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9th Jan '17 5:43:25 AM jormis29
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* Played for BlackComedy by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic. When Spoony gives him the choice of watching the Creator/RebBrown ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' or blackmail pictures of roofie-induced crossdressing being posted everywhere, he decides to hang himself instead.

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* Played for BlackComedy by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic. When Spoony gives him the choice of watching the Creator/RebBrown ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' ''Film/CaptainAmerica1979'' or blackmail pictures of roofie-induced crossdressing being posted everywhere, he decides to hang himself instead.
7th Jan '17 6:32:16 PM Unknownlight
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* We all took a test with two options to discuss from an excerpt or hypothetical, and you either are or know that one kid who made up a third option and ran with it.
** for example, someone is afraid of lizards, but is known for bravery. when the opportunity comes to touch a lizard, should she be brave and do it, or be brave and let her feelings be known? answer, obviously, is that she should do neither because she is not trying to be brave, but maintain that image. Therefore, she could treat it as stupid or childish, and make others who don not wish to touch it have an easy way out. (that question was real, buy the way, and that was an actual answer given.)
23rd Dec '16 9:08:49 AM h31r-of-l1f3
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*We all took a test with two options to discuss from an excerpt or hypothetical, and you either are or know that one kid who made up a third option and ran with it.
**for example, someone is afraid of lizards, but is known for bravery. when the opportunity comes to touch a lizard, should she be brave and do it, or be brave and let her feelings be known? answer, obviously, is that she should do neither because she is not trying to be brave, but maintain that image. Therefore, she could treat it as stupid or childish, and make others who don not wish to touch it have an easy way out. (that question was real, buy the way, and that was an actual answer given.)
27th Nov '16 4:44:36 PM Vir
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21st Nov '16 10:15:54 AM Astronut7
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->''"We live in a three dimensional space at minimum (SIX directional). Could you please pay attention to this fundamental fact of life already, and stop thinking in bloody binary? IF you are thinking in Binary, THEN you may be causing problems, OR you have found the correct solution AND may have not actually thought NOR learned anything at all, ELSE you may not have been hit by the consequences yet. IF. THEN. AND. OR. NOR. ELSE. Those six little words, plus concepts like WHY, BECAUSE, and UNCERTAIN, are the fundamentals of actually thinking whilst running the English Programming Language for the Human Operating System. Thank you."''

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->''"We live in a three dimensional space at minimum (SIX directional). Could you please pay attention to this fundamental fact of life already, and stop thinking in bloody binary? IF you are thinking in Binary, THEN you may be causing problems, OR you have found the correct solution AND may have not actually thought NOR learned anything at all, ELSE you may not have been hit by the consequences yet. IF. THEN. AND. OR. NOR. ELSE. Those six little words, plus concepts like WHY, QUERY, BECAUSE, and UNCERTAIN, are the fundamentals of actually thinking whilst running the English Programming Language for the Human Operating System. Thank you."''
21st Nov '16 10:05:54 AM Astronut7
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Sometimes a hero faces an agonizing decision where [[MortonsFork the apparent two choices are terrible]], such as a FriendOrIdolDecision or a SadisticChoice. Typically, the hero chooses the lesser of two evils.

However, sometimes the hero can respond with, "I don't like those choices; I'm taking a third option!" It is usually something completely unorthodox or seemingly suicidal. Yet this typically turns out to be the best choice after all, EverybodyLives, and the day is saved completely.

In general, a Third Option has [[RuleOfThree three basic requirements]] needed to seem plausible: time, resources, and knowledge. A Third Option is useless if you don't have time to implement it, don't have (usable) resources/power, or don't have knowledge of it. Depending on how well that rule is followed, the solution will usually either be [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome incredibly awesome]] or [[AssPull incredibly stupid.]] Deciding which examples are which is an exercise left to the reader, although {{Foreshadowing}} possible answers can help win them over.

In terms of personality, the Third Personality can be coined as the "Purple Oni", who was traits of both [[RedOniBlueOni Red Oni and Blue Oni]]. The Purple Oni may not necessarily have all traits of both the Red Oni and the Blue Oni. For example, Alice can be the loud, extroverted, and [[BookDumb Book Dumb]] Red Oni to Bob's silent, introverted, and [[InsufferableGenius Insufferable Genius]] Blue Oni. They often argue a lot, such as the objective of the mission, political alignments, or just where to go out for dinner in general. In order for their relationship to work, they often go to Charles to resolve their problems, who is ambiverted and socially accepted everywhere, and has a degree in engineering from {{Oxbridge}}.

This can be the hidden solution to a SecretTestOfCharacter. It's also one way to resolve a DebateAndSwitch and the only one of CuttingTheKnot. If done poorly, it may fall victim to the GoldenMeanFallacy. Sometimes it's triggered by HeadsTailsEdge. When the options are different sides in a conflict, taking a third option may lead to becoming OmnicidalNeutral.

In most PowerTrio scenarios, when TheSpock advocates one course of action and TheMcCoy insists upon the other, TheKirk will be particularly fond of using this method as a solution to the problem of the week. This is also the best way to deal with a XanatosGambit. A true MagnificentBastard will have [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow anticipated that]], though.

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Sometimes ->''"We live in a hero three dimensional space at minimum (SIX directional). Could you please pay attention to this fundamental fact of life already, and stop thinking in bloody binary? IF you are thinking in Binary, THEN you may be causing problems, OR you have found the correct solution AND may have not actually thought NOR learned anything at all, ELSE you may not have been hit by the consequences yet. IF. THEN. AND. OR. NOR. ELSE. Those six little words, plus concepts like WHY, BECAUSE, and UNCERTAIN, are the fundamentals of actually thinking whilst running the English Programming Language for the Human Operating System. Thank you."''
-->-- '''A Random Green Oni operating under the pseudonym of Charles for this Trope'''

If an individual
faces an agonizing decision where [[MortonsFork the apparent two choices are terrible]], such as a FriendOrIdolDecision or a SadisticChoice. Typically, SadisticChoice, then the hero chooses individual will attempt to choose the lesser of two evils.

