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** Also, tens of millions of New York residents live off yeast that's nourished on ''wood pulp'', which comes from New Jersey forests that have been harvested for more than a thousand years without pause.
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And Timmy says, "[[WhatAreRecords CD-ROM]]s?"

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And Timmy says, "[[WhatAreRecords CD-ROM]]s?"
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!!Miscellaneous/Thrift Store Tech
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* Recently, many thrift and second-hand stores have stopped accepting Cathode Ray Tube televisions and in some cases, video cassette recorders because of their outdated technology and lack of interest by the public. Most of the old CRT [=TVs=] and [=VCRs=] sit on the shelves for months, unsold, before the stores wind up taking the items to an electronics recycling center (often at a financial loss to the thrift store), and signs at the stores often direct people wishing to make such donations to go to the nearest electronics recycling center. (Although most stores do still accept [=VHS=] videotapes, much like it's relatively easy to find eight-track tapes at thrift stores.)
** For people that work in facilities that deal with confidential information there is actually a battle to get CD players. Since facilities trying to protect confidential information may not allow phones or MP3 players, for fear of someone saving information on them and walking out the door with it, but generally will allow older cd and tape players. The problem is some areas no longer stock CD players, so if you want to be able to listen to music at your office you're going to have to find an old player that still works. If your office is large you may be fighting hundreds of other people who are also stalking the local thrift stores for this outdated technology. Still, it's a pretty niche need.
** In countries where analogue transmission has been turned off in favour of digital (a large chunk of Asia, Europe and Australasia), CRT televisions are outright worthless without a set-top box, which has added to second-hand and thrift stores turning them away.
** This trope is invoked in ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''. Mike and Jay run a VCR repair store, and their main source of income is from Harry Plinkett, who they defraud and lie to in order to have him constantly return his VCR for repairs.
** A passage in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' (written in TheForties and TheFifties and set in something like an {{alternate|Universe}} {{crapsack|World}} DieselPunk universe) mentions a "super-color-four-foot-screen television set" being "erected" in a public park like it was some sort of monument.
* There have been a few shows set in the far future which feature static-y [=TVs=] for added colour (''Anime/CowboyBebop,'' for example). However, since digital television is replacing all forms of analog TV, the only way you could have old-style static or bad reception on future [=TVs=] is if you intentionally put it in. Bad reception does happen on digital TV, but differently; instead of static, you get horizontal strips of garbled blocks like a badly scratched, worn out DVD.
** Unless the video was a recording that had at some point in the past suffered decay in analog transmission or storage -- converting a static-y analog recording to digital is going to perfectly preserve the static. That's no excuse for live transmissions, though.
* Somewhat related to the analogue transmission idea is the ubiquity of curved CRT screens in the future. A notable example is ''Film/TwoThousandTenTheYearWeMakeContact'', which used small [=CRT=]s everywhere on the sets for the Discovery. (This is especially ironic as Creator/StanleyKubrick used rear-projection to accomplish the illusion of flatscreen monitors for the same ship in ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''.)
** Similarly, the producers of ''Series/BabylonFive'' tried to hide their use of CRT monitors by embedding the screens in bulky, futuristic looking equipment with lots of lights and buttons. Unfortunately you can still see that the screens are curved, like the screens of CRT monitors in the early-mid 1990s.
** ''Series/EarthFinalConflict'', produced in the late 20th century and set in the late 2010s/early 2020s, also used bulky CRT monitors in government buildings, corporate offices, and the Taelon Embassy, despite flat screens becoming cheaper and more ubiquitous late in the show's run.
** 2010 has other examples of thrift-store tech. (i) HAL's "memory module" room was reconstructed for 2010, but alongside the original futuristic-looking memory modules, a previously unseen keyboard is used to interact with HAL (due to his damaged speech circuits). Not a dead tech, but unfortunately it looks like a typical early '80s keyboard, contrasting badly with- and looking more dated than!- the original film's inventive design. (ii) Floyd's secret failsafe cutoff for HAL is to be activated by him typing nine 9s on a hacked calculator. Again, not a dead tech, but one which would be a far less obvious "first choice" gadget for that use today than it would have been in the mid-80s when calculators were still (somewhat) new and high-tech.
* In Kevin O'Donnell's novel ''ORA:CLE'', published in 1985, personal names are replaced by alphanumeric strings encoding personal attributes (including allotted public time and computer-related knowledge [!]); for example, the main character's name is [=ALL80 AFAHSC NFF6=] (Ale Elatey for short). However, it's set in a universe where ''all computers run unprotected operating systems like DOS'' and ''all news are shown in Bulletin Board Systems''. In '''2188'''.
* On the subject of CyberPunk, many of the genre's works (print and video) featured extensive virtual realities that today are being realized with applications such as ''Second Life''. While we can see the usefulness of VR for entertainment, education or training purposes, is it really more efficient to walk through a fully rendered VR representation of an automated factory to control and maintain operations, or would a screen of text and numbers and a keyboard be sufficient?
** The US Navy is actually incredibly enthusiastic about using VR and Second Life in particular to train servicemen and -women on things such as submarine operation. However some of their other applications reek of "we must retroactively justify this expense."
* When you pull up next to someone in traffic and motion to them to roll down their window, what do you do? That's right. You motion like you're rotating a lever, despite the fact that a vast majority of cars on the road these days have ''buttons'' to roll down windows... not levers. Still, everyone knows what you mean, presumably because levers are recent enough that everyone driving today can remember the days when they were common and also lever controlled windows are still included on vehicles (mostly base-model trucks and very cheap subcompacts) without power windows installed.
** Credit to comedian SteveHofstetter for trying to bring everyone forwards...
--> "I don't roll down my window. Because my car wasn't made in 1997. I vsshh down my window."
* Similarly, the accepted icons for saving (a floppy disc) and a movie (a roll of film) are both representations of entirely obsolete technology - but likely to last longer than the memory of the media themselves!
** Theater movies are still largely released on film, digital distribution (and even projection) still being rather new and expensive technology. Downloading a feature film at a high enough resolution that it doesn't appear blurry when projected onto a large screen is a large file download ''even by early 2010s standards.''
*** The editing is cheaper than it might appear. Editing on film requires large quantities of film, lots of chemistry, and lots of time. In contrast, you can do a year's worth of film editing in two weeks on digital editing equipment, meaning you can quite feasibly rent the editing rig instead of buying it, and the film processing lab, and hiring all the support staff needed for it, and come out ahead, even if you don't already have a more-or-less finished idea of how the film needs to come together (which is almost a necessity in editing on film). Home [=PCs=] are to the point now where there's really only two things inhibiting private production of Hollywood-quality feature films: It's hard to get hold of the specialized video cards needed for the special image format used in high-end digital movie editing, and the cameras available on the home market usually have tricky restrictions built into the licensing agreements for the video and audio [=CODEC=]s they use.
* People still use the term "dial a number" when telephones haven't used dials for decades.
* Many pictograms of telephones are also hopelessly out of date, ranging from the depiction of just the phone receiver, which looks a bit too clunky for today's standards, over the "classical" key phone with the receiver sitting on top like a torero hat, to the same design, but with a dial plate. Likewise, pictograms that tell you to switch off your cell phone can hardly keep pace with the rapidly evolving appearance of said cell phones.
* We also turn our finger in a twisting motion when we're asking someone to turn volume up or down, despite the fact that most devices now have buttons with up and down arrows on them. Granted, some speakers have dials, and so do many MP3 players, but those are outnumbered by the buttoned devices.
* The use of double-spacing at the end of sentences. This is a hold-over from the days of typewriters with their monospacing (where every character occupies the same amount of space), to help the period stand out. Such a necessity has long been rendered obsolete by digital word-processors and just plain looks silly when used nowadays, but a lot of older typists (or younger ones taught by them), still use two spaces after periods. Even on this very wiki, though [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} That Other Wiki]] and other [=MediaWiki=]-based wikis generally format pages so only one space is displayed even if more than one is typed into the code for the page.
** It's still a handy method for students to pad papers that are to be a certain number of pages long. Two spaces at the end of every sentence adds up.
** And this practice continues to serve its original purpose if something is to be printed in Courier or another typewriter-like font.
** Ever proving the ancient maxim, "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way," The U.S. Department of Defense (which shows up on this page in several places) still uses the "two space" rule in official correspondence, even though the proportional Times New Roman is the mandatory font, and still has instructions like "indent three spaces," which don't make much sense when using proportional fonts.
* Calling solid-state storage media a "tape":
** In ''Film/CloakAndDagger'' everyone calls the game cartridge with the hidden data a "tape".
** The ''Literature/{{Starfire}}'' books by David Weber and Steve White often has warship personnel say "on the tape" to mean they've recorded a message for transmission. The series is set several hundred years in the future but was written in the mid-2000s.
** The "UsefulNotes/{{Sega|Genesis}} tapes" of ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''. Like a lot of elements in the series, this is deliberate parody of this trope.
** The exposed tape sticking out of the [[http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/91_topps/4a_front_supid_moron_bros_small.html package of "Stupid Moron Bros. 2"]] from Topps' ''WackyPackages''.
* Who else here has ever talked about "taping" a show on to a hard disc, or "rewinding" a DVD?
** The "DVD rewinder" even exists as a joke appliance.[[labelnote:*]]It's simply a base with a powered spindle and a button turning the motor on and off.[[/labelnote]]
** "Rewind" is pretty much the only term for going backwards on a recording, as going backwards on a digital recording does not require any obvious motions.
* Even though ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' switched to an electronic puzzleboard in 1997, people still refer to the letters being "turned" as if they were still physical trilons.
* Creator/BillCosby has an old and hilarious routine about how he wants Polaroid to develop a way to produce a baby quickly. "Kiss your wife, wait five minutes and BOOM - there's the kid! Of course you have to dip him in the lacquer or he'll fade..."
** A [[http://carnal.orfinlir.de/ third party]] TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons book (not quite SFW) refers to that with the spell "Irnar's Polaroidic Pregnancy" (shortens the pregnancy to 9 hours). The guide isn't quite complete, and the name is yet to be changed.
* The trope page for PoorMansPorn has a whole section (Type C) dedicated to people trying to watch scrambled porn on TV. This is now outdated (except in 80s-90s period pieces), as newer television sets recognized the scrambled signal and replaced it with a blue screen, and nowadays you simply get a screen saying you do not get that particular adult video channel.
** For that matter, the very concept of PoorMansPorn is mostly obsolete. Actual porn is freely available, in huge quantities, over the Internet. Admittedly, you're probably not going to be viewing porn at the local library, so you do need your own computer and Internet service. Still, the most common users of PoorMansPorn weren't the poor, but children who weren't allowed to view anything else. Nowadays, like it or not, any kid who has hit puberty has probably looked up some illicit porn at some point.
* "Hi-fi" used to mean a stereo system, and is a bit outdated in these days of MP3 players. (As a term for ''high-fidelity sound'' it is still used by people in the sound industry). This is a bit troublesome tech-wise for people having FunWithPalindromes because "If I had a hi-fi" is still a popular palindrome in books, etc.
* In the ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'' universe cyborgs and typewriters exist side by side.
* When a factual show requires background music to suddenly end for humorous purposes, nine times out of ten they'll STILL put on [[RecordNeedleScratch the sound effect of a needle skating across a vinyl record.]] This even applies to kids' shows, where it is otherwise assumed that the audience won't have a clue what vinyl records are and need it explained every time they're mentioned.
* People are often told to cut the doors off refrigerators before throwing them away, to keep playful children from being locked inside and suffocating. However, this only applies to older fridges with latch handles that are impossible to open from the inside. Fridges built since the 80s, however, use magnetic strips to hold the door shut, which can be easily opened from either side.
* In April 2016, the National Weather Service [[http://www.noaa.gov/national-weather-service-will-stop-using-all-caps-its-forecasts announced that they would stop "shouting" at viewers]]. For decades, they transmitted their weather reports using teletype, essentially a typewriter connected to a phone line, which only allowed for all-caps, MEANING THEIR FORECASTS WOULD ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THIS. It worked fine for most of the 20th century, but once the internet took off in the 90's and teletype became obsolete, using all caps implied yelling, especially in forecasts posted to social media. They ''wanted'' to start using mixed cases back then, but unsurprisingly for a government agency, it took them an extra twenty years to completely phase out the old equipment that only accepted teletype.
** This is why the Weather Channel, back when they actually showed weather forecasts, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXyGA8o_Xw looked like this]].
* In ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' Jotaro Kujo [[TimeTravel time travels]] from 1989 to 2011 to team up with his KidFromTheFuture, who's dealing with a villain that can steal people's memories with special CD-ROM's. Jotaro...understandably doesn't know what a CD-ROM ''even is'' (even though the CD had already been out for seven years from Jotaro's perspective).
-->'''Jotaro:''' "Wait, did you say disc? Is it like a cassette?"
-->'''Jolyne:''' "''Generation gaaap!''"
* The ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise has a few characters who in [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 the original incarnation of the brand]] turned into at-the-time current technology, most famously Soundwave and his minions (who respectively turn into a (micro)cassette player and cassette tapes). Owing to the fact that no-one uses cassettes anymore, most new toys of the characters either refer to their alt-modes by different names or give them entirely new (or slightly different[[labelnote:*]]such as ''Titans Return''[='=]s "Spy Tablets"[[/labelnote]]) alt-modes entirely.
** Soundwave, being such a distinct character, thanks to both his cassette minions and his distinct voice, is generally an exercise in creativity as to how to render him for a new day and age. The consistent themes that he needs to hit are audio communications and CreepyMonotone. Such themes were covered by Predator Drones, Stealth Planes, Communication's Satellites, bats, and the Nissan Cube (one of the first cars designed with MP3 music devices in mind).

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\n!!Miscellaneous/Thrift Store Tech\n[[quoteright:300:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ms_applesoft_tape_401.jpg]]\n\n[[folder:Misc.]]\n* Recently, many thrift and second-hand stores have stopped accepting Cathode Ray Tube televisions and in some cases, video cassette recorders because of their outdated technology and lack of interest by the public. Most ----

!!Agriculture
A lot
of the old CRT [=TVs=] and [=VCRs=] sit on the shelves for months, unsold, before the stores wind up taking the items to an electronics recycling center (often at science fiction features a financial loss to the thrift store), and signs at the stores often direct people wishing to make such donations to go to the nearest electronics recycling center. (Although most stores do still accept [=VHS=] videotapes, much like it's relatively easy to find eight-track tapes at thrift stores.)
** For people that work in facilities that deal
world with confidential information food shortage and rationing due to extreme overpopulation. [[FutureFoodIsArtificial 90% of the food is yeast or synthetic]]. Except that... the figures stated have been surpassed or near so, and there is actually a battle significant overproduction. This is largely thanks to get CD players. Since facilities trying the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution Green Revolution]] which, in addition to protect confidential information may mechanization of planting and harvest, also included breeding a lot of high-yield and drought- or pest-resistant crops. (Not all "technology" is machine-based.)

It should be noted that some of the agricultural technologies depend on petroleum and other materials which can soon run out... assuming we will
not allow phones have enough energy to synthesize more, or MP3 players, for fear of someone saving information on them and walking out the door develop alternatives. A society with it, but generally will allow older cd no energy shortages depicted that way...

