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17th Apr '18 3:56:39 PM XFllo
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* ''Literature/{{Emma}}'': Emma Woodhouse plays the piano rather well, but she didn't practise enough as a child to reach true mastery. Jane Fairfax is as old as Emma, and just as talented in music as she is, but Jane has deeper love for music and she has been a dilligent student and plays perfectly. Emma is a skilled performer, but Jane is ''both'' a technician ''and'' a performer. Though some people do not see it...

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* ''Literature/{{Emma}}'': Emma Woodhouse plays the piano rather well, but she didn't practise enough as a child to reach true mastery. Jane Fairfax is as old as Emma, and just as talented in music as she is, but Jane has a deeper love for music and she has been a dilligent diligent student and plays perfectly. Emma is a skilled performer, but Jane is ''both'' a technician ''and'' a performer. Though some people do not see it...
9th Apr '18 8:56:35 PM mlsmithca
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* Music/TheWho was all over the map. Pete Townsend's songwriting and guitar playing are mostly on the technical side, although he can still cut loose when playing live. Roger Daltry is definitely a performer, continuing to draw crowds even after his once-mighty singing voice has weakened with age. John Entwistle was a technician through and through - in live shows he'd hardly even move, but his rock-solid bass playing was a reliable backbone the others could lean on. And whether Keith Moon was an exuberant-but-precise drummer or a crowd-pleasing rock animal depended on how many drugs he happened to be using at the time.

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* Music/TheWho was all over the map. Pete Townsend's Townshend's songwriting and guitar playing are mostly on the technical side, although he can still cut loose when playing live. Roger Daltry Daltrey is definitely a performer, continuing to draw crowds even after his once-mighty singing voice has weakened with age. John Entwistle was a technician through and through - in live shows he'd hardly even move, but his rock-solid bass playing was a reliable backbone the others could lean on. And whether Keith Moon was an exuberant-but-precise drummer or a crowd-pleasing rock animal depended on how many drugs he happened to be using at the time.
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9th Apr '18 8:51:50 PM easytorememberhandle
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* Music/TheWho was all over the map. Pete Townsend's songwriting and guitar playing are mostly on the technical side, although he can still cut loose when playing live. Roger Daltry is definitely a performer, continuing to draw crowds even after his once-mighty singing voice has weakened with age. John Entwistle was a technician through and through - in live shows he'd hardly even move, but his rock-solid bass playing was a reliable backbone the others could lean on. And whether Keith Moon was an exuberant-but-precise drummer or a crowd-pleasing rock animal depended on how many drugs he happened to be using at the time.

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9th Apr '18 7:45:17 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Robb Stark's leadership of the rebel forces against Tywin Lannister's leadership of the royalist forces, essentially. Lord Tywin is a good soldier and strategist due to hard and careful work, while Robb is a born conqueror. Ultimately, Tywin's exploitation of the strategic imbalance between the Iron Throne and the Stark kingdom, plus Robb's personal missteps, proves decisive in the Riverlands theater. Robb, on the other hand, bet the whole war on winning enough battles.

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Robb Stark's leadership of the rebel forces against Tywin Lannister's leadership of the royalist forces, essentially. Lord Tywin is a good soldier and strategist due to hard and careful work, while Robb is a born conqueror. Ultimately, Tywin's exploitation of the strategic imbalance between the Iron Throne and the Stark kingdom, plus Robb's personal missteps, proves decisive in the Riverlands theater. Robb, on the other hand, bet the whole war on winning enough battles.battles.
** In terms of her linguistic skills, Missandei and Dany have this dynamic. The latter, being naturally quite boastful and self-absorbed (albeit endearingly so to Missandei), is quite proud of her mastery of Dothraki, Valyrian, and Common Tongue, but Missandei has a better technical grasp of those languages (since it is after all her main skillset). As such she latches on to linguistic subtleties like the gender-neutral nature of Valyrian which Dany missed since she mostly uses the language to communicate without attention to grammatical exactitude.
7th Apr '18 11:11:45 AM Malady
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* The music game GitarooMan features this in the final guitar battle with the hero U1 versus the villain Zowie, even in the first few bars. Zowie opens with a bunch of rapid fire notes, but it sounds harsh and atonal. U1 (and thus the player) responds with one crystal clear reverberating note, showing his intends to win the duel with melody versus skill.

