RealityWarper Yukari]]) is usually on ''opponent's'' side. You get only [[ChineseGirl China]], who has problems stopping anything that isn't a normal shot.

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** This carries over into ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' fangame based on ''CaptainTsubasa'', ''Captain Tsubasa'', ''Touhou Soccer Moushuuden''... except the residental SGGK ([[RealityWarper Yukari]]) is usually on ''opponent's'' side. You get only [[ChineseGirl China]], who has problems stopping anything that isn't a normal shot.
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