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28th May '18 12:14:04 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[TheNotSoPhonyPsychic Professor Trelawny]] is a bizarre version, in that she's her own Cassandra- she tends to dismiss the prophecies she makes that actually come true (like the tarot cards that tell her that a 'dark young man, possibly troubled, one who dislikes the questioner" is nearby when Harry's hiding near her, and not remembering her true prophecies at all), and seems to believe more fervently in the hogwash ones (although she may be pulling a [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]] and unable to overcome her inner doubt no matter how much she wants to). It's also played straight, as Trelawney is widely considered a loony and no one actually puts much stock in her prophecies (although Dumbledore knows better, since he's been on the receiving end of one of her True Prophecies). Most of the predictions she makes are dismissed by the cast as rubbish, but a re-read of the books shows that her predictions ''do'' actually provide a lot of foreshadowing and almost always come true in some way or another (i.e. Trelawney sees a large black dog connected with Harry, which is really Sirius's Animagus form).

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** [[TheNotSoPhonyPsychic [[NotSoPhonyPsychic Professor Trelawny]] is a bizarre version, in that she's her own Cassandra- she tends to dismiss the prophecies she makes that actually come true (like the tarot cards that tell her that a 'dark young man, possibly troubled, one who dislikes the questioner" is nearby when Harry's hiding near her, and not remembering her true prophecies at all), and seems to believe more fervently in the hogwash ones (although she may be pulling a [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]] and unable to overcome her inner doubt no matter how much she wants to). It's also played straight, as Trelawney is widely considered a loony and no one actually puts much stock in her prophecies (although Dumbledore knows better, since he's been on the receiving end of one of her True Prophecies). Most of the predictions she makes are dismissed by the cast as rubbish, but a re-read of the books shows that her predictions ''do'' actually provide a lot of foreshadowing and almost always come true in some way or another (i.e. Trelawney sees a large black dog connected with Harry, which is really Sirius's Animagus form).
28th May '18 12:13:11 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Averted in "The Eleventh Hour". He warns the Atraxi against messing with Earth and tells them to run. They do. ''Really really fast.''

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** Averted in "The Eleventh Hour". He warns the Atraxi against messing with Earth and tells them to run. They do. ''Really ''[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere Really really fast.fast]].''



** Professor Trelawny is a reverse Cassandra, as the only time she dismisses one of her predictions is when it's correct. A more subtle one occurs in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]''. Harry is hiding from Trelawny, who's wandering drunkenly through the school, and pulling cards from a deck. Though it's never stated, it's entirely possible she's doing a reading on Harry. One of the cards she interprets as meaning the subject dislikes her (Harry can't stand Trelawny). She thinks about it for a second, and says "that can't be right," and starts going through the cards again. She also plays the trope straight on several occasions. When she does make an accurate prediction, her reputation means that nobody takes it seriously. This includes Harry shrugging off the prophecy about [[spoiler:Pettigrew escaping]] and her statement that the first to "rise from" the staff table will die first [[spoiler:which is true on both counts for Dumbledore]].

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** [[TheNotSoPhonyPsychic Professor Trelawny Trelawny]] is a reverse Cassandra, as bizarre version, in that she's her own Cassandra- she tends to dismiss the only time prophecies she dismisses makes that actually come true (like the tarot cards that tell her that a 'dark young man, possibly troubled, one who dislikes the questioner" is nearby when Harry's hiding near her, and not remembering her true prophecies at all), and seems to believe more fervently in the hogwash ones (although she may be pulling a [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]] and unable to overcome her inner doubt no matter how much she wants to). It's also played straight, as Trelawney is widely considered a loony and no one actually puts much stock in her prophecies (although Dumbledore knows better, since he's been on the receiving end of one of her True Prophecies). Most of the predictions she makes are dismissed by the cast as rubbish, but a re-read of the books shows that her predictions is when it's correct. A more subtle one occurs in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]''. Harry is hiding from Trelawny, who's wandering drunkenly through the school, ''do'' actually provide a lot of foreshadowing and pulling cards from a deck. Though it's never stated, it's entirely possible she's doing a reading on Harry. One of the cards she interprets as meaning the subject dislikes her (Harry can't stand Trelawny). She thinks about it for a second, and says "that can't be right," and starts going through the cards again. She also plays the trope straight on several occasions. When she does make an accurate prediction, her reputation means that nobody takes it seriously. This includes Harry shrugging off the prophecy about [[spoiler:Pettigrew escaping]] and her statement that the first to "rise from" the staff table will die first [[spoiler:which is almost always come true on both counts for Dumbledore]].in some way or another (i.e. Trelawney sees a large black dog connected with Harry, which is really Sirius's Animagus form).
8th Apr '18 12:44:14 PM ericjamesseitz
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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* [[redirect:Trope/Creator's Favorite]] *cough*