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* The music game GitarooMan ''VideoGame/GitarooMan'' features this in the final guitar battle with the hero U1 versus the villain Zowie, even in the first few bars. Zowie opens with a bunch of rapid fire notes, but it sounds harsh and atonal. U1 (and thus the player) responds with one crystal clear reverberating note, showing his intends to win the duel with melody versus skill.
6th Apr '18 8:20:29 PM Oecchi
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** Victor, the in-universe star of the ice, is best know for being a Performer -- in and out of the rink. He's a showman, he flirts with the cameras, and his routines are clearly designed to tell a story. His priority is entertainment, and when he worries that he has nothing new to bring to his performances, he's ready to give it up. However, his speech about how skating consumed his life so that there was no room for anything else, added to the fact that you can't get as good as Victor is without putting the work in, suggest strong Technician skills too.
** Yuri P is a Technician when being kept on a leash by Yakov and Lilia, but seems to be a more natural Performer. His coaches spend hours on technical elements and hammering out imperfections. However, the Agape routine (choreographed and initially coached by Victor) had emotion rather than technical skill at its heart, and ''that'' is the routine he [[spoiler:sets a world record]] with. By contrast, his free skate is technically demanding to the point of being nightmarish, but doesn't inspire the same level of emotional intensity in Yuri. When he gets his own way in his self-choreographed exhibition skate, he's purely focused on putting on a show, although his technical skill is still present.

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** Victor, the in-universe star of the ice, is best know for being a Performer -- in and out of the rink. He's a showman, he flirts with the cameras, and his routines programs are clearly designed to tell a story. His priority is entertainment, and when he worries that he has nothing new to bring to his performances, he's ready to give it up. However, his speech about how skating consumed his life so that there was no room for anything else, added to the fact that you can't get as good as Victor is without putting the work in, suggest strong Technician skills too.
** Yuri P "Yurio" Plisetsky is a Technician when being kept on a leash by Yakov and Lilia, but seems to be a more natural Performer. His coaches spend hours on technical elements and hammering out imperfections. However, the Agape routine program (choreographed and initially coached by Victor) had emotion rather than technical skill at its heart, and ''that'' is the routine he [[spoiler:sets a world record]] with. By contrast, his free skate is technically demanding to the point of being nightmarish, but doesn't inspire the same level of emotional intensity in Yuri. Yurio. When he gets his own way in his self-choreographed exhibition skate, he's purely focused on putting on a show, although his technical skill is still present. present.
** Other skaters in the story are presented on a sliding scale between Technician and Performer; Phichit Chulanont's ultimate goal is to put on an ice show to show the world how fun skating is, and Yuri calls him "a born entertainer", while Seung-gil Lee is entirely fixated on the technical aspect of figure skating and is constantly calculating his score as he performs.
6th Apr '18 8:16:01 PM Oecchi
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** Yuri Katsuki's ballet teacher, Minako, tells his new coach/love interest Victor that Yuri is no genius, and that his skill and success are down to constant practice and the luxury of having a nearby ice rink that was willing to let him practice alone. Yuri himself echoes this sentiment. This would seem to put Yuri firmly in Technician territory...but the narrative strongly suggests that Minako is simply ''wrong:'' Yuri ''does'' have natural talent and very strong Performer elements. Victor picks up on this immediately, telling Yuri that his ability to "make music with his body" is what immediately drew Victor to him (well, that and the [[spoiler:drunken pole-dancing antics]]). Yuri Plisetsky too, remembers Yuri K for his elegant step sequences. In fact, it's ''technical'' skills (especially the jumps) that are the bane of Yuri's life, while his ''performance'' elements boost his score.

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** Yuri Katsuki's ballet teacher, Minako, tells his new coach/love interest Victor that Yuri is no genius, and that his skill and success are down to constant practice and the luxury of having a nearby ice rink that was willing to let him practice alone. Yuri himself echoes this sentiment. This would seem to put Yuri firmly in Technician territory...but the narrative strongly suggests that Minako is simply ''wrong:'' Yuri ''does'' have natural talent and very strong Performer elements. Victor picks up on this immediately, telling Yuri that his ability to "make music with his body" is what immediately drew Victor to him (well, that and the [[spoiler:drunken pole-dancing antics]]). Yuri Plisetsky too, remembers Yuri K for his elegant step sequences. In fact, it's ''technical'' skills (especially the jumps) that are the bane of Yuri's life, while his ''performance'' elements boost his score.
6th Apr '18 8:14:40 PM Oecchi
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** Yuri Katsuki's best friend, Yuko, tells his new coach/love interest Victor that Yuri is no genius, and that his skill and success are down to constant practice and the luxury of having a nearby ice rink that was willing to let him practice alone. Yuri himself echoes this sentiment. This would seem to put Yuri firmly in Technician territory...but the narrative strongly suggests that Yuko is simply ''wrong:'' Yuri ''does'' have natural talent and very strong Performer elements. Victor picks up on this immediately, telling Yuri that his ability to "make music with his body" is what immediately drew Victor to him (well, that and the [[spoiler:drunken pole-dancing antics]]). Yuri Plisetsky too, remembers Yuri K for his elegant step sequences. In fact, it's ''technical'' skills (especially the jumps) that are the bane of Yuri's life, while his ''performance'' elements boost his score.