[[folder:Literature]]
* Literature/TheCavesOfSteel. Everyone lives in {{megacit|y}}ies, almost all the food is yeast, efficiency is necessary to the point of a personal cubicle in the communal bathroom being a luxury,
and tape players. The there is strict PopulationControl. Population? Eight billion.
* Literature/{{Foundation}}. Trantor needs twenty agricultural worlds to feed its forty billion people. Today, over half the population of Earth is urban, meaning the agriculture of a single planet should have little problem feeding four billion people who produce no food. If you take into account that later sources claim Trantor has significant artificial food production on its own...
** A related
problem is some areas no longer stock CD players, so that Trantor is stated to be a single, planet-covering city hundreds or thousands of levels deep, and there are special observation towers that you have to use if you want to be able see the sky. There's absolutely no way that you need that kind of urban structure to listen to music at your office you're house a mere 40 billion people when we have 7 billion on Earth with cities covering only a few per cent of the land surface and most of that you can't travel around in much without going to outside. (Yes, there are places where you can travel around significant sections of cities entirely indoors, but you have to find an old player that still works. If your office is large you may be fighting hundreds of other people who are also stalking the local thrift stores for this outdated technology. Still, it's a pretty niche need.
** In countries where analogue transmission has been turned off in favour of digital (a large chunk of Asia, Europe and Australasia), CRT televisions are outright worthless without a set-top box, which has added to second-hand and thrift stores turning them away.
** This trope is invoked in ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''. Mike and Jay run a VCR repair store, and their main source of income is from Harry Plinkett, who they defraud and lie to in order to have him constantly return his VCR for repairs.
** A passage in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' (written in TheForties and TheFifties and set in something like an {{alternate|Universe}} {{crapsack|World}} DieselPunk universe) mentions a "super-color-four-foot-screen television set" being "erected" in a public park like
do it was some sort of monument.
* There have been a few shows set in the far future which feature static-y [=TVs=] for added colour (''Anime/CowboyBebop,'' for example). However, since digital television is replacing all forms of analog TV, the only way you could have old-style static or bad reception on future [=TVs=] is if you
intentionally put it in. Bad reception does happen on digital TV, but differently; instead of static, you get horizontal strips of garbled blocks like a badly scratched, worn out DVD.
** Unless the video was a recording that had at some point in the past suffered decay in analog transmission or storage -- converting a static-y analog recording to digital is going to perfectly preserve the static. That's no excuse for live transmissions, though.
* Somewhat related to the analogue transmission idea is the ubiquity of curved CRT screens in the future. A notable example is ''Film/TwoThousandTenTheYearWeMakeContact'', which used small [=CRT=]s everywhere on the sets for the Discovery. (This is especially ironic as Creator/StanleyKubrick used rear-projection to accomplish the illusion of flatscreen monitors for the same ship in ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''.)
** Similarly, the producers of ''Series/BabylonFive'' tried to hide their use of CRT monitors by embedding the screens in bulky, futuristic looking equipment with lots of lights
and buttons. Unfortunately you can still see that the screens are curved, like the screens of CRT monitors in the early-mid 1990s.
** ''Series/EarthFinalConflict'', produced in the late 20th century and set in the late 2010s/early 2020s, also used bulky CRT monitors in government buildings, corporate offices, and the Taelon Embassy, despite flat screens becoming cheaper and more ubiquitous late in the show's run.
** 2010 has other examples of thrift-store tech. (i) HAL's "memory module" room was reconstructed for 2010, but alongside the original futuristic-looking memory modules, a previously unseen keyboard is used to interact with HAL (due to his damaged speech circuits). Not a dead tech, but unfortunately it looks like a typical early '80s keyboard, contrasting badly with- and looking more dated than!- the original film's inventive design. (ii) Floyd's secret failsafe cutoff for HAL is to be activated by him typing nine 9s on a hacked calculator. Again, not a dead tech, but one which would be a far less obvious "first choice" gadget for that use today than it would have been in the mid-80s when calculators were still (somewhat) new and high-tech.
* In Kevin O'Donnell's novel ''ORA:CLE'', published in 1985, personal names are replaced by alphanumeric strings encoding personal attributes (including allotted public time and computer-related knowledge [!]); for example, the main character's name is [=ALL80 AFAHSC NFF6=] (Ale Elatey for short). However,
it's set both limiting and inconvenient in a universe most places where ''all computers run unprotected operating systems like DOS'' and ''all news are shown in Bulletin Board Systems''. In '''2188'''.
* On
it's possible at all.) Also, if the subject of CyberPunk, many of the genre's works (print and video) featured extensive virtual realities that today are being realized with applications such as ''Second Life''. While we can see the usefulness of VR for entertainment, education or training purposes, entire planet is it really more efficient to walk through a fully rendered VR representation of an automated factory to control and maintain operations, or would a screen of text and numbers and a keyboard be sufficient?
** The US Navy is actually incredibly enthusiastic about using VR and Second Life in particular to train servicemen and -women on things such as submarine operation. However some of their other applications reek of "we must retroactively justify this expense."
* When you pull up next to someone in traffic and motion to them to roll down their window,
underground, what do you do? That's right. You motion like you're rotating a lever, despite exactly is stopping the fact that a vast majority of cars Trantorians from putting the dirt back on the road these days have ''buttons'' to roll down windows... not levers. Still, everyone knows what you mean, presumably because levers are recent enough unused surface and growing their own food?
** Compounding the problem yet again is
that everyone driving today can remember the days when they Asimov was self-admittedly bad at scale and bad at remembering how many people were common and also lever controlled windows are still included supposed to live on vehicles (mostly base-model trucks and very cheap subcompacts) without power windows installed.
** Credit
Trantor, causing its population to comedian SteveHofstetter for trying vary from 40 billions to bring everyone forwards...
--> "I don't roll down my window. Because my car wasn't made in 1997. I vsshh down my window."
* Similarly, the accepted icons for saving (a floppy disc) and a movie (a roll of film) are both representations of entirely obsolete technology - but likely to last longer than the memory of the media themselves!
** Theater movies are still largely released on film, digital distribution (and even projection) still being rather new and expensive technology. Downloading a feature film at a high enough resolution that it doesn't appear blurry when projected onto a large screen is a large file download ''even by early 2010s standards.''
*** The editing is cheaper than it might appear. Editing on film requires large quantities of film, lots of chemistry, and lots of time. In contrast, you can do a year's worth of film editing in two weeks on digital editing equipment, meaning you can quite feasibly rent the editing rig instead of buying it, and the film processing lab, and hiring all the support staff needed for it, and come out ahead, even if you don't already have a more-or-less finished idea of how the film needs to come together (which is almost a necessity in editing on film). Home [=PCs=] are to the point now where there's really only two things inhibiting private production of Hollywood-quality feature films: It's hard to get hold of the specialized video cards needed for the special image format used in high-end digital movie editing, and the cameras available
4 trillions, depending on the home market usually have tricky restrictions built into the licensing agreements for the video and audio [=CODEC=]s they use.
book.
* People still use the term "dial Literature/LuckyStarr: Earth has a number" when telephones haven't used dials for decades.
* Many pictograms
population of telephones are also hopelessly out of date, ranging six billion. Enough to be dependent on food imports from the depiction of just the phone receiver, Mars and Venus.
* Literature/TheLatheOfHeaven. The year is 2002. A man can afford an egg maybe once a month, and it's been twenty years since any grain could be spared for making alcohol. Population, seven billion.
* ''[[Literature/MakeRoomMakeRoom Make Room! Make Room!]]'' (the book on
which looks a bit too clunky ''Film/SoylentGreen'' is loosely based): The year is 1999. As stated in the book:
-->Now the oil is gone, the topsoil depleted and washed away, the trees chopped down, the animals extinct, the earth poisoned, and all we have to show
for today's standards, this is seven billion people fighting over the "classical" key phone with the receiver sitting on top like a torero hat, to the same design, but with a dial plate. Likewise, pictograms that tell you to switch off your cell phone can hardly keep pace with the rapidly evolving appearance of said cell phones.
* We also turn our finger in a twisting motion when we're asking someone to turn volume up or down, despite the fact that most devices now have buttons with up and down arrows on them. Granted, some speakers have dials, and so do many MP3 players, but those are outnumbered by the buttoned devices.
* The use of double-spacing at the end of sentences. This is a hold-over from the days of typewriters with their monospacing (where every character occupies the same amount of space), to help the period stand out. Such a necessity has long been rendered obsolete by digital word-processors and just plain looks silly when used nowadays, but a lot of older typists (or younger ones taught by them), still use two spaces after periods. Even on this very wiki, though [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} That Other Wiki]] and other [=MediaWiki=]-based wikis generally format pages so only one space is displayed even if more than one is typed into the code for the page.
** It's still a handy method for students to pad papers
scraps that are to be left, living a certain number of pages long. Two spaces at the end of every sentence adds up.
** And this practice continues to serve its original purpose if something is to be printed in Courier or another typewriter-like font.
** Ever proving the ancient maxim, "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way," The U.S. Department of Defense (which shows up on this page in several places) still uses the "two space" rule in official correspondence, even though the proportional Times New Roman is the mandatory font, and still has instructions like "indent three spaces," which don't make much sense when using proportional fonts.
miserable existence...
* Calling solid-state storage media a "tape":
** In ''Film/CloakAndDagger'' everyone calls the game cartridge with the hidden data a "tape".
** The ''Literature/{{Starfire}}'' books by David Weber and Steve White often has warship personnel say "on the tape" to mean they've recorded a message for transmission. The series is set several hundred years in the future but was written in the mid-2000s.
** The "UsefulNotes/{{Sega|Genesis}} tapes" of ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''. Like a lot of elements in the series, this is deliberate parody of this trope.
** The exposed tape sticking out of the [[http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/91_topps/4a_front_supid_moron_bros_small.html package of "Stupid Moron Bros. 2"]] from Topps' ''WackyPackages''.
* Who else here has ever talked about "taping" a show on to a hard disc, or "rewinding" a DVD?
** The "DVD rewinder" even exists as a joke appliance.[[labelnote:*]]It's simply a base with a powered spindle and a button turning the motor on and off.[[/labelnote]]
** "Rewind" is pretty much the only term for going backwards on a recording, as going backwards on a digital recording does not require any obvious motions.
* Even though ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' switched to an electronic puzzleboard in 1997, people still refer to the letters being "turned" as if they were still physical trilons.
* Creator/BillCosby has an old and hilarious routine about how he wants Polaroid to develop a way to produce a baby quickly. "Kiss your wife, wait five minutes and BOOM - there's the kid! Of course you have to dip him in the lacquer or he'll fade..."
** A [[http://carnal.orfinlir.de/ third party]] TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons book (not quite SFW) refers to that with the spell "Irnar's Polaroidic Pregnancy" (shortens the pregnancy to 9 hours). The guide isn't quite complete, and the name is yet to be changed.
* The trope page for PoorMansPorn has a whole section (Type C) dedicated to people trying to watch scrambled porn on TV. This is now outdated (except in 80s-90s period pieces), as newer television sets recognized the scrambled signal and replaced it with a blue screen, and nowadays you simply get a screen saying you do not get that particular adult video channel.
** For that matter, the very concept of PoorMansPorn is mostly obsolete. Actual porn is freely available, in huge quantities, over the Internet. Admittedly, you're probably not going to be viewing porn at the local library, so you do need your own computer and Internet service. Still, the most common users of PoorMansPorn weren't the poor, but children who weren't allowed to view anything else. Nowadays, like it or not, any kid who has hit puberty has probably looked up some illicit porn at some point.
* "Hi-fi" used to mean a stereo system, and is a bit outdated in these days of MP3 players. (As a term for ''high-fidelity sound'' it is still used by people in the sound industry). This is a bit troublesome tech-wise for people having FunWithPalindromes because "If I had a hi-fi" is still a popular palindrome in books, etc.
* In the ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'' universe cyborgs and typewriters exist side by side.
''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Zigzagged.
* When a factual show requires background music to suddenly end for humorous purposes, nine times out of ten they'll STILL put on [[RecordNeedleScratch ** On the sound effect of a needle skating across a vinyl record.]] This even applies to kids' shows, where it one hand, hive cities easily reach populations in the billions, but the reason they exist is otherwise assumed that the audience won't have a clue what vinyl records are and need it explained every time they're mentioned.
* People are often told to cut
the doors off refrigerators before throwing only habitable ([[NoOSHACompliance sorta]]) places on the planet (usually a DeathWorld, in desert, an ocean, or so polluted and/or radioactive even bionic systems only last a few minutes variants), so a planet of ten billion people has them away, to keep playful children in three or four hives. These get pretty much all their food from being locked inside and suffocating. However, this only applies to older fridges off-planets, with latch handles that are impossible other worlds entirely devoted to open from the inside. Fridges built since the 80s, however, use magnetic strips to hold the door shut, which can be easily opened from either side.
* In April 2016, the National Weather Service [[http://www.noaa.gov/national-weather-service-will-stop-using-all-caps-its-forecasts announced that they
agricultural production (using both mind-bogglingly advanced machinery and manual labor techniques medieval peasants would stop "shouting" at viewers]]. For decades, they transmitted their weather reports using teletype, essentially have laughed at).
** On the other hand [[PlanetTerra Holy Terra]] is so densely populated that its soil is utterly barren and its atmosphere is
a typewriter connected to a phone line, which only allowed for all-caps, MEANING THEIR FORECASTS WOULD ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THIS. It worked fine for most fog of pollution. Massive, labyrinthine edifices of state sprawl across the vast majority of the 20th century, but once the internet took off in the 90's and teletype became obsolete, using surface. Its oceans have long ago boiled away. Many mountain ranges have been leveled, perhaps all caps implied yelling, especially in forecasts posted to social media. They ''wanted'' to start using mixed cases back then, but unsurprisingly for a government agency, it took of them an extra twenty years to completely phase out except the old equipment that only accepted teletype.
** This is why
Himalayas, which seemingly remain all but untouched due to the Weather Channel, back when they actually showed weather forecasts, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXyGA8o_Xw looked like this]].
* In ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' Jotaro Kujo [[TimeTravel time travels]] from 1989
laboratories said to 2011 to team up with his KidFromTheFuture, who's dealing with a villain that can steal people's memories with special CD-ROM's. Jotaro...understandably doesn't know what a CD-ROM ''even is'' (even though be underneath and the CD had already been out for seven years from Jotaro's perspective).
-->'''Jotaro:''' "Wait, did you say disc? Is it like a cassette?"
-->'''Jolyne:''' "''Generation gaaap!''"
* The ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise has a few characters who in [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 the original incarnation
chambers of the brand]] turned into at-the-time current technology, most famously Soundwave and his minions (who respectively turn into a (micro)cassette player and cassette tapes). Owing to the fact Astronomican that no-one uses cassettes course throughout the whole mountain range. No specifics are given on the population anymore, most new toys of just "billions", possibly at least a trillion depending on the characters either refer to their alt-modes by different names or give them entirely new (or slightly different[[labelnote:*]]such as ''Titans Return''[='=]s "Spy Tablets"[[/labelnote]]) alt-modes entirely.
** Soundwave, being such a distinct character, thanks to both his cassette minions and his distinct voice, is generally an exercise in creativity as to how to render him for a new day and age. The consistent themes that he needs to hit are audio communications and CreepyMonotone. Such themes were covered by Predator Drones, Stealth Planes, Communication's Satellites, bats, and the Nissan Cube (one of the first cars designed with MP3 music devices in mind).
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!!Automobiles
Drifting is cool, right? Keeping your head cool and your car in balance while on two wheels is the epitome of badass driving? It might have been ...until [[TheSeventies the 1970s]]. Most modern cars, not just performance cars, have tire sizes which a few decades ago were just for [[CoolCar Ferraris and Porsches]] and the ''quality'' of tires and suspension is ages beyond. Even a humble modern hot hatchback may pull stunts which in the past were barely imaginable outside racetracks. Well, if a car still works well even after a decade, it can become WhatAPieceOfJunk.



