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25th Oct '12 9:19:28 PM mlsmithca
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''The Cleopatras'' is an eight-part historical miniseries produced by TheBBC in 1983 and written by Philip Mackie (whose previous historical mini-series writing credits included ''Series/TheCaesars'' for [[{{ITV}} Granada]] in 1968). The series opens up with one of the titular Cleopatras (the one most familiar to us---the one who later fell in love with Julius Caesar and Marc Antony) being told the stories of all of the other Cleopatras in her family (her mothers, aunts, grandmothers and great - grandmothers) via a history lesson. After the histories of all of the past Cleopatras have been explored, the story continues to detail the life of the last of the Cleopatras, who committed suicide via asp bite after losing the Battle of Actium.

The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''Series/IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to Website/YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].


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!!This series provides examples of:

* AffablyEvil: Fluter just wants to be a nice guy, be a good ruler and play his flute. Of course, he'll cold-bloodedly off any family members who cross him but that's pretty par for the course for an Egyptian Ruler.
* TheAlcoholic: Pot Belly and Alexander are epic drinkers. Although Marc Antony could probably drink them both under the table.
* TheAtoner: Pharoah Pot Belly decides to ''appear'' to become one of these later in his reign. This isn't because he's generally sorry for the things he's done. He just wants to repair his ZeroPercentApprovalRating which came about thanks to his previous "massacre people randomly to keep them in line" method of ruling.
* AssholeVictim: A great many of the family members who get bumped off during the series are these. Even the ''children'', (although that's probably only because they've been spoiled into insufferability thanks to their rank.)
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Happens so often in this series, it actually starts to become mundane.
* BrotherSisterIncest: A hallmark of the Egyptian Royal Family.
* ColdBloodedTorture: Cleopatra Selene and Cleopatra Tryphaena suffer this. One gets her hands chopped off while clinging to an altar for protection and the other gets her teeth ripped out before enduring a slow, painful execution.
* DrivenToSuicide: Fluter's brother (who had his kingdom stolen from him by the Romans) decided to put all of his treasure into three boats and sink them in order to keep the Romans from getting their hands on them. He originally planned to be on one of the boats as it sank, but opted for a quicker, easier death by poison.
* EasilyForgiven: Forgive an uncle who raped your daughter, murdered one of your brothers and beheaded your son? If doing so means you get to remain Queen of Egypt, sure!
* EmbarrassingNickname: Pot Belly and Chickpea. Also, the guy with bad body odor who wanted to marry one of the Cleopatras (and who was probably suffering from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria trimethylaminuria]]) was called "Fish Peddler" thanks to his smell.
* ForTheEvulz: Pot Belly often jerked around members of his own family, purely for his own amusement.
* InfantImmortality: Averted. This was Truth in Television, sadly.
* MeaningfulName: Averted in universe. Chick Pea was given his nickname precisely ''because'' it had no meaning (and was most likely bestowed on him by his father just to annoy him.)
* OffingTheOffspring: Happened a lot, as did Offing the Siblings, {{Patricide}}, etc. The Egyptian royal family was full of AntagonisticOffspring and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. If you were an Egyptian ruler and weren't sleeping with a close relative, you were probably trying to kill him. It was just in the nature of how power was acquired back in those days.
* OneSteveLimit: Averted. Several members of the family throughout several generations share the same names. (Which is why many family members are identified by second names or nicknames.)
* RoyallyScrewedUp: Of course!
* SeekingSanctuary: Several characters try to seek sanctuary from their murderous relatives in temples, but this never, ever works. One wonders why they keep bothering to try it.
* WeHaveReserves: Fluter orders the execution of his traitorous daughter. When someone expresses shock at him offing his child, he calmly explains that he has several more, as if the ''number'' of expendable heirs at his disposal were the only issue...
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''The Cleopatras'' is an eight-part historical miniseries produced by TheBBC in 1983 and written by Philip Mackie (whose previous historical mini-series writing credits included ''Series/TheCaesars'' for [[{{ITV}} Granada]] in 1968). The series opens up with one of the titular Cleopatras (the one most familiar to us---the one who later fell in love with Julius Caesar and Marc Antony) being told the stories of all of the other Cleopatras in her family (her mothers, aunts, grandmothers and great - grandmothers) via a history lesson. After the histories of all of the past Cleopatras have been explored, the story continues to detail the life of the last of the Cleopatras, who committed suicide via asp bite after losing the Battle of Actium.

