History Main / TheCapitalOfBrazilIsBuenosAires

23rd Sep '16 8:00:36 AM PerfumePreppy
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||Brazilians dance the tango. ||The tango is Argentine. The most well-known Brazilian dance style is the samba, probably (though there are a variety of national dances, ranging from the folk ones, like baião and carimbó, to ones popular enough to be played in rock festival-like concerts, like forró and sertanejo, and of course, [[TheNineties the lambada]]). ||

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||Brazilians dance the tango. ||The ||There are two styles of tango is Argentine.-- ballroom and Argentine -- but neither originated in Brazil. The most well-known Brazilian dance style is the samba, probably (though there are a variety of national dances, ranging from the folk ones, like baião and carimbó, to ones popular enough to be played in rock festival-like concerts, like forró and sertanejo, and of course, [[TheNineties the lambada]]). ||
23rd Sep '16 7:58:03 AM PerfumePreppy
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||Women have very little freedom, are subservient to their husbands and fathers, do not work outside the home, and are treated as second-class citizens, while men hold misogynistic views. ||Women also are regarded as equals to men. They have the right to vote and participate in government. Women work in all sorts of occupations and many women go to college. The current president is a woman. Most men are not sexist give their wives plenty of freedom. ||

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||Women have very little freedom, are subservient to their husbands and fathers, do not work outside the home, and are treated as second-class citizens, while men hold misogynistic views. ||Women also are regarded as equals to men. They have the right to vote and participate in government. Women work in all sorts of occupations and many women go to college. The current president is a woman. Most men are not sexist and give their wives plenty of freedom. ||
1st Sep '16 12:17:48 AM The_Weirdo
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||The country is a BananaRepublic, governed by either a strongman or a military junta and filled with [[JailbirdOfPanama jailbirds of Brazil]] who were arrested for fighting against the oppressive regime, with wanton human rights violations. ||Brazil has been a democracy since 1985. Like most of Latin America, it did spend a long time (mostly due to the UsefulNotes/ColdWar) as a dictatorship (a far-right-leaning one backed by the US, worth noting), but it is now a constitutional democracy. For that matter, a former [[JailbirdOfPanama jailbird of Brazil]] is President. Although it is left-leaning, it is not nearly as far to the left as Argentina or Venezuela. ||
29th Aug '16 8:12:55 AM gayhazelmouse
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Brazil, as with other Latin American countries, is a constant victim of research failure, as most people around the world only know Brazil from tropes like this; as repeatedly mentioned above, Brazil is kinda like the United States, [[{{Dissimile}} except that it has jungles to speak of (Hawaii barely counts for the USA), was a quasi-single party state from '64 to '84, has more social-inequality problems (caused in no small part by said dictatorship), and speaks Portuguese]]. The social inequality has been changing a little in very recent times, though.

For the record, the real capital of Brazil is Brasília, which is no hamlet itself at 2.5 million people. Rio used to be the capital up until April 21, 1960, when Brasília was founded by then-Brazilian President [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juscelino_Kubitschek Juscelino Kubitschek]] (see? With a Czech name like that, he could be from Chicago!) It even is considered a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasília World Heritage Site]] by UNESCO (Buenos Aires is not in Brazil at all, but in neighboring Argentina). Brasília actually represents another similarity between Brazil and the United States: like UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC, it was a city [[SpaceBrasilia built from the ground up to be the national capital]], in a less than desirable physical environment (Washington, D.C. was built on a swamp, Brasília was built in the middle of the Cerrado (a savannah-like environment found mainly in Brazil's center and west) and their metropolitan areas are similar in population.

