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17th Feb '18 1:11:01 PM nighttrainfm
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** The Doctor's level of pacifism varies by the series and incarnation, but he has become increasingly a Technical Pacifist. Although he often kills the MonsterOfTheWeek and at times even wipes whole races out, he insists on always giving them a chance to stop their destructive ways, even if it means possibly sacrificing himself in the attempt. The Doctor also has a vicious streak in him that occasionally comes out when he's angry, which can be scary enough that some enemies who have pushed him that far have wished they were dead instead of [[FateWorseThanDeath what he did to them]]. He's ashamed of this part of himself and relies on his companions to keep him in check. The Doctor also DoesntLikeGuns, though on rare occasions he's seen carrying them for various reasons, and in some versions is a crack shot.
** Lampshaded in "The Doctor's Daughter", where his distaste for [[spoiler: his clone "daughter" Jenny]] being a soldier is rebuked by the fact that ''he'' was a soldier, in the Time War, and has killed numerous beings and even whole races, both personally and by manipulation.
*** Lampshaded the same way in "The Caretaker", where The Doctor refuses to believe that [[spoiler: Clara and Danny could be together]] because Danny was a soldier. Perhaps even worse as Danny has now moved on and is a teacher, while the Doctor still kills people regularly. Danny points out the Doctor isn't a soldier at all, he's something far worse: an ''officer''. He mostly keeps his hands clean because he gets others to do the dirty work.

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** The Doctor's level of pacifism varies by the series and incarnation, but he has they've become increasingly a Technical Pacifist. Although he they often kills kill the MonsterOfTheWeek and at times even wipes have wiped whole races out, he insists out on occasion, they always insist on giving them a chance to stop their destructive ways, even if it means possibly sacrificing himself themself in the attempt. The Doctor also has a vicious streak in him that occasionally comes out when he's they're angry, which can be scary enough that some enemies who have pushed him them that far have wished they were dead instead of [[FateWorseThanDeath what he did happened to them]]. He's ashamed The Doctor isn't proud of this part of himself and relies on his behaviour, which is where [[MoralityChain the companions to keep him in check. come in.]] The Doctor also DoesntLikeGuns, though on rare occasions he's they're seen carrying them for various reasons, and in some versions is a crack shot.
** Lampshaded in "The Doctor's Daughter", where his Ten's distaste for [[spoiler: his clone "daughter" Jenny]] being a soldier is rebuked by the fact that ''he'' was a soldier, in the Time War, and has killed numerous beings and even whole races, both personally and by manipulation.
*** Lampshaded the same way in "The Caretaker", where The the Twelfth Doctor refuses to believe that [[spoiler: Clara and Danny could be together]] because Danny was a soldier. Perhaps even worse as Danny has now moved on and is a teacher, while the Doctor still kills people regularly. Danny points out the Doctor isn't a soldier at all, he's something far worse: an ''officer''. He mostly keeps his hands clean because he gets others to do the dirty work.
7th Feb '18 12:10:35 PM doomquokka
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* Decoy Octopus from ''Webcomic/TheLastDaysOfFoxHound'' has never actually killed a single person, and doesn't even know how to use a gun. It's discussed when he's forced to "face the souls of every man he's killed" by The Sorrow and, upon finding themselves in an empty limbo, points out that being a master of disguise means subtlety and ''avoiding'' confrontation are his thing. However, he has acknowledged that just by associating with the likes of Psycho Mantis and Revolver Ocelot, he is technically complacent in mass murder.

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* Decoy Octopus from ''Webcomic/TheLastDaysOfFoxHound'' has never actually killed a single person, and doesn't even know how to use a gun. It's discussed when he's forced to "face the souls of every man he's killed" by The Sorrow and, upon finding themselves in an empty limbo, points out that being a master of disguise means subtlety and ''avoiding'' confrontation are his thing. However, he has acknowledged that just by associating with the likes of Psycho Mantis and Revolver Ocelot, he is technically complacent complicit in mass murder.
4th Feb '18 7:11:16 AM KenMoreau
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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg Peace Forcer Elite]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (Elites are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapons system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].

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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg Peace Forcer PeaceForcer Elite]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (Elites are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapons system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].Heaven]]. Trent truly regrets every one of those deaths.
4th Feb '18 7:10:05 AM KenMoreau
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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg PeaceForcer Elite]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (Elites are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapon's system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].

