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23rd Apr '17 10:09:35 PM wentesur
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* Sara Valestein in VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsOfColdSteel uses sword and gun as her weapon of choice. Both of them are sold in one package instead of separately since the game has no right-left hand equipment system.
23rd Apr '17 6:40:49 PM nombretomado
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** Again in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'', precisely in the [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheWorld Radiant Mythology subseries]], more precisely [[NoExportForYou in the two titles not released outside of Japan]], there's the {{Pirate}} [[JobSystem class]] that fights with [[http://images.wikia.com/aselia/images/e/ec/Pirate.jpg both a dagger and a gun]] and looks cool too.

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** Again in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'', ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', precisely in the [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheWorld Radiant Mythology subseries]], more precisely [[NoExportForYou in the two titles not released outside of Japan]], there's the {{Pirate}} [[JobSystem class]] that fights with [[http://images.wikia.com/aselia/images/e/ec/Pirate.jpg both a dagger and a gun]] and looks cool too.
22nd Apr '17 9:50:47 AM TheBigBopper
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A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other. The difference is that hardly any warfighter today wears a full-length sword, since they lack a knife's MundaneUtility and are too inconvenient to wear considering how little they would be used.

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A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other. The difference is that hardly any warfighter today wears a full-length sword, sword since they they're harder to draw or wield in close quarters, lack a knife's MundaneUtility MundaneUtility, and are too inconvenient to wear considering how little rarely they would be used.
22nd Apr '17 9:47:21 AM TheBigBopper
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A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other. The difference is that hardly any warfighter today wears a full-length sword, since they lack a knife's MundaneUtility and are too encumbering to wear considering how little they would be used.

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A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other. The difference is that hardly any warfighter today wears a full-length sword, since they lack a knife's MundaneUtility and are too encumbering inconvenient to wear considering how little they would be used.
22nd Apr '17 9:44:09 AM TheBigBopper
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Often [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in historical settings, since old-fashioned pistols were almost entirely single-shot and inaccurate enough to make it essentially pointless to use both hands. Once you'd "had your shot", a single-shot pistol became nothing more than an elaborate club or a tool for parrying blades, until you got the thirty-plus second respite required to reload. Early cap-and-ball revolvers increased the number of shots, but still took long enough to reload that carrying a blade could be useful. GenreSavvy folk who could afford it would often carry a whole brace of guns to . This is often seen with the SamuraiCowboy.

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Often [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in historical settings, since old-fashioned pistols were almost entirely single-shot and inaccurate enough to make it essentially pointless to use both hands. Once you'd "had your shot", a single-shot pistol became nothing more than an elaborate club or a tool for parrying blades, until you got the thirty-plus second respite required to reload. Early cap-and-ball revolvers increased the number of shots, but still took long enough to reload that carrying a blade could be useful. This is often seen with the SamuraiCowboy. GenreSavvy folk who could afford it would often carry a whole brace of extra guns to . This is often seen with the SamuraiCowboy.
to increase their firepower.
22nd Apr '17 9:42:30 AM TheBigBopper
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Somewhat [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in historical settings, since old-fashioned pistols were almost entirely single-shot and inaccurate enough to make it essentially pointless to use both hands. Once you'd "had your shot", a single-shot pistol became nothing more than an elaborate club or a tool for parrying blades, until you got the thirty-plus second respite required to reload. Most folk, being fairly GenreSavvy, would often carry a whole brace of guns as a result (assuming they could afford it) so that they could have more than just one shot. This is often seen with the SamuraiCowboy.

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Somewhat Often [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in historical settings, since old-fashioned pistols were almost entirely single-shot and inaccurate enough to make it essentially pointless to use both hands. Once you'd "had your shot", a single-shot pistol became nothing more than an elaborate club or a tool for parrying blades, until you got the thirty-plus second respite required to reload. Most folk, being fairly GenreSavvy, Early cap-and-ball revolvers increased the number of shots, but still took long enough to reload that carrying a blade could be useful. GenreSavvy folk who could afford it would often carry a whole brace of guns as a result (assuming they could afford it) so that they could have more than just one shot.to . This is often seen with the SamuraiCowboy.



A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other.

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A modern version of this trope has the wielder carrying a gun in one hand and a knife in the other. To some extent, this is actually TruthInTelevision, as soldiers are still issued knives or machetes for use as tools or emergency weapons. Many special forces units are well-versed in the use of knives for close-quarters combat, with some techniques advocating the use of both in tandem with each other.
other. The difference is that hardly any warfighter today wears a full-length sword, since they lack a knife's MundaneUtility and are too encumbering to wear considering how little they would be used.
22nd Apr '17 9:32:13 AM TheBigBopper
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* Matt Easton has made a few useful videos for understanding historical usage of guns in conjunction with swords and knives:

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* Matt Easton of ''WebVideo/ScholaGladiatoria'' has made a few useful videos for understanding historical usage of guns in conjunction with swords and knives:
18th Apr '17 1:42:11 AM SebastianGray
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** In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'', the majority of [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Kharadron]] Arkanuts are generally equipped with a aether-powers pistol and close combat weapon known as an Arkanaut cutter that release a burst of energy when they cut their target. The more successful Arkanauts often wield elaborately designed and decorated version of these weapons.