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Brazil, as with other Latin American countries, is a constant victim of research failure, as most people around the world only know Brazil from tropes like this; as repeatedly mentioned above, Brazil is kinda like the United States, [[{{Dissimile}} except that it has jungles to speak of (Hawaii barely counts for the USA), was a quasi-single party state from '64 to '84, has more social-inequality problems (caused in no small part by said dictatorship), and speaks Portuguese]]. The social inequality has been changing a little in very recent times, though.

this. For the record, the real capital of Brazil is Brasília, which is no hamlet itself at 2.5 million people. Rio used to be the capital up until April 21, 1960, when Brasília was founded by then-Brazilian President [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juscelino_Kubitschek Juscelino Kubitschek]] (see? With a Czech name like that, he could be from Chicago!) Kubitschek]]. It even is considered a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasília World Heritage Site]] by UNESCO (Buenos Aires is not in Brazil at all, but in neighboring Argentina). Brasília actually represents another similarity between Brazil and the United States: like UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC, it was a city [[SpaceBrasilia built from the ground up to be the national capital]], in a less than desirable physical environment (Washington, D.C. was built on a swamp, Brasília was built in the middle of the Cerrado (a savannah-like environment found mainly in Brazil's center and west) and their metropolitan areas are similar in population.
7th Jul '16 9:12:33 PM thatother1dude
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* The ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode "Blame It On Lisa" is full of these, deliberately used for humorous effect in its portrayal of Brazil, however they did lampshade one of the popular misconceptions by having Bart painstakingly learn Spanish for the trip ... [[RealityEnsues only to learn Brazilians speak Portuguese.]] A few things were brilliantly correct, such as the steakhouse with meat in swords and the colorful currency ("Ahh, look at all that pink and purple[[note]]Respectively R$ 10 and R$ 5; other banknotes include R$ 2 (white), R$ 20 (yellow), R$ 50 (amber) and R$ 100 (sky blue); the only green Brazilian Real banknote was R$ 1, which has since been discontinued[[/note]]". "Our money sure is gay").
** One particular geographical slip is for the kidnappers to take Homer, whom they kidnapped in Rio, all the way to the Amazon forest, a couple thousand miles away.
** For the record, this episode is actually [[BannedInChina banned for broadcast]] in Brazil, except if you have FOX on cable, where it's shown regularly like any other episode. It only aired for ''exactly three times'' on television, then many Brazilians (from normal citizens to senators) went crazy at how "demoralizing" the episode was, not knowing that ''The Simpsons'' mocks every country they come across, even [[{{Eagleland}} their own]]. Still the ban took full effect, and takes even now; FOX managed to get the episode available in Brazil only for DVD volumes.
*** Which is understandable, as not many people in a country would feel comfortable if a foreign show would mock their country and possibly ruin its tourism, like happened in Brazil. Creator/{{FOX}} later apologized to Brazilians for the controversial episode and made them an offer to loose tensions. Also, bear in mind that in Brazil (like in the rest of Latin America) there is historically a strong anti-imperialistic sentiment (the support the military dictatorship received from the USA doesn't help matters) and so these jokes are interpreted as hypocritical insults.
*** Then again, it can be seem as a weird case of real life research failure, as we are talking about ''The Simpsons'', a TV show that mocks every country it ever portrayed... [[{{Eagleland}} their own more than anyone else's]]. It's argued that all the fuss the episode raised was caused mostly by certain TV channels (by that, read the most influential) playing Fourth Estate. The lawsuit by Rio's tourism department was lifted, but the show's producers still declared that Homer Simpson would gladly meet president Fernando Henrique Cardoso in ''Celebrity Boxing''.
*** In a later episode, the Simpsons went to a place Lisa considered the worst they've been in until Bart mentioned Brazil and then she corrected to ''second'' worst. When that episode was dubbed for Brazilian audiences, that dialogue was changed to exclude mentions of Brazil.
*** Brazilian website Charges.com.br actually defended ''The Simpsons'' by writing a fictitious meeting between Homer and Bart with then-President of Brazil Fernando Henrique Cardoso (FHC). When both Simpson males mentioned their ideas to remake the episode showing a more real Brazil, FHC told them to let the episode as it was.