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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg PeaceForcer Peace Forcer Elite]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (Elites are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapon's weapons system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].
4th Feb '18 7:08:46 AM KenMoreau
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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg PeaceForcer]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (PeaceForcer's are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapon's system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].

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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg PeaceForcer]] PeaceForcer Elite]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (PeaceForcer's (Elites are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapon's system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].
4th Feb '18 7:07:18 AM KenMoreau
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* In ''Creator/DanielKeysMoran'''s "Tales of the Continuing Time", Trent frequently tells everyone around him "Killing people is wrong". He is a big user of [[Main/InstantSedation FadeAway]], using it in squirt guns, automated defense systems and in a fire suppression system where it took out a room full of people. But he has been responsible for numerous deaths, including one [[Main/Cyborg PeaceForcer]] who tried to swim after him but drowned (PeaceForcer's are very heavy and don't swim well), and an unknown number of people when his opponent didn't believe that Trent had boobytrapped the weapon's system on [[Main/SpaceStation PeaceForcer Heaven]].
1st Feb '18 8:46:48 PM mouschilight
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* Goku in the original ''Manga/DragonBall'' was actually a subversion having killed a whole laundry list of men despite being a naive and [[IncorruptiblePurePureness pure hearted]] [[EnfantTerrible child]], his kill-list includes: Grandpa Gohan (by accident) Buyon, Captain Yellow, Ninja Murasaki, Staff Officer Black, Tambourine (in revenge for Krillin, Drum and King Piccolo. Mercenary Tao was the first real major villain Goku showed mercy to, and the second Goku turned his back Tao [[DirtyCoward tried]] to obliterate him with a grenade but Goku [[CatchandReturn kicked it straight back]].
*** Though Tao survived as {{Cyborg}}.
** At the end of Dragon Ball Goku had real [[CharacterDevelopment development]] refusing to kill Piccolo Jr giving him a [[LastSecondChance a second chance]] as his [[TheRival rival]]. Goku's pacifist tendencies continue in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', where he shows mercy to all antagonists usually because of his [[BloodKnight desire]] to fight them again some other day or let them power up and subsequently give a better fight. At other times Goku simply refuses hurt foes when they're [[KickTheDog already down]], and called out Vegeta when he mercilessly butchered the [[QuirkyMiniBossSquad Ginyu Force]].
** Goku is however directly responsible for at least the deaths of only two villains: Yakon, who blew up after gorging himself on too much of Goku's energy, and Buu, the series' final BigBad. And he even wished for Buu to reincarnate as a good being. [[spoiler:And he does, though it's more of a cameo barring the anime-only ''Anime/DragonBallGT''.]]
*** Movie villains aren't so lucky: Ginger, Nicky Dr Wheelo, Turles, Lord Slug, Cooler ([[OverarchingVillain twice]]), Android 13, Broly (twice), Janemba, Hirudegarn and Frieza met their at Goku's hands.
** In Anime/DragonBallSuper Goku kills the [[BackFromTheDead resurrected]] Frieza justified since Frieza was literally just about blow up the planet as result of Vegeta not killing him fast enough.

