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7th Oct '17 1:34:37 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Zig-Zagged|Trope}} in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The Complainer of the group, Sokka, is also TheSmartGuy. Of course, Sokka is also The ButtMonkey, so it is played straight on occasion. Basically, if the thing being discussed is [[SingleIssueWonk a trivial matter]], Sokka will almost always be wrong, often for comedic effect. If it's something plot-relevant, [[ProperlyParanoid he's almost always right]].

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* {{Zig-Zagged|Trope}} ZigZagged in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The Complainer of the group, Sokka, is also TheSmartGuy. Of course, Sokka is also The ButtMonkey, so it is played straight on occasion. Basically, if the thing being discussed is [[SingleIssueWonk a trivial matter]], Sokka will almost always be wrong, often for comedic effect. If it's something plot-relevant, [[ProperlyParanoid he's almost always right]].
7th Oct '17 1:32:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Inverted and Played With in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The Complainer of the group, Sokka, is also TheSmartGuy. Of course, Sokka is also The ButtMonkey, so it is played straight on occasion. Basically, if the thing being discussed is [[SingleIssueWonk a trivial matter]], Sokka will almost always be wrong, often for comedic effect. If it's something plot-relevant, [[ProperlyParanoid he's almost always right]].

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* Inverted and Played With {{Zig-Zagged|Trope}} in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The Complainer of the group, Sokka, is also TheSmartGuy. Of course, Sokka is also The ButtMonkey, so it is played straight on occasion. Basically, if the thing being discussed is [[SingleIssueWonk a trivial matter]], Sokka will almost always be wrong, often for comedic effect. If it's something plot-relevant, [[ProperlyParanoid he's almost always right]].
23rd Sep '17 2:54:29 PM jamescamera
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* This is one of the criticisms that often gets thrown at ''VideoGame/Persona4'', in relation to the [[spoiler:murderer, Adachi. Particularly during the one scene where the members of Investigation Team "counter" his complaints about life by essentially doing nothing but invoking this in differing wording (e.g. "You're just acting like a whiny child", "your opinions don't matter since you're just a criminal", ect).
21st Sep '17 11:39:45 PM gophergiggles
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** Speaking of Lisa, it's often [[InvertedTrope inverted]] with Springfield's resident SoapboxSadie. Many is the time she'll protest something for being "wrong", despite it ultimately being better for everyone involved or at least having no negative repercussions whatsoever outside of being dishonest or deceitful, and she'll ultimately be portrayed as having the moral high ground who everyone inevitably agrees. It's occasionally mocked, such as when the entire school anticipated she would pull such a stunt and [[ItMakesSenseInContext staged a fake presentation with an imposter Comptroller]] to continue their dishonest act that would get some much-needed funding for the school.
2nd Aug '17 4:21:24 PM KoolKoopaGirl
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Alice, Bob, and Carol are friends. Alice and Bob want to paint their clubhouse green. Carol thinks brown would be better. She goes to the paint store to buy brown paint to try and force the issue, but has trouble climbing the ladder with one hand and falls and spills paint everywhere and gets covered in it, and Alice and Bob say that this happened because Carol was so wrong to act alone.

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Alice, Bob, and Carol are friends. Alice and Bob want to paint their clubhouse green. Carol thinks brown would be better. She goes to the paint store to buy brown paint to try and force the issue, but has trouble climbing the ladder with one hand and falls and spills paint everywhere and gets covered in it, and Alice and Bob say that this happened because Carol was so wrong to act alone.
alone. Never mind the fact that Carol is already naturally clumsy, or that it was just plain stupid to climb a ladder with one hand.
24th Jun '17 11:49:01 AM nombretomado
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* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels like this for Lelouch of ''CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get out of the way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared.]] The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.

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* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels like this for Lelouch of ''CodeGeass''.''Anime/CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get out of the way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared.]] The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.
23rd Jun '17 12:03:39 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers if the majority judges a character for their cynical beliefs. Compare TallPoppySyndrome. Contrast with IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the sole complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit. Also contrast PeerPressureMakesYouEvil, where the Aesop is that you ''shouldn't'' go along with the group. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the UnacceptableTarget.

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May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers if the majority judges a character for their cynical beliefs. Compare TallPoppySyndrome.TallPoppySyndrome, ObsessivelyNormal. Contrast with IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the sole complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit. Also contrast PeerPressureMakesYouEvil, where the Aesop is that you ''shouldn't'' go along with the group. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the UnacceptableTarget.
20th Jun '17 10:45:52 AM 32_Footsteps
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** This was a carry-over from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', in which Worf's tactical suggestions were dismissed with almost clockwork precision... even though it was regularly shown that his suggestions, if followed, would have saved a ''lot'' of headache on the Enterprise-D. [[https://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs Someone made a video]] showcasing just how often this came up.
17th Jun '17 6:53:03 PM LavonPapillon1
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* In ''Fanfic/GiftOfADiamond'', Blue Diamond received complaints in droves about Rhodonite from Holly Blue Agate. This eventually stops after Holly gets demoted to cleaning duty with Rhodonite taking her place.
13th May '17 4:30:37 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in the Zerg campaign of ''StarCraft'' with Zasz, an obnoxious lieutenant in the ranks of the alien race. He spends the first half of the campaign being obviously jealous because [[HiveMind The Overmind]] has chosen Kerrigan has his ultimate creation. Then Zasz gets killed for good because nobody else listened when he said the Protoss were setting up an obvious trap and Kerrigan was falling right into it.

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* Subverted in the Zerg campaign of ''StarCraft'' ''VideoGame/{{StarCraft|I}}'' with Zasz, an obnoxious lieutenant in the ranks of the alien race. He spends the first half of the campaign being obviously jealous because [[HiveMind The Overmind]] has chosen Kerrigan has his ultimate creation. Then Zasz gets killed for good because nobody else listened when he said the Protoss were setting up an obvious trap and Kerrigan was falling right into it.
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