* A positive variant is depicted in ''Film/TheMagdaleneSisters'', which the notorious Magdalene Asylums, de facto Irish gulags for women who didn't conform to local religious mores (like [[DefiledForever being raped]]), earned their main income from doing laundry which had to be done by hand in earlier years. Later on, the first washing machines were installed and although the Nuns and their prisoners didn't know it then, the very ubiquity of these relatively inexpensive and obviously practical appliances in personal residences would destroy the economic viability of those prisons.
* In 1981's ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', a monitor displays a 3D wireframe model of [=NYC=] as Snake lands his glider in the city. The filmmakers wanted to use an actual computer model, but since technology wasn't there yet at the budget they had, they compromised by building a physical miniature New York, outlining it with reflective tape, and filming the result. This was the ''budget option''.
* Played straight in universe in a 2015 era antique store in ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartII'':
-->'''Antique store saleswoman:''' Now this has an interesting feature - it has a dust jacket. Books used to have these to protect the covers. Of course that was before they had dust repellent paper. And if you're interested in dust, we have a quaint little piece from the 1980s. It's called a Dustbuster."
** Funnily enough, the Dustbuster continues to enjoy popularity and has even taken on BrandNameTakeover.
** And paper books may be on their way out, dust-proof or otherwise.
** Later, as the 1955 Doc looks at Marty's camcorder, he says "Now this is truly amazing: a portable television studio. No wonder [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan your president is an actor]], he's got to look good on television!"
* Kids who grew up with [=DVDs=] and digitally downloaded movies probably won't get the locker-aliens' "Be Kind, Rewind" reference in ''Film/{{Men in Black II}}''. The "Adult section in rear" gag, teens can probably figure out, though it also [[TheInternetIsForPorn dates the picture]].
* In ''Film/TimeBandits'', the embodiment of evil explains that he knows better than the Supreme Being because he has knowledge of "Digital watches. Soon I shall have knowledge of video cassette recorders and car telephones. And when I understand those I shall understand computers. And when I understand computers '''I''' will be the Supreme Being." In 1981, those really were cutting edge and were meant to be. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Now they can be considered evidence that Evil is a little out of touch]].
* In ''Film/TradingPlaces'', Louis Winthorpe tries to sell his watch at a pawnshop, mentioning how it's waterproof up to 3 atmospheres as proof of how top-of-the-line it is. Today, many watches are waterproof to as many as ''50'' atmospheres.
* Lampshaded nicely in ''Film/TheWeddingSinger'': [[JerkJock Glenn]] brags about buying a CD player for around $1,000, and [[LoveInterests Julia]] promptly offers to get a record to play on it.
* ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' was made in 2002, probably at the last possible moment before it'd need a period setting to explain why anyone would need to take pictures somewhere for them to be developed.
* One of the ''Film/AlienNation'' TV movies had people using CRT monitors well after flatscreen monitors had become cheap and readily available in the real world. This was deliberate on the part of the filmmakers... while they were still using CRT monitors, they were using much more advanced interface devices and streaming video was slightly ahead of where it is even today, several years later. This was to highlight that technology had developed in entirely different ways due to the Newcomers.
* In ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff'', Ferris' line "I asked for a car, I got a computer. How's that for being born under a bad sign?" seems strange today. A typical teen in 1986 wouldn't know what to do with a computer, but every teen in modern times would like his or her own private computer for social messaging, file sharing and [[TheInternetIsForPorn pornography]].

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* A positive variant is depicted In ''Film/GoldenEye'', Film/JamesBond pulls a few stunts in ''Film/TheMagdaleneSisters'', which his old companion the notorious Magdalene Asylums, de facto Irish gulags for women who didn't conform Aston Martin [=DB5=] while street-racing FemmeFatale Xenya in a Ferrari [=F355=]. While impressive by 1965 standards, the chassis and suspension of the [=DB5=] would have never held up to local religious mores (like [[DefiledForever being raped]]), earned their main income from doing laundry which a modern [=GTI=], leave alone a [=F355=]. To film the chase, the [=F355=] had to be done by hand in earlier years. Later on, the first washing machines were installed and although the Nuns and their prisoners didn't know modified, otherwise it then, the very ubiquity of these relatively inexpensive and obviously practical appliances in personal residences would destroy the economic viability of those prisons.
* In 1981's ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', a monitor displays a 3D wireframe model of [=NYC=] as Snake lands his glider in the city. The filmmakers wanted to use an actual computer model, but since technology wasn't there yet at the budget they had, they compromised by building a physical miniature New York, outlining it with reflective tape, and filming the result. This was the ''budget option''.
* Played straight in universe in a 2015 era antique store in ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartII'':
-->'''Antique store saleswoman:''' Now this has an interesting feature - it has a dust jacket. Books used to have these to protect the covers. Of course that was before they had dust repellent paper. And if you're interested in dust, we have a quaint little piece from the 1980s. It's called a Dustbuster."
** Funnily enough, the Dustbuster continues to enjoy popularity and has even taken on BrandNameTakeover.
** And paper books may be on their way out, dust-proof or otherwise.
** Later, as the 1955 Doc looks at Marty's camcorder, he says "Now this is truly amazing: a portable television studio. No wonder [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan your president is an actor]], he's got to look good on television!"
* Kids who grew up with [=DVDs=] and digitally downloaded movies probably won't get the locker-aliens' "Be Kind, Rewind" reference in ''Film/{{Men in Black II}}''. The "Adult section in rear" gag, teens can probably figure out, though it also [[TheInternetIsForPorn dates the picture]].
* In ''Film/TimeBandits'', the embodiment of evil explains that he knows better than the Supreme Being because he has knowledge of "Digital watches. Soon I shall have knowledge of video cassette recorders and car telephones. And when I understand those I shall understand computers. And when I understand computers '''I''' will be the Supreme Being." In 1981, those really were cutting edge and were meant to be. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Now they can be considered evidence that Evil is a little out of touch]].
* In ''Film/TradingPlaces'', Louis Winthorpe tries to sell his watch at a pawnshop, mentioning how it's waterproof up to 3 atmospheres as proof of how top-of-the-line it is. Today, many watches are waterproof to as many as ''50'' atmospheres.
* Lampshaded nicely in ''Film/TheWeddingSinger'': [[JerkJock Glenn]] brags about buying a CD player for around $1,000, and [[LoveInterests Julia]] promptly offers to get a record to play on it.
* ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' was made in 2002, probably at the last possible moment before it'd need a period setting to explain why anyone would need to take pictures somewhere for them to be developed.
* One of the ''Film/AlienNation'' TV movies had people using CRT monitors well after flatscreen monitors had become cheap and readily available in the real world. This was deliberate on the part of the filmmakers... while they were still using CRT monitors, they were using much more advanced interface devices and streaming video was slightly ahead of where it is even today, several years later. This was to highlight that technology had developed in entirely different ways due to the Newcomers.
* In ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff'', Ferris' line "I asked for a car, I got a computer. How's that for being born under a bad sign?" seems strange today. A typical teen in 1986
wouldn't know what to do with drift. [[SarcasmMode Maybe this is the reason]] Q retires the Aston and gives Bond a computer, but every teen in modern [=BMW=] instead.
** Film/JamesBond's Aston Martin [=DB5=] was [[ImprobablyCoolCar an exceptional vehicle]]... for [[TheSixties the 1960s]]. 284hp may seem a lot (and 71bhp/L wouldn't be bad for a naturally aspirated engine today) until a turbocharged [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_%28third_generation%29 Ford Focus RS]] or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza_WRX#WRX_3 Subaru Impreza WRX]] zips past. [[BoringButPractical And it's 4
times would like his or her own private computer for social messaging, file sharing and [[TheInternetIsForPorn pornography]]. cheaper]]. The [=DB5=], however, is still undeniably about 470 times cooler. How many wankers do you see rolling past with an ill-fitted trumpet exhaust on an Aston Martin?



* Also appears in the ''Literature/DragonridersOfPern'' series. ''The Skies of Pern'', written in 2001, has cell phone-ish tech cropping into usage. ''All the Weyrs of Pern'' however, written in 1991, essentially has the Dragonriders saving the world by what amounts to handling ships' embedded electronics via console (TakeThat, graphical interface!) because the "real" computers were removed [[RagnarokProofing millenia]] ago. Funny part is that lots of things that are only one notch above PIC but run OS-s used to support telnet terminal access are [[http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/The-Linux-Devices-Showcase/ already here]].
* The original (circa 1980) edition of ''Literature/{{Superfudge}}'' by Creator/JudyBlume had Peter asking for and receiving a pocket calculator for Christmas. Later editions change the gift to a check from Grandma since, by about 2000, a regular calculator was a standard school supply and could be bought for about a dollar. He asks for a stereo in the original, but only in jest. Current editions have him ask instead for a laptop and mp3 player, and by 2010, it's hard to tell whether the latter was supposed to be an outrageous request.
* In the original print of ''Literature/AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'' by Creator/JudyBlume, Margaret is instructed in the proper use of a belt to secure her menstrual pad. The invention of menstrual pads with adhesive backing (something often taken for granted these days) had to wait until women's undergarments became snug enough for adhesive pads to be practical, which in turn required the invention of Spandex and cheaper methods of creating inexpensive fine-gauge cotton knits.
* When Literature/RepairmanJack first appeared in The Tomb, written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.
* The protagonists in Ken Grimwood's ''Literature/{{Replay}}'' are stuck in a 25-year GroundhogDayLoop from 1963 to 1988, so it isn't surprising this pops up. The author had [[ShownTheirWork shown his work]] though, by pointing out that some devices could be procured before they caught on with the public (though they were expensive) there were appearances of the [[http://www.wang1200.org/ Wang 1200]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%22_type_C_videotape Sony VTR]]. The following quote happens in 1974:
-->"Near the window was a large desk stacked with books and notebooks, and in the center of it sat a bulky, greenish-gray device that incorporated a video screen, a keyboard, and a printer. He frowned quizzically at it. What was she doing with a home computer so early? ... 'It's not a computer,' Pamela said. 'Wang 1200 word processor, one of the first. No disk drive, just cassettes, but still beats a typewriter. Want a beer?'"
* The famous quote from ''Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'' that humans are so primitive "they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." Funny in the late '70s, a bit baffling by the early 90s (they had marched on from being impractical high-tech gadgets to a commonplace item nobody would call "neat"), rather on-the-nose now.
** The radio adaptations in the mid-2000s had novelty ringtones instead. Not quite as dated yet.
** Creator/DouglasAdams defended the original line from a copyeditor who wanted to modernise it to cellphones. According to Douglas, digital watches are ''inherently'' ridiculous (in the middle of a period defined by finding visual ways to show information clearly, we took the graphic display we'd had since medieval times and replaced it with a string of numbers, just because we could) in a way that cellphones aren't. As long as humanity continues to believe there's a ''point'' to digital watches, he considered the "pretty neat idea" dig valid.
* In ''Literature/TheSpaceOdysseySeries,'' by the year 3,000 humanity has developed technology to match song lyrics to the EarWorm stuck in your head for you for a fee... uh... it's called a search engine and it's free.
* An instructor in ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was blinded in combat. Towards the end of his class, he feels the watchface to see how much time is left. Maybe he couldn't afford a talking watch. Soon it's likely to be asking why he didn't get prosthetic eyes.
* An inventor in {{The Dead Past}} by Creator/IsaacAsimov demonstrates his newest gadget, a time viewer. He turns on the monitor, then warns his impatient colleague to "let it warm up." When the story was written, televisions used vacuum tubes and frequently took 30 seconds to a minute to display a picture after being turned on.
* Creator/JulesVerne's ''Literature/ParisInTheTwentiethCentury'', written in 1862 and taking place in the distant future of 1960, makes some rather impressive predictions about the future. One of the reasons it wasn't published had to do with the publisher finding stuff like electro-mechanical calculators, widespread use of automobiles, fax machines, skyscrapers, automatic security systems and remote-controlled warfare too unrealistic. On the other hand, people still write using quills, records are still kept in books (that is, a colossal book apparently four meters tall, whose pages are turned with machinery) and there is apparently no air transport (except the odd airship or two, probably).
* The iconic intro to ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'', "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel", is somewhat spoiled by the fact that on many modern [=TVs=], the color you see when you turn your TV to a dead channel is ''bright blue''. (In 1984 when the book was written, it would have been an ugly gray static.)

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* Also appears in the ''Literature/DragonridersOfPern'' series. ''The Skies of Pern'', written in 2001, has cell phone-ish tech cropping into usage. ''All the Weyrs of Pern'' however, written in 1991, essentially has the Dragonriders saving the world by what amounts to handling ships' embedded electronics via console (TakeThat, graphical interface!) because the "real" computers were removed [[RagnarokProofing millenia]] ago. Funny part is that lots of things that are only one notch above PIC but run OS-s used to support telnet terminal access are [[http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/The-Linux-Devices-Showcase/ already here]].
* The original (circa 1980) edition of ''Literature/{{Superfudge}}'' by Creator/JudyBlume had Peter asking for and receiving a pocket calculator for Christmas. Later editions change the gift to a check from Grandma since, by about 2000, a regular calculator was a standard school supply and could be bought for about a dollar. He asks for a stereo in the original, but only in jest. Current editions have him ask instead for a laptop and mp3 player, and by 2010, it's hard to tell whether the latter was supposed to be an outrageous request.
* In the original print of ''Literature/AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'' by Creator/JudyBlume, Margaret is instructed in the proper use of a belt to secure her menstrual pad. The invention of menstrual pads with adhesive backing (something often taken for granted these days) had to wait until women's undergarments became snug enough for adhesive pads to be practical, which in turn required the invention of Spandex and cheaper methods of creating inexpensive fine-gauge cotton knits.
* When Literature/RepairmanJack first appeared in The Tomb, written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in
Obviously, quite a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.
* The protagonists in Ken Grimwood's ''Literature/{{Replay}}'' are stuck in a 25-year GroundhogDayLoop from 1963 to 1988, so it isn't surprising this pops up. The author had [[ShownTheirWork shown his work]] though, by pointing out that some devices could be procured
books were written before they caught on with the public (though they were expensive) there were appearances of the [[http://www.wang1200.org/ Wang 1200]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%22_type_C_videotape Sony VTR]]. The following quote happens in 1974:
-->"Near the window
automobile was invented. We could probably have a large desk stacked with books and notebooks, and in the center whole "Check Out Life Before Cars" section on how some classic works of it sat a bulky, greenish-gray device that incorporated a video screen, a keyboard, and a printer. He frowned quizzically at it. What was she doing with a home computer so early? ... 'It's not a computer,' Pamela said. 'Wang 1200 word processor, one of the first. No disk drive, just cassettes, but still beats a typewriter. Want a beer?'"
* The famous quote from ''Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'' that humans are so primitive "they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." Funny in the late '70s, a bit baffling by the early 90s (they
literature might have easily resolved themselves if cars had marched on from being impractical high-tech gadgets to a commonplace item nobody would call "neat"), rather on-the-nose now.
** The radio adaptations in the mid-2000s had novelty ringtones instead. Not quite as dated yet.
** Creator/DouglasAdams defended the original line from a copyeditor who wanted to modernise it to cellphones. According to Douglas, digital watches are ''inherently'' ridiculous (in the middle of
been available.
* While
a period defined by finding visual ways to show information clearly, we took piece, in ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' the graphic display we'd had since medieval times and replaced it Joads have to deal with a string of numbers, just because we could) broken transmission - they have to find an old one in a way that cellphones aren't. As long as humanity continues to believe there's a ''point'' to digital watches, he considered the "pretty neat idea" dig valid.
* In ''Literature/TheSpaceOdysseySeries,'' by the year 3,000 humanity has developed technology to match song lyrics to the EarWorm stuck in your head for you for a fee... uh... it's called a search engine
junkyard and it's free.
* An instructor in ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was blinded in combat. Towards the end of his class, he feels the watchface to see how much time is left. Maybe he couldn't afford a talking watch. Soon it's likely to be asking why he didn't get prosthetic eyes.
* An inventor in {{The Dead Past}} by Creator/IsaacAsimov demonstrates his newest gadget, a time viewer. He turns on the monitor,
then warns his impatient colleague to "let install it warm up." When themselves with only basic hand tools, something only the story was written, televisions used vacuum tubes most hardcore car guys would attempt on a do-it-yourself basis and frequently took 30 seconds to would require at least a minute to display a picture after being turned on.
* Creator/JulesVerne's ''Literature/ParisInTheTwentiethCentury'', written
hoist in 1862 any post-UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 vehicle.
* Invoked in Booth Tarkington's ''{{Penrod}}'' (set
and taking place in the distant future of 1960, makes some rather impressive predictions about the future. One of the reasons it wasn't published had to do with in 1914), the publisher finding stuff like electro-mechanical calculators, widespread 12-year-old title character temporarily has use of automobiles, fax machines, skyscrapers, automatic security systems a small outbuilding since the family horse has died and remote-controlled warfare too unrealistic. On the other hand, people still write using quills, records are still kept in books (that is, a colossal book apparently four meters tall, whose pages are turned with machinery) and there is apparently no air transport (except the odd airship his father hasn't decided whether to get another horse or two, probably).
* The iconic intro to ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'', "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to
a dead channel", is somewhat spoiled by the fact that on many modern [=TVs=], the color you see when you turn your TV to a dead channel is ''bright blue''. (In 1984 when the book was written, car. One later edition's professorial introduction describes it would have been an ugly gray static.)as "no longer a stable but not yet a garage".