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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* [[redirect:Trope/Creator's Favorite]] CreatorsFavorite *cough*
8th Apr '18 12:43:32 PM ericjamesseitz
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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* [[redirect: trope/Creator's Favorite]] *cough*

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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* [[redirect: trope/Creator's [[redirect:Trope/Creator's Favorite]] *cough*
8th Apr '18 12:42:49 PM ericjamesseitz
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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* {{Creator's Favorite}} *cough*

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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* {{Creator's Favorite}} [[redirect: trope/Creator's Favorite]] *cough*
8th Apr '18 12:37:45 PM ericjamesseitz
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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* Creator'sPet *cough*

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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* Creator'sPet {{Creator's Favorite}} *cough*
8th Apr '18 12:35:32 PM ericjamesseitz
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* Though she isn't normally, Lydia Martin in TeenWolf is a Cassandra in the episode Riddled when she insists to the skeptical sheriff that she knows where Stiles is but turns out to be wrong. Throughout most of the series, this trope is averted by the fact that almost every main character at one point or another tells Lydia that they believe her about what she feels. Sounds like the writers reeeeally want us to see that Lydia's rarely wrong... *cough* Creator'sPet *cough*
7th Apr '18 12:16:08 PM gb00393
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** Varys is a light case of this as pretty much no-one in the series takes his advice and warnings seriously and it has a habit of coming back to bite everyone in the ass.
*** His warnings and attempts to advise Ned are not heeded until far too late.
*** His repeated attempts to get Shae out of harm's way by either attempting to bribe her or increasingly dire warnings to Tyrion are not heeded until the literal last minute, and ultimately fail.
*** His warnings to literally everyone about how dangerous Littlefinger is have been universally ignored despite the entire War of the Five Kings, the bankruptcy of Westeros, and the death of Joffrey all being Littlefinger's doing.
*** Jaime Lannister also noted to Brienne that Varys warned Aerys not to open the doors of King's Landing to Tywin, believing quite rightly that Tywin had scented a KingmakerScenario and wanted to finish Aerys and King's Landing for good.
18th Feb '18 11:07:42 AM nombretomado
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* ''Film/NicholasAndAlexandra''--Count Witte, the OnlySaneMan in Nicholas's government, begs the tsar to get out of an unnecessary war against Japan before it's too late. Nicholas refuses and the Russians suffer a humiliating defeat that nearly gets him overthrown. Later, Witte begs Nicholas not to go to war in 1914, explaining in detail all the horrific consequences. Again, Nicholas doesn't listen, and [[RedOctober total disaster]] follows.

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* ''Film/NicholasAndAlexandra''--Count Witte, the OnlySaneMan in Nicholas's government, begs the tsar to get out of an unnecessary war against Japan before it's too late. Nicholas refuses and the Russians suffer a humiliating defeat that nearly gets him overthrown. Later, Witte begs Nicholas not to go to war in 1914, explaining in detail all the horrific consequences. Again, Nicholas doesn't listen, and [[RedOctober [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober total disaster]] follows.
27th Jan '18 10:05:00 AM StevieC
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* On Monday, the 27th of January 1986, late at night, aerospace engineer Roger Boisjoly told his bosses at Morton Thiokol that the solid-rocket-boosters they built for the Space Shuttle were not capable of withstanding cold weather on launch-day, and warned that mission STS-51L needed warmer weather to launch, or else the shuttle stack would be blown to pieces. NASA countered that schoolteacher Christa McAuliffe was scheduled to give her students a lesson from space that Friday, and that President Reagan was to mention that fact in the State-of-the-Union address on Tuesday. 13 hours after Boisjoly's warning, 73 seconds after lifting off from the launch-pad at Kennedy Space Center, the starboard Solid Rocket Booster propelling Space Shuttle Challenger on STS-51L malfunctioned, triggering an explosion that tore the orbiter apart. Two and a half minutes later, the crew-compartment impacted the waters of the Atlantic Ocean, killing any crew that may have survived the initial explosion.

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* On Monday, the 27th of January 1986, late at night, aerospace engineer Roger Boisjoly told his bosses at Morton Thiokol that the solid-rocket-boosters they built for the Space Shuttle were not capable of withstanding cold weather on launch-day, and warned that mission STS-51L needed warmer weather to launch, or else the shuttle stack would be blown to pieces. NASA countered that schoolteacher Christa McAuliffe [=McAuliffe=] was scheduled to give her students a lesson from space that Friday, and that President Reagan was to mention that fact in the State-of-the-Union address on Tuesday. 13 hours after Boisjoly's warning, 73 seconds after lifting off from the launch-pad at Kennedy Space Center, the starboard Solid Rocket Booster propelling Space Shuttle Challenger on STS-51L malfunctioned, triggering an explosion that tore the orbiter apart. Two and a half minutes later, the crew-compartment impacted the waters of the Atlantic Ocean, killing any crew that may have survived the initial explosion.
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