The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''Series/IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to Website/YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].


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!!This series provides examples of:

* AffablyEvil: Fluter just wants to be a nice guy, be a good ruler and play his flute. Of course, he'll cold-bloodedly off any family members who cross him but that's pretty par for the course for an Egyptian Ruler.
* TheAlcoholic: Pot Belly and Alexander are epic drinkers. Although Marc Antony could probably drink them both under the table.
* TheAtoner: Pharoah Pot Belly decides to ''appear'' to become one of these later in his reign. This isn't because he's generally sorry for the things he's done. He just wants to repair his ZeroPercentApprovalRating which came about thanks to his previous "massacre people randomly to keep them in line" method of ruling.
* AssholeVictim: A great many of the family members who get bumped off during the series are these. Even the ''children'', (although that's probably only because they've been spoiled into insufferability thanks to their rank.)
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Happens so often in this series, it actually starts to become mundane.
* BrotherSisterIncest: A hallmark of the Egyptian Royal Family.
* ColdBloodedTorture: Cleopatra Selene and Cleopatra Tryphaena suffer this. One gets her hands chopped off while clinging to an altar for protection and the other gets her teeth ripped out before enduring a slow, painful execution.
* DrivenToSuicide: Fluter's brother (who had his kingdom stolen from him by the Romans) decided to put all of his treasure into three boats and sink them in order to keep the Romans from getting their hands on them. He originally planned to be on one of the boats as it sank, but opted for a quicker, easier death by poison.
* EasilyForgiven: Forgive an uncle who raped your daughter, murdered one of your brothers and beheaded your son? If doing so means you get to remain Queen of Egypt, sure!
* EmbarrassingNickname: Pot Belly and Chickpea. Also, the guy with bad body odor who wanted to marry one of the Cleopatras (and who was probably suffering from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria trimethylaminuria]]) was called "Fish Peddler" thanks to his smell.
* ForTheEvulz: Pot Belly often jerked around members of his own family, purely for his own amusement.
* InfantImmortality: Averted. This was Truth in Television, sadly.
* MeaningfulName: Averted in universe. Chick Pea was given his nickname precisely ''because'' it had no meaning (and was most likely bestowed on him by his father just to annoy him.)
* OffingTheOffspring: Happened a lot, as did Offing the Siblings, {{Patricide}}, etc. The Egyptian royal family was full of AntagonisticOffspring and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. If you were an Egyptian ruler and weren't sleeping with a close relative, you were probably trying to kill him. It was just in the nature of how power was acquired back in those days.
* OneSteveLimit: Averted. Several members of the family throughout several generations share the same names. (Which is why many family members are identified by second names or nicknames.)
* RoyallyScrewedUp: Of course!
* SeekingSanctuary: Several characters try to seek sanctuary from their murderous relatives in temples, but this never, ever works. One wonders why they keep bothering to try it.
* WeHaveReserves: Fluter orders the execution of his traitorous daughter. When someone expresses shock at him offing his child, he calmly explains that he has several more, as if the ''number'' of expendable heirs at his disposal were the only issue...
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10th Oct '12 2:48:45 PM Sheora
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10th Oct '12 2:44:53 PM Sheora
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* InfantImmortality: Completely averted. This was Truth in Television, sadly.

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* InfantImmortality: Completely averted.Averted. This was Truth in Television, sadly.



* OneSteveLimit: Averted hard. Several members of the family throughout several generations share the same names. (Which is why many family members are identified by second names or nicknames.)