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* {{Game Show}}s: Watch any classic episode of a game show that offers prizes, particularly prior to 1990 (or even 2000), and you'll see electronics and other items that were cutting edge then that are today outdated.
** Examples include the countless '''video cassette recorders''' (first offered circa 1978, when they cost $1,000 or more and were considered a "grand prize"(!)), the '''Muntz projection [=TV=]''' (the "deluxe" style of television viewing, with a (gasp) 3-by-4 foot viewing screen) and the '''large satellite dishes''' (from companies such as General Instruments). '''Cellular car telephones''', which were worth $3,000(!), was a common top-level prize, as were '''portable telephones'''.
*** Several shows also offered an "'''entertainment center'''" – basically a stand with several dividers, which went along with the TV, [=VCR=], audio equipment, connectors and remote control whose components today would be worthless (except for perhaps the audio components, even though there's virtually no market today for cassette tapes and even compact discs are declining in share).
** '''Computers''' are another common example. Take a look at, for instance, a ''Series/TicTacDough'' episode from 1979, when the Apple [=II=] computer was offered as a prize (worth $2,000-plus(!), counting the disk drives, monitor and printer that came with it) ... state of the art for the time with its 64K memory (expandable to double it), and people were truly excited about winning one. Today, it's a museum piece, and even low-end modern computers have several gigabytes of RAM. Commodore, Radio Shack and Texas Instruments also saw their computers given away as game show prizes (with and without the other items), and likewise, except for hobbyists, these computers have long since become obsolete.
*** Speaking of ''Tic Tac Dough'', each of those video screens on the big board were generated by its own Apple [=II=], in stunning 16-color 40x40 lo-res graphics, with the nine Apples networked by an Altair 8800. Compare, at the time, the 1978-79 version of ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', which still used ''printed cards'' on their big board! By 1984, when the Alex Trebek edition of ''Jeopardy!'' debuted, its 30-screen board made ''Tic Tac Dough'''s board look quaint by comparison.
** Years before Skype and other no-cost proprietary voice-over-IP services, there were videophones. At least one episode of the 1980s version of ''Series/HighRollers'', which is uploaded to various video sharing sites, offers '''video phones''' (a $500 item) as a prize; it was touted as state-of-the-art way to see and hear the people you're talking to.
*** However, videophones differ in one key respect from all the other items in this entry in that nobody really wanted them. Video chat systems, the modern equivalent, are nothing like as popular as voice only or text chat.
** Speaking of music devices, one ''Series/SaleOfTheCentury'' shopping-level prize was a $12,000 '''video jukebox'''. Manufactured by Rowe International, users simply deposited their money into the jukebox and chose one of the 100 (or so) selections; after the selection was made, the computer would pick out the appropriate video cassette the song was stored on, cue up the video and play it on the video screen above. This was a giant machine that likely cost a ton to maintain and was only modestly successful. (Rowe had been making video jukeboxes, actually, since the 1960s.) Today, while certainly not cheap, video jukeboxes (such as those made by [=AMI=] Entertainment) are far more compact, using [=WiFi=] to access videos that connect to a nearby TV monitor.
*** Video jukeboxes actually date back to the 1930s. Music videos were called soundies and were played on 16mm film. You could find them in cafes, soda shops, restaurants, bars, train stations and other public places. The Scopitone type lasted well into the 1960s. [[Creator/{{AMC}} American Movie Classics]] used to show interstitial soundies with a bit of historical info provided by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_%22Jazzbo%22_Collins Al "Jazzbo" Collins]]. Website/YouTube has many examples of soundies in b/w and color.
* ''Series/CentralParkWest'' had characters use a very primitive form of email (which had just been introduced into the workplace around the time the series was created), and didn't have any modern functions such as inactivity timeout, password protection or full text editor. A large part of stockbroker Gil Chase's storyline is that several characters (including his ex-girlfriend and a romantic rival) are able to access his email without any password and nearly destroy his reputation by playing havoc with his contacts.
* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'':
** "Double Sting," from the first season, sees Rosco using a large "field telephone" to communicate with Enos. The field telephone was typically used only by law enforcement (and in large cities, more populous counties and state agencies at that) and the very rich in 1979. Today, everyone even in the most backwoods of communities is using cell phones and iPhones, perhaps videophone sites like Skype just like the rest of us.
** "Uncle Boss," taped in 1979 but aired during the third season, sees Boss Hogg's corrupt nephew, Hughie, introduce Boss and Rosco to the state-of-the-art technological marvel ... the video cassette recorder! Quite a bit of time is dedicated to explaining how one of these contraptions work. Although its purpose in the plot is to attempt to frame Bo and Luke for bank robbery (as a security camera is attached to the [=VCR=]), there may have been a subliminal message in it all buy a [=VCR=] and you capture the Dukes on tape ... every week! In any case, the [=VCR=] has long met its match, and banks typically now use hard drives and hidden security cameras to monitor banks. In addition, note that Boss (along with Hughie) hand-deliver the videotape with the incriminating evidence to the [=FBI=] ... but get detoured into a junkyard and are held up briefly by Cooter's magnet(!), which erases the tape; today, Boss could simply send the footage of his "bank robbery" to the [=FBI=] via a private Internet connection (such as file transfer protocol, or ftp, site), making his favorite scheme of hiring impersonators to pull off a "Duke boy bank robbery" even easier to accomplish without Bo and Luke even having a clue what's going on ... until federal authorities converge on the farm with warrants for their arrest.
* ''Series/SesameStreet'': Around the mid-1980s, Oscar the Grouch owned a "grouch computer." The buzzword back then was "friendly computer," which simply meant easy to use; of course, with Oscar involved, the "friendly greetings" were replaced by "grouch" ones. Other Sesame Street residents (notably, Luis and Maria) also owned a computer. All segments with computers were used to teach basic computer skills and workings of computers. And of course, these were computers that were state-of-the-art for the era, at a time when they were far less common.
* In the pilot of ''Series/LoisAndClark'', the Kents' use of a fax machine was presented as evidence they weren't subject to the old-time "American Gothic" farmer stereotypes. Now it has the opposite effect of making them seem out-of-date.
* On ''Series/{{Rescue 911}}'', the prevalence of carbon monoxide poisonings looks weird to modern audiences because carbon monoxide alarms are about as common as fire alarms. Possibly a case of SeinfeldIsUnfunny, as said poisonings were what led to demand for the development of an alarm that would detect carbon monoxide.
* On an older episode of ''Series/LawAndOrder'' Lenny got a lead by looking at the victim's pager. Remember pagers?
* In an episode of ''Series/SavedByTheBell'', Bayside High decided to put their yearbooks on videotapes. Good luck to them finding a VHS player in the 21st century.
* In the original ''Series/{{Carrusel}}'', video games were not present at all. While this was Mexico in 1989-1990, the Brazilian 2012 remake did insert them, since it would no longer be credible to have a show about children's school and daily life without video games present in any way.

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[[folder:Live Action [[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* {{Game Show}}s: Watch any classic episode of a game show that offers prizes, particularly prior to 1990 (or even 2000), ''Series/NashBridges''' [[ThePreciousPreciousCar ultra-rare and you'll see electronics expensive as a Renaissance sculpture]] Hemi'Cuda is beaten senselessly in both drag racing and other items that were cutting edge then that are today outdated.
** Examples include
maneuverability by a modern Mitsubishi Evo. Any Evo since [[TheNineties the countless '''video cassette recorders''' (first offered circa 1978, when they cost $1,000 or more and were considered late 1990s]]. Then add a "grand prize"(!)), the '''Muntz projection [=TV=]''' (the "deluxe" style of television viewing, with a (gasp) 3-by-4 foot viewing screen) and the '''large satellite dishes''' (from companies such as General Instruments). '''Cellular car telephones''', which were few hundred dollars' worth $3,000(!), was a common top-level prize, as were '''portable telephones'''.
*** Several shows also offered an "'''entertainment center'''" – basically a stand with several dividers, which went along with the TV, [=VCR=], audio equipment, connectors and remote control whose components today would be worthless (except for perhaps the audio components, even though there's virtually no market today for cassette tapes and even compact discs are declining in share).
** '''Computers''' are another common example. Take a look at, for instance, a ''Series/TicTacDough'' episode from 1979, when the Apple [=II=] computer was offered as a prize (worth $2,000-plus(!), counting the disk drives, monitor and printer that came with it) ... state
of the art mechanical improvements for the time with its 64K memory (expandable to double it), and people were truly excited about winning one. Today, it's a museum piece, and even low-end modern computers have several gigabytes of RAM. Commodore, Radio Shack and Texas Instruments also saw their computers given away as game show prizes (with and without the other items), and likewise, except for hobbyists, these computers have long since become obsolete.
*** Speaking of ''Tic Tac Dough'', each of those video screens on the big board were generated by its own Apple [=II=], in stunning 16-color 40x40 lo-res graphics, with the nine Apples networked by an Altair 8800. Compare, at the time, the 1978-79 version of ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', which still used ''printed cards'' on their big board! By 1984, when the Alex Trebek edition of ''Jeopardy!'' debuted, its 30-screen board made ''Tic Tac Dough'''s board look quaint by comparison.
** Years before Skype and other no-cost proprietary voice-over-IP services, there were videophones. At least one episode of the 1980s version of ''Series/HighRollers'', which is uploaded to various video sharing sites, offers '''video phones''' (a $500 item) as a prize; it was touted as state-of-the-art way to see and hear the people you're talking to.
*** However, videophones differ in one key respect from all the other items in this entry in that nobody really wanted them. Video chat systems, the modern equivalent, are nothing like as popular as voice only or text chat.
** Speaking of music devices, one ''Series/SaleOfTheCentury'' shopping-level prize was a $12,000 '''video jukebox'''. Manufactured by Rowe International, users simply deposited their money into the jukebox and chose one of the 100 (or so) selections; after the selection was made, the computer would pick out the appropriate video cassette the song was stored on, cue up the video and play it on the video screen above. This was a giant machine that likely cost a ton to maintain and was only modestly successful. (Rowe had been making video jukeboxes, actually, since the 1960s.) Today, while certainly not cheap, video jukeboxes (such as those made by [=AMI=] Entertainment) are far more compact, using [=WiFi=] to access videos that connect to a nearby TV monitor.
*** Video jukeboxes actually date back to the 1930s. Music videos were called soundies and were played on 16mm film. You could find them in cafes, soda shops, restaurants, bars, train stations and other public places. The Scopitone type lasted well into the 1960s. [[Creator/{{AMC}} American Movie Classics]] used to show interstitial soundies with a bit of historical info provided by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_%22Jazzbo%22_Collins Al "Jazzbo" Collins]]. Website/YouTube has many examples of soundies in b/w and color.
* ''Series/CentralParkWest'' had characters use a very primitive form of email (which had just been introduced into the workplace around the time the series was created), and didn't have any modern functions such as inactivity timeout, password protection or full text editor. A large part of stockbroker Gil Chase's storyline is that several characters (including his ex-girlfriend and a romantic rival) are able to access his email without any password and nearly destroy his reputation by playing havoc with his contacts.
* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'':
** "Double Sting," from the first season, sees Rosco using a large "field telephone" to communicate with Enos. The field telephone was typically used only by law enforcement (and in large cities, more populous counties and state agencies at that) and the very rich in 1979. Today, everyone even in the most backwoods of communities is using cell phones and iPhones, perhaps videophone sites like Skype just like the rest of us.
** "Uncle Boss," taped in 1979 but aired during the third season, sees Boss Hogg's corrupt nephew, Hughie, introduce Boss and Rosco to the state-of-the-art technological marvel ... the video cassette recorder! Quite a bit of time is dedicated to explaining how one of these contraptions work. Although its purpose in the plot is to attempt to frame Bo and Luke for bank robbery (as a security camera is attached to the [=VCR=]), there may have been a subliminal message in it all buy a [=VCR=] and you capture the Dukes on tape ... every week! In any case, the [=VCR=] has long met its match, and banks typically now use hard drives and hidden security cameras to monitor banks. In addition, note that Boss (along with Hughie) hand-deliver the videotape with the incriminating evidence to the [=FBI=] ... but get detoured into a junkyard and are held up briefly by Cooter's magnet(!), which erases the tape; today, Boss could simply send the footage of his "bank robbery" to the [=FBI=] via a private Internet connection (such as file transfer protocol, or ftp, site), making his favorite scheme of hiring impersonators to pull off a "Duke boy bank robbery" even easier to accomplish without Bo and Luke even having a clue what's going on ... until federal authorities converge on the farm with warrants for their arrest.
* ''Series/SesameStreet'': Around the mid-1980s, Oscar the Grouch owned a "grouch computer." The buzzword back then was "friendly computer," which simply meant easy to use; of course, with Oscar involved, the "friendly greetings" were replaced by "grouch" ones. Other Sesame Street residents (notably, Luis and Maria) also owned a computer. All segments with computers were used to teach basic computer skills and workings of computers. And of course, these were computers that were state-of-the-art for the era, at a time when they were far less common.
* In the pilot of ''Series/LoisAndClark'', the Kents' use of a fax machine was presented as evidence they weren't subject to the old-time "American Gothic" farmer stereotypes. Now it has the opposite effect of making them seem out-of-date.
* On ''Series/{{Rescue 911}}'', the prevalence of carbon monoxide poisonings looks weird to modern audiences because carbon monoxide alarms are about as common as fire alarms. Possibly a case of SeinfeldIsUnfunny, as said poisonings were what led to demand for the development of an alarm that would detect carbon monoxide.
* On an older episode of ''Series/LawAndOrder'' Lenny got a lead by looking at the victim's pager. Remember pagers?
* In an episode of ''Series/SavedByTheBell'', Bayside High decided to put their yearbooks on videotapes. Good luck to them finding a VHS player in the 21st century.
* In the original ''Series/{{Carrusel}}'', video games were not present at all. While this was Mexico in 1989-1990, the Brazilian 2012 remake did insert them, since it would no longer be credible to have a show about children's school and daily life without video games present in any way.
Evo...



[[folder:Music]]
* From ''Music/TheWall'' the alienated rockstar complains he's "Got thirteen channels of shit on the T.V. to choose from." Music/BruceSpringsteen claims "57 channels and nothin' on." These days it's more likely to be hundreds of channels of shit.

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[[folder:Videogames]]
* From ''Music/TheWall'' Racing simulators such as ''Videogame/ForzaMotorsport'' and ''Videogame/GranTurismo'' often showcase the alienated rockstar complains he's "Got thirteen channels of shit on huge gap in automotive performance over the T.V. years. In ''Forza'', for example, the roaring first-generation [[CoolCar Mustang GT]] will get curb-stomped around a race track by a modern Ford hatchback due to choose from." Music/BruceSpringsteen claims "57 channels the newer car's better power delivery, tires, and nothin' on." These days it's more likely advanced transmission. However, [[MagikarpPower older cars often end up being more upgradeable due to be hundreds of channels of shit.their layout and simple design]], allowing tuned muscle cars to thrash (lower-end) supercars around the track.




[[folder:Radio]]
* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': A particularly glaring example of "Technology Marches On" occurs in the episode "The Tape Recorder". Walter Denton causes trouble by purchasing an outrageously expensive tape recorder ($385 in 1950 funds!) for Madison High School - in the grips of Mr. Conklin's latest economy drive. [[http://www.prestohistory.com/Presto5.html A circa 1950 tape recorder, incidentally, isn't a small device, but one of the huge reel-to-reel affairs seen here]]. HilarityEnsues as Miss Brooks and Mr. Conklin are forced to explain the purchase to school board head Mr. Stone. Even more HilarityEnsues when the records Walter Denton made are played back in a mixed-up state.

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\n[[folder:Radio]]\n* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': A particularly glaring example of "Technology Marches On" occurs ----

!!Electrical Components
When transistors came around
in the episode "The Tape Recorder". Walter Denton causes trouble by purchasing an outrageously expensive tape recorder ($385 70s to do everything a vacuum tube could, it'd mean that the old vacuum tube would go the wayside, right? Or when integrated circuits came around, who needed a discrete transistor? Or hell, why are we even using electricity? Optics would be way cooler.

[[folder:Literature]]
* In James Blish's ''Cities
in 1950 funds!) for Madison High School - Flight'' series, written in the grips of Mr. Conklin's latest 1960s, the galactic economy drive. [[http://www.prestohistory.com/Presto5.html A circa 1950 tape recorder, incidentally, isn't runs on germanium as a small device, but one of treasure metal. Because it's essential to electronics.
* Creator/GordonKorman's ''The War With Mr. Wizzle'' was written in
the huge reel-to-reel affairs seen here]]. HilarityEnsues as Miss Brooks early eighties, and Mr. Conklin are forced to explain as such the purchase computer he introduces to [=MacDonald=] Hall is a monstrosity of a machine that has to be fed punch cards. The 2003 reprint updates this to the modern era, noting that the school board head Mr. Stone. Even more HilarityEnsues when would now be filled to the records Walter Denton made are played back in a mixed-up state.brim with computers. So Wizzle instead introduces software he's written to control the school.



