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15th Aug '17 1:55:24 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* This is what literally happens to [=BelialVamdemon=] ([=MaloMyotismon=] in the dub), the BiggerBad of ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02''. He linked his soul to multiple children, becoming stronger when said children feel despair. However, the protagonists lifted the spirits of these children by delivering a RousingSpeech. After that, each of the children then mentioned their hopes and dreams which actually destroys [=BelialVamdemon=].

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* This is what literally happens to [=BelialVamdemon=] ([=MaloMyotismon=] in the dub), the BiggerBad of dub) in ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02''. He linked his soul to multiple children, becoming stronger when said children feel despair. However, the protagonists lifted the spirits of these children by delivering a RousingSpeech. After that, each of the children then mentioned their hopes and dreams which actually destroys [=BelialVamdemon=].
10th Apr '17 6:48:48 PM nombretomado
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* ''ShamanKing'' arguably ends on this note in the Manga. [[spoiler: Much of the series has been about one desperate measure after another to catch up with [[BigBad Hao]], so that he cannot attain the power of God and eradicate humanity. Unfortunately, unlike in most manga, Hao's thousand-year head start on the forces training specifically to fight him proves to be an utterly insurmountable barrier: Hao has been training so long and so hard that he is completely unbeatable, even with all the strongest shaman beneath him working together, and even somehow managing to kill him wouldn't stop him from coming back in 500 years even stronger. Yoh's solution to this is to realize defeating Hao with force isn't an option and never was and proposes an alternative plan: confronting Hao in the Shaman King's realm and convincing him he's wrong. Appealing to Hao's humanity (particularly when Opacho and Hao's mother, two of the few things he truly cares about, join in the appeal) eventually convinces Hao to relent and bring everyone back to life, letting Yoh and the others live their lives without his interference. It's implied this is the only tactic that wasn't simply delaying the inevitable as far as Hao was concerned.The minor exception might be Lady Sati who would have had enough power to defeat Hao just by working with the rest of her team, Team Nyorai, not to mention her Gandhara followers, all of whom were more or less evenly matched with the likes of Jeanne, she just didn't have any intention whatsoever to win the Shaman Fight, and instead wanted to teach Hao how to become a proper Shaman King.]]

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* ''ShamanKing'' ''Manga/ShamanKing'' arguably ends on this note in the Manga. [[spoiler: Much of the series has been about one desperate measure after another to catch up with [[BigBad Hao]], so that he cannot attain the power of God and eradicate humanity. Unfortunately, unlike in most manga, Hao's thousand-year head start on the forces training specifically to fight him proves to be an utterly insurmountable barrier: Hao has been training so long and so hard that he is completely unbeatable, even with all the strongest shaman beneath him working together, and even somehow managing to kill him wouldn't stop him from coming back in 500 years even stronger. Yoh's solution to this is to realize defeating Hao with force isn't an option and never was and proposes an alternative plan: confronting Hao in the Shaman King's realm and convincing him he's wrong. Appealing to Hao's humanity (particularly when Opacho and Hao's mother, two of the few things he truly cares about, join in the appeal) eventually convinces Hao to relent and bring everyone back to life, letting Yoh and the others live their lives without his interference. It's implied this is the only tactic that wasn't simply delaying the inevitable as far as Hao was concerned.The minor exception might be Lady Sati who would have had enough power to defeat Hao just by working with the rest of her team, Team Nyorai, not to mention her Gandhara followers, all of whom were more or less evenly matched with the likes of Jeanne, she just didn't have any intention whatsoever to win the Shaman Fight, and instead wanted to teach Hao how to become a proper Shaman King.]]
8th Apr '17 11:40:43 AM nombretomado
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* The {{subverted|Trope}} version is used in the [[ClimaxBoss Climactic mid-way]] BossBattle of the {{O|riginalVideoAnimation}}VA of ''RecordOfLodossWar'' (which also happens to be the final battle in the first manga, where this trope is also used, since the OVA [[CompressedAdaptation condensed]] the story dramatically. [[spoiler: Ghim insists that Leylia still exists within her possessed body, and shows a comb he made for her, which allows Leylia a foothold, distracting Karla long enough for the [[PlayerParty Party]] to defeat her. Too bad the SixthRanger Woodchuck was possessed next.]]

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* The {{subverted|Trope}} version is used in the [[ClimaxBoss Climactic mid-way]] BossBattle of the {{O|riginalVideoAnimation}}VA of ''RecordOfLodossWar'' ''Anime/RecordOfLodossWar'' (which also happens to be the final battle in the first manga, where this trope is also used, since the OVA [[CompressedAdaptation condensed]] the story dramatically. [[spoiler: Ghim insists that Leylia still exists within her possessed body, and shows a comb he made for her, which allows Leylia a foothold, distracting Karla long enough for the [[PlayerParty Party]] to defeat her. Too bad the SixthRanger Woodchuck was possessed next.]]
19th Mar '17 1:05:25 AM Pegase
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* This often seems to be the whole point of Series/Flashpoint.

