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19th Jul '16 2:23:52 PM kaixokkiten
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Often, bullies in movies will do things like steal lunch money even though that is rare in RealLife, outright mugging a kid is a step too far for most places. This is because "stealing lunch money" (and other similar crimes), from a writing standpoint, is perfect.

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Often, bullies in movies will do things like steal lunch money even though that is rare in RealLife, outright RealLife -outright mugging a kid is a step too far for most places. This is because "stealing lunch money" (and other similar crimes), from a writing standpoint, is perfect.
17th Jul '16 7:44:50 PM GranChi
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It should be noted that a lot of social stereotypes that are not necessarily true in RealLife are commonly associated with fictional bullies: the bully, as a stock evildoer, is typically a DirtyCoward in the face of real danger, always dumb, and comes from an [[FreudianExcuse unhappy and problem ridden family background]]. (Real life will tell you that, in many cases, the opposite of these is true.) Also, in real life, [[SchoolBullyingIsHarmless school bullying is not a]] RiteOfPassage. Lastly, while many movies and television shows portray bullies [[BarbaricBully as being enormous in size and physical strength]] (probably so that we feel more sympathy for their victims), bullies in real life come in all shapes and sizes. So the giant football player who sits to your left in homeroom probably isn't much more likely to be a bully than the scrawny nerd that sits to your right.

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It should be noted that a lot of social stereotypes that are not necessarily true in RealLife are commonly associated with fictional bullies: the bully, as a stock evildoer, is typically a DirtyCoward in the face of real danger, always dumb, and comes from an [[FreudianExcuse unhappy and problem ridden family background]]. (Real life will tell you that, in many cases, the opposite of these is true.) Also, in real life, [[SchoolBullyingIsHarmless school bullying is not a]] RiteOfPassage. Lastly, while many movies and television shows portray bullies [[BarbaricBully as being enormous in size and physical strength]] (probably so that we feel more sympathy for their victims), bullies in real life come in all shapes and sizes. So the giant football player who sits to your left in homeroom probably isn't much more likely to be a bully than the scrawny nerd kid that sits to your right.
17th Jul '16 12:57:22 AM kaixokkiten
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Often, bullies in movies will do things like steal lunch money even though that is rare in RealLife, outright mugging a kid is a step too far for most places. This is because "stealing lunch money" (and other similar crimes), from a writing standpoint, is perfect.

A: It's fast. A two and a half seconds of screentime for a kid to say "Gimme your lunch money or else" and bang, we instantly know a ton about this character. He's mean, rough, not afraid to be violent to get what he wants, and has questionable morals. Plus, there's the two simple words: "lunch money". It's money for lunch. Even if it's not how their school works, pretty much all kids understand that you can exchange money for food, and without it this kid doesn't eat today.

B: From a filming standpoint, it's extremely practical. Let's say your bully steals a Nerd's lunch instead. A tray is actually kind of an awkward instrument. What if during the shot, the bullied kid drops the tray on accident? Or if when he's stealing the tray, the bully drops it on accident? If we used real food, there's a risk of ruining the prop, and either way between each shot the crew would have to clean up and rearrange. Say the actors need to do twenty takes of this shot: the kid might get tired from holding the tray, or he'll start slouching instead of standing upright... lots of things could go wrong. Money on the other hand? Perfect. No one's going to get tired from holding a couple of bills, the handoff is simple, you drop em who cares, pick it up and let's run it again.

C: It's non-violent, while still being thuggish. Mostly ties back into the first point, but it shows the bully is a thug-type, while not necessitating any actual violence, which some Networks would probably prefer to not display.
It's an elegant solution to building a character for children's entertainment.

30th Jun '16 6:23:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* RedheadedBully
30th May '16 7:34:50 PM M84
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** Gregor Clegane was a vicious bully even as a child, burning and nearly killing his younger brother Sandor for playing with a toy Gregor had already discarded. He got even worse as he grew up, becoming one of the aforementioned "thugs with a sword and a massive sense of entitlement". It really doesn't help that he's always angry due to chronic migraines and is always looking for someone to lash out against. He's also the WorldsStrongestMan and leads a posse of other vicious bullies. Like a lot of bullies, his favorite targets are people who can't possibly put up a real fight against him, such as unarmed women and children -- pillaging the smallfolk is a ''hobby'' of his. Fighting against people who can actually challenge and ''hurt'' him on the other hand makes him upset and causes him to lose what little self control he still has, much like a SpoiledBrat whining when things don't go his way.