[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict'' a RunningGag is Mike's inability to find batteries so he can show off a high-status gadget of his, a ''portable'' CD player. Granted, ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict'' is a PeriodPiece set in 1989, but in the modern day, when [=CDs=] have gone the way of the dodo, it stands out.
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', made in 1998 and set in [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2005]], the Briefing segments are presented through the inserting-ejecting sound effects and screen artefacts as a series of VHS tapes (in a world which also has fully immersive virtual reality simulations). Otacon also has the original [=PlayStation=] in his lab, though it's not out of character for an {{Otaku}} to be into retro games. Finally, Psycho Mantis's television-breaking powers imitate the Video mode on a specific brand of 90s Sony CRT [=TVs=], making the holdover quite odd when they reappear with Mantis's [[TheCameo cameo]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidGroundZeroes'', a game released on consoles made primarily for [=HDMI=] output.
* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series tends to use technology more or less consistent with the time the games were made, despite generally being set 15-20 years in the future. By 2009, when ''Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth'' came out, [=DVDs=] were common enough that any security footage was presented on [=DVDs=], even in the flashback case that took place chronologically earlier than any case in the series to that point...in 2012, still shortly in the future. Earlier games, however, frequently used VHS despite being set even later.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', despite having plenty of futuristic {{Magitek}} like giant robots and holographic arcade games, has Cloud owning a "PHS" and using it to contact the other party members. This was a stripped-down Asian cellular phone service aimed at the personal market, which had a reputation for only being used by children or poor people. PHS became obsolete around the time that anyone could get powerful mobile phone coverage for extremely cheap, and few people remember it even in its home market - in the West, where PHS was never used, it's LostInTranslation. Also, enormous white '97 CRT monitors appear here and there between fantastical SF designs; it's especially striking in the control room in Junon, which is wall-to-wall with them (and just outside a biomechanical gas chamber with no resemblance to real technology).
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* Barely 10 years after the series ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' aired, younger viewers seeing the show the first time would wonder what exactly Helga's father (the "Beeper King" of "Big Bob's Beepers") was selling.
* Cellphones are present in ''WesternAnimation/GodzillaTheSeries'', but the designs are that of the old clam shell style with antennas, having aired from 1998 to 2000.
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!!Electrical Components
When transistors came around in the 70s to do everything a vacuum tube could, it'd mean that the old vacuum tube would go the wayside, right? Or when integrated circuits came around, who needed a discrete transistor? Or hell, why are we even using electricity? Optics would be way cooler.

[[folder:Literature]]
* In James Blish's ''Cities in Flight'' series, written in the 1960s, the galactic economy runs on germanium as a treasure metal. Because it's essential to electronics.
* Creator/GordonKorman's ''The War With Mr. Wizzle'' was written in the early eighties, and as such the computer he introduces to [=MacDonald=] Hall is a monstrosity of a machine that has to be fed punch cards. The 2003 reprint updates this to the modern era, noting that the school would now be filled to the brim with computers. So Wizzle instead introduces software he's written to control the school.
[[/folder]]




!!Automobiles
Drifting is cool, right? Keeping your head cool and your car in balance while on two wheels is the epitome of badass driving? It might have been ...until [[TheSeventies the 1970s]]. Most modern cars, not just performance cars, have tire sizes which a few decades ago were just for [[CoolCar Ferraris and Porsches]] and the ''quality'' of tires and suspension is ages beyond. Even a humble modern hot hatchback may pull stunts which in the past were barely imaginable outside racetracks. Well, if a car still works well even after a decade, it can become WhatAPieceOfJunk.

[[folder:Film]]
* In ''Film/GoldenEye'', Film/JamesBond pulls a few stunts in his old companion the Aston Martin [=DB5=] while street-racing FemmeFatale Xenya in a Ferrari [=F355=]. While impressive by 1965 standards, the chassis and suspension of the [=DB5=] would have never held up to a modern [=GTI=], leave alone a [=F355=]. To film the chase, the [=F355=] had to be modified, otherwise it wouldn't drift. [[SarcasmMode Maybe this is the reason]] Q retires the Aston and gives Bond a [=BMW=] instead.
** Film/JamesBond's Aston Martin [=DB5=] was [[ImprobablyCoolCar an exceptional vehicle]]... for [[TheSixties the 1960s]]. 284hp may seem a lot (and 71bhp/L wouldn't be bad for a naturally aspirated engine today) until a turbocharged [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_%28third_generation%29 Ford Focus RS]] or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza_WRX#WRX_3 Subaru Impreza WRX]] zips past. [[BoringButPractical And it's 4 times cheaper]]. The [=DB5=], however, is still undeniably about 470 times cooler. How many wankers do you see rolling past with an ill-fitted trumpet exhaust on an Aston Martin?

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\n!!Automobiles\nDrifting is cool, right? Keeping your head cool ----

!!Storage Media
Who else here has ever talked about "taping" a show on to a hard disc, or "rewinding" a DVD? Some media applications call it "seeking" or "skipping", but those are even older terms, even if they're not tied to specific medium. It's also still a trend to call any solid-state storage media a "tape", after audio cassette-tapes
and your car in balance while video-tape formats like VHS.

[[folder:Films]]
* Theater movies are still largely released
on two wheels film, digital distribution (and even projection) still being rather new and expensive technology. Downloading a feature film at a high enough resolution that it doesn't appear blurry when projected onto a large screen is the epitome of badass driving? It a large file download ''even by early 2010s standards.''
** The editing is cheaper than it
might have been ...until [[TheSeventies appear. Editing on film requires large quantities of film, lots of chemistry, and lots of time. In contrast, you can do a year's worth of film editing in two weeks on digital editing equipment, meaning you can quite feasibly rent the 1970s]]. Most modern cars, not just performance cars, have tire sizes which a few decades ago were just for [[CoolCar Ferraris and Porsches]] editing rig instead of buying it, and the ''quality'' of tires film processing lab, and suspension is ages beyond. Even a humble modern hot hatchback may pull stunts which in hiring all the past were barely imaginable outside racetracks. Well, if a car still works well support staff needed for it, and come out ahead, even after if you don't already have a decade, it can become WhatAPieceOfJunk.

[[folder:Film]]
* In ''Film/GoldenEye'', Film/JamesBond pulls a few stunts in his old companion
more-or-less finished idea of how the Aston Martin [=DB5=] while street-racing FemmeFatale Xenya film needs to come together (which is almost a necessity in a Ferrari [=F355=]. While impressive by 1965 standards, editing on film). Home [=PCs=] are to the chassis and suspension point now where there's really only two things inhibiting private production of Hollywood-quality feature films: It's hard to get hold of the [=DB5=] would specialized video cards needed for the special image format used in high-end digital movie editing, and the cameras available on the home market usually have never held up to a modern [=GTI=], leave alone a [=F355=]. To film tricky restrictions built into the chase, licensing agreements for the [=F355=] had to be modified, otherwise it wouldn't drift. [[SarcasmMode Maybe this is video and audio [=CODEC=]s they use.
* In ''Film/CloakAndDagger'' everyone calls
the reason]] Q retires game cartridge with the Aston and gives Bond hidden data a [=BMW=] instead.
** Film/JamesBond's Aston Martin [=DB5=] was [[ImprobablyCoolCar an exceptional vehicle]]... for [[TheSixties the 1960s]]. 284hp may seem a lot (and 71bhp/L wouldn't be bad for a naturally aspirated engine today) until a turbocharged [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_%28third_generation%29 Ford Focus RS]] or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza_WRX#WRX_3 Subaru Impreza WRX]] zips past. [[BoringButPractical And it's 4 times cheaper]]. The [=DB5=], however, is still undeniably
"tape".
* Lampshaded nicely in ''Film/TheWeddingSinger'': [[JerkJock Glenn]] brags
about 470 times cooler. How many wankers do you see rolling past with an ill-fitted trumpet exhaust buying a CD player for around $1,000, and [[LoveInterests Julia]] promptly offers to get a record to play on an Aston Martin?it.



* Obviously, quite a lot of books were written before the automobile was invented. We could probably have a whole "Check Out Life Before Cars" section on how some classic works of literature might have easily resolved themselves if cars had been available.
* While a period piece, in ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' the Joads have to deal with a broken transmission - they have to find an old one in a junkyard and then install it themselves with only basic hand tools, something only the most hardcore car guys would attempt on a do-it-yourself basis and would require at least a hoist in any post-UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 vehicle.
* Invoked in Booth Tarkington's ''{{Penrod}}'' (set and published in 1914), the 12-year-old title character temporarily has use of a small outbuilding since the family horse has died and his father hasn't decided whether to get another horse or a car. One later edition's professorial introduction describes it as "no longer a stable but not yet a garage".

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* Obviously, quite a lot of The ''Literature/{{Starfire}}'' books were by David Weber and Steve White often has warship personnel say "on the tape" to mean they've recorded a message for transmission. The series is set several hundred years in the future but was written before in the automobile was invented. We could probably have a whole "Check Out Life Before Cars" section on how some classic works of literature might have easily resolved themselves if cars had been available.
* While a period piece, in ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' the Joads have to deal with a broken transmission - they have to find an old one in a junkyard and then install it themselves with only basic hand tools, something only the most hardcore car guys would attempt on a do-it-yourself basis and would require at least a hoist in any post-UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 vehicle.
* Invoked in Booth Tarkington's ''{{Penrod}}'' (set and published in 1914), the 12-year-old title character temporarily has use of a small outbuilding since the family horse has died and his father hasn't decided whether to get another horse or a car. One later edition's professorial introduction describes it as "no longer a stable but not yet a garage".
mid-2000s.



[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* ''Series/NashBridges''' [[ThePreciousPreciousCar ultra-rare and expensive as a Renaissance sculpture]] Hemi'Cuda is beaten senselessly in both drag racing and maneuverability by a modern Mitsubishi Evo. Any Evo since [[TheNineties the late 1990s]]. Then add a few hundred dollars' worth of mechanical improvements for the Evo...

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[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
[[folder:Live Action -- TV Series]]
* ''Series/NashBridges''' [[ThePreciousPreciousCar ultra-rare and expensive as In an episode of ''Series/SavedByTheBell'', Bayside High decided to put their yearbooks on videotapes. Good luck to them finding a Renaissance sculpture]] Hemi'Cuda is beaten senselessly VHS player in both drag racing and maneuverability by a modern Mitsubishi Evo. Any Evo since [[TheNineties the late 1990s]]. Then add a few hundred dollars' worth of mechanical improvements for the Evo...21st century.



[[folder:Videogames]]
* Racing simulators such as ''Videogame/ForzaMotorsport'' and ''Videogame/GranTurismo'' often showcase the huge gap in automotive performance over the years. In ''Forza'', for example, the roaring first-generation [[CoolCar Mustang GT]] will get curb-stomped around a race track by a modern Ford hatchback due to the newer car's better power delivery, tires, and more advanced transmission. However, [[MagikarpPower older cars often end up being more upgradeable due to their layout and simple design]], allowing tuned muscle cars to thrash (lower-end) supercars around the track.

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[[folder:Toys]]
* Racing simulators such The "DVD rewinder" even exists as ''Videogame/ForzaMotorsport'' a joke appliance.[[labelnote:*]]It's simply a base with a powered spindle and ''Videogame/GranTurismo'' often showcase a button turning the huge gap in automotive performance over motor on and off.[[/labelnote]]
* Topps' ''Wacky Packages'' has exposed tape sticking out of
the years. In ''Forza'', for example, [[http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/91_topps/4a_front_supid_moron_bros_small.html package of "Stupid Moron Bros. 2"]].
* The ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise has a few characters who in [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1
the roaring first-generation [[CoolCar Mustang GT]] will get curb-stomped around original incarnation of the brand]] turned into at-the-time current technology, most famously Soundwave and his minions (who respectively turn into a race track by a modern Ford hatchback due (micro)cassette player and cassette tapes). Owing to the newer car's better power delivery, tires, and more advanced transmission. However, [[MagikarpPower older cars often end up being more upgradeable due fact that no-one uses cassettes anymore, most new toys of the characters either refer to their layout alt-modes by different names or give them entirely new (or slightly different[[labelnote:*]]such as ''Titans Return''[='=]s "Spy Tablets"[[/labelnote]]) alt-modes entirely.
** Soundwave, being such a distinct character, thanks to both his cassette minions
and simple design]], allowing tuned muscle his distinct voice, is generally an exercise in creativity as to how to render him for a new day and age. The consistent themes that he needs to hit are audio communications and CreepyMonotone. Such themes were covered by Predator Drones, Stealth Planes, Communication's Satellites, bats, and the Nissan Cube (one of the first cars to thrash (lower-end) supercars around the track.designed with MP3 music devices in mind).



!!Agriculture
A lot of the old science fiction features a world with food shortage and rationing due to extreme overpopulation. [[FutureFoodIsArtificial 90% of the food is yeast or synthetic]]. Except that... the figures stated have been surpassed or near so, and there is significant overproduction. This is largely thanks to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution Green Revolution]] which, in addition to mechanization of planting and harvest, also included breeding a lot of high-yield and drought- or pest-resistant crops. (Not all "technology" is machine-based.)

It should be noted that some of the agricultural technologies depend on petroleum and other materials which can soon run out... assuming we will not have enough energy to synthesize more, or develop alternatives. A society with no energy shortages depicted that way...

[[folder:Literature]]
* Literature/TheCavesOfSteel. Everyone lives in {{megacit|y}}ies, almost all the food is yeast, efficiency is necessary to the point of a personal cubicle in the communal bathroom being a luxury, and there is strict PopulationControl. Population? Eight billion.
* Literature/{{Foundation}}. Trantor needs twenty agricultural worlds to feed its forty billion people. Today, over half the population of Earth is urban, meaning the agriculture of a single planet should have little problem feeding four billion people who produce no food. If you take into account that later sources claim Trantor has significant artificial food production on its own...
** A related problem is that Trantor is stated to be a single, planet-covering city hundreds or thousands of levels deep, and there are special observation towers that you have to use if you want to see the sky. There's absolutely no way that you need that kind of urban structure to house a mere 40 billion people when we have 7 billion on Earth with cities covering only a few per cent of the land surface and most of that you can't travel around in much without going outside. (Yes, there are places where you can travel around significant sections of cities entirely indoors, but you have to do it intentionally and it's both limiting and inconvenient in most places where it's possible at all.) Also, if the entire planet is underground, what exactly is stopping the Trantorians from putting the dirt back on the unused surface and growing their own food?
** Compounding the problem yet again is that Asimov was self-admittedly bad at scale and bad at remembering how many people were supposed to live on Trantor, causing its population to vary from 40 billions to 4 trillions, depending on the book.
* Literature/LuckyStarr: Earth has a population of six billion. Enough to be dependent on food imports from Mars and Venus.
* Literature/TheLatheOfHeaven. The year is 2002. A man can afford an egg maybe once a month, and it's been twenty years since any grain could be spared for making alcohol. Population, seven billion.
* ''[[Literature/MakeRoomMakeRoom Make Room! Make Room!]]'' (the book on which ''Film/SoylentGreen'' is loosely based): The year is 1999. As stated in the book:
-->Now the oil is gone, the topsoil depleted and washed away, the trees chopped down, the animals extinct, the earth poisoned, and all we have to show for this is seven billion people fighting over the scraps that are left, living a miserable existence...
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Zigzagged.
** On the one hand, hive cities easily reach populations in the billions, but the reason they exist is that they're the only habitable ([[NoOSHACompliance sorta]]) places on the planet (usually a DeathWorld, in desert, an ocean, or so polluted and/or radioactive even bionic systems only last a few minutes variants), so a planet of ten billion people has them in three or four hives. These get pretty much all their food from off-planets, with other worlds entirely devoted to agricultural production (using both mind-bogglingly advanced machinery and manual labor techniques medieval peasants would have laughed at).
** On the other hand [[PlanetTerra Holy Terra]] is so densely populated that its soil is utterly barren and its atmosphere is a fog of pollution. Massive, labyrinthine edifices of state sprawl across the vast majority of the surface. Its oceans have long ago boiled away. Many mountain ranges have been leveled, perhaps all of them except the Himalayas, which seemingly remain all but untouched due to the laboratories said to be underneath and the chambers of the Astronomican that course throughout the whole mountain range. No specifics are given on the population anymore, just "billions", possibly at least a trillion depending on the source.

