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1st Feb '17 11:06:52 AM buttbutt
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* This is often [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel's]] go to approach if the situation doesn't call for immediate violence, and he's often successful at it.
** During a team up with Superman, Captain Marvel was forced to possess Superman's body in order to speak with an ancient frog goddess who was threatening to wipe out a large portion of humanity. Cap is able to simple talk her down using eloquence and sincere, heart felt compassion. The goddess leaves without further incident, and Superman admits that Cap succeeded with words where he would have failed with violence.
** A semi-example, but during the Crisis Times 5 JLA/JSA team up, Captain Marvel is able to end the battle between two 5th Dimensional Imps by combining their names into one word, and getting the good Imp present to say it, causing them to combine into a balanced entity.

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* This is often [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel's]] Shazam's]] go to approach if the situation doesn't call for immediate violence, and he's often successful at it.
** During a team up with Superman, Captain Marvel Shazam was forced to possess Superman's body in order to speak with an ancient frog goddess who was threatening to wipe out a large portion of humanity. Cap is able to simple talk her down using eloquence and sincere, heart felt compassion. The goddess leaves without further incident, and Superman admits that Cap succeeded with words where he would have failed with violence.
** A semi-example, but during the Crisis Times 5 JLA/JSA team up, Captain Marvel Shazam is able to end the battle between two 5th Dimensional Imps by combining their names into one word, and getting the good Imp present to say it, causing them to combine into a balanced entity.



** In a reversal of the above, Cap actually got the invading spirit to vacate a possessed body, rather than talk the host into giving up its power. During ''Comicbook/FinalCrisis'', Captain Marvel came across a woman who had become possessed by a demon. Captain Marvel basically glared at the demon and said, "Get out of her. NOW." The demon promptly left without another word.

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** In a reversal of the above, Cap actually got the invading spirit to vacate a possessed body, rather than talk the host into giving up its power. During ''Comicbook/FinalCrisis'', Captain Marvel Shazam came across a woman who had become possessed by a demon. Captain Marvel Shazam basically glared at the demon and said, "Get out of her. NOW." The demon promptly left without another word.
22nd Jan '17 12:47:54 PM Dark_Lord_
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* This is what literally happens to [=BelialVamdemon=] ([=MaloMyotismon=] in the dub), the BiggerBad of ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02''. He linked his soul to multiple children, becoming stronger when said children feel despair. However, the protagonists lifted the spirits of these children by delivering a RousingSpeech. After that, each of the children then mentioned their hopes and dreams which actually destroys [=BelialVamdemon=].
22nd Jan '17 8:11:49 AM blast335
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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. In episode 9 [[spoiler:after Sayaka became a witch, Oktavia, due to her corrupted Soul Gem, Kyoko desperately looked for ways to revert Sayaka back to being a human. QB told her that to his knowledge no one has ever been able to turn back once they became a witch. He gave Kyoko a HopeSpot by saying that there is no precedent to such thing, and there might be a way which he does not know of. Kyoko then proceeded to befriend and team up with Sayaka's best friend Madoka in an attempt to [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight talk Sayaka back into humanity.]]]] [[WrongGenreSavvy It]] [[MercyKill did not]] [[TakingYouWithMe end]] [[HeroicSacrifice well]].

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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. In episode 9 [[spoiler:after Sayaka became a witch, Oktavia, due to her corrupted Soul Gem, Kyoko desperately looked for ways to revert Sayaka back to being a human. QB Kubey told her that to his knowledge no one has ever been able to turn back once they became a witch. He gave Kyoko a HopeSpot by saying that there is no precedent to such thing, and there might be a way which he does not know of. Kyoko then proceeded to befriend and team up with Sayaka's best friend Madoka in an attempt to [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight talk Sayaka back into humanity.]]]] [[WrongGenreSavvy It]] [[MercyKill did not]] [[TakingYouWithMe end]] [[HeroicSacrifice well]].
18th Jan '17 12:25:33 AM SirPellucidar
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* After Attila the Hun and his hordes had burnt, raped, and pillaged their way across Italy and were about to sack Rome, Pope Leo I and two other ambassadors met with the barbarian leader. No one knows exactly what they said, but Attila and his army abruptly turned around and left.
8th Jan '17 12:47:21 PM nombretomado
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* In the [[TransformersTransTech Transformers Botcon 2008]] script reading, "Bee In The City", an entire legion of newly-sentient robots is turned against Megatron once the heroes explain to them the [[ObstructiveBureaucracy ridiculous amounts of paperwork]] they'll have to go through.