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** Gregor Clegane was a vicious bully even as a child, burning and nearly killing his younger brother Sandor for playing with a toy Gregor had already discarded. He got even worse as he grew up, becoming one of the aforementioned "thugs with a sword and a massive sense of entitlement". It really doesn't help that he's always angry due to chronic migraines and is always looking for someone to lash out against. He's also the WorldsStrongestMan and leads a posse of other vicious bullies. Like a lot of bullies, his favorite targets are people who can't possibly put up a real fight against him, such as unarmed women and children -- pillaging the smallfolk is a ''hobby'' of his. Fighting against people who can actually challenge and ''hurt'' him on the other hand makes him upset and [[VillainousBreakdown causes him to lose what little self control he still has, has]], much like a SpoiledBrat whining when things don't go his way.
30th May '16 7:34:19 PM M84
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* Many, many knights in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' are basically thugs with a sword and a massive sense of entitlement. One of the major examples is Ser Meryn Trant, who is perfectly happy to beat the crap out of a helpless teenage girl and laughs in Barristan Selmy's face when Joffrey kicks him out of the Kingsguard.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''
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Many, many knights in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' are basically thugs with a sword and a massive sense of entitlement. One of the major examples is Ser Meryn Trant, who is perfectly happy to beat the crap out of a helpless teenage girl and laughs in Barristan Selmy's face when Joffrey kicks him out of the Kingsguard.


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** Gregor Clegane was a vicious bully even as a child, burning and nearly killing his younger brother Sandor for playing with a toy Gregor had already discarded. He got even worse as he grew up, becoming one of the aforementioned "thugs with a sword and a massive sense of entitlement". It really doesn't help that he's always angry due to chronic migraines and is always looking for someone to lash out against. He's also the WorldsStrongestMan and leads a posse of other vicious bullies. Like a lot of bullies, his favorite targets are people who can't possibly put up a real fight against him, such as unarmed women and children -- pillaging the smallfolk is a ''hobby'' of his. Fighting against people who can actually challenge and ''hurt'' him on the other hand makes him upset and causes him to lose what little self control he still has, much like a SpoiledBrat whining when things don't go his way.
23rd May '16 12:09:17 PM HeroGal2347
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* In ''Literature/TheNightGardener'', Alastair Windsor spends most of the book picking on his little sister. Near the end, he throws Kip's crutch the only thing he has from his now-dead father into the river. Luckily, he changes for the better not long after.
20th May '16 7:59:38 AM Dravencour
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Because AdultsAreUseless, frequently students have to take matters into their own hands to deal with these characters, leading to a BullyHunter. Alternatively, the bully may not get his comeuppance from his victims or their protectors, instead falling foul to a bigger {{Villain}} and having to be [[SaveTheVillain rescued by the very people he used to torment.]] Can lead to [[ReformedBully a reformed bully]], [[EmbarrassingRescue if the bully is willing to admit to it.]] Otherwise the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo returns to normal]] despite [[UngratefulBastard past events.]]

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Because AdultsAreUseless, frequently students have to take matters into their own hands to deal with these characters, leading to a BullyHunter. Alternatively, the bully may not get his comeuppance from his victims or their protectors, instead falling running foul to of a bigger {{Villain}} and having to be [[SaveTheVillain rescued by the very people he used to torment.]] Can lead to [[ReformedBully a reformed bully]], [[EmbarrassingRescue if the bully is willing to admit to it.]] Otherwise the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo returns to normal]] despite [[UngratefulBastard past events.]]
13th May '16 10:57:57 AM Pichu-kun
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* Ishida Shouya, protagonist of ''Manga/KoeNoKatachi'', bullied a young deaf girl in his class constantly, usually alongside his fellow classmates. When they are finally forced to deal with it, the whole class, including the ''teacher'' use him as a scapegoat and shift all blame onto him, from then on tormenting and ostracizing him. After five years, the situation and the extremely guilty conscience he still holds for his actions have left him near suicidal.

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* Ishida Shouya, protagonist of ''Manga/KoeNoKatachi'', bullied a young deaf girl in his class constantly, usually alongside his fellow classmates. When they are finally forced to deal with it, the whole class, including the ''teacher'' use him as a scapegoat and shift all blame onto him, from then on tormenting and ostracizing him. After five years, the situation and the extremely guilty conscience he still holds for his actions have left him near suicidal. He decides to befriend Shouko before killing himself, though after befriending her he decides not to commit suicide.



** Mido from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' bullies Link because [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer he doesn't have a fairy]] and because he's best friends with the girl he likes, Saria.

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** Mido from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' bullies Link because [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer he doesn't have a fairy]] and because he's best friends with the girl he likes, Saria.



* {{Pete}} from ''Franchise/MickeyMouse'' and other Disney cartoons. The extent of his bullying tendencies varies.

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* {{Pete}} WesternAnimation/{{Pete}} from ''Franchise/MickeyMouse'' ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse'' and other Disney cartoons. The extent of his bullying tendencies varies.
13th May '16 10:54:04 AM Pichu-kun
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* Doi from ''Manga/WanderingSon'', and Oka to a more mild extent.

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* Doi from ''Manga/WanderingSon'', and Oka to a more mild extent. They both bully Nitori for being feminine.



* As a preadolescent Greenie from ''Animation/LeafieAHenIntoTheWild'' was bulled by other ducklings for being adopted by a hen.



* "Bully" by Music/{{Shinedown}} is a song about calling out a bully.



* Mido from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' and Groose from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword''.