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** Yuri Katsuki's best friend, Yuko, ballet teacher, Minako, tells his new coach/love interest Victor that Yuri is no genius, and that his skill and success are down to constant practice and the luxury of having a nearby ice rink that was willing to let him practice alone. Yuri himself echoes this sentiment. This would seem to put Yuri firmly in Technician territory...but the narrative strongly suggests that Yuko Minako is simply ''wrong:'' Yuri ''does'' have natural talent and very strong Performer elements. Victor picks up on this immediately, telling Yuri that his ability to "make music with his body" is what immediately drew Victor to him (well, that and the [[spoiler:drunken pole-dancing antics]]). Yuri Plisetsky too, remembers Yuri K for his elegant step sequences. In fact, it's ''technical'' skills (especially the jumps) that are the bane of Yuri's life, while his ''performance'' elements boost his score.
2nd Apr '18 4:50:23 AM fearlessnikki
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* ''Film/BlackSwan'' uses this trope to illustrate the differences in the dancing of the two main characters. Nina is technically flawless, but she's cold, controlled and distant, which makes her an excellent White Swan and a bad Black Swan. Meanwhile, Lily dances more instinctively, lacking the technical chops but letting her warm and sensuous personality come through. This makes her an excellent Black Swan but a sub-par White Swan. The ballet director is torn because he would prefer to cast one dancer as both roles.

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* ''Film/BlackSwan'' uses this trope to illustrate the differences in the dancing of the two main characters. Nina is technically flawless, but she's cold, controlled and distant, which makes her an excellent White Swan and a bad Black Swan. Meanwhile, Lily dances more instinctively, lacking the technical chops but letting her warm and sensuous personality come through. This makes her an excellent Black Swan but a sub-par White Swan. The ballet director is torn because he would prefer to cast one dancer as both roles. In this case the narrative favours Nina as the Technician - as Thomas tries to get her to learn to loosen up so she can play the Black Swan.



** Played with a bit, where it's mentioned at one point that the sister who hates dancing ends up being one of the most technically proficient dancers in the school ''because'' she hates dancing, so she ends up taking basic classes year after year and gets all the core moves completely ground into her mind. But her performer sisters are the ones who always get major roles in ballets and plays, while she's always (gladly) stuck in the background. Although in this case her sisters aren't ''bad'' at technique they just never learn it by rote the way she does (and when one of them does end up stuck in that same situation, her performer side comes out more strongly than it does at any other time in the book).

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** Played with a bit, where it's mentioned at one point that Petrova the sister who hates dancing ends up being one of the most technically proficient dancers in the school ''because'' she hates dancing, so she ends up taking basic classes year after year and gets all the core moves completely ground into her mind. But her performer sisters are the ones who always get major roles in ballets and plays, while she's always (gladly) stuck in the background. Although in this case her sisters aren't ''bad'' at technique they just never learn it by rote the way she does (and when one of them does end up stuck in that same situation, her performer side comes out more strongly than it does at any other time in the book).


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* Wrestling/CelticChampionshipWrestling put [[Wrestling/DarrenBurns Xavier Burns]] - a tactical heel - versus Ricky Combat - a brawling babyface. Out of universe however it was the other way around - with Xavier having the over-the-top character and Ricky being an expert in WrestlingPsychology.
30th Mar '18 8:04:50 PM MadCormorant
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** You could potentially breakdown the entire history of hip-hop by noting the prominent Performer/Technician dichotomies of the day, even the ones that didn't result in outright verbal sparring:

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** You could potentially breakdown break down the entire history of hip-hop by noting the prominent Performer/Technician dichotomies of the day, even the ones that didn't result in outright verbal sparring:



*** Late 90's/Early 2000's Jay-Z (Performer with great technical ability) vs. Nas (Technician)

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*** Late 90's/Early 2000's Jay-Z (Performer with great technical ability) vs. Nas (Technician)(Technician with spurts of performer-like passion)
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