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24th Jan '16 11:26:02 PM Kazmahu
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* [[PlayingWithATrope Interesting example]] in ''VideoGame/SenranKagura Shinovi Versus'': playing the Hebijo Elites' story gives sympathy and insight into their personalities and motivations. But since [[AnotherSideAnotherStory the player's on their side]], they end up succeeding at their [[KillEmAll utterly unsympathetic]] endgame. It's only after playing the other stories, where the Hebijo squad are seen a murderous psychos, that their story is resolved without them crossing any lines.
2nd Jan '16 10:56:39 PM nombretomado
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* ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'' takes Dr. Impossible's POV for alternating chapters, and makes him remarkably sympathetic for a {{supervillain}} on his thirteen attempt to TakeOverTheWorld.

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* ''SoonIWillBeInvincible'' ''Literature/SoonIWillBeInvincible'' takes Dr. Impossible's POV for alternating chapters, and makes him remarkably sympathetic for a {{supervillain}} on his thirteen attempt to TakeOverTheWorld.
24th Oct '15 6:41:02 PM Peteman
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** [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenn_Graneet Tenn Graneet]] could be the poster boy for this trope. In ''Film/ANewHope'', he's the heartless Imperial bastard who push-buttons [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan into oblivion]]; in ''Literature/DeathStar'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's]] [[HeroicBSOD much]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor more]] [[DoomedByCanon sympathetic]] [[TheWoobie by far]].

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** [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenn_Graneet Tenn Graneet]] could be the poster boy for this trope. In ''Film/ANewHope'', he's the heartless Imperial bastard who push-buttons [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan into oblivion]]; in ''Literature/DeathStar'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's]] [[HeroicBSOD much]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor more]] [[DoomedByCanon sympathetic]] [[TheWoobie by by]] [[RedemptionEqualsDeath far]].
20th Oct '15 6:59:27 PM babyhenchy1
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** '''Jaime''', who spends two books cast as a cold bastard hiding behind golden armor before we get to his [=POV=] right around the time he starts to defrost and realize his errors. Even if after that, he does threaten to [[spoiler: send Edmure Tully -- who's already lost his sister and nephew to the Freys joining the Lannisters -- his unborn child on a trebuchet if he doesn't comply with a truce]]. He also counts as a subversion. His initial [=POV=] chapters portray him as the arrogant prick we've come to think of him as, [[spoiler:then his hand is cut off]] leading to a BreakTheHaughty moment. It isn't until after that he becomes sympathetic, largely because he himself starts to wonder how he turned out like this.

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** '''Jaime''', who spends two books cast as a cold bastard hiding behind golden armor before we get to his [=POV=] right around the time he starts to defrost and realize his errors. Even if after that, he does threaten to [[spoiler: send Edmure Tully -- who's already lost his sister and nephew to the Freys joining the Lannisters -- his unborn child on a trebuchet if he doesn't comply with a truce]].truce]], though whether he was bluffing or not to avoid real bloodshed is up for debate. He also counts as a subversion. His initial [=POV=] chapters portray him as the arrogant prick we've come to think of him as, [[spoiler:then his hand is cut off]] leading to a BreakTheHaughty moment. It isn't until after that he becomes sympathetic, largely because he himself starts to wonder how he turned out like this.
18th Oct '15 2:14:40 AM MrThorfan64
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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore (though to the reader it is clear he wouldn't do that), murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, helps his [[TheCaligula vicious idiot]] of a nephew remain on the throne even though in reality they don't have any right to it, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].

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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore (though to the reader it is clear he wouldn't do that), murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, helps his (in his own words) [[TheCaligula vicious idiot]] "vicious idiot"]] of a nephew remain on the throne even though in reality they don't have any right to it, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].



** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning to kill Stannis and because there does to be genuine power in the magic of this religion). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him.

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** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning intended to kill Stannis so he could usurp the throne and because there does to be genuine power in the magic of this religion). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him. His AdaptionalVillainy in the series is one of the most hated aspects.
5th Oct '15 7:10:33 AM StFan
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* The comic ''LexLuthorManOfSteel'' looked at {{Superman}} from the perspective of his {{archnemesis}}. Here, Superman comes across as a cold, distant, incredibly powerful alien whose immense natural abilities make a mockery of human accomplishments. Although in this case, for all his supposed humanism and the angry glowing super-eyes of his rival, Luthor's actions in the comic still make it absolutely clear who the villain is.

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* The comic ''LexLuthorManOfSteel'' looked ''ComicBook/LexLuthorManOfSteel'' looks at {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} from the perspective of his {{archnemesis}}. Here, Superman comes across as a cold, distant, incredibly powerful alien whose immense natural abilities make a mockery of human accomplishments. Although in this case, for all his supposed humanism and the angry glowing super-eyes of his rival, Luthor's actions in the comic still make it absolutely clear who the villain is.
14th Sep '15 11:56:40 PM harostar
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** The sequel does away with this since it no longer follows Kaneki and instead follows Haise Sasaki [[spoiler:actually an amnesiac Kaneki]], a CCG team leader in charge of an experimental team of hybrid agents. In the absence of a sympathetic Ghoul protagonist, the Ghouls come across as a lot more monstrous.

