History Main / TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong

8th Feb '16 9:30:25 PM CaptEquinox
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** Even HarsherInHindsight: the real Leonie was [[http://cloisters.tripod.com/leonieleague/id8.html learning disabled and possibly autistic]]. She's even the last to get her cause for sainthood turned in to the Vatican.
2nd Feb '16 6:32:55 PM GlitteringWolf
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YMMV heavily on all of your reasons. And for the record, if who would sign a sheet that was jinxed. She went to Umbridge of her own accord, and so there was no threat to her mom's job. AND if Hermione didn't jinx the paper, Marietta would have blabbed the whole truth, probably got Harry and a bunch of people expelled, and Dumbledore would have probably been sacked anyway for not stopping the club.
* A pretty frustrating example happens with ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'' with Cho Chang. Late in the book, Cho's friend, Marietta Edgecomb, [[spoiler: attempts to rat out Dumbledore's Army to Umbridge]]. This causes her to have almost permanent boils in a pattern to read SNEAK on her face. When Cho finds out about this, she defends Marietta by pointing out that she did it out of fear that her mother would lose her job, which is a very reasonable fear. Since Marietta had little characterization, we have no reason to think this isn't true. She then points out that Hermione should have warned them that the sign-up sheet was jinxed. Harry claims that it was brilliant, but Cho wasn't wrong. Warning the members of the DA that the sign-up sheet was jinxed would have given them incentive not to tattle, and considering that Marietta's attempt led to [[spoiler: Dumbledore fleeing Hogwarts]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it clearly did more damage than good]]. Despite that, Cho and Marietta are in the wrong because, in JK Rowling's words, she loathes a traitor.
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* A pretty frustrating example happens with ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'' with Cho Chang. Late in the book, Cho's friend, Marietta Edgecomb, [[spoiler: attempts to rat out Dumbledore's Army to Umbridge]]. This causes her to have almost permanent boils in a pattern to read SNEAK on her face. When Cho finds out about this, she defends Marietta by pointing out that she did it out of fear that her mother would lose her job, which is a very reasonable fear. Since Marietta had little characterization, we have no reason to think this isn't true. She then points out that Hermione should have warned them that the sign-up sheet was jinxed. Harry claims that it was brilliant, but Cho wasn't wrong. Warning the members of the DA that the sign-up sheet was jinxed would have given them incentive not to tattle, and considering that Marietta's attempt led to [[spoiler: Dumbledore fleeing Hogwarts]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it clearly did more damage than good]]. Despite that, Cho and Marietta are in the wrong because, in JK Rowling's words, she loathes a traitor.
22nd Jan '16 8:58:50 PM DragonTrainer
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** The contestant who ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like his new costume in the second season was not eliminated. Stan ''did'' get upset and had a few choice words to say, but the contestant in question ''didn't'' get eliminated and survived that round.
22nd Jan '16 1:54:47 PM StFan
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' once has TechnicalPacifist Comicbook/AntMan try to break up a battle between the Avengers and the Serpent Society by suggesting the Serpent Society talk their problems out with him instead. The Serpent Society refuses to cooperate, and instead, the fight between them and the Avengers intensifies. After the criminals escape, the Avengers scold Ant-Man for chastising their violent means of tackling villains. Did we mention that they also had ''hostages?''
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' once has TechnicalPacifist Comicbook/AntMan try to break up a battle between the Avengers and the Serpent Society by suggesting the Serpent Society talk their problems out with him instead. The Serpent Society refuses to cooperate, and instead, the fight between them and the Avengers intensifies. After the criminals escape, the Avengers scold Ant-Man for chastising their violent means of tackling villains. Did we mention that they also had ''hostages?''
16th Jan '16 6:32:09 PM nombretomado
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* ''WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it.
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* ''WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by StanLee Creator/StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it.
22nd Dec '15 8:57:39 AM Julia1984
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Requires more explanation to be proven valid - that book is about 2 spoiled brats learning to care about others and appreciate nature; nowhere is conformity with a group brought up, unless you count learning what it's like to love and be loved after being raised by sycophantic servants your whole life.
* ''Literature/TheSecretGarden'': Practically the [[AnAesop Aesop]].
1st Dec '15 7:07:21 PM nombretomado
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* Parodied heavily with the ShowWithinAShow "The Buddy Bears" from ''GarfieldAndFriends''. They were three "cute" bears in [[TheGayNineties Gay Nineties]] attire who would endlessly perform an obnoxious "barbershop" routine with canes and madcap dancing. Not coincidentally, the head writer of ''GarfieldAndFriends'', and the writer of this episode, was Creator/MarkEvanier. One episode featured Garfield, sick of having to deal with them, [[AppleOfDiscord manipulate them into a situation where they COULDN'T agree]]: [[spoiler:pizza toppings, which Garfield claims ''no'' two people "in the history of Italian cooking" have ''ever'' been able to agree on]].
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* Parodied heavily with the ShowWithinAShow "The Buddy Bears" from ''GarfieldAndFriends''.''WesternAnimation/GarfieldAndFriends''. They were three "cute" bears in [[TheGayNineties Gay Nineties]] attire who would endlessly perform an obnoxious "barbershop" routine with canes and madcap dancing. Not coincidentally, the head writer of ''GarfieldAndFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/GarfieldAndFriends'', and the writer of this episode, was Creator/MarkEvanier. One episode featured Garfield, sick of having to deal with them, [[AppleOfDiscord manipulate them into a situation where they COULDN'T agree]]: [[spoiler:pizza toppings, which Garfield claims ''no'' two people "in the history of Italian cooking" have ''ever'' been able to agree on]].
17th Nov '15 11:25:59 AM Wildstar93
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** Played with in ''Literature/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', concerning the Runespoor, a three headed serpent. While two heads do damage, the third head criticizes them, causing it to get bitten off.
8th Nov '15 4:53:54 PM nombretomado
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* In ''AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'', the trope subverted in that Gruffi is the hardest to please of Gummi Glen and complains a lot, but his practicality is deeply respected as being typically right in his field of expertise, and as such he is usually the de facto leader of the colony.
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* In ''AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'', ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'', the trope subverted in that Gruffi is the hardest to please of Gummi Glen and complains a lot, but his practicality is deeply respected as being typically right in his field of expertise, and as such he is usually the de facto leader of the colony.

* Parodied in ''TheRenAndStimpyShow'', whenever the duo would be acquainted with a new group or fad. Stimpy would often goad a cynical Ren into joining in, of course, between Ren being the ButtMonkey and Stimpy being an imbecile, this usually only led to utter pain for Ren, with Stimpy usually earning a beating for dragging him into it in the first place.
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* Parodied in ''TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', whenever the duo would be acquainted with a new group or fad. Stimpy would often goad a cynical Ren into joining in, of course, between Ren being the ButtMonkey and Stimpy being an imbecile, this usually only led to utter pain for Ren, with Stimpy usually earning a beating for dragging him into it in the first place.
24th Oct '15 9:13:06 AM MrMenCentral
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* Jim Henson created some puppet characters to advertise Wilkins Coffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad, Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!" Less The Complainer Is Always Wrong, more The Complainer Must DIE!
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* Jim Henson created some puppet characters to advertise Wilkins Coffee.Advertising/WilkinsCoffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad, Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!" Less The Complainer Is Always Wrong, more The Complainer Must DIE!
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