However, sometimes the
evil, or else that individual has probably failed their hero can respond test.

If the individual is bamboozled by the shiny Morton's Fork, then they will also likely fail their hero test, or else the individual may get lucky and one of the two branches of Morton's Fork will actually be the Good End in disguise.

If the individual then responds
with, "I don't like those choices; I'm taking a third option!" It then the third option is usually probably something completely unorthodox and or seemingly suicidal. Yet this typically turns may turn out to be the best choice after all, EverybodyLives, or at the very least, it hopefully turns out to be better than what the consequences of the other two options were. Unfortunately, everybody is a critic after the fact, and will immediately point out several dozen things that the day is saved completely.

the individual on the scene should have done better, which begs the question: where are all of these bright ideas from these bright individuals when they are actually needed and or wanted?

In general, a Third Option, just like the First Option and the Second Option, usually has [[RuleOfThree three basic requirements]] needed to seem plausible: plausible after the fact: time, resources, and knowledge. A Third Option is useless if you don't have time to implement it, don't have (usable) resources/power, or don't have knowledge of it. it, or can't think of it because actually thinking is not typically a prerequisite burden for the classical hero or individuals in general. Depending on how well that rule is followed, the solution will usually either be [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome incredibly awesome]] or [[AssPull incredibly stupid.]] stupid]], or simply different and thus considered to be weird, strange, magical, evil, or grounds for ostracization and other forms of punishment simply because option three wasn't option one or two and the proponents of option one and two are selfish fools who don't like things that are different and aren't theirs. Deciding which examples are which is an exercise left to the reader, although {{Foreshadowing}} possible answers can help win them over.

In terms of personality, the Third Personality can be coined as the "Purple Oni", who was "Green Oni." The Green Oni may or may not exhibit some combination of traits of both from [[RedOniBlueOni Red Oni and Blue Oni]]. The Purple Oni may not necessarily have all traits of both the Red Oni and the Blue Oni.Oni]]. For example, Alice can be the loud, extroverted, and [[BookDumb Book Dumb]] Red Oni to Bob's silent, introverted, and [[InsufferableGenius Insufferable Genius]] Blue Oni. They often argue a lot, such as the objective of the mission, political alignments, or just where to go out for dinner in general. In order for their relationship to work, they often go to Charles to resolve their problems, who is ambiverted and socially accepted everywhere, and has a degree in engineering from {{Oxbridge}}.

Or Charles could just be completely and utterly wacko and of no help to anyone at all. Or Charles could be comatose, but Alice and Bob will talk to him anyway, or possibly to the potted plant, simply because they aren't talking to each other right now. Or Charles could be a socially unnacceptable petty tyrant that refuses to listen to anybody else. Or Charles could be just plain not interested in getting involved because Alice and Bob are always knocking on his door demanding that he solves their problems without sitting down and actually thinking of option three, four, five, six, etcetera, for themselves--and he doesn't even remember giving them permission to do so in the first place. It's even possible that Charles could be the subordinate, child, or other powerless individual related to Alice and Bob, and he has to put up with the clear raging insanity of Alice and Bob and all the other letters of the alphabet whilst Alice and Bob blithely refuse to listen to Charles saying "Option Three. 'Nuff Said. Every Single Time," through accident of birth. God help Charles if the latter is the case, because no one else will.

Green Oni characters are simply those those that do not fit into neatly into the boxes of Red Oni or Blue Oni, and they may not like being called Magenta, because that would be a Secondary, lesser colour under the RGB Primary colour system--or Purple, as that is at best a Tertiary colour. The Green Oni may be rare, and typically not well liked by the more common Red Oni and/or Blue Oni, unless they are somehow useful, in which case the Red and Blue Onis will likely viciously abuse and blatantly use the Green Oni whilst under the mistaken impression that they are doing the Green Oni a favour. Those with Autism-spectrum disorders may be a real-life example of the Green Oni Trope.

This can be the hidden solution to a SecretTestOfCharacter. It's also one way to resolve a DebateAndSwitch and the only one of CuttingTheKnot. If done poorly, it may fall victim to the GoldenMeanFallacy. Sometimes it's triggered by HeadsTailsEdge. When the options are different sides in a conflict, taking a third option may lead to becoming OmnicidalNeutral.

OmnicidalNeutral. Or the third option can be just plain random because the scriptwriters wanted to get some cheap and easy laughs from the audience.

In most PowerTrio scenarios, when TheSpock [Mr. Straw Logic if on a bad day] advocates one course of action and TheMcCoy [The Doctor: An Acceptable Target] insists upon the other, TheKirk [The Destined Hero, That Lucky Bastard, The Gary Stu, Mr. Always Right In The End] will be particularly fond of using this method as a solution to the problem of the week. This is also the best way to deal with a XanatosGambit. A true MagnificentBastard will have [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow anticipated that]], though.
11th Nov '16 8:46:46 AM Erzengel
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** Greatly parodied in [[http://sadpanda.us/images/723158-S16G7RZ.gif this]] ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' animated gif.
7th Nov '16 2:19:40 AM Trogdor
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-->'''Kate''' Whose life sucks more, mine or Brian's?
-->'''Rod and Nicky''' OURS!

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-->'''Kate''' -->'''Kate''': Whose life sucks more, mine Brian's or Brian's?
-->'''Rod
mine?\\
'''Rod
and Nicky''' Nicky''': OURS!
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