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* This often seems to be the whole point of Series/Flashpoint.Series/{{Flashpoint}}.
1st Feb '17 11:06:52 AM buttbutt
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* This is often [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel's]] go to approach if the situation doesn't call for immediate violence, and he's often successful at it.
** During a team up with Superman, Captain Marvel was forced to possess Superman's body in order to speak with an ancient frog goddess who was threatening to wipe out a large portion of humanity. Cap is able to simple talk her down using eloquence and sincere, heart felt compassion. The goddess leaves without further incident, and Superman admits that Cap succeeded with words where he would have failed with violence.
** A semi-example, but during the Crisis Times 5 JLA/JSA team up, Captain Marvel is able to end the battle between two 5th Dimensional Imps by combining their names into one word, and getting the good Imp present to say it, causing them to combine into a balanced entity.

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* This is often [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel's]] Shazam's]] go to approach if the situation doesn't call for immediate violence, and he's often successful at it.
** During a team up with Superman, Captain Marvel Shazam was forced to possess Superman's body in order to speak with an ancient frog goddess who was threatening to wipe out a large portion of humanity. Cap is able to simple talk her down using eloquence and sincere, heart felt compassion. The goddess leaves without further incident, and Superman admits that Cap succeeded with words where he would have failed with violence.
** A semi-example, but during the Crisis Times 5 JLA/JSA team up, Captain Marvel Shazam is able to end the battle between two 5th Dimensional Imps by combining their names into one word, and getting the good Imp present to say it, causing them to combine into a balanced entity.



** In a reversal of the above, Cap actually got the invading spirit to vacate a possessed body, rather than talk the host into giving up its power. During ''Comicbook/FinalCrisis'', Captain Marvel came across a woman who had become possessed by a demon. Captain Marvel basically glared at the demon and said, "Get out of her. NOW." The demon promptly left without another word.

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** In a reversal of the above, Cap actually got the invading spirit to vacate a possessed body, rather than talk the host into giving up its power. During ''Comicbook/FinalCrisis'', Captain Marvel Shazam came across a woman who had become possessed by a demon. Captain Marvel Shazam basically glared at the demon and said, "Get out of her. NOW." The demon promptly left without another word.
22nd Jan '17 12:47:54 PM Dark_Lord_
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* This is what literally happens to [=BelialVamdemon=] ([=MaloMyotismon=] in the dub), the BiggerBad of ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02''. He linked his soul to multiple children, becoming stronger when said children feel despair. However, the protagonists lifted the spirits of these children by delivering a RousingSpeech. After that, each of the children then mentioned their hopes and dreams which actually destroys [=BelialVamdemon=].
22nd Jan '17 8:11:49 AM blast335
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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. In episode 9 [[spoiler:after Sayaka became a witch, Oktavia, due to her corrupted Soul Gem, Kyoko desperately looked for ways to revert Sayaka back to being a human. QB told her that to his knowledge no one has ever been able to turn back once they became a witch. He gave Kyoko a HopeSpot by saying that there is no precedent to such thing, and there might be a way which he does not know of. Kyoko then proceeded to befriend and team up with Sayaka's best friend Madoka in an attempt to [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight talk Sayaka back into humanity.]]]] [[WrongGenreSavvy It]] [[MercyKill did not]] [[TakingYouWithMe end]] [[HeroicSacrifice well]].

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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. In episode 9 [[spoiler:after Sayaka became a witch, Oktavia, due to her corrupted Soul Gem, Kyoko desperately looked for ways to revert Sayaka back to being a human. QB Kubey told her that to his knowledge no one has ever been able to turn back once they became a witch. He gave Kyoko a HopeSpot by saying that there is no precedent to such thing, and there might be a way which he does not know of. Kyoko then proceeded to befriend and team up with Sayaka's best friend Madoka in an attempt to [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight talk Sayaka back into humanity.]]]] [[WrongGenreSavvy It]] [[MercyKill did not]] [[TakingYouWithMe end]] [[HeroicSacrifice well]].
18th Jan '17 12:25:33 AM SirPellucidar
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* After Attila the Hun and his hordes had burnt, raped, and pillaged their way across Italy and were about to sack Rome, Pope Leo I and two other ambassadors met with the barbarian leader. No one knows exactly what they said, but Attila and his army abruptly turned around and left.
8th Jan '17 12:47:21 PM nombretomado
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* In the [[TransformersTransTech Transformers Botcon 2008]] script reading, "Bee In The City", an entire legion of newly-sentient robots is turned against Megatron once the heroes explain to them the [[ObstructiveBureaucracy ridiculous amounts of paperwork]] they'll have to go through.

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* In the [[TransformersTransTech [[ComicBook/TransformersTransTech Transformers Botcon 2008]] script reading, "Bee In The City", an entire legion of newly-sentient robots is turned against Megatron once the heroes explain to them the [[ObstructiveBureaucracy ridiculous amounts of paperwork]] they'll have to go through.
20th Dec '16 3:45:27 AM Hanz
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*** The [=DLCs=] however allows you to talk a potential adversary out of a fight. In ''Far Harbor'', you can convince High Confessor Tektus to either walk away (if you're replacing him with a Synth double) or to talk him into blowing up his cult with the nuke in their base.
*** In ''Nuka World'', while not the final boss you can talk down Oswald the Outrageous either by passing a high-level speech check or give him a holotape of his girlfriend, which convinces him to leave Nuka World and take his ghouls with him. He'll even give you his sword and hat.
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