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!!Agriculture
A lot
[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' Jotaro Kujo [[TimeTravel time travels]] from 1989 to 2011 to team up with his KidFromTheFuture, who's dealing with a villain that can steal people's memories with special CD-ROM's. Jotaro...understandably doesn't know what a CD-ROM ''even is'' (even though the CD had already been out for seven years from Jotaro's perspective).
-->'''Jotaro:''' "Wait, did you say disc? Is it like a cassette?"
-->'''Jolyne:''' "''Generation gaaap!''"
* In ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict'' a RunningGag is Mike's inability to find batteries so he can show off a high-status gadget of his, a ''portable'' CD player. Granted, ''VideoGame/WorldInConflict'' is a PeriodPiece set in 1989, but in the modern day, when [=CDs=] have gone the way
of the old science fiction features dodo, it stands out.
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', made in 1998 and set in [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2005]], the Briefing segments are presented through the inserting-ejecting sound effects and screen artefacts as a series of VHS tapes (in
a world with food shortage and rationing due to extreme overpopulation. [[FutureFoodIsArtificial 90% of the food is yeast or synthetic]]. Except that... the figures stated have been surpassed or near so, and there is significant overproduction. This is largely thanks to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution Green Revolution]] which, in addition to mechanization of planting and harvest, also included breeding a lot of high-yield and drought- or pest-resistant crops. (Not all "technology" is machine-based.)

It should be noted that some of the agricultural technologies depend on petroleum and other materials
which can soon run out... assuming we will not have enough energy to synthesize more, or develop alternatives. A society with no energy shortages depicted that way...

[[folder:Literature]]
* Literature/TheCavesOfSteel. Everyone lives in {{megacit|y}}ies, almost all
also has fully immersive virtual reality simulations). Otacon also has the food is yeast, efficiency is necessary to the point of a personal cubicle original [=PlayStation=] in the communal bathroom being a luxury, and there is strict PopulationControl. Population? Eight billion.
* Literature/{{Foundation}}. Trantor needs twenty agricultural worlds to feed its forty billion people. Today, over half the population of Earth is urban, meaning the agriculture of a single planet should have little problem feeding four billion people who produce no food. If you take into account that later sources claim Trantor has significant artificial food production on its own...
** A related problem is that Trantor is stated to be a single, planet-covering city hundreds or thousands of levels deep, and there are special observation towers that you have to use if you want to see the sky. There's absolutely no way that you need that kind of urban structure to house a mere 40 billion people when we have 7 billion on Earth with cities covering only a few per cent of the land surface and most of that you can't travel around in much without going outside. (Yes, there are places where you can travel around significant sections of cities entirely indoors, but you have to do it intentionally and
his lab, though it's both limiting and inconvenient in most places where it's possible at all.) Also, if the entire planet is underground, what exactly is stopping the Trantorians from putting the dirt back on the unused surface and growing their own food?
** Compounding the problem yet again is that Asimov was self-admittedly bad at scale and bad at remembering how many people were supposed to live on Trantor, causing its population to vary from 40 billions to 4 trillions, depending on the book.
* Literature/LuckyStarr: Earth has a population
not out of six billion. Enough character for an {{Otaku}} to be dependent on food imports from Mars and Venus.
into retro games.
* Literature/TheLatheOfHeaven. The year is 2002. A man can afford an egg maybe once a month, and it's been twenty ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series tends to use technology more or less consistent with the time the games were made, despite generally being set 15-20 years since any grain could be spared for making alcohol. Population, seven billion.
* ''[[Literature/MakeRoomMakeRoom Make Room! Make Room!]]'' (the book on which ''Film/SoylentGreen'' is loosely based): The year is 1999. As stated
in the book:
-->Now the oil is gone, the topsoil depleted and washed away, the trees chopped down, the animals extinct, the earth poisoned, and all we have to show for this is seven billion people fighting over the scraps
future. By 2009, when ''Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth'' came out, [=DVDs=] were common enough that are left, living a miserable existence...
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Zigzagged.
** On the one hand, hive cities easily reach populations
any security footage was presented on [=DVDs=], even in the billions, but the reason they exist is flashback case that they're took place chronologically earlier than any case in the only habitable ([[NoOSHACompliance sorta]]) places on series to that point...in 2012, still shortly in the planet (usually a DeathWorld, in desert, an ocean, or so polluted and/or radioactive future. Earlier games, however, frequently used VHS despite being set even bionic systems only last a few minutes variants), so a planet of ten billion people has them in three or four hives. These get pretty much all their food from off-planets, with other worlds entirely devoted to agricultural production (using both mind-bogglingly advanced machinery and manual labor techniques medieval peasants would have laughed at).
** On the other hand [[PlanetTerra Holy Terra]] is so densely populated that its soil is utterly barren and its atmosphere is a fog of pollution. Massive, labyrinthine edifices of state sprawl across the vast majority of the surface. Its oceans have long ago boiled away. Many mountain ranges have been leveled, perhaps all of them except the Himalayas, which seemingly remain all but untouched due to the laboratories said to be underneath and the chambers of the Astronomican that course throughout the whole mountain range. No specifics are given on the population anymore, just "billions", possibly at least a trillion depending on the source.
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!!Television, Video, and Radio

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!!Television, Video, [[folder:Web Original]]
* In ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'', Mike
and RadioJay run a VCR repair store, and their main source of income is from Harry Plinkett, who they defraud and lie to in order to have him constantly return his VCR for repairs.
* The "UsefulNotes/{{Sega|Genesis}} tapes" of ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''. Like a lot of elements in the series, this is deliberate parody of this trope.
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[[folder:Real Life]]
* For people that work in facilities that deal with confidential information there is actually a battle to get CD players. Since facilities trying to protect confidential information may not allow phones or MP3 players, for fear of someone saving information on them and walking out the door with it, but generally will allow older cd and tape players. The problem is some areas no longer stock CD players, so if you want to be able to listen to music at your office you're going to have to find an old player that still works. If your office is large you may be fighting hundreds of other people who are also stalking the local thrift stores for this outdated technology. Still, it's a pretty niche need.
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!!Televisions
[[UsefulNotes/{{Television}} TVs]] have changed a lot and tropes that applied to analog black & white models don't always carry over to the digital HD multipurpose display devices of the present.

[[folder:General]]



** There have been a few shows set in the far future which feature static-y [=TVs=] for added color (''Anime/CowboyBebop,'' for example). However, since digital television is replacing all forms of analog TV, the only way you could have old-style static or bad reception on future [=TVs=] is if you intentionally put it in. Bad reception does happen on digital TV, but differently; instead of static, you get horizontal strips of garbled blocks like a badly scratched DVD.
** Unless the video was a recording that had at some point in the past suffered decay in analog transmission or storage -- converting a static-y analog recording to digital is going to perfectly preserve the static. That's no excuse for live transmissions, though.
* Recently, many thrift and second-hand stores have stopped accepting Cathode Ray Tube televisions - and in some cases, video cassette recorders - because of their outdated technology and lack of interest by the public. Most of the old CRT [=TVs=] and [=VCRs=] sit on the shelves for months, unsold, before the stores wind up taking the items to an electronics recycling center (often at a financial loss to the thrift store), and signs at the stores often direct people wishing to make such donations to go to the nearest electronics recycling center. (Although most stores do still accept [=VHS=] videotapes, much like it's relatively easy to find eight-track tapes at thrift stores.)
** In countries where analogue transmission has been turned off in favour of digital (a large chunk of Asia, Europe and Australasia), CRT televisions are outright worthless without a set-top box, which has added to second-hand and thrift stores turning them away.
* The trope page for PoorMansPorn has a whole section (Type C) dedicated to people trying to watch scrambled porn on TV. This is now outdated (except in 80s-90s period pieces), as newer television sets recognized the scrambled signal and replaced it with a blue screen, and nowadays you simply get a screen saying you do not get that particular adult video channel.
** For that matter, the very concept of PoorMansPorn is mostly obsolete. Actual porn is freely available, in huge quantities, over the Internet. Admittedly, you're probably not going to be viewing porn at the local library, so you do need your own computer and Internet service. Still, the most common users of PoorMansPorn weren't the poor, but children who weren't allowed to view anything else. Nowadays, like it or not, any kid who has hit puberty has probably looked up some illicit porn at some point.
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[[folder:Film]]



* In a ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' article about the fifty worst things about the internet, one panel showed a family huddled around their computer watching a movie on Netflix on their tiny monitor, while their large beautiful flatscreen TV sat in the background unused. The issue came out in 2009; nowadays there are several ways to watch streaming sites through your TV (even back then, the family could have used an HDMI cable to plug the computer into the TV if they ''really'' wanted to). Hell, many TV's now have online connectivity, eliminating the need for a middleman altogether.
* Speaking of ''Mad'', one of ''Series/{{MADtv}}'s'' earliest regular sketches was "Lowered Expectations", a video dating service for EXTREMELY maladjusted individuals. Despite being hilarious, the sketches quickly became dated due to the rise of [[DatingServiceDisaster online dating]], which rendered video dating services obsolete. As a result, the sketch was quietly retired by the late 90's.

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* In a ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' article about ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartII'':as the fifty worst things about 1955 Doc looks at Marty's camcorder, he says "Now this is truly amazing: a portable television studio. No wonder [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan your president is an actor]], he's got to look good on television!"
* A notable example of
the internet, one panel showed a family huddled around their computer watching a movie ubiquity of curved CRT screens in the future is ''Film/TwoThousandTenTheYearWeMakeContact'', which used small [=CRT=]s everywhere on Netflix on their tiny monitor, while their large beautiful the sets for the Discovery. (This is especially ironic as Creator/StanleyKubrick used rear-projection to accomplish the illusion of flatscreen monitors for the same ship in ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''.)
* ''Film/{{Men in Black II}}'': Kids who grew up with [=DVDs=] and digitally downloaded movies probably won't get the locker-aliens' "Be Kind, Rewind" reference. The "Adult section in rear" gag, teens can probably figure out, though it also [[TheInternetIsForPorn dates the picture]].
* One of the ''Film/AlienNation''
TV sat movies had people using CRT monitors well after flatscreen monitors had become cheap and readily available in the background unused. The issue came out in 2009; nowadays there are several ways to watch real world. This was deliberate on the part of the filmmakers... while they were still using CRT monitors, they were using much more advanced interface devices and streaming sites through your TV (even back then, the family could have used an HDMI cable to plug the computer into the TV if they ''really'' wanted to). Hell, many TV's now have online connectivity, eliminating the need for a middleman altogether.
* Speaking of ''Mad'', one of ''Series/{{MADtv}}'s'' earliest regular sketches was "Lowered Expectations", a
video dating service for EXTREMELY maladjusted individuals. Despite being hilarious, the sketches quickly became dated was slightly ahead of where it is even today, several years later. This was to highlight that technology had developed in entirely different ways due to the rise of [[DatingServiceDisaster online dating]], which rendered video dating services obsolete. As Newcomers.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Literature]]
* A passage in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' (written in TheForties and TheFifties and set in something like an {{alternate|Universe}} {{crapsack|World}} DieselPunk universe) mentions
a result, the sketch "super-color-four-foot-screen television set" being "erected" in a public park like it was quietly retired by the late 90's.some sort of monument.




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[[/folder]]

