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22nd Aug '16 11:36:52 AM Ymirsdaughter
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* Heavy lies the crown for any poor sap born into the [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Atreides]] bloodline, especially highlighted in ''Literature/DuneMessiah'' for Paul, ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune'' for Leto II and ''Literature/ChapterhouseDune'' for Odrade.

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* Heavy lies the crown for any poor sap born into the [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Atreides]] bloodline, especially highlighted in ''Literature/DuneMessiah'' for Paul, ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune'' for Leto II and ''Literature/ChapterhouseDune'' for Odrade. Alia cracks under hers in ''Literature/ChildrenOfDune.
14th Aug '16 6:26:33 PM PaulA
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* Emperor Gregor Vorbarra, in LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga''. He has been emperor since the age of six, and both of his parents were killed by political intrigue by the same period. He hates every second of it and would give quite a lot to pass the job to someone else, and attempts suicide in his twenties to escape the pressures. He gradually grows to accept the responsibilities and is more settled of the role over time, helped by being HappilyMarried.

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* Emperor Gregor Vorbarra, in LoisMcMasterBujold's Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga''. He has been emperor since the age of six, and both of his parents were killed by political intrigue by the same period. He hates every second of it and would give quite a lot to pass the job to someone else, and attempts suicide in his twenties to escape the pressures. He gradually grows to accept the responsibilities and is more settled of the role over time, helped by being HappilyMarried.
10th Aug '16 7:28:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Fred-104, Master Chief's second in command, suffers from a mild bout of this when he takes the rest of the [[SuperSoldiers Spartan-II]]s down to defend the planet [[DoomedHometown Reach]]. It doesn't help when four Spartans die just in the initial drop - already the most to die in a single mission in the unit's history.

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In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Fred-104, Master Chief's second in command, suffers from a mild bout of this when he takes the rest of the [[SuperSoldiers Spartan-II]]s down to defend the planet [[DoomedHometown Reach]]. It doesn't help when four Spartans die just in the initial drop - already the most to die in a single mission in the unit's history.history.
** In the ''Literature/HaloEvolutions'' story ''The Impossible Life and the Possible Death of Preston J. Cole'', this is believed to be the reason why Admiral Cole, the man who was leading humanity's forces against the Covenant, [[spoiler:seemingly decided to fake his death and live somewhere far away from the war]].
10th Aug '16 7:24:06 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse - Fred-104, Master Chief's second in command, suffers from a mild bout of this when he takes the rest of the [[SuperSoldiers SPARTAN-II]]s down to defend the planet [[DoomedHometown Reach]]. It doesn't help when four Spartans die in the initial drop - the most to die in a single mission in the unit's history.

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse - ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Fred-104, Master Chief's second in command, suffers from a mild bout of this when he takes the rest of the [[SuperSoldiers SPARTAN-II]]s Spartan-II]]s down to defend the planet [[DoomedHometown Reach]]. It doesn't help when four Spartans die just in the initial drop - already the most to die in a single mission in the unit's history.
4th Aug '16 11:54:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' novels the young elven princess Laurana suffers from this during her time as the [[RedBaron Golden General]]. [[spoiler:The immense stress she is under ends up making her highly susceptible to FlawExploitation at the hands of her ArchEnemy Kitiara.]]

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* In the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' novels the young elven princess Laurana suffers from this during her time as the [[RedBaron Golden General]]. [[spoiler:The immense stress she is under ends up making her highly susceptible to FlawExploitation at the hands of her ArchEnemy Kitiara.]]



* TheCaineMutiny is almost This Page: The Novel. It's implied that it's what caused Queeg to go off the rails. The captain before him was somewhat eccentric; the one trained to replace him laments that he walks a razor's edge of correct decisions, with 100 manslaughters on either side.
* Discussed all over the place in the ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, with every good ruler (including mercenary Captains like Kerowyn) feeling the pinch of isolation and responsibility for their people. In Valdemar, the position of Monarch's Own Herald is explicitly to give the King or Queen one person around whom they can relax and be themselves; one Herald they can trust completely and come to for brutally-honest advice.

