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28th Jul '16 8:04:47 PM PaulA
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* JudyBlume's ''Literature/{{Fudge}}'' novels (''Tales of a Fourth-Grade Nothing'' and its sequels) are written from the perspective of Peter Hatcher, an ordinary pre-teen boy who has to put up with such torments as his goofy kid brother Farley ([[OnlyKnownByTheirNickname better known to all and sundry]], including his parents, as "Fudge") and his SitcomArchNemesis Sheila Tubman. Blume also wrote a book starring Sheila, ''Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great'', around the time ''Fourth-Grade Nothing'' came out.

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* JudyBlume's Creator/JudyBlume's ''Literature/{{Fudge}}'' novels (''Tales of a Fourth-Grade Nothing'' and its sequels) are written from the perspective of Peter Hatcher, an ordinary pre-teen boy who has to put up with such torments as his goofy kid brother Farley ([[OnlyKnownByTheirNickname better known to all and sundry]], including his parents, as "Fudge") and his SitcomArchNemesis Sheila Tubman. Blume also wrote a book starring Sheila, ''Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great'', ''Literature/OtherwiseKnownAsSheilaTheGreat'', around the time ''Fourth-Grade Nothing'' came out.
26th Jun '16 6:24:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''For Love of Evil'', the sixth book of the series IncarnationsOfImmortality, which [[POVSequel features different protagonists for each volume]], gets told from the POV of Satan, the antagonist of all the previous books, giving him [[SatanIsGood noble (or at least sympathetic) motives]] for all his actions in the previous novels. Turns out Satan is TheChessmaster who really does want for good to triumph ... he just doesn't want ''God'' ([[spoiler: whom we finally see for the first time in the series in Satan's book ... turns out He's a total narcissist completely absorbed in self-adoration, which is the real reason He hasn't been taking an active part in the series]]) to triumph. One example of something the reader only finds out from following Satan's POV: none of the characters except Satan and JHVH (who is distinct from God, and on friendly terms with Satan) remember the Holocaust, because Satan was appalled by it and ''changed history in order to make it not happen''.

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* ''For Love of Evil'', the sixth book of the series IncarnationsOfImmortality, Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality, which [[POVSequel features different protagonists for each volume]], gets told from the POV of Satan, the antagonist of all the previous books, giving him [[SatanIsGood noble (or at least sympathetic) motives]] for all his actions in the previous novels. Turns out Satan is TheChessmaster who really does want for good to triumph ... he just doesn't want ''God'' ([[spoiler: whom we finally see for the first time in the series in Satan's book ... turns out He's a total narcissist completely absorbed in self-adoration, which is the real reason He hasn't been taking an active part in the series]]) to triumph. One example of something the reader only finds out from following Satan's POV: none of the characters except Satan and JHVH (who is distinct from God, and on friendly terms with Satan) remember the Holocaust, because Satan was appalled by it and ''changed history in order to make it not happen''.



* ''Ender's Shadow'', the sequel to ''EndersGame,'' is mostly from the view point of Bean, whose POV is much more sympathetic and more profound. It's Bean who gives the actual final order of the War to detonate the MD device within the last fighter remaining.

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* ''Ender's Shadow'', the sequel to ''EndersGame,'' ''Literature/EndersGame,'' is mostly from the view point of Bean, whose POV is much more sympathetic and more profound. It's Bean who gives the actual final order of the War to detonate the MD device within the last fighter remaining.
17th Jun '16 11:41:10 AM Eievie
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Compare VillainEpisode and POVSequel. Contrast with InAnotherMansShoes, OnlyOne, TheRashomon. InformedWrongness may be an inversion. See also ALighterShadeOfGrey.

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Compare VillainEpisode and POVSequel. Contrast with InAnotherMansShoes, OnlyOne, TheRashomon.RashomonStyle. InformedWrongness may be an inversion. See also ALighterShadeOfGrey.
13th Jun '16 8:59:41 PM PaulA
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* Creator/JamesFenimoreCooper's ''The Last of the Mohicans'' is an example where this occurs despite the general ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The passages which focus on Magua and the other Hurons make their motives more understandable and show that they have their own tragedies to bear, some of which have nothing to do with the novel's protagonists.

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* Creator/JamesFenimoreCooper's ''The Last of the Mohicans'' ''Literature/TheLastOfTheMohicans'' is an example where this occurs despite the general ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The passages which focus on Magua and the other Hurons make their motives more understandable and show that they have their own tragedies to bear, some of which have nothing to do with the novel's protagonists.
1st Jun '16 3:58:21 PM lavendermintrose
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* The staff and cast of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' openly admits that [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] is a NinetiesAntiHero. Ultimately subverted, intentionally or not, in that he often suffers DisproportionateRetribution, and that some of his problems are a result of DiabolusExMachina, especially later on in the series, whereas [[KarmaHoudini the comparable if not worse transgressions of a few other characters]] [[MoralDissonance are never addressed]].