[[folder:Live Action -- TV Series]]
* One of ''Series/{{MADtv}}'s'' earliest regular sketches was "Lowered Expectations", a video dating service for EXTREMELY maladjusted individuals. Despite being hilarious, the sketches quickly became dated due to the rise of [[DatingServiceDisaster online dating]], which rendered video dating services obsolete. As a result, the sketch was quietly retired by the late 90's.
* The producers of ''Series/BabylonFive'' tried to hide their use of CRT monitors by embedding the screens in bulky, futuristic looking equipment with lots of lights and buttons. Unfortunately you can still see that the screens are curved, like the screens of CRT monitors in the early-mid 1990s.
* ''Series/EarthFinalConflict'', produced in the late 20th century and set in the late 2010s/early 2020s, also used bulky CRT monitors in government buildings, corporate offices, and the Taelon Embassy, despite flat screens becoming cheaper and more ubiquitous late in the show's run.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Magazines]]
* In a ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' article about the fifty worst things about the internet, one panel showed a family huddled around their computer watching a movie on Netflix on their tiny monitor, while their large beautiful flatscreen TV sat in the background unused. The issue came out in 2009; nowadays there are several ways to watch streaming sites through your TV (even back then, the family could have used an HDMI cable to plug the computer into the TV if they ''really'' wanted to). Hell, many TV's now have online connectivity, eliminating the need for a middleman altogether.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Music]]
* From ''Music/TheWall'' the alienated rockstar complains he's "Got thirteen channels of shit on the T.V. to choose from." Music/BruceSpringsteen claims "57 channels and nothin' on." These days it's more likely to be hundreds of channels of shit.
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[[folder:Radio]]
* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': A particularly glaring example of "Technology Marches On" occurs in the episode "The Tape Recorder". Walter Denton causes trouble by purchasing an outrageously expensive tape recorder ($385 in 1950 funds!) for Madison High School -- in the grips of Mr. Conklin's latest economy drive. [[http://www.prestohistory.com/Presto5.html A circa 1950 tape recorder, incidentally, isn't a small device, but one of the huge reel-to-reel affairs seen here]]. HilarityEnsues as Miss Brooks and Mr. Conklin are forced to explain the purchase to school board head Mr. Stone. Even more HilarityEnsues when the records Walter Denton made are played back in a mixed-up state.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Video Games]]
*In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', Psycho Mantis's television-breaking powers imitate the Video mode on a specific brand of 90s Sony CRT [=TVs=], making the holdover quite odd when they reappear with Mantis's [[TheCameo cameo]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidGroundZeroes'', a game released on consoles made primarily for [=HDMI=] output.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' has enormous white '97 CRT monitors appear here and there between fantastical SF designs; it's especially striking in the control room in Junon, which is wall-to-wall with them (and just outside a biomechanical gas chamber with no resemblance to real technology).
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!!Other Thrift-store Tech
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[[folder:General]]
* When a work requires background music to suddenly end for humorous purposes, nine times out of ten they'll STILL put on [[RecordNeedleScratch the sound effect of a needle skating across a vinyl record.]] This even applies to kids' shows, where it is otherwise assumed that the audience won't have a clue what vinyl records are and need it explained every time they're mentioned.
* 2010 has various examples of thrift-store tech. (i) HAL's "memory module" room was reconstructed for 2010, but alongside the original futuristic-looking memory modules, a previously unseen keyboard is used to interact with HAL (due to his damaged speech circuits). Not a dead tech, but unfortunately it looks like a typical early '80s keyboard, contrasting badly with- and looking more dated than!- the original film's inventive design. (ii) Floyd's secret failsafe cutoff for HAL is to be activated by him typing nine 9s on a hacked calculator. Again, not a dead tech, but one which would be a far less obvious "first choice" gadget for that use today than it would have been in the mid-80s when calculators were still (somewhat) new and high-tech.
* In Kevin O'Donnell's novel ''ORA:CLE'', published in 1985, personal names are replaced by alphanumeric strings encoding personal attributes (including allotted public time and computer-related knowledge [!]); for example, the main character's name is [=ALL80 AFAHSC NFF6=] (Ale Elatey for short). However, it's set in a universe where ''all computers run unprotected operating systems like DOS'' and ''all news are shown in Bulletin Board Systems''. In '''2188'''.
* On the subject of CyberPunk, many of the genre's works (print and video) featured extensive virtual realities that today are being realized with applications such as ''Second Life''. While we can see the usefulness of VR for entertainment, education or training purposes, is it really more efficient to walk through a fully rendered VR representation of an automated factory to control and maintain operations, or would a screen of text and numbers and a keyboard be sufficient?
** The US Navy is actually incredibly enthusiastic about using VR and Second Life in particular to train servicemen and -women on things such as submarine operation. However some of their other applications reek of "we must retroactively justify this expense."
* When you pull up next to someone in traffic and motion to them to roll down their window, what do you do? That's right. You motion like you're rotating a lever, despite the fact that a vast majority of cars on the road these days have ''buttons'' to roll down windows... not levers. Still, everyone knows what you mean, presumably because levers are recent enough that everyone driving today can remember the days when they were common and also lever controlled windows are still included on vehicles (mostly base-model trucks and very cheap subcompacts) without power windows installed.
** Credit to comedian SteveHofstetter for trying to bring everyone forwards...
--> "I don't roll down my window. Because my car wasn't made in 1997. I vsshh down my window."
* The accepted icons for saving (a floppy disc) and a movie (a roll of film) are both representations of entirely obsolete technology -- but likely to last longer than the memory of the media themselves!
* People still use the term "dial a number" when telephones haven't used dials for decades.
* Many pictograms of telephones are also hopelessly out of date, ranging from the depiction of just the phone receiver, which looks a bit too clunky for today's standards, over the "classical" key phone with the receiver sitting on top like a torero hat, to the same design, but with a dial plate. Likewise, pictograms that tell you to switch off your cell phone can hardly keep pace with the rapidly evolving appearance of said cell phones.
* We also turn our finger in a twisting motion when we're asking someone to turn volume up or down, despite the fact that most devices now have buttons with up and down arrows on them. Granted, some speakers have dials, and so do many MP3 players, but those are outnumbered by the buttoned devices.
* The use of double-spacing at the end of sentences. This is a hold-over from the days of typewriters with their monospacing (where every character occupies the same amount of space), to help the period stand out. Such a necessity has long been rendered obsolete by digital word-processors and just plain looks silly when used nowadays, but a lot of older typists (or younger ones taught by them), still use two spaces after periods. Even on this very wiki, though [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} That Other Wiki]] and other [=MediaWiki=]-based wikis generally format pages so only one space is displayed even if more than one is typed into the code for the page.
** It's still a handy method for students to pad papers that are to be a certain number of pages long. Two spaces at the end of every sentence adds up.
** And this practice continues to serve its original purpose if something is to be printed in Courier or another typewriter-like font.
** Ever proving the ancient maxim, "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way," The U.S. Department of Defense (which shows up on this page in several places) still uses the "two space" rule in official correspondence, even though the proportional Times New Roman is the mandatory font, and still has instructions like "indent three spaces," which don't make much sense when using proportional fonts.
* Even though ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' switched to an electronic puzzleboard in 1997, people still refer to the letters being "turned" as if they were still physical trilons.
* Creator/BillCosby has an old and hilarious routine about how he wants Polaroid to develop a way to produce a baby quickly. "Kiss your wife, wait five minutes and BOOM -- there's the kid! Of course you have to dip him in the lacquer or he'll fade..."
** A [[http://carnal.orfinlir.de/ third party]] TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons book (not quite SFW) refers to that with the spell "Irnar's Polaroidic Pregnancy" (shortens the pregnancy to 9 hours). The guide isn't quite complete, and the name is yet to be changed.
* "Hi-fi" used to mean a stereo system, and is a bit outdated in these days of MP3 players. (As a term for ''high-fidelity sound'' it is still used by people in the sound industry). This is a bit troublesome tech-wise for people having FunWithPalindromes because "If I had a hi-fi" is still a popular palindrome in books, etc.
* People are often told to cut the doors off refrigerators before throwing them away, to keep playful children from being locked inside and suffocating. However, this only applies to older fridges with latch handles that are impossible to open from the inside. Fridges built since the 80s, however, use magnetic strips to hold the door shut, which can be easily opened from either side.
* In April 2016, the National Weather Service [[http://www.noaa.gov/national-weather-service-will-stop-using-all-caps-its-forecasts announced that they would stop "shouting" at viewers]]. For decades, they transmitted their weather reports using teletype, essentially a typewriter connected to a phone line, which only allowed for all-caps, MEANING THEIR FORECASTS WOULD ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THIS. It worked fine for most of the 20th century, but once the internet took off in the 90's and teletype became obsolete, using all caps implied yelling, especially in forecasts posted to social media. They ''wanted'' to start using mixed cases back then, but unsurprisingly for a government agency, it took them an extra twenty years to completely phase out the old equipment that only accepted teletype.
** This is why the Weather Channel, back when they actually showed weather forecasts, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXyGA8o_Xw looked like this]].
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[[folder:Film]]
* A positive variant is depicted in ''Film/TheMagdaleneSisters'', which the notorious Magdalene Asylums, de facto Irish gulags for women who didn't conform to local religious mores (like [[DefiledForever being raped]]), earned their main income from doing laundry which had to be done by hand in earlier years. Later on, the first washing machines were installed and although the Nuns and their prisoners didn't know it then, the very ubiquity of these relatively inexpensive and obviously practical appliances in personal residences would destroy the economic viability of those prisons.
* In 1981's ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', a monitor displays a 3D wireframe model of [=NYC=] as Snake lands his glider in the city. The filmmakers wanted to use an actual computer model, but since technology wasn't there yet at the budget they had, they compromised by building a physical miniature New York, outlining it with reflective tape, and filming the result. This was the ''budget option''.
* Seen in a 2015 era antique store in ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartII'':
-->'''Antique store saleswoman:''' Now this has an interesting feature -- it has a dust jacket. Books used to have these to protect the covers. Of course that was before they had dust repellent paper. And if you're interested in dust, we have a quaint little piece from the 1980s. It's called a Dustbuster."
** Funnily enough, the Dustbuster continues to enjoy popularity and has even taken on BrandNameTakeover.
** And paper books may be on their way out, dust-proof or otherwise.
* In ''Film/TradingPlaces'', Louis Winthorpe tries to sell his watch at a pawnshop, mentioning how it's waterproof up to 3 atmospheres as proof of how top-of-the-line it is. Today, many watches are waterproof to as many as ''50'' atmospheres.
* In ''Film/TimeBandits'', the embodiment of evil explains that he knows better than the Supreme Being because he has knowledge of "Digital watches. Soon I shall have knowledge of video cassette recorders and car telephones. And when I understand those I shall understand computers. And when I understand computers '''I''' will be the Supreme Being." In 1981, those really were cutting edge and were meant to be. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Now they can be considered evidence that Evil is a little out of touch]].
* ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' was made in 2002, probably at the last possible moment before it'd need a period setting to explain why anyone would need to take pictures somewhere for them to be developed.
* In ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff'', Ferris' line "I asked for a car, I got a computer. How's that for being born under a bad sign?" seems strange today. A typical teen in 1986 wouldn't know what to do with a computer, but every teen in modern times would like his or her own private computer for social messaging, file sharing and [[TheInternetIsForPorn pornography]].
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[[folder:Literature]]
* Appears in the ''Literature/DragonridersOfPern'' series. ''The Skies of Pern'', written in 2001, has cell phone-ish tech cropping into usage. ''All the Weyrs of Pern'' however, written in 1991, essentially has the Dragonriders saving the world by what amounts to handling ships' embedded electronics via console (TakeThat, graphical interface!) because the "real" computers were removed [[RagnarokProofing millenia]] ago. Funny part is that lots of things that are only one notch above PIC but run OS-s used to support telnet terminal access are [[http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/The-Linux-Devices-Showcase/ already here]].
* The original (circa 1980) edition of ''Literature/{{Superfudge}}'' by Creator/JudyBlume had Peter asking for and receiving a pocket calculator for Christmas. Later editions change the gift to a check from Grandma since, by about 2000, a regular calculator was a standard school supply and could be bought for about a dollar. He asks for a stereo in the original, but only in jest. Current editions have him ask instead for a laptop and mp3 player, and by 2010, it's hard to tell whether the latter was supposed to be an outrageous request.
* In the original print of ''Literature/AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'' by Creator/JudyBlume, Margaret is instructed in the proper use of a belt to secure her menstrual pad. The invention of menstrual pads with adhesive backing (something often taken for granted these days) had to wait until women's undergarments became snug enough for adhesive pads to be practical, which in turn required the invention of Spandex and cheaper methods of creating inexpensive fine-gauge cotton knits.
* When Literature/RepairmanJack first appeared in ''The Tomb'', written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.
* The protagonists in Ken Grimwood's ''Literature/{{Replay}}'' are stuck in a 25-year GroundhogDayLoop from 1963 to 1988, so it isn't surprising this pops up. The author had [[ShownTheirWork shown his work]] though, by pointing out that some devices could be procured before they caught on with the public (though they were expensive) there were appearances of the [[http://www.wang1200.org/ Wang 1200]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%22_type_C_videotape Sony VTR]]. The following quote happens in 1974:
-->"Near the window was a large desk stacked with books and notebooks, and in the center of it sat a bulky, greenish-gray device that incorporated a video screen, a keyboard, and a printer. He frowned quizzically at it. What was she doing with a home computer so early? ... 'It's not a computer,' Pamela said. 'Wang 1200 word processor, one of the first. No disk drive, just cassettes, but still beats a typewriter. Want a beer?'"
* The famous quote from ''Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'' that humans are so primitive "they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." Funny in the late '70s, a bit baffling by the early 90s (they had marched on from being impractical high-tech gadgets to a commonplace item nobody would call "neat"), rather on-the-nose now.
** The radio adaptations in the mid-2000s had novelty ringtones instead. Not quite as dated yet.
** Creator/DouglasAdams defended the original line from a copyeditor who wanted to modernise it to cellphones. According to Douglas, digital watches are ''inherently'' ridiculous (in the middle of a period defined by finding visual ways to show information clearly, we took the graphic display we'd had since medieval times and replaced it with a string of numbers, just because we could) in a way that cellphones aren't. As long as humanity continues to believe there's a ''point'' to digital watches, he considered the "pretty neat idea" dig valid.
* In ''Literature/TheSpaceOdysseySeries,'' by the year 3,000 humanity has developed technology to match song lyrics to the EarWorm stuck in your head for you for a fee. Uh... it's called a search engine and it's free.
* An instructor in ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was blinded in combat. Towards the end of his class, he feels the watchface to see how much time is left. Maybe he couldn't afford a talking watch. Soon it's likely to be asking why he didn't get prosthetic eyes.
* An inventor in ''TheDeadPast'' by Creator/IsaacAsimov demonstrates his newest gadget, a time viewer. He turns on the monitor, then warns his impatient colleague to "let it warm up." When the story was written, televisions used vacuum tubes and frequently took 30 seconds to a minute to display a picture after being turned on.
* Creator/JulesVerne's ''Literature/ParisInTheTwentiethCentury'', written in 1862 and taking place in the distant future of 1960, makes some rather impressive predictions about the future. One of the reasons it wasn't published had to do with the publisher finding stuff like electro-mechanical calculators, widespread use of automobiles, fax machines, skyscrapers, automatic security systems and remote-controlled warfare too unrealistic. On the other hand, people still write using quills, records are still kept in books (that is, a colossal book apparently four meters tall, whose pages are turned with machinery) and there is apparently no air transport (except the odd airship or two, probably).
* The iconic intro to ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'', "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel", is somewhat spoiled by the fact that on many modern [=TVs=], the color you see when you turn your TV to a dead channel is ''bright blue''. (In 1984 when the book was written, it would have been an ugly gray static.)
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* {{Game Show}}s: Watch any classic episode of a game show that offers prizes, particularly prior to 1990 (or even 2000), and you'll see electronics and other items that were cutting edge then that are today outdated.
** Examples include the countless '''video cassette recorders''' (first offered circa 1978, when they cost $1,000 or more and were considered a "grand prize"(!)), the '''Muntz projection [=TV=]''' (the "deluxe" style of television viewing, with a (gasp) 3-by-4 foot viewing screen) and the '''large satellite dishes''' (from companies such as General Instruments). '''Cellular car telephones''', which were worth $3,000(!), was a common top-level prize, as were '''portable telephones'''.
*** Several shows also offered an "'''entertainment center'''" – basically a stand with several dividers, which went along with the TV, [=VCR=], audio equipment, connectors and remote control whose components today would be worthless (except for perhaps the audio components, even though there's virtually no market today for cassette tapes and even compact discs are declining in share).
** '''Computers''' are another common example. Take a look at, for instance, a ''Series/TicTacDough'' episode from 1979, when the Apple [=II=] computer was offered as a prize (worth $2,000-plus(!), counting the disk drives, monitor and printer that came with it) ... state of the art for the time with its 64K memory (expandable to double it), and people were truly excited about winning one. Today, it's a museum piece, and even low-end modern computers have several gigabytes of RAM. Commodore, Radio Shack and Texas Instruments also saw their computers given away as game show prizes (with and without the other items), and likewise, except for hobbyists, these computers have long since become obsolete.
*** Speaking of ''Tic Tac Dough'', each of those video screens on the big board were generated by its own Apple [=II=], in stunning 16-color 40x40 lo-res graphics, with the nine Apples networked by an Altair 8800. Compare, at the time, the 1978-79 version of ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', which still used ''printed cards'' on their big board! By 1984, when the Alex Trebek edition of ''Jeopardy!'' debuted, its 30-screen board made ''Tic Tac Dough'''s board look quaint by comparison.
** Years before Skype and other no-cost proprietary voice-over-IP services, there were videophones. At least one episode of the 1980s version of ''Series/HighRollers'', which is uploaded to various video sharing sites, offers '''video phones''' (a $500 item) as a prize; it was touted as state-of-the-art way to see and hear the people you're talking to.
*** However, videophones differ in one key respect from all the other items in this entry in that nobody really wanted them. Video chat systems, the modern equivalent, are nothing like as popular as voice only or text chat.
** Speaking of music devices, one ''Series/SaleOfTheCentury'' shopping-level prize was a $12,000 '''video jukebox'''. Manufactured by Rowe International, users simply deposited their money into the jukebox and chose one of the 100 (or so) selections; after the selection was made, the computer would pick out the appropriate video cassette the song was stored on, cue up the video and play it on the video screen above. This was a giant machine that likely cost a ton to maintain and was only modestly successful. (Rowe had been making video jukeboxes, actually, since the 1960s.) Today, while certainly not cheap, video jukeboxes (such as those made by [=AMI=] Entertainment) are far more compact, using [=WiFi=] to access videos that connect to a nearby TV monitor.
*** Video jukeboxes actually date back to the 1930s. Music videos were called soundies and were played on 16mm film. You could find them in cafes, soda shops, restaurants, bars, train stations and other public places. The Scopitone type lasted well into the 1960s. [[Creator/{{AMC}} American Movie Classics]] used to show interstitial soundies with a bit of historical info provided by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_%22Jazzbo%22_Collins Al "Jazzbo" Collins]]. Website/YouTube has many examples of soundies in b/w and color.
* ''Series/CentralParkWest'' had characters use a very primitive form of email (which had just been introduced into the workplace around the time the series was created), and didn't have any modern functions such as inactivity timeout, password protection or full text editor. A large part of stockbroker Gil Chase's storyline is that several characters (including his ex-girlfriend and a romantic rival) are able to access his email without any password and nearly destroy his reputation by playing havoc with his contacts.
* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'':
** "Double Sting," from the first season, sees Rosco using a large "field telephone" to communicate with Enos. The field telephone was typically used only by law enforcement (and in large cities, more populous counties and state agencies at that) and the very rich in 1979. Today, everyone even in the most backwoods of communities is using cell phones and iPhones, perhaps videophone sites like Skype just like the rest of us.
** "Uncle Boss," taped in 1979 but aired during the third season, sees Boss Hogg's corrupt nephew, Hughie, introduce Boss and Rosco to the state-of-the-art technological marvel ... the video cassette recorder! Quite a bit of time is dedicated to explaining how one of these contraptions work. Although its purpose in the plot is to attempt to frame Bo and Luke for bank robbery (as a security camera is attached to the [=VCR=]), there may have been a subliminal message in it all buy a [=VCR=] and you capture the Dukes on tape ... every week! In any case, the [=VCR=] has long met its match, and banks typically now use hard drives and hidden security cameras to monitor banks. In addition, note that Boss (along with Hughie) hand-deliver the videotape with the incriminating evidence to the [=FBI=] ... but get detoured into a junkyard and are held up briefly by Cooter's magnet(!), which erases the tape; today, Boss could simply send the footage of his "bank robbery" to the [=FBI=] via a private Internet connection (such as file transfer protocol, or ftp, site), making his favorite scheme of hiring impersonators to pull off a "Duke boy bank robbery" even easier to accomplish without Bo and Luke even having a clue what's going on ... until federal authorities converge on the farm with warrants for their arrest.
* ''Series/SesameStreet'': Around the mid-1980s, Oscar the Grouch owned a "grouch computer." The buzzword back then was "friendly computer," which simply meant easy to use; of course, with Oscar involved, the "friendly greetings" were replaced by "grouch" ones. Other Sesame Street residents (notably, Luis and Maria) also owned a computer. All segments with computers were used to teach basic computer skills and workings of computers. And of course, these were computers that were state-of-the-art for the era, at a time when they were far less common.
* In the pilot of ''Series/LoisAndClark'', the Kents' use of a fax machine was presented as evidence they weren't subject to the old-time "American Gothic" farmer stereotypes. Now it has the opposite effect of making them seem out-of-date.
* On ''Series/{{Rescue 911}}'', the prevalence of carbon monoxide poisonings looks weird to modern audiences because carbon monoxide alarms are about as common as fire alarms. Possibly a case of SeinfeldIsUnfunny, as said poisonings were what led to demand for the development of an alarm that would detect carbon monoxide.
* On an older episode of ''Series/LawAndOrder'' Lenny got a lead by looking at the victim's pager. Remember pagers?
** Beepers were parodied in the 2006 series ''Series/ThirtyRock'' via character Dennis Duffy the "Beeper King" who just ''knew'' that they would make a comeback.
* In the original ''Series/{{Carrusel}}'', video games were not present at all. While this was Mexico in 1989-1990, the Brazilian 2012 remake did insert them, since it would no longer be credible to have a show about children's school and daily life without video games present in any way.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', despite having plenty of futuristic {{Magitek}} like giant robots and holographic arcade games, has Cloud owning a "PHS" and using it to contact the other party members. This was a stripped-down Asian cellular phone service aimed at the personal market, which had a reputation for only being used by children or poor people. PHS became obsolete around the time that anyone could get powerful mobile phone coverage for extremely cheap, and few people remember it even in its home market -- in the West, where PHS was never used, it's LostInTranslation.
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* Barely 10 years after the series ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' aired, younger viewers seeing the show the first time would wonder what exactly Helga's father (the "Beeper King" of "Big Bob's Beepers") was selling.
* Cellphones are present in ''WesternAnimation/GodzillaTheSeries'', but the designs are that of the old clam shell style with antennas, having aired from 1998 to 2000.
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11th Mar '17 8:02:48 PM merotoker
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The mobile phone is actually OlderThanYouThink, though, especially in the form of a "car phone." While expensive and limited in many ways, commercially available car phone technology dates back to the late 1940s, often with radio used to contact an operator, who then would patch the call into the regular phone system. An episode of the 1950s TV series ''{{Superman}}'' shows editor Perry White using the MTS radiotelephone in his car to call his office. There are several episodes of ''Franchise/PerryMason'' showing Paul Drake using one.