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'':
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Mido from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' bullies Link because [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer he doesn't have a fairy]] and because he's best friends with the girl he likes, Saria.
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Groose from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword''.



* [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} Cardin Winchester]]'s defining trait, particularly towards [[{{Blackmail}} Jaune Arc]] and [[FantasticRacism Velvet]]. Also, his teammates on Team CRDL, to a lesser extent.

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* [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': Cardin Winchester]]'s Winchester's defining trait, particularly towards [[{{Blackmail}} Jaune Arc]] and [[FantasticRacism Velvet]]. Also, his teammates on Team CRDL, to a lesser extent.



** In "Butterballs" Butters is secretly bullied and beat up by his own grandma. She even follows him to school and bullies him in the bathroom. It's a running gag in the episode where people go to the bathroom to find a bully there waiting there for them.
*** Even more so when Butters attempts to find inner strength by donning the costume of Professor Chaos, only to have Grandma show up in a costume of her own, complete with black cape.
* Nelson, Jimbo, Kearny and Dolph of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.

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** In "Butterballs" Butters is secretly bullied and beat up by his own grandma. She even follows him to school and bullies him in the bathroom. It's a running gag in the episode where people go to the bathroom to find a bully there waiting there for them.
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them. Even more so when Butters attempts to find inner strength by donning the costume of Professor Chaos, only to have Grandma show up in a costume of her own, complete with black cape.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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Nelson, Jimbo, Kearny Kearny, and Dolph of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.Dolph.



* Buford of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''. However, he's actually a PunchClockVillain who spends far more time hanging out with the main characters than bullying them, falling somewhere between a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and a low-grade TokenEvilTeammate.
** In some ways he could be considered a major subversion of the trope. His first appearance plays out much like a traditional "bully episode" ending with them coming to an understanding. Unlike most examples, where said bully is never mentioned again, he immediately became part of the core cast.
* Roger of ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'', though he's is a very mild example. Sure, he isn't the most pleasant person, but he's more like the neighborhood jerk than an actual bully. He holds no ill feelings toward Doug, and is even commonly included in group activities as a friend.

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* Buford of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''. However, he's actually a PunchClockVillain who spends far more time hanging out with the main characters than bullying them, falling somewhere between a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and a low-grade TokenEvilTeammate.
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TokenEvilTeammate. In some ways he could be considered a major subversion of the trope. His first appearance plays out much like a traditional "bully episode" ending with them coming to an understanding. Unlike most examples, where said bully is never mentioned again, he immediately became part of the core cast.
* Roger of ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'':
** Roger,
though he's is a very mild example. Sure, he isn't the most pleasant person, but he's more like the neighborhood jerk than an actual bully. He holds no ill feelings toward Doug, and is even commonly included in group activities as a friend.



* Gelman from ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}''. Also a {{Jerkass}}.

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* Gelman from ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}''. Also ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'':
** Gelman, who is also
a {{Jerkass}}.



* Wolfgang from ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold!''.

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* Wolfgang from ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold!''.''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold!'':
** Wolfgang.



* {{Pete}} from ''MickeyMouse'' and other Disney cartoons. The extent of his bullying tendencies varies.

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* {{Pete}} from ''MickeyMouse'' ''Franchise/MickeyMouse'' and other Disney cartoons. The extent of his bullying tendencies varies.



** Sarah.

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** Sarah.Sarah is this towards her older brother and Eddy. She's constantly yelling at them.



* Multiple examples from ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. Bobby has dealt with three in the form of Dooley, Clark Peters, and Chane Wassanasong. Dooley is able to make everything he says an insult with his monotone voice and emphasis on the last word, and at one point harassed substitute teacher Peggy so badly (to the point of pantsing her in class) she actually spanked him. Dooley's parents had no ill will towards Peggy and a good idea that Dooley probably did something to deserve it. After that Dooley and Clark are similar to Roger Klotz in that they're just a couple of local jerks. Chane, on the other hand, is an egotistical jock and honors student who refers to himself as "The Chane Train" and is something of an AbhorrentAdmirer to Connie, much to her revulsion and her parents' delight. At first quite willing to inflict physical abuse on Bobby, Chane has stuck to verbal abuse ever since Bobby kicked him in the groin.

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* Multiple examples from ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'':
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Bobby has dealt with three in the form of Dooley, Clark Peters, and Chane Wassanasong. Dooley is able to make everything he says an insult with his monotone voice and emphasis on the last word, and at one point harassed substitute teacher Peggy so badly (to the point of pantsing her in class) she actually spanked him. Dooley's parents had no ill will towards Peggy and a good idea that Dooley probably did something to deserve it. After that Dooley and Clark are similar to Roger Klotz in that they're just a couple of local jerks. Chane, on the other hand, is an egotistical jock and honors student who refers to himself as "The Chane Train" and is something of an AbhorrentAdmirer to Connie, much to her revulsion and her parents' delight. At first quite willing to inflict physical abuse on Bobby, Chane has stuck to verbal abuse ever since Bobby kicked him in the groin.
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