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* The staff In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', all sides' characters are shown sympathetically. Even though the struggle is LaResistance vs. TheEmpire, the Britannian royals, knights, and cast of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' openly admits that [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] is a NinetiesAntiHero. Ultimately subverted, intentionally or not, in that he often suffers DisproportionateRetribution, and that some of his problems are a result of DiabolusExMachina, especially later on in the series, whereas [[KarmaHoudini the comparable if not worse transgressions of a few other characters]] [[MoralDissonance soldiers are never addressed]].shown as lovable characters just like the rebels. Take Gino, for instance - a [[{{Keet}} charming, sweet guy]] who fits right in with Lelouch's ordinary high school friends when he transfers to the school - episodes after he was eagerly looking forward to wiping out a million rebels. This serves to promote the series' theme of forgiveness, that all people are just trying to live their lives and find success and happiness the best that they can, and that, as Lelouch says in Stage 4, "Your enemy is not people, but Britannia itself." It's a system like TheEmpire, which leads people like Gino to want to become killers and rewards them for it, that needs to be destroyed, not the individual humans who are parts of it.
24th Jan '16 11:26:02 PM Kazmahu
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* [[PlayingWithATrope Interesting example]] in ''VideoGame/SenranKagura Shinovi Versus'': playing the Hebijo Elites' story gives sympathy and insight into their personalities and motivations. But since [[AnotherSideAnotherStory the player's on their side]], they end up succeeding at their [[KillEmAll utterly unsympathetic]] endgame. It's only after playing the other stories, where the Hebijo squad are seen a murderous psychos, that their story is resolved without them crossing any lines.
2nd Jan '16 10:56:39 PM nombretomado
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* ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'' takes Dr. Impossible's POV for alternating chapters, and makes him remarkably sympathetic for a {{supervillain}} on his thirteen attempt to TakeOverTheWorld.

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* ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'' ''Literature/SoonIWillBeInvincible'' takes Dr. Impossible's POV for alternating chapters, and makes him remarkably sympathetic for a {{supervillain}} on his thirteen attempt to TakeOverTheWorld.
24th Oct '15 6:41:02 PM Peteman
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** [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenn_Graneet Tenn Graneet]] could be the poster boy for this trope. In ''Film/ANewHope'', he's the heartless Imperial bastard who push-buttons [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan into oblivion]]; in ''Literature/DeathStar'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's]] [[HeroicBSOD much]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor more]] [[DoomedByCanon sympathetic]] [[TheWoobie by far]].

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** [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenn_Graneet Tenn Graneet]] could be the poster boy for this trope. In ''Film/ANewHope'', he's the heartless Imperial bastard who push-buttons [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan into oblivion]]; in ''Literature/DeathStar'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's]] [[HeroicBSOD much]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor more]] [[DoomedByCanon sympathetic]] [[TheWoobie by by]] [[RedemptionEqualsDeath far]].
20th Oct '15 6:59:27 PM babyhenchy1
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** '''Jaime''', who spends two books cast as a cold bastard hiding behind golden armor before we get to his [=POV=] right around the time he starts to defrost and realize his errors. Even if after that, he does threaten to [[spoiler: send Edmure Tully -- who's already lost his sister and nephew to the Freys joining the Lannisters -- his unborn child on a trebuchet if he doesn't comply with a truce]]. He also counts as a subversion. His initial [=POV=] chapters portray him as the arrogant prick we've come to think of him as, [[spoiler:then his hand is cut off]] leading to a BreakTheHaughty moment. It isn't until after that he becomes sympathetic, largely because he himself starts to wonder how he turned out like this.

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** '''Jaime''', who spends two books cast as a cold bastard hiding behind golden armor before we get to his [=POV=] right around the time he starts to defrost and realize his errors. Even if after that, he does threaten to [[spoiler: send Edmure Tully -- who's already lost his sister and nephew to the Freys joining the Lannisters -- his unborn child on a trebuchet if he doesn't comply with a truce]].truce]], though whether he was bluffing or not to avoid real bloodshed is up for debate. He also counts as a subversion. His initial [=POV=] chapters portray him as the arrogant prick we've come to think of him as, [[spoiler:then his hand is cut off]] leading to a BreakTheHaughty moment. It isn't until after that he becomes sympathetic, largely because he himself starts to wonder how he turned out like this.
18th Oct '15 2:14:40 AM MrThorfan64
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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore (though to the reader it is clear he wouldn't do that), murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, helps his [[TheCaligula vicious idiot]] of a nephew remain on the throne even though in reality they don't have any right to it, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].

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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore (though to the reader it is clear he wouldn't do that), murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, helps his (in his own words) [[TheCaligula vicious idiot]] "vicious idiot"]] of a nephew remain on the throne even though in reality they don't have any right to it, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].



** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning to kill Stannis and because there does to be genuine power in the magic of this religion). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him.

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** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning intended to kill Stannis so he could usurp the throne and because there does to be genuine power in the magic of this religion). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him. His AdaptionalVillainy in the series is one of the most hated aspects.
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