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The mobile phone is actually OlderThanYouThink, OlderThanTheyThink, though, especially in the form of a "car phone." While expensive and limited in many ways, commercially available car phone technology dates back to the late 1940s, often with radio used to contact an operator, who then would patch the call into the regular phone system. An episode of the 1950s TV series ''{{Superman}}'' shows editor Perry White using the MTS radiotelephone in his car to call his office. There are several episodes of ''Franchise/PerryMason'' showing Paul Drake using one.



** The titular device is an electronic book, a revolutionary idea in 1978. It's a self contained device with only one purpose: to serve as an electronic travel encyclopedia. Ford was researching the new edition. [[Creator/DouglasAdams The author]] anticipated over-the-air downloads, as Ford eventually downloads an update [[spoiler:and finds that the original, longer entry on Earth he wrote exists in the plural sector he was visiting]]. However, today the Guide would be a website on the galactic internet or an app, and the device itself would be something like a smartphone or tablet. Ford would be able to send electronic messages (email, text) after getting stranded, but probably wouldn't get help anyway because most of the people he knows hate him. Even if it was a single electronic book, it wouldn't be as expensive as is hinted[[note]]''Mostly Harmless'' mentions that the publisher is getting frustrated at the fact that the book, which is aimed at hitchhikers who are usually broke vagabonds, aren't able pay enough to cover the cost of operations. So they try to retool it as a toy for rich kids "slumming it".[[/note]]. Real stand-alone electronic books are usually reference books or religious material, made off of the same (obsolete) tech as ''[=PDAs=]''.

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** The titular device is an electronic book, a revolutionary idea in 1978. It's a self contained device with only one purpose: to serve as an electronic travel encyclopedia. Ford was researching the new edition. [[Creator/DouglasAdams The author]] anticipated over-the-air downloads, as Ford eventually downloads an update [[spoiler:and finds that the original, longer entry on Earth he wrote exists in the plural sector he was visiting]]. However, today the Guide would be a website on the galactic internet Internet or an app, and the device itself would be something like a smartphone or tablet. Ford would be able to send electronic messages (email, text) after getting stranded, but probably wouldn't get help anyway because most of the people he knows hate him. Even if it was a single electronic book, it wouldn't be as expensive as is hinted[[note]]''Mostly Harmless'' mentions that the publisher is getting frustrated at the fact that the book, which is aimed at hitchhikers who are usually broke vagabonds, aren't able pay enough to cover the cost of operations. So they try to retool it as a toy for rich kids "slumming it".[[/note]]. Real stand-alone electronic books are usually reference books or religious material, made off of the same (obsolete) tech as ''[=PDAs=]''.



* The cast of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', which ran from 1997 to 2003, would have been saved from many a scrape if they'd just had cellphones. Quite a few episodes use a character being in peril and unable to contact Buffy as a plot device. This wasn't a big deal in the earlier seasons, but the show hit it big just as cellphones were starting to become mainstream, so after a few years it began to seem rather odd, especially since the cast was full of teenagers (later, young adults), the group most likely to carry a cellphone. This was lampshaded at the start of the final season (in September 2002) when Buffy gives her sister Dawn "a weapon" to help protect herself, which turns out to be a cellphone. From then on most of the cast had cellphones - although ironically, they hardly ever needed to use them, since that season also saw every single character move into Buffy's house.
** One episode reveals that Giles ''does'' indeed own a pager, joking that they should page him if the apocalypse happens when he's not around.

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* The cast of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', which ran from 1997 to 2003, would have been saved from many a scrape if they'd just had cellphones. Quite a few episodes use a character being in peril and unable to contact Buffy as a plot device. This wasn't a big deal in the earlier seasons, but the show hit it big just as cellphones were starting to become mainstream, so after a few years it began to seem rather odd, especially since the cast was full of teenagers (later, young adults), the group most likely to carry a cellphone. This was lampshaded at the start of the final season (in September 2002) when Buffy gives her sister Dawn "a weapon" to help protect herself, which turns out to be a cellphone. From then on most of the cast had cellphones - although ironically, they hardly ever needed to use them, since that season also saw every single character move into Buffy's house.
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house. One episode reveals that Giles ''does'' indeed own a pager, joking that they should page him if the apocalypse happens when he's not around.



* Inverted in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', where a new invention has rendered cell phones obsolete, and people no longer need to carry them to all places. This incredible invention of the year 3010? Phone booths!

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''
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Inverted in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', where as a new invention has rendered cell phones obsolete, and people no longer need to carry them to all places. This incredible invention of the year 3010? Phone booths!



* Many people have a similar reaction to children with cell phones, believing them spoiled, not realizing that a phone lets them keep in touch with their parents (and vice versa), call 911 wherever they are, and talk to their friends without tying up the house phone. They're also essentially the modern version of the GameBoy.

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* Many people have a similar reaction to children with cell phones, believing them spoiled, not realizing that a phone lets them keep in touch with their parents (and vice versa), call 911 wherever they are, and talk to their friends without tying up the house phone. They're also essentially the modern version of the GameBoy.UsefulNotes/GameBoy.



* ''{{VideoGame/JoJos Bizarre Adventure Eyes Of Heaven}}'': Jotaro Kujo [[TimeTravel time travels]] from 1989 to 2011 to team up with his KidFromTheFuture, who's dealing with a villain that can steal people's memories with special CD-ROM's. Jotaro...understandably doesn't know what a CD-ROM ''even is'' (even though the CD had already been out for seven years from Jotaro's perspective).

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* ''{{VideoGame/JoJos Bizarre Adventure Eyes Of Heaven}}'': In ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven'' Jotaro Kujo [[TimeTravel time travels]] from 1989 to 2011 to team up with his KidFromTheFuture, who's dealing with a villain that can steal people's memories with special CD-ROM's. Jotaro...understandably doesn't know what a CD-ROM ''even is'' (even though the CD had already been out for seven years from Jotaro's perspective).



* A positive variant is depicted in the film, ''Film/TheMagdaleneSisters'', which the notorious Magdalene Asylums, de facto Irish gulags for women who didn't conform to local religious mores (like [[DefiledForever being raped]]), earned their main income from doing laundry which had to be done by hand in earlier years. Later on, the first washing machines were installed and although the Nuns and their prisoners didn't know it then, the very ubiquity of these relatively inexpensive and obviously practical appliances in personal residences would destroy the economic viability of those prisons.

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* A positive variant is depicted in the film, ''Film/TheMagdaleneSisters'', which the notorious Magdalene Asylums, de facto Irish gulags for women who didn't conform to local religious mores (like [[DefiledForever being raped]]), earned their main income from doing laundry which had to be done by hand in earlier years. Later on, the first washing machines were installed and although the Nuns and their prisoners didn't know it then, the very ubiquity of these relatively inexpensive and obviously practical appliances in personal residences would destroy the economic viability of those prisons.



* ''OneHourPhoto'' was made in 2002, probably at the last possible moment before it'd need a period setting to explain why anyone would need to take pictures somewhere for them to be developed.

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* ''OneHourPhoto'' ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' was made in 2002, probably at the last possible moment before it'd need a period setting to explain why anyone would need to take pictures somewhere for them to be developed.



* When RepairmanJack first appeared in The Tomb, written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.

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* When RepairmanJack Literature/RepairmanJack first appeared in The Tomb, written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.



* An instructor in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' was blinded in combat. Towards the end of his class, he feels the watchface to see how much time is left. Maybe he couldn't afford a talking watch.
** Soon it's likely to be asking why he didn't get prosthetic eyes.

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* An instructor in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was blinded in combat. Towards the end of his class, he feels the watchface to see how much time is left. Maybe he couldn't afford a talking watch.
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watch. Soon it's likely to be asking why he didn't get prosthetic eyes.



* The iconic intro to Literature/{{Neuromancer}}, "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel", is somewhat spoiled by the fact that on many modern TVs, the color you see when you turn your TV to a dead channel is ''bright blue''. (In 1984 when the book was written, it would have been an ugly gray static.)

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* The iconic intro to Literature/{{Neuromancer}}, ''Literature/{{Neuromancer}}'', "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel", is somewhat spoiled by the fact that on many modern TVs, [=TVs=], the color you see when you turn your TV to a dead channel is ''bright blue''. (In 1984 when the book was written, it would have been an ugly gray static.)



** Years before Skype and other no-cost proprietary voice-over-IP services, there were videophones. At least one episode of the 1980s version of ''HighRollers'', which is uploaded to various video sharing sites, offers '''video phones''' (a $500 item) as a prize; it was touted as state-of-the-art way to see and hear the people you're talking to.

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** Years before Skype and other no-cost proprietary voice-over-IP services, there were videophones. At least one episode of the 1980s version of ''HighRollers'', ''Series/HighRollers'', which is uploaded to various video sharing sites, offers '''video phones''' (a $500 item) as a prize; it was touted as state-of-the-art way to see and hear the people you're talking to.



*** Video jukeboxes actually date back to the 1930s. Music videos were called soundies and were played on 16mm film. You could find them in cafes, soda shops, restaurants, bars, train stations and other public places. The Scopitone type lasted well into the 1960s. [[Creator/{{AMC}} American Movie Classics]] used to show interstitial soundies with a bit of historical info provided by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_%22Jazzbo%22_Collins Al "Jazzbo" Collins]]. Youtube has many examples of soundies in b/w and color.

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*** Video jukeboxes actually date back to the 1930s. Music videos were called soundies and were played on 16mm film. You could find them in cafes, soda shops, restaurants, bars, train stations and other public places. The Scopitone type lasted well into the 1960s. [[Creator/{{AMC}} American Movie Classics]] used to show interstitial soundies with a bit of historical info provided by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_%22Jazzbo%22_Collins Al "Jazzbo" Collins]]. Youtube Website/YouTube has many examples of soundies in b/w and color.
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* When RepairmanJack first appeared in The Tomb, written in the early 1980's, Jack had to put in a lot of work to maintain his anonymity but still find customers and stay off the grid. Actually renting an office under an assumed name with nothing in it but a phone and an answering machine, multiple mail boxes under multiple names that he would check for mail daily, always using pay phones, etc. Jump ahead to the present day and he's ditched the office and the answering machine and the mail boxes and just uses a web page with a phone number and email address displayed, buys cheap no-plan phones that he pays cash for and replenishes the minutes with using prepaid credit cards, etc.
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** The reason for this is that most, if not all, people have very private information and items saved on their phones, such as PIN numbers, passwords, photographs, contact lists, etc. Many lawyers advise that during a police encounter, you immediately lock your phone. The police officer cannot take it without a warrant, but it ''can'' be confiscated if you are arrested. If it is not locked, everything on it is available to them, and many corrupt police officers have availed themselves of personal information stored on a confiscated, but unlocked, cell phone. Once locked, do not give them the passcode under any circumstances. Let your lawyer handle any questions they have regarding your phone.
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* ''Series/SeventhHeaven'': Reverend Eric Camden had a pager for the entirety of the series, even when people were ditching those for cell phones. Granted, the Camden family were on a strict budget, so it partially justifies this. It wasn't until the last three seasons where the technology (kind of) was keeping up with the times, but that's not saying much.
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** Creator/DouglasAdams defended the original line from a copyeditor who wanted to modernise it to cellphones. According to Douglas, digital watches are ''inherently'' ridiculous (in the middle of a period defined by finding visual ways to show information clearly, we took the graphic display we'd had since medieval times and replaced it with a string of numbers, just because we could) in a way that cellphones aren't. As long as humanity continues to believe there's a ''point'' to digital watches, he considered the "pretty neat idea" dig valid.
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** They might not actually hear a knock on the door.
10th Feb '17 1:30:30 PM CapnAndy
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** A related problem is that Trantor is stated to be a single, planet-covering city hundreds or thousands of levels deep, and there are special observation towers that you have to use if you want to see the sky. There's absolutely no way that you need that kind of urban structure to house a mere 40 billion people when we have 7 billion on Earth with cities covering only a few per cent of the land surface and most of that you can't travel around in much without going outside. (Yes, there are places where you can travel around significant sections of cities entirely indoors, but you have to do it intentionally and it's both limiting and inconvenient in most places where it's possible at all.) It is admittedly ''possible'' that the billions Asimov referred to are in the long scale, which would make the population several orders of magnitude larger than on the now-usual short scale (the long scale billion is equivalent to a short scale trillion).

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** A related problem is that Trantor is stated to be a single, planet-covering city hundreds or thousands of levels deep, and there are special observation towers that you have to use if you want to see the sky. There's absolutely no way that you need that kind of urban structure to house a mere 40 billion people when we have 7 billion on Earth with cities covering only a few per cent of the land surface and most of that you can't travel around in much without going outside. (Yes, there are places where you can travel around significant sections of cities entirely indoors, but you have to do it intentionally and it's both limiting and inconvenient in most places where it's possible at all.) It Also, if the entire planet is admittedly ''possible'' underground, what exactly is stopping the Trantorians from putting the dirt back on the unused surface and growing their own food?
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that the billions Asimov referred was self-admittedly bad at scale and bad at remembering how many people were supposed to are in the long scale, which would make the live on Trantor, causing its population several orders of magnitude larger than to vary from 40 billions to 4 trillions, depending on the now-usual short scale (the long scale billion is equivalent to a short scale trillion).book.
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* In the short story "Graveyard Shift" (contained in Crator/StephenKing's ''Literature/NightShift'' collection), King illustrates the large size of a rat by writing that it had a tail "as thick as a telephone cord." The phrase was written in 1969-70, when the cord that connected a phone to a wall outlet was about the thickness of a telephone ''cable''. Today's readers are likely to say either "So what?" (as the cord that plugs a phone into a wall is considerably thinner) or "A 'telephone whaaaa'?"

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* In the short story "Graveyard Shift" (contained in Crator/StephenKing's ''Literature/NightShift'' collection), King illustrates the large size of a rat by writing that it had a tail "as thick as a telephone cord." The phrase was written in 1969-70, when the cord that connected a phone to a wall outlet was about the thickness of a telephone ''cable''. Today's readers are likely to say either "So what?" (as the cord that plugs a modern phone into a wall is considerably thinner) thinner, close to the thickness of an ordinary rat's tail) or "A 'telephone whaaaa'?"
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