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* In the [[TransformersTransTech [[ComicBook/TransformersTransTech Transformers Botcon 2008]] script reading, "Bee In The City", an entire legion of newly-sentient robots is turned against Megatron once the heroes explain to them the [[ObstructiveBureaucracy ridiculous amounts of paperwork]] they'll have to go through.
20th Dec '16 3:45:27 AM Hanz
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*** The [=DLCs=] however allows you to talk a potential adversary out of a fight. In ''Far Harbor'', you can convince High Confessor Tektus to either walk away (if you're replacing him with a Synth double) or to talk him into blowing up his cult with the nuke in their base.
*** In ''Nuka World'', while not the final boss you can talk down Oswald the Outrageous either by passing a high-level speech check or give him a holotape of his girlfriend, which convinces him to leave Nuka World and take his ghouls with him. He'll even give you his sword and hat.
29th Nov '16 12:21:15 AM Morgenthaler
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** Also, in "Silence in the Library" the Tenth Doctor [[spoiler: makes the unstoppable microscopic swarm-species Vashta Nerada back off using this technique - "I'm the Doctor and you're in the biggest library in the universe. [[BadAss Look me up.]]". .]]

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** Also, in "Silence in the Library" the Tenth Doctor [[spoiler: makes the unstoppable microscopic swarm-species Vashta Nerada back off using this technique - "I'm the Doctor and you're in the biggest library in the universe. [[BadAss Look me up.]]".". .]]
23rd Nov '16 12:49:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* Possible in a roundabout manner in ''IndianaJonesAndTheFateOfAtlantis'': [[spoiler: by exploiting Ubermann's lust for power so that he uses the ascension machine on himself]].

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* Possible in a roundabout manner in ''IndianaJonesAndTheFateOfAtlantis'': ''VideoGame/IndianaJonesAndTheFateOfAtlantis'': [[spoiler: by exploiting Ubermann's lust for power so that he uses the ascension machine on himself]].
10th Nov '16 5:31:20 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Literature/TheHobbit'', Gandalf achieves a variant of this by keeping the trolls who had taken Thorin and his companions prisoner talking until the sun came up (turning the trolls to stone). Bilbo attempts this to defuse the tension between the elves and men and the dwarves. It doesn't turn out so well. Also, in a milder example, Bilbo learns Smaug's weakness and avoids being caught and eatten by flattering and speaking cleverly with the dragon.
* The ''[[Literature/TheGoldenOecumene Golden Age]]'' series by JohnCWright has this as a property of the setting--AIs are all [[ThreeLawsCompliant inherently ethical]], and if you can convince them their very existence is making the universe worse [[LogicBomb they'll shut down]]. Similarly, the robots of Creator/IsaacAsimov can be coerced into shutting down, the method of which depends on how advanced they are. The early robots in 'I, Robot' could be shut down simply by giving them a decision whose end results, including those caused by inaction, would result in some sort of harm to humans (mental included), a violation of the first law of robotics. Later robots were programmed to choose the lesser harm and could avoid destruction this way, though a sufficiently advanced roboticist could still cause their destruction through a very deliberate and specific conversation. Lastly, (most) robots of all time periods could theoretically be ordered directly to destroy themselves, as the 2nd law, which dictates that robots must obey the commands of humans, supersedes the 3rd, which dictates that robots must enforce self-preservation. However, the robot would need to understand the reasons for its destruction as the difference between the two laws is not terribly considerable.\\

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* In ''Literature/TheHobbit'', Gandalf achieves a variant of this by keeping the trolls who had taken Thorin and his companions prisoner talking until the sun came up (turning the trolls to stone). Bilbo attempts this to defuse the tension between the elves and men and the dwarves. It doesn't turn out so well. Also, in a milder example, Bilbo learns Smaug's weakness and avoids being caught and eatten eaten by flattering and speaking cleverly with the dragon.
* The ''[[Literature/TheGoldenOecumene Golden Age]]'' series by JohnCWright Creator/JohnCWright has this as a property of the setting--AIs are all [[ThreeLawsCompliant inherently ethical]], and if you can convince them their very existence is making the universe worse [[LogicBomb they'll shut down]]. Similarly, the robots of Creator/IsaacAsimov can be coerced into shutting down, the method of which depends on how advanced they are. The early robots in 'I, Robot' could be shut down simply by giving them a decision whose end results, including those caused by inaction, would result in some sort of harm to humans (mental included), a violation of the first law of robotics. Later robots were programmed to choose the lesser harm and could avoid destruction this way, though a sufficiently advanced roboticist could still cause their destruction through a very deliberate and specific conversation. Lastly, (most) robots of all time periods could theoretically be ordered directly to destroy themselves, as the 2nd law, which dictates that robots must obey the commands of humans, supersedes the 3rd, which dictates that robots must enforce self-preservation. However, the robot would need to understand the reasons for its destruction as the difference between the two laws is not terribly considerable.\\
5th Nov '16 11:17:08 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series is famous for this. In almost every game you can talk the BigBad down by just telling him how stupid his plan is.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series is famous for this. In almost every game you can talk the BigBad down by just telling him how stupid flawed his plan is.



-->'''Chosen One:''' Can't we talk this over?\\

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-->'''Chosen --->'''Chosen One:''' Can't we talk this over?\\
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