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23rd Sep '16 5:34:33 AM MadSpy
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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys), because those were all they had. The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.

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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys), because those were all they had. The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops life MultipurposeMonoculturedCrop were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.
23rd Sep '16 5:33:42 AM MadSpy
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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys), because those were all they had. The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live {{MultipurposeMonoculturedCrop}}s were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.

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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys), because those were all they had. The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live {{MultipurposeMonoculturedCrop}}s MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.
20th Sep '16 10:12:49 PM PaulA
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* Creator/JackChalker's Literature/WellWorld series name-checks this trope. "[Each hex on the planet] is also maintained at a given technological level.... Anything beyond it just won't work, like Hain's pistol yesterday."
24th Jul '16 6:14:18 PM nombretomado
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* Averted by the Shee of ''{{Creatures}}.'' Both said aversion and the Shee's [[AbsentMindedProfessor general]] [[CloudCuckooLander mindset]] are best explained by a quote:

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* Averted by the Shee of ''{{Creatures}}.''VideoGame/{{Creatures}}.'' Both said aversion and the Shee's [[AbsentMindedProfessor general]] [[CloudCuckooLander mindset]] are best explained by a quote:
24th Jul '16 12:55:58 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Diggles}}'', the first buildings are made from wood and stones, then require sturdier materials like metal, then require mechanical energy, and in the last stages the power source of choice is a pseudo-nuclear reactor.

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* In ''{{Diggles}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Diggles}}'', the first buildings are made from wood and stones, then require sturdier materials like metal, then require mechanical energy, and in the last stages the power source of choice is a pseudo-nuclear reactor.
21st May '16 11:08:14 AM zarpaulus
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* Generally averted by the card-based system of research in ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' but primitive species are categorized by technological development ranging from Stone Age to Early Space Age, the relevant distinctions to players being the time required for TechnologyUplift.



* OrionsArm carefully lays out post-{{Singularity}} tech levels based around the relative intelligence levels of ever more complex transhuman and AI minds. Pre-Singularity humans can at best make basic nanotech and antimatter drives. At S1 BrainUploading and matter-to-energy conversion drives become possible. S3 minds can create Wormholes, and S4 or higher can produce {{Reactionless Drive}}s.

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* OrionsArm ''WebOriginal/OrionsArm'' carefully lays out post-{{Singularity}} tech levels based around the relative intelligence levels of ever more complex transhuman and AI minds. Pre-Singularity humans can at best make basic nanotech and antimatter drives. At S1 BrainUploading and matter-to-energy conversion drives become possible. S3 minds can create Wormholes, and S4 or higher can produce {{Reactionless Drive}}s.
17th May '16 8:15:48 PM Fireblood
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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys). The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.

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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys).turkeys), because those were all they had. The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops {{MultipurposeMonoculturedCrop}}s were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.
15th May '16 3:18:50 AM Morgenthaler
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-->-- '''Chairman Shen-Ji Yang''', ''[[SidMeiersAlphaCentauri "Looking God in the Eye"]]''

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-->-- '''Chairman Shen-Ji Yang''', ''[[SidMeiersAlphaCentauri ''[[VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri "Looking God in the Eye"]]''
11th May '16 2:46:04 PM Jhonny
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* Farming and domesticated animals are often brought up together as if they presuppose one another or "naturally" arise together. As a matter of fact, they don't. The dog was domesticated long before any crops were and societies in Oceania and the Americas had domesticated a wide variety of crops and only a handful of animals if that (llamas, guinea pigs and sorta-kinda turkeys). The fact that the old world contained so many domesticable animals caused many diseases to jump from humans to animals and back in the old world but not the new world. The result when Europeans happened upon the Americas was devastating and not entirely understood until the 20th century. On the other hand some of the real live MultipurposeMonoculturedCrops were first domesticated in the Americas, above all corn (maize) and potatoes. And even today there are societies with animal herding but hardly any farming and vice versa.
11th May '16 3:27:21 AM alspawn
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*** The Ferengi also have a similar idea of cultural development, but it is based on the complexity of economic systems rather than technology.


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* Averted by ''Series/{{Fringe}}''. Much of the first two seasons is dominated by how advanced the technology of the AlternateUniverse is, but when we finally see that dimension we also see that a lot of things we consider modern (like airplanes and vaccines) would be considered sci-fi there.
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