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17th Feb '18 9:14:59 PM DavidDelony
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* People who support progressive income redistribution are often accused of having this mentality toward rich people.
7th Feb '18 3:59:01 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". In Korean, "An angular stone is bound to be chiselled.". A UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.

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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] Scandinavian concept of the "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". In Korean, "An angular stone is bound to be chiselled.". A UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.



-->1: Don't think you're anything special.
-->2: Don't think you're as much as ''us.''
-->3: Don't think you're wiser than ''us.''
-->4: Don't convince yourself that you're better than ''us.''
-->5: Don't think you know more than ''us.''
-->6: Don't think you are more than ''us.''
-->7: Don't think ''you'' are good at anything.
-->8: Don't laugh at ''us.''
-->9: Don't think anyone cares about ''you.''
-->10: Don't think you can teach ''us'' anything.
-->11: Don't think there's anything we don't know about you.

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-->1: Don't ##Don't think you're anything special.
-->2: Don't ##Don't think you're as much as ''us.''
-->3: Don't ##Don't think you're wiser than ''us.''
-->4: Don't ##Don't convince yourself that you're better than ''us.''
-->5: Don't ##Don't think you know more than ''us.''
-->6: Don't ##Don't think you are more than ''us.''
-->7: Don't ##Don't think ''you'' are good at anything.
-->8: Don't ##Don't laugh at ''us.''
-->9: Don't ##Don't think anyone cares about ''you.''
-->10: Don't ##Don't think you can teach ''us'' anything.
-->11: Don't ##Don't think there's anything we don't know about you.
1st Feb '18 9:32:00 PM riverdine
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* On an early episode of ''Creator/GameGrumps'', Arin complained of Jon's ability to figure out how to play Nickelodeon's ''Guts'' videogame. Arin got legitimately mad at Jon for knowing how to play the game[[note/]]timing button presses to throw a ball into a net while jumping[[/note]] while he himself couldn't get the timing down and ''demanded'' he be told how to play better so as for it to be fair, despite the fact they both went into the game with the same level of knowledge of how to play (ie, none).

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* On an early episode of ''Creator/GameGrumps'', Arin complained of Jon's ability to figure out how to play Nickelodeon's ''Guts'' videogame. Arin got legitimately mad at Jon for knowing how to play the game[[note/]]timing game[[note]]timing button presses to throw a ball into a net while jumping[[/note]] while he himself couldn't get the timing down and ''demanded'' he be told how to play better so as for it to be fair, despite the fact they both went into the game with the same level of knowledge of how to play (ie, none).
18th Jan '18 10:16:52 PM riverdine
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* On an early episode of ''Creator/GameGrumps'', Arin complained of Jon's ability to figure out how to play Nickelodeon's ''Guts'' videogame. Arin got legitimately mad at Jon for knowing how to play the game[[note/]]timing button presses to throw a ball into a net while jumping[[/note]] while he himself couldn't get the timing down and ''demanded'' he be told how to play better so as for it to be fair, despite the fact they both went into the game with the same level of knowledge of how to play (ie, none).
29th Dec '17 3:25:49 PM tricksterson
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* Repeatedly touched on in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' and ''UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}}'' as ObviouslyEvil, with repeated connections to Marx's slogan, which the novel's government and Twentieth Century Motor Company interpret as "punish those with ability, and reward those without."

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* Repeatedly touched on in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' and ''UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}}'' as ObviouslyEvil, with repeated connections to Marx's slogan, "Form each according to their ability, to each according to their need" which the novel's government and Twentieth Century Motor Company interpret as "punish those with ability, and reward those without."" In fact this is the central motivation of all her villains in all her novels..
28th Nov '17 10:55:11 PM Someguy0012
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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". In Korean, ''An angular stone is bound to be chiselled.''. A UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.

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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". In Korean, ''An "An angular stone is bound to be chiselled.''.". A UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.
28th Nov '17 10:54:39 PM Someguy0012
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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.

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Also related is the UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}ese proverb ''Deru kugi utareru'' -- "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" (in English, the phrase "proud nail" often has the same implication), which not only refers to ambition, but ''anyone'' who fails to conform; the [[UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} Norwegian]] "Jantelov" (see in Literature below); the UsefulNotes/{{Philippine|s}} ''Crab Mentality'' or "Crab Bucket Syndrome", based on the myth that if you have at least two crabs in a bucket, you don't need to have a lid, because the other(s) prevent any one member from trying to climb out of it; and the [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] proverb ''boven het maaiveld uitsteken'', more or less literally, "standing out above the level at which the field is mown". In Chinese, "the tall bird must be shot at". In Korean, ''An angular stone is bound to be chiselled.''. A UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}n proverb "Вот радость у соседа корова сдохла" (''Vot radost' -- u soseda korova sdokhla'' "What a joy, a neighbour's cow has died") describes the ''schadenfreude'' borne out of such mentality.
20th Nov '17 1:25:23 PM cdrood
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* Much of the mid-card in Wrestling/{{WWE}} there is what's referred to 50-50 booking where wrestlers in a feud would will exchange wins and losses with no clear winner so that no one looks weak. However, no one ever looks strong, either and don't really develop a strong following amongst casual fans. Only the few wrestlers at very top don't suffer from this. This leads to situations where a champion will often lose non-title matches, but win when the belt is on the line.
15th Nov '17 12:08:43 PM WolfMattGrey
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Compare DoWellButNotPerfect and TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong. Contrast SocialDarwinism, which is about those on top making it harder for those at the bottom to climb up, rather than those below acting to bring down those who try to rise, BullyingADragon, where trying to hammer down those clearly superior to you in magnitudes result in catastrophic consequences, and BewareTheSuperman, where the short poppies ''should'' be afraid of the tall. TheParagon actively tries to avoid this trope by bringing others ''up'' to his or her level, rather than letting them push him or her down. Contrast also the American aphorism "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." See also AmbitionIsEvil; EnemyMine; ItsPopularNowItSucks; and EnemiesEqualsGreatness (where it's people who hate an individual for being great). This is one of ThePerilsOfBeingTheBest. [[TropesAreTools It should also be noted that]], regardless of what the Tall Poppies themselves might think, it's not this trope if their own actions have legitimately brought a negative response on them.

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Compare DoWellButNotPerfect DoWellButNotPerfect, TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong and TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong.TooQualifiedToApply. Contrast SocialDarwinism, which is about those on top making it harder for those at the bottom to climb up, rather than those below acting to bring down those who try to rise, BullyingADragon, where trying to hammer down those clearly superior to you in magnitudes result in catastrophic consequences, and BewareTheSuperman, where the short poppies ''should'' be afraid of the tall. TheParagon actively tries to avoid this trope by bringing others ''up'' to his or her level, rather than letting them push him or her down. Contrast also the American aphorism "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." See also AmbitionIsEvil; EnemyMine; ItsPopularNowItSucks; and EnemiesEqualsGreatness (where it's people who hate an individual for being great). This is one of ThePerilsOfBeingTheBest. [[TropesAreTools It should also be noted that]], regardless of what the Tall Poppies themselves might think, it's not this trope if their own actions have legitimately brought a negative response on them.
15th Nov '17 5:25:58 AM FoxBluereaver
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* Sabrina in ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'' really doesn't like this. She believes that those who cut down the exceptional rather than working to improve themselves deserve to die, and [[spoiler: Dario]] found this out the hard way.
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