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* TheCaineMutiny ''Literature/TheCaineMutiny'' is almost This Page: The Novel. It's implied that it's what caused Queeg to go off the rails. The captain before him was somewhat eccentric; the one trained to replace him laments that he walks a razor's edge of correct decisions, with 100 manslaughters on either side.
* Discussed all over the place in the ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, with every good ruler (including mercenary Captains like Kerowyn) feeling the pinch of isolation and responsibility for their people. In Valdemar, the position of Monarch's Own Herald is explicitly to give the King or Queen one person around whom they can relax and be themselves; one Herald they can trust completely and come to for brutally-honest advice.
19th Jul '16 1:24:32 AM Tron80
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* As seen in the ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}''/Franchise/GreenLantern crossover ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'', Guy Gardner is the unofficial leader of the Red Lanterns who havenít sided with [[BigBad Atrocitus]]. Itís a very distressing job leading a team of psychotic, short-tempered, berserk {{Blood Knight}}s with little regard for authority, especially when he tries to be the voice of reason, and his new role has driven a wedge between him and his former friends, his familyÖ



* ''Fanfic/ABoyAGirlAndADogTheLeithianScript'': In this ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' story elven king Finrod For several centuries had to be calm, rational, responsible and level-headed to hold himself together, hold his kingdom together, hold the Leaguer against [[GodOfEvil Morgoth]] together, mediate between their short-tempered relatives, compatriots and all free people in the sub-continent and take care of his subjects. And he often had to deal people like pawns to achieve some greater good. He was so sick and distressed that when he finally got killed he actually found the Afterlife relaxing.

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* ''Fanfic/ABoyAGirlAndADogTheLeithianScript'': In this ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' story story, elven king Finrod For several centuries had to be calm, rational, responsible and level-headed for several centuries to hold himself together, hold his kingdom together, hold the Leaguer Alliance against [[GodOfEvil Morgoth]] together, mediate between their short-tempered relatives, compatriots and all free people in the sub-continent and take care of his subjects. And he often had to deal treat people like pawns to achieve some greater good. He was so sick and distressed that when he finally got killed he actually found the Afterlife relaxing.



* ''Fanfic/{{HERZ}}'': Misato is Director of HERZ. Its organization is the only things stands between the humanity and its annihilation. Throughout the years she has been forced to make many distasteful things that she feels conflicted and remorseful about to ensure the future of her family and the survival of the humanity. In the process she has become grimmer and more serious, and too similar to Gendo Ikari to her liking.

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* ''Fanfic/{{HERZ}}'': Misato is Director of HERZ. Its Her organization is the only things stands thing standing between the humanity and its total annihilation. Throughout the years she has been forced to make many distasteful things that she feels conflicted and remorseful about to ensure the future of her family and the survival of the humanity. In the process she has become grimmer and more serious, and too similar to Gendo Ikari to her liking.
12th Jul '16 7:56:25 PM DVB
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode 'Boss Mabel', Mabel gets to run the Mystery Shack for three days while Grunkle Stan goes on vacation. By the end of the episode we learn that when your employees are TheSlacker and a ManChild, the only way to get things done is to get tough, and Mabel is more than happy to let Stan have the reins back.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode 'Boss Mabel', Mabel gets to run the Mystery Shack for three days while Grunkle Stan goes on vacation. vacation as part of a bet. By the end of the episode episode, we learn that when your employees are TheSlacker and a ManChild, the only way to get things done is to get tough, tough while using genuine monsters (or at least large intelligent ones) as your exhibits puts alot of people at risk, hence why fake exhibits are used, no matter how fake. When Stan returns and Mabel is more than happy to let Stan have wins the bet, she gives the reins back.back to Stan, admitting the trouble in regards to managing the job.



* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'': The main reason why the Soopreme Leader of the KND is chosen in a game of tag is because ''nobody wants the job'', specifically for this reason (and the fact that it's tedious and consumes a lot of free time). Nonetheless, the possibility of [[TheMillstone Numbuh 13]] becoming Soopreme Leader is enough for many operatives to forgo that if the organization is to stay standing.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'': The main reason why the Soopreme Leader of the KND is chosen in a game of tag is because ''nobody wants the job'', specifically for this reason (and the fact that it's tedious and consumes a lot of free time). Nonetheless, the possibility of Despite this, when [[TheMillstone Numbuh 13]] becoming is tagged and he happily proclaims he'll be Soopreme Leader Leader, he is enough for insantly dogpiled by many surrounding operatives in order to forgo get tagged, knowing that if the organization is to stay standing.
12th Jul '16 7:41:37 PM DVB
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* Fleet Admiral Sengoku from ''Manga/OnePiece'' is a very tragic example. He obviously has to do things he doesn't like as befitting his position, and even ends up getting screwed by his own superiors when he's not having to handle pirates. The last straw was the World Government's decision to cover up a mass breakout of several extremely dangerous Impel Down prisoners ''just to save their reputation''. While Sengoku may have done questionable things over the years, he has acted for the good of the world. However, the World Government's decision to cover up the entire incident all together was so bad that he retired on the spot. Two years later, though largely retired he still maintains a position within the Marines with less responsibility and is ''far'' more relaxed and cheerful.
** Several other Marines are shown to struggle with this trope. Garp actively avoided it, refusing any and all attempts to promote him to Admiral and stepped down to a lower rank in the same manner as Sengoku over the coverup. Kuzan had no interest in Sengoku's job and only even tried for it to prevent the zealous Sakazuki from taking it. And after the timeskip it's already wearing on Sakazuki, with his bosses the Five Elder Stars pushing him to make decisions even his ruthless sense of justice doesn't agree with for the sake of the government saving face at the cost of the Marines' honor.

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* Fleet Admiral Sengoku from ''Manga/OnePiece'' is a very tragic example. He obviously has to do things he doesn't like as befitting his position, and even ends up getting screwed by his own superiors when he's not having to handle pirates. The last straw was the World Government's decision to cover up a mass breakout of several extremely dangerous Impel Down prisoners ''just to save their reputation''. While Sengoku may have done questionable things over the years, he has acted for the good of the world. However, the World Government's decision to cover up the entire incident all together was so bad that he retired on the spot. Two years later, though largely retired retired, he still maintains a position within the Marines with less responsibility and is ''far'' more relaxed and cheerful.
** Several other Marines are shown to struggle with this trope. Garp actively avoided it, refusing any and all attempts to promote him to Admiral and stepped down to a lower rank in the same manner as Sengoku over the coverup. Kuzan had no interest in Sengoku's job and only job, but stepped up when learning [[BloodKnight Akainu]] was also nominated, having even tried for it to prevent fought a ten-day duel with him over the zealous Sakazuki from taking it. And after position. After the timeskip timeskip, it's already wearing on Sakazuki, with his bosses the Five Elder Stars pushing him to make decisions even his ruthless sense of justice doesn't agree with for the sake of the government saving face at the cost of the Marines' honor.
12th Jul '16 5:26:47 AM Morgenthaler
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See also BeingGodIsHard for the chains of being in charge of all Creation.
28th May '16 7:59:20 PM Kereea1
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** Several other Marines are shown to struggle with this trope. Garp actively avoided it, refusing any and all attempts to promote him to Admiral and stepped down to a lower rank in the same manner as Sengoku over the coverup. Kuzan had no interest in Sengoku's job and only even tried for it to prevent the zealous Sakazuki from taking it. And after the timeskip it's already wearing on Sakazuki, with his bosses the Five Elder Stars pushing him to make decisions even his ruthless sense of justice doesn't agree with for the sake of the government saving face at the cost of the Marines' honor.
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