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* Goku in the original ''Manga/DragonBall'' was actually a subversion having killed a whole laundry list becomes an example of men despite being a naive this after his CharacterDevelopment. While he loves fighting and [[IncorruptiblePurePureness pure hearted]] [[EnfantTerrible child]], his kill-list includes: Grandpa Gohan (by accident) Buyon, Captain Yellow, Ninja Murasaki, Staff Officer Black, Tambourine (in revenge for Krillin, Drum and King Piccolo. Mercenary Tao was the first real major villain Goku showed mercy to, and the second Goku turned his back Tao [[DirtyCoward tried]] training to obliterate him with a grenade but Goku [[CatchandReturn kicked it straight back]].
*** Though Tao survived as {{Cyborg}}.
** At the end of Dragon Ball Goku had real [[CharacterDevelopment development]] refusing to
become stronger, he doesn't kill Piccolo Jr his opponent if he can help it, giving him a [[LastSecondChance a second chance]] as even his [[TheRival rival]]. Goku's pacifist tendencies continue in worst enemies a LastSecondChance. Throughout ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', where he shows mercy to all antagonists usually because of his [[BloodKnight desire]] to fight them again some other day or let them power up and subsequently give a better fight. At other times Goku simply refuses hurt foes when they're [[KickTheDog already down]], and called out Vegeta when he mercilessly butchered the [[QuirkyMiniBossSquad Ginyu Force]].
** Goku
is however directly responsible for at least the deaths of only two villains: Yakon, who blew up after gorging himself on too much of Goku's energy, and Buu, the series' final BigBad. And he He even wished for Buu to reincarnate as a good being. [[spoiler:And And he does, though it's more of a cameo barring the anime-only ''Anime/DragonBallGT''.]]
*** Movie villains aren't so lucky: Ginger, Nicky Dr Wheelo, Turles, Lord Slug, Cooler ([[OverarchingVillain twice]]), Android 13, Broly (twice), Janemba, Hirudegarn and Frieza met their at Goku's hands.
** In Anime/DragonBallSuper Goku kills the [[BackFromTheDead resurrected]] Frieza justified since Frieza was literally just about blow up the planet as result of Vegeta not killing him fast enough.
1st Feb '18 6:24:21 PM foxley
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* ''Series/MacGyver'', obviously. Vocally and obviously [[DoesntLikeGuns hates guns]], but isn't averse to hitting people (with fists, or with a variety of heavy things), and for a "pacifist", he's awfully fond of creating explosives...granted, given the show's style, there also wasn't a lot of obviously fatal collateral damage to all the homemade bombs he set off.

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* ''Series/MacGyver'', ''Series/MacGyver1985'', obviously. Vocally and obviously [[DoesntLikeGuns hates guns]], but isn't averse to hitting people (with fists, or with a variety of heavy things), and for a "pacifist", he's awfully fond of creating explosives...granted, given the show's style, there also wasn't a lot of obviously fatal collateral damage to all the homemade bombs he set off.
22nd Jan '18 11:52:58 AM lillolillo
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--> "I am a pacifist," White objected.
--> "Wha? Tell that to my bruises!" Jade shouted, pulling up her shirt to show her blue belly.
--> "Okay, they don't show up well since I'm blue, but trust me they're forming," Jade explained.
--> "I harm nothing, it is the objects you collide with that harm you," White enlightened her before flinging her away again.

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--> "I am a pacifist," White objected.
-->
objected.\\
"Wha? Tell that to my bruises!" Jade shouted, pulling up her shirt to show her blue belly.
-->
belly.\\
"Okay, they don't show up well since I'm blue, but trust me they're forming," Jade explained.
-->
explained.\\
"I harm nothing, it is the objects you collide with that harm you," White enlightened her before flinging her away again.



* Saito in ''Fanfic/StupidDevilDog'' doesn't take killing lightly. He has no qualms about using guns hell, he lugs ''three'' of them around all the time , but he does his best to avoid using lethal force.
* In ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' crossover ''Fanfic/TheVampireOfSteel'', the Girl of Steel provides assistance to the Scooby Gang to deal with a Kryptonian vampire. Kara doesn't want to kill him, but at the end she is forced to admit Zol-Am's too dangerous to live and borrows their friends anti-Kryptonian tools. Prior to that adventure, she stepped aside when Buffy slew several vampires.