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** The sequel does ''seems'' to have done away with this since it no longer follows Kaneki and instead follows at first, following Ghoul Investigator Haise Sasaki [[spoiler:actually an [[spoiler: (an amnesiac Kaneki]], a CCG Kaneki)]]. The Ghouls the team leader in charge hunt are fairly monstrous, leaving very little sympathy for their side of an experimental team of hybrid agents. In things. However, things begin to become complicated again as the absence of a story progresses. Old characters return to offer sympathetic Ghoul protagonist, views for the Ghouls come across as a lot more monstrous.Ghouls, while several fairly sinister human Investigators are introduced to restore the balanced approach.
18th Aug '15 12:16:00 AM MrThorfan64
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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore, murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].

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** '''Tyrion''', who mostly comes across as sympathetic because we see him almost entirely from his point of view. It's easy to forget that he's the same guy who [[spoiler: ordered a singer to be murdered and carved up for soup in King's Landing, threatened to rape his nephew to keep his sister from abusing a girl she thought was his whore, whore (though to the reader it is clear he wouldn't do that), murdered the same whore while on his way towards murdering his father, helps his [[TheCaligula vicious idiot]] of a nephew remain on the throne even though in reality they don't have any right to it, and let his group of thieving, raping barbarians run wild around King's Landing]].



** '''Cersei''' is actually something of an aversion; while the audience finally gets a look at [[spoiler: the childhood prophecy that's shaped her entire life through fear]], they also get a look at her utter hostility, such as her silent fury during the marriage of Tommen and Margaery. Even in her own POV, she comes across as petty and selfish at best, and outright psychopathic at worst - even as a child of ten she was capable of [[spoiler: arranging the murder of one of her best friends.]]
** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning to kill Stannis). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him.

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** '''Cersei''' is actually something of an aversion; while the audience finally gets a look at [[spoiler: the childhood prophecy that's shaped her entire life through fear]], they also get a look at her utter hostility, such as her silent fury during the marriage of Tommen and Margaery.Margaery, and her paranoia, assuming anyone who opposes her is working with her enemies. Even in her own POV, she comes across as petty and selfish at best, and outright psychopathic at worst - even as a child of ten she was capable of [[spoiler: arranging the murder of one of her best friends.]]
** '''Stannis''' is described [[TheGhost throughout the first book]] as someone rigid and unpleasant. Then the prologue to the second book sets him up as a possibly-evil KnightTemplar. ''Then'', for the rest of the series so far, we see Stannis through the eyes of Davos, who is both the most honorable POV character we still have and probably the person who loves Stannis the most in the Seven Kingdoms (including his wife). While he does have his bad moments, like letting his EvilChancellor [[spoiler:''kill his brother'']] or burn his enemies alive to appease a god he doesn't even believe in, we still can't hate the guy (partially because his brother was a BitchInSheepsClothing who was planning to kill Stannis).Stannis and because there does to be genuine power in the magic of this religion). He actually [[EnsembleDarkhorse has a sizeable subset of the fandom not just liking him]], but worshiping him.
12th Aug '15 6:33:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/StargateAtlantis'': The episode "Michael" is mostly seen from the titular character's point-of-view. From the moment he wakes up in the infirmary with amnesia, to every scene where the main characters are conferencing about his condition, he is faced with uncertainty, the sense that something is deeply wrong and that his superiors and friends are hiding the truth about what the Wraith really did to him when they captured him. Eventually, he discovers he's a Wraith that has been captured by the humans and has been subjected to non-consensual experimental drugs to turn him human, and follow-up psychological conditioning to try and make him believe this is the best thing for him. The episode ends with the sense that the humans have not done something good and, even if Michael is from the show's villainous species, his horror and anger at what's been done to him is justified.

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* ''Series/StargateAtlantis'': The episode "Michael" is mostly seen from the titular character's point-of-view. From the moment he wakes up in the infirmary with amnesia, to every scene where the main characters are conferencing about his condition, he is faced with uncertainty, the sense that something is deeply wrong and that his superiors and friends are hiding the truth about what the Wraith really did to him when they captured him. Eventually, he [[TomatoInTheMirror discovers he's actually a Wraith Wraith]] that has been captured by the humans and has been subjected to non-consensual experimental drugs to turn him human, and follow-up psychological conditioning to try and make him believe this is the best thing for him. The episode ends with the sense that the humans have not done something good and, even if Michael is from the show's villainous species, his horror and anger at what's been done to him is justified.
12th Aug '15 6:29:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TheXFiles'''s episode "Hunger" followed the MonsterOfTheWeek, a voraciously hungry ExtremeOmnivore who was just quietly trying to follow his TragicDream of [[IJustWantToBeNormal being normal]], despite his nature. Mulder and Scully only appear at the end.

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* ''Series/TheXFiles'''s ''Series/TheXFiles'':
** The
episode "Hunger" followed the MonsterOfTheWeek, a voraciously hungry ExtremeOmnivore who was just quietly trying to follow his TragicDream of [[IJustWantToBeNormal being normal]], despite his nature. Mulder and Scully only appear at the end.
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