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* OneSteveLimit: Averted hard.Averted. Several members of the family throughout several generations share the same names. (Which is why many family members are identified by second names or nicknames.)
29th Sep '12 6:59:38 PM mlsmithca
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''The Cleopatras'' is an eight-part historical miniseries produced by TheBBC in 1983 and written by Philip Mackie. The series opens up with one of the titular Cleopatras (the one most familiar to us---the one who later fell in love with Julius Caesar and Marc Antony) being told the stories of all of the other Cleopatras in her family (her mothers, aunts, grandmothers and great - grandmothers) via a history lesson. After the histories of all of the past Cleopatras have been explored, the story continues to detail the life of the last of the Cleopatras, who committed suicide via asp bite after losing the Battle of Actium.

The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to Website/YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].


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''The Cleopatras'' is an eight-part historical miniseries produced by TheBBC in 1983 and written by Philip Mackie.Mackie (whose previous historical mini-series writing credits included ''Series/TheCaesars'' for [[{{ITV}} Granada]] in 1968). The series opens up with one of the titular Cleopatras (the one most familiar to us---the one who later fell in love with Julius Caesar and Marc Antony) being told the stories of all of the other Cleopatras in her family (her mothers, aunts, grandmothers and great - grandmothers) via a history lesson. After the histories of all of the past Cleopatras have been explored, the story continues to detail the life of the last of the Cleopatras, who committed suicide via asp bite after losing the Battle of Actium.

The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''IClaudius'' ''Series/IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to Website/YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].




* EmbarrassingNickname: Pot Belly and Chickpea. Also, the guy with bad body odor who wanted to marry one of the Cleopatras (and who was probably suffering from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria trimethylaminuria]] ) was called "Fish Peddler" thanks to his smell.

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* EmbarrassingNickname: Pot Belly and Chickpea. Also, the guy with bad body odor who wanted to marry one of the Cleopatras (and who was probably suffering from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria trimethylaminuria]] ) trimethylaminuria]]) was called "Fish Peddler" thanks to his smell.
28th Sep '12 7:19:38 AM mlsmithca
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.
4th Aug '12 1:45:51 PM FELH2
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The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].


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The series was lavishly mounted and there were high hopes that it would become the ''IClaudius'' of the 1980s. Critical reception however, was quite mixed. This might have been due to the wry "horror-comic" tone of the series, when another approach might have suited the material better. Or it might have had something to do with the surreal production design and effects, which made copious use of the "video toaster". Or it might have had something to do with the rather anachronistic progressive rock-esque soundtrack. Whatever the reason, the series vanished into the annals of television and to this day still hasn't had a proper DVD release, although it has been uploaded to YouTube.Website/YouTube. You can catch the first episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHucSYFoTg here]].




* BrotherSisterIncest: A hallmark of the Egyptian Royal Family.

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* BrotherSisterIncest: A hallmark of the Egyptian Royal Family.



* ForTheEvulz: Pot Belly often jerked around members of his own family, purely for his own amusement.

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* ForTheEvulz: Pot Belly often jerked around members of his own family, purely for his own amusement.
21st Apr '12 3:04:45 AM Amethyst
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the time the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the time the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.
21st Apr '12 3:04:24 AM Amethyst
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* Darkness-InducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the time the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.

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* Darkness-InducedAudienceApathy: DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the time the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.
21st Apr '12 3:04:10 AM Amethyst
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* Darkness-InducedAudienceApathy: Probably one of the reasons this production flopped so badly. It becomes apparent long before the time the last Cleopatra takes the throne that this family isn't going to get any better.
23rd Feb '12 4:36:28 PM Amethyst
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* OffingTheOffspring: Happened a lot, as did Offing the Siblings, {{Patricide}}, etc. The Egyptian royal family was full of AntagonisticOffspring and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. If you were an Egyptian and weren't sleeping with a close relative, you were probably trying to kill him. It was just in the nature of how power was acquired back in those days.

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* OffingTheOffspring: Happened a lot, as did Offing the Siblings, {{Patricide}}, etc. The Egyptian royal family was full of AntagonisticOffspring and {{Evil Matriarch}}s. If you were an Egyptian ruler and weren't sleeping with a close relative, you were probably trying to kill him. It was just in the nature of how power was acquired back in those days.
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