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* The ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Simpsons]]'' episode ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
**
"Blame It On Lisa" is full of these, deliberately used for humorous effect in its portrayal of Brazil, however they did lampshade one of the popular misconceptions by having Bart painstakingly learn Spanish for the trip ... [[RealityEnsues only to learn Brazilians speak Portuguese.]] A few things were brilliantly correct, such as the steakhouse with meat in swords and the colorful currency ("Ahh, look at all that pink and purple[[note]]Respectively R$ 10 and R$ 5; other banknotes include R$ 2 (white), R$ 20 (yellow), R$ 50 (amber) and R$ 100 (sky blue); the only green Brazilian Real banknote was R$ 1, which has since been discontinued[[/note]]". "Our money sure is gay").
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gay"). One particular geographical slip is for the kidnappers to take Homer, whom they kidnapped in Rio, all the way to the Amazon forest, a couple thousand miles away.
** For the record, this
away. This episode is actually [[BannedInChina banned for broadcast]] in Brazil, except if you have FOX on cable, where it's shown regularly like any other episode. It only aired for ''exactly three times'' on television, then many Brazilians (from normal citizens to senators) went crazy at how "demoralizing" the episode was, not knowing that ''The Simpsons'' mocks every country they come across, even [[{{Eagleland}} their own]]. Still the ban took full effect, and takes even now; FOX managed to get the episode available in Brazil only for DVD volumes.
*** Which is understandable, as not many people in a country would feel comfortable if a foreign show would mock their country and possibly ruin its tourism, like happened in Brazil. Creator/{{FOX}} later apologized to Brazilians for the controversial episode and made them an offer to loose tensions. Also, bear in mind that in Brazil (like in the rest of Latin America) there is historically a strong anti-imperialistic sentiment (the support the military dictatorship received from the USA doesn't help matters) and so these jokes are interpreted as hypocritical insults.
*** Then again, it can be seem as a weird case of real life research failure, as we are talking about ''The Simpsons'', a TV show that mocks every country it ever portrayed... [[{{Eagleland}} their own more than anyone else's]]. It's argued that all the fuss the episode raised was caused mostly by certain TV channels (by that, read the most influential) playing Fourth Estate. The lawsuit by Rio's tourism department was lifted, but the show's producers still declared that Homer Simpson would gladly meet president Fernando Henrique Cardoso in ''Celebrity Boxing''.
*** In a later episode, the Simpsons went to a place Lisa considered the worst they've been in until Bart mentioned Brazil and then she corrected to ''second'' worst. When that episode was dubbed for Brazilian audiences, that dialogue was changed to exclude mentions of Brazil.
*** Brazilian website Charges.com.br actually defended ''The Simpsons'' by writing a fictitious meeting between Homer and Bart with then-President of Brazil Fernando Henrique Cardoso (FHC). When both Simpson males mentioned their ideas to remake the episode showing a more real Brazil, FHC told them to let the episode as it was.
episode.
7th Jul '16 9:10:19 PM thatother1dude
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Whenever you see a Brazilian (or really, any South American) in fiction, expect him to look like a stereotypical Mexican or Latino. Also, whenever TheHero goes to Brazil for whatever reason [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans it will be during Carnaval. Always.]][[note]]Though, there are festivals all year round, for different things and in different places, in most Latin countries.[[/note]] Well, it would be easier to just make a list of what is wrong with Brazil in fiction:

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Whenever you see a Brazilian (or really, any South American) in fiction, [[LatinoIsBrown expect him to look like a stereotypical Mexican or Latino.Latino]]. Also, whenever TheHero goes to Brazil for whatever reason [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans it will be during Carnaval. Always.]][[note]]Though, there are festivals all year round, for different things and in different places, in most Latin countries.[[/note]] Well, it would be easier to just make a list of what is wrong with Brazil in fiction:
29th May '16 9:14:17 AM JamesAustin
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* Rare aversion in ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. Bruce Banner isn't in a favela because he happens to be in Brazil, he's in a favela because he doesn't want to be found.
** ''The Incredible Hulk'' subverted this in many ways, including showing the ethnic diversity, Bruce Banner going to great lengths to learn Portuguese (and struggling with it), people in favelas shown to actually work, it [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans not being Carnival]], among some minor details.
*** They could have hired national actors, though, or at least try better at the accent thing. It's like someone making a film about the US, only everyone talks like Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
* Kind of averted in the infamous movie ''Woman on Top'', where Brazil is portrayed avoiding most of the topics above mentioned, but still the main heroine was interpreted by [[FakeNationality a Spanish actress]] (Creator/PenelopeCruz), and for a famous restaurant the place was strangely decaying.
** WordOfGod says that they were going to cast a Brazilian actress, but Penelope Cruz was just too damn good to miss.