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** In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'', the majority of [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Kharadron]] Arkanuts Arkanauts are generally equipped with a an aether-powers pistol and a close combat weapon known as an Arkanaut cutter that release a burst of energy when they cut their target. The more successful Arkanauts often wield elaborately designed and decorated version of these weapons.
30th Mar '17 2:28:14 AM SebastianGray
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* This style is prevalent in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. [[PistolWhipping Having a pistol nets you the same benefits as wielding another close-combat weapon]]--usually for the exact same cost--and you can also shoot with it. There are ''some'' melee weapons which require a soldier having two of that same weapon for that benefit, though.
** Oddly enough you have to put quite a few points into the right weapon skills to do this in the [=RPG=]s, despite it being an almost universal practice in the setting for anyone carrying a pistol.
*** This is not unusual, as the Tabletop figures that do this are usually leaders, special characters, or specialist assault troops who, in the RPG, would have XP to burn.
** Where normal chapters can use Bolt Pistols along with a sword, the Grey Hunters and some other units of the Space Wolves chapter can use boltguns instead at the same cost. To elaborate, boltguns are weapons that normally uses both hands to carry, and the Space Wolves use it one-handed at the same efficiency, plus the bonus of also being able to carry a melee weapon in the other hand.
*** To take it to an even greater extreme, the Grey Knights use a storm bolter, which is similar to having two bolters ''in one hand'' (well, [[UnusualWeaponMounting wrist]]). To reiterate, a boltgun is the main infantry weapon of the setting's Super Soldiers, and these guys have a double-barreled version of them in one hand, and a goddamn halberd in the other. UpToEleven indeed.
*** Both the Grey Knights, and all Space Marine Terminators, use storm bolters--which are weapons in their own right. Their traitorous brethren, the Chaos Space Marine Terminators, use the older design--which ''is'' two bolters strapped together.
*** Exaggerated and PlayedForLaughs with the meme "Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword." The person with the sword has a pistol as well, but is also standing in the turret of a Leman Russ battle tank.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Battle'' the Empire, the Skaven and Dwarfs can do this. For dwarfs it's the only way many of their characters can get "two hand weapons"; Skaven can do this together with a tail weapon.

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** In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the more technologically advanced armies, such as the Empire, the [[RatFolk Skaven]] and Dwarfs are able to arm their characters and unit leaders can do this. For dwarfs it's the only way many of their characters can get "two hand weapons"; Skaven can do this together with a tail weapon.
** In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'', the majority of [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame Kharadron]] Arkanuts are generally equipped with a aether-powers pistol and close combat weapon known as an Arkanaut cutter that release a burst of energy when they cut their target. The more successful Arkanauts often wield elaborately designed and decorated version of these weapons.
**''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'':
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This style is prevalent in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. extremely prevalent in all armies due to the fact that a [[PistolWhipping Having a pistol nets you the same benefits as wielding another close-combat weapon]]--usually for the exact same cost--and you can also shoot with it. There are ''some'' melee weapons which require a soldier having two of that same weapon for that benefit, though.
**
Oddly enough however you have to put quite a few points into the right weapon skills to do this in the [=RPG=]s, despite it being an almost universal practice in the setting for anyone carrying a pistol.
*** This is not unusual, as In previous editions, the Tabletop figures that do this are usually leaders, special characters, or specialist assault troops who, in the RPG, would have XP to burn.
** Where normal chapters can use Bolt Pistols along with a sword, the Grey Hunters and
some other units of the Space Wolves chapter can and Plague Marines could use boltguns instead of pistols at the same cost. To elaborate, boltguns are weapons that normally uses use both hands to carry, and the Space Wolves use it one-handed at the same efficiency, plus the bonus of also being able to carry a melee weapon in the other hand.
*** To take it to an even greater extreme, The basic armament for the Grey Knights use a storm bolter, which is similar to having two bolters ''in one hand'' (well, [[UnusualWeaponMounting wrist]]). To reiterate, a boltgun is the main infantry weapon of the setting's Super Soldiers, and these guys have a double-barreled version of them in one hand, and a goddamn halberd in the other. UpToEleven indeed.
*** Both the Grey Knights, and all
Space Marine Terminators, use storm bolters--which are weapons in their own right. Their traitorous brethren, the and Chaos Space Marine Terminators, use the older design--which ''is'' two bolters strapped together.
*** Exaggerated and PlayedForLaughs
Terminators is a double-barrelled bolter in one hand with the meme "Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword." The person with the sword has a pistol as well, but is also standing powered close combat weapon, often a PowerFist, in the turret of a Leman Russ battle tank.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Battle'' the Empire, the Skaven and Dwarfs can do this. For dwarfs it's the only way many of their characters can get "two hand weapons"; Skaven can do this together with a tail weapon.
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20th Feb '17 9:00:08 PM AthenaBlue
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* Kanan combines this with DualWielding in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' when he duels the Inquisitor with both his lightsaber and Ezra's, which [[SwissArmyWeapon doubles as a blaster]].


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'':
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS1E13FireAcrossTheGalaxy "Fire Across the Galaxy"]]: Kanan combines this with DualWielding when he duels the Inquisitor with both his lightsaber and Ezra's, which [[SwissArmyWeapon doubles as a blaster]].
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS2E07StealthStrike "Stealth Strike"]]: This time, Kanan does a more traditional version using his lightsaber and a standard-issue stormtrooper blaster.
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