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27th Mar '17 8:06:20 AM thatother1dude
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Blendin's Game", we learn Soos' father abandoned him, and wrote postcards every year on his birthday [[BlatantLies promising he'd come back]]. Dipper and Mabel enter into a life-threatening challenge with Blendin Blandin in order to get a Time Wish, so that Soos can wish his father would come and visit him. Soos instead uses it to clean up Dipper and Mabel (and to get a self-regenerating pizza slice), realizing the the Twins have done more for him than his father and are his real family.
23rd Mar '17 1:43:15 AM Irradiance
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* Wrestling/SamiZayn's quest for the [[Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] Championship and his reputation as the guy who's incapable of winning "the big one" come to a head in his feud with long time friend Wrestling/AdrianNeville. Zayn's unwavering stance on winning and doing things the honest way earned him criticism from the champion, Neville, who never outright cheated, but showed he was willing to cut corners to retain the belt when pushed to the brink even if doing so risked compromising his friendship with Zayn. Neville cited his friend's kindness and lack of a killer instinct as reasons he would never win when it truly mattered. These words lit a fire under Zayn, who put his career on the line and slapped Neville in anger, finally done with being the nice guy that worked to earn the respect of others. During the championship match, the