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* Rare aversion in ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. Bruce Banner isn't in a favela because he happens to be in Brazil, he's in a favela because he doesn't want to be found.
** ''The Incredible Hulk'' subverted this in many ways, including showing
found, the ethnic diversity, diversity is shown, Bruce Banner going to great lengths to learn Portuguese (and struggling with it), people in favelas shown to actually work, it [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans not being Carnival]], among some minor details.
*** They could have hired national actors, though, or at least try better at the accent thing. It's like someone making a film about the US, only everyone talks like Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
* Kind of averted in the infamous movie ''Woman on Top'', where Brazil is portrayed avoiding most of the topics above mentioned, but still the main heroine was interpreted by [[FakeNationality a Spanish actress]] (Creator/PenelopeCruz), and for a famous restaurant the place was strangely decaying.
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decaying. WordOfGod says that they were going to cast a Brazilian actress, but Penelope Cruz was just too damn good to miss.
16th May '16 12:44:56 PM MagmaDragoon
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* Averted in ''VideoGame/SonicWings 2'', where the Brazilian stage is set on a hidden military base within the Pantanal wetlands.
** Gets better in ''Sonic Wings Special'', where the stage is revisited. Not only it is correctly named "Mato Grosso" (one of the Brazilian states where the Pantanal is located), it is also possible to see the local fauna in the background, like a flock of flamingos which fly over on the midway point of the stage.



** And it's back again for ''Street Fighter V''. The Brazilian stage is set on a favela on Rio de Janeiro (a pretty faithful recreation at that), but one of the background characters is a dancer on Carnaval costume, even though there are no signs on the stage that it is set during Carnaval.



** The ''King of Fighters 2001'' averts this somehow, by having a Brazilian stage set in the Interlagos Racetrack.

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** The ''King of Fighters 2001'' averts this somehow, this, by having a Brazilian stage set in the Interlagos Racetrack.Racetrack.
** In the reveal trailers for ''The King of Fighters XIV'' one of the newcomers and member of the South America team was revealed as a Brazilian [[InstantAwesomeJustAddNinja ninja]] by the name of "Banderas", which instantly caused an uproar among the Brazilian fans since Banderas is a Spanish name. SNK apparently caught word on this, and by the next trailer his name was fixed to "Bandeiras", a more proper Brazilian name.
** XIV also averts the trope with it's South American stage, which is set on the Iguazu Falls, near the triple frontier between Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay.
5th Mar '16 11:47:26 PM arrgh
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||Women have very little freedom, are subservient to their husbands and fathers, do not work outside the home, and are treated as second-class citizens, while men ascribe to machismo, and hold misogynistic views. ||Women also are regarded as equals to men. They have the right to vote and participate in government. Women work in all sorts of occupations and many women go to college. The current president is a woman. Most men no longer ascribe to machismo and give their wives plenty of freedom. ||

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||Women have very little freedom, are subservient to their husbands and fathers, do not work outside the home, and are treated as second-class citizens, while men ascribe to machismo, and hold misogynistic views. ||Women also are regarded as equals to men. They have the right to vote and participate in government. Women work in all sorts of occupations and many women go to college. The current president is a woman. Most men no longer ascribe to machismo and are not sexist give their wives plenty of freedom. ||
20th Feb '16 7:45:09 PM BoldAsLove
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||[[LatinLover All women and most men are insanely beautiful]] ([[SpicyLatina and slutty]], if the fiction work in question is particularly fond of stereotypes). The Latino stereotype pervades, down to the cultural references. Black people are virtually unseen. ||Black people are rarer than in the US, but various white/black mixes are very common. Brazil has a ''massively'' mixed population with immigrants from all over Europe and Asia. People of all levels of physical attractiveness exist - from gorgeous to hideous. ||

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||[[LatinLover All women and most men are insanely beautiful]] ([[SpicyLatina and slutty]], if the fiction work in question is particularly fond of stereotypes). The Latino stereotype pervades, down to the cultural references. Black people are virtually unseen. ||Black people are rarer than in ||Brazil has one of the US, biggest Black populations outside of Africa, but various white/black mixes are very common. Brazil has a ''massively'' mixed population with immigrants from all over Europe and Asia. People of all levels of physical attractiveness exist - from gorgeous to hideous. ||
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