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* Saito in ''Fanfic/StupidDevilDog'' doesn't take killing lightly. He has no qualms about using guns hell, he lugs ''three'' of them around all the time , but he does his best to avoid using lethal force.
* In ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' crossover ''Fanfic/TheVampireOfSteel'', the Girl of Steel provides assistance to the Scooby Gang to deal with a Kryptonian vampire. Kara doesn't want to kill him, but at the end she is forced to admit agree Zol-Am's too dangerous to live and borrows their friends lends anti-Kryptonian tools.tools to her friends. Prior to that adventure, she stepped aside when Buffy slew several vampires.
22nd Jan '18 11:44:57 AM lillolillo
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** Which is all a mask for the real reason; Bruce's parents were killed by a gunman, leading his philosophy against lethal force. Obviously they can't tell the world that, but still. However, this rule does not seem to extend to anything that's not human. In an issue of ComicBook/SupermanBatman, you see him standing side-by-side with the Amazons wielding a frickin' BATTLEAXE, which he proceeds to bury in the bodies of numerous clones of Doomsday. His justification? They were never alive to begin with.
** Cassandra Cain ([[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Batgirl III]]). By being able to read body language as a first language means that killing a man makes her feel the horror of the other person's death, thus she doesn't kill.
* {{Franchise/Superman}} of the DCU. Considering how greatly he out levels most of his opponents, yet adheres to a strict [[ThouShallNotKill no kill]] code, most of his battles involve him lightly batting around opponents until they surrender. Even then, he goes out of his way to talk to his opponents before violence breaks out. He also ensures that no severe harm is endured by all but the very most evil of his foes.
** In fact, most of the action in a Superman comic involve Superman simply getting in the way of the attempted kill strikes of villains who want to cause death and destruction for their own purposes. Only villains who really ''are'' as strong as Superman (or have a plan to attack him that doesn't involve physical force) typically exchange blows in a standard duke 'em out fashion. In fact, when one alien travelled to earth to battle Superman in order to prove his badassery, Supes allowed him to soundly kick his ass so that the alien would leave Earth alone after he finished gloating.

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** Which is all a mask for the real reason; Bruce's parents were killed by a gunman, leading his philosophy against lethal force. Obviously they can't tell the world that, but still. However, this rule does not seem to extend to anything that's not human. In an issue of ComicBook/SupermanBatman, ''ComicBook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'', you see him standing side-by-side with the Amazons wielding a frickin' BATTLEAXE, which he proceeds to bury in the bodies of numerous clones of Doomsday. His justification? They were never alive to begin with.
** Cassandra Cain ([[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} ([[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Batgirl III]]). By being able to read body language as a first language means that killing a man makes her feel the horror of the other person's death, thus she doesn't kill.
* {{Franchise/Superman}} of the DCU. Considering how greatly he out levels most of his opponents, yet adheres ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' is more proactive and more hot-tempered than her cousin, and is willing to a strict [[ThouShallNotKill no kill]] code, most of his battles involve him lightly batting around opponents until they surrender. Even then, he goes out of his way try to talk and reform criminals and villains... even if she has to his opponents before violence breaks out. He also ensures that no severe harm is endured by all but the very most evil of his foes.
** In fact, most of the action in a Superman comic involve Superman simply getting in the way of the
beat them up first. Nonetheless, she attempted to kill strikes of villains who want to cause death the [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Anti-Monitor]] because was too dangerous, and destruction for their own purposes. Only villains who really ''are'' as strong as Superman (or have a plan to attack him [[ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton she threw Worldkiller-1 into the Sun]] reasoning that an artificially-engineered murderous symbiotic parasite doesn't involve physical force) typically exchange blows in a standard duke 'em out fashion. In fact, when one alien travelled to earth to battle Superman in order to prove his badassery, Supes allowed him to soundly kick his ass so that count as "living being".
-->'''Supergirl:''' I know who I am, and I know what you are A mockery of life. This is not murder. It is
the alien would leave Earth alone after he finished gloating.end of a terrible mistake.
* Franchise/{{Superman}} abides by a "No killing" code, but he's forced to kill sometimes.



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* In the ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures fic ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jackie, like his canon counterpart, counts as this. Also, when Jade is fighting Brother Light, he repeatedly throws her through the walls and down the hill (and at one point, through the roof), and when Jade complains during this he says he is a pacifist:

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* In ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' fanfic ''Fanfic/AForceOfFour'', the heroes have managed to subdue the four villains. An [[Franchise/WonderWoman Amazon]] suggests to kill them off, but Queen Hippolyta wants to exhaust all other options first.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fic ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jackie, like his canon counterpart, counts as this. Also, when Jade is fighting Brother Light, he repeatedly throws her through the walls and down the hill (and at one point, through the roof), and when Jade complains during this he says he is a pacifist:


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* In ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' crossover ''Fanfic/TheVampireOfSteel'', the Girl of Steel provides assistance to the Scooby Gang to deal with a Kryptonian vampire. Kara doesn't want to kill him, but at the end she is forced to admit Zol-Am's too dangerous to live and borrows their friends anti-Kryptonian tools. Prior to that adventure, she stepped aside when Buffy slew several vampires.
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