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18th Apr '17 5:41:39 PM nombretomado
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* The 2000s version of ''StrawberryShortcake'' seems to have this [[AnAesop aesop]] quite a bit, specifically in The Costume Party and Mind Your Manners, where both complainers are ''tricked into complying'' with Strawberry and her friends' views via parties. A ''lot'' of episode conflicts are solved by tricking or distracting the troublemaker into forgetting they had any reason to disagree or be upset, especially when it involves differences of opinion and personal choices.

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* The 2000s version of ''StrawberryShortcake'' ''WesternAnimation/StrawberryShortcake'' seems to have this [[AnAesop aesop]] quite a bit, specifically in The Costume Party and Mind Your Manners, where both complainers are ''tricked into complying'' with Strawberry and her friends' views via parties. A ''lot'' of episode conflicts are solved by tricking or distracting the troublemaker into forgetting they had any reason to disagree or be upset, especially when it involves differences of opinion and personal choices.
8th Apr '17 8:13:35 AM ironballs16
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** In the Chinpokomon episode, Kyle is constantly criticized for not keeping up with the latest fad, even when it involves bombing Pearl Harbor. When all the other children abandon the fad, he tries to maintain his independence by going on the bombing run anyway. Stan gives him a hastily-thought up speech about following the crowd, and while this doesn't really convince him, he's confused enough to relent.

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** In the Chinpokomon episode, Kyle is constantly criticized for not keeping up with the latest fad, even when it involves bombing Pearl Harbor. When all the other children abandon the fad, [[BrokenAesop he tries to maintain his independence by going on the bombing run anyway.anyway]]. Stan gives him a hastily-thought up speech about following the crowd, and while this doesn't really convince him, he's confused enough to relent.
8th Apr '17 8:07:59 AM ironballs16
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* Rankin-Bass's '''Twas the Night Before Christmas'' takes the Santa Claus myth in a creepy direction. A know-it-all preteen mouse writes a letter in the paper saying that Santa is a myth and signs it 'All of Us', meaning him and his friends. Santa decides not to deliver presents to the whole town, even though the very concept of a naughty/nice list means he could easily tell who the offender was. Everyone decides they have to build him a giant, expensive clock as a peace offering so he'll come visit. The mouse who started the whole mess is then taken on a tour of the town by his father to show how he "ruined everyone's Christmas with [his] opinions" and "doesn't know as much as [he] thinks [he does]."

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* Rankin-Bass's '''Twas the Night Before Christmas'' takes the Santa Claus myth in a creepy direction. A know-it-all preteen mouse writes a letter in the paper saying that Santa is a myth and signs it 'All of Us', meaning him and his friends. Santa decides not to deliver presents to the whole town, even though the very concept of a naughty/nice list means he could easily tell who the offender was. Everyone decides they have to build him a giant, expensive clock as a peace offering so he'll come visit. The mouse who started the whole mess is then taken on a tour of the town by his father to show how he "ruined everyone's Christmas with [his] opinions" and "doesn't "[[KnowNothingKnowItAll doesn't know as much as [he] thinks [he does].does]]]."
8th Apr '17 8:03:30 AM ironballs16
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** There has been a sequel to this episode called "Roy Gets Sacked", which followed Roy as he thinks his friends don't want him anymore and finds himself back as a co-star to the Buddy Bears (who are this time accompanied by an AffirmativeActionGirl) in essentially the same role as before, but this time he is relieved to hear that they don't have any 16-ton safes to drop on him anymore. Unfortunately for Roy, they drop other things on him instead, such as a piano, a 1988 Convertible, and [[spoiler:a '''27'''-ton safe]]. Roy just makes a break for it after that last one, rather than tell the audience to make their own decisions like last time.

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** There has been a sequel to this episode called "Roy Gets Sacked", which followed Roy as he thinks his friends don't want him anymore and finds himself back as a co-star to the Buddy Bears (who are this time accompanied by an AffirmativeActionGirl) in essentially the same role as before, but this time he is relieved to hear that they don't have any 16-ton safes to drop on him anymore. Unfortunately for Roy, [[ExactWords they drop other things on him instead, instead]], such as a piano, a 1988 Convertible, and [[spoiler:a '''27'''-ton safe]]. Roy just makes a break for it after that last one, rather than tell the audience to make their own decisions like last time.
29th Mar '17 12:18:59 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thougt is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.

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* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thougt thought is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.



* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': Poor Yuzu. All she wants is to escape the hellhole that the locked-down Yamanote Circle has become, what with all the demons and [[YourDaysAreNumbered the Death Clock]] and [[BreakTheCutie cutie-breaking horrors]]. She tried [[RefusalOfTheCall refusing the call]], but nobody would let her -- [[IJustWantToBeNormal she just wants her life back]]! But, if you actually ''try'' this... [[spoiler:You either cause humanity to fail their [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]] and lose their free will, or, by defeating everyone trying to ''stop'' your escape, inadvertently allow demons to escape and usher in a CrapsackWorld.]] She just can't win...

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* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': Poor Yuzu. All she wants is to escape the hellhole that the locked-down Yamanote Circle has become, what with all the demons and [[YourDaysAreNumbered the Death Clock]] and [[BreakTheCutie cutie-breaking horrors]]. She tried [[RefusalOfTheCall refusing the call]], but nobody would let her -- [[IJustWantToBeNormal she just wants her life back]]! But, if you actually ''try'' this... [[spoiler:You either cause humanity to fail their [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]] and lose their free will, or, by defeating everyone trying to ''stop'' your escape, inadvertently allow demons to escape and usher in a CrapsackWorld.]] She just can't win...win....



** Of course Brainy Smurf's glasses are smarter than him, not to mention his ego could cause a solar eclipse...

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** Of course Brainy Smurf's glasses are smarter than him, not to mention his ego could cause a solar eclipse...eclipse....
26th Mar '17 7:24:37 PM TheNicestGuy
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* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
25th Mar '17 6:02:26 PM nombretomado
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* In ''CharlieTheUnicorn'' -- except for right until the end, [[spoiler:when his two friends steal his kidney]]. Since the other two are really annoying from the start, even abusive, there is a sense of parody.

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* In ''CharlieTheUnicorn'' ''WebAnimation/CharlieTheUnicorn'' -- except for right until the end, [[spoiler:when his two friends steal his kidney]]. Since the other two are really annoying from the start, even abusive, there is a sense of parody.
15th Mar '17 9:28:54 PM nombretomado
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* ''MuppetBabies'': Fozzie Bear. The jokes he tells are booed at regardless. Though it was subverted when Fozzie finally got fed up with the boos and decided to give up jokes. This eventually made everyone sad as they realized that seeing Fozzie miserable is worse than enduring his jokes and at least knowing ''he's'' happy. Piggy ultimately puts it best: "We love to hate your jokes!"

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* ''MuppetBabies'': ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies'': Fozzie Bear. The jokes he tells are booed at regardless. Though it was subverted when Fozzie finally got fed up with the boos and decided to give up jokes. This eventually made everyone sad as they realized that seeing Fozzie miserable is worse than enduring his jokes and at least knowing ''he's'' happy. Piggy ultimately puts it best: "We love to hate your jokes!"
14th Mar '17 10:31:32 PM Karxrida
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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius''. When the Yolkians (the villains from TheMovie) come to the Earth, Jimmy says they're not to be trusted, [[CivilianVillain even after they seem harmless and give everyone free stuff]]. It turns out they ''were'' trying to destroy the Earth and were only giving them stuff to get on their good side. After saving the town, Jimmy makes them say "We were wrong and you were right" in English and French (and tries with Chinese, but nobody knows it). Really most of the time Jimmy is always right and will always be the one to solve the problem, [[IgnoredExpert but no one ever trusts him]] because [[InsufferableGenius he's such a jerk about it]] and half of the problems were [[NiceJobBreakingItHero caused by him in the first place]].

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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius''. When the Yolkians (the villains from TheMovie) come to the Earth, Jimmy says they're not to be trusted, [[CivilianVillain [[FalselyReformedVillain even after they seem harmless and give everyone free stuff]]. It turns out they ''were'' trying to destroy the Earth and were only giving them stuff to get on their good side. After saving the town, Jimmy makes them say "We were wrong and you were right" in English and French (and tries with Chinese, but nobody knows it). Really most of the time Jimmy is always right and will always be the one to solve the problem, [[IgnoredExpert but no one ever trusts him]] because [[InsufferableGenius he's such a jerk about it]] and half of the problems were [[NiceJobBreakingItHero caused by him in the first place]].
12th Mar '17 5:08:57 PM ElSquibbonator
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May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers if the majority judges a character for their cynical beliefs. Compare TallPoppySyndrome. Contrast with IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the sole complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit and/or PeerPressureMakesYouEvil. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the UnacceptableTarget.

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May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers if the majority judges a character for their cynical beliefs. Compare TallPoppySyndrome. Contrast with IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the sole complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit and/or PeerPressureMakesYouEvil.BlitheSpirit. Also contrast PeerPressureMakesYouEvil, where the Aesop is that you ''shouldn't'' go along with the group. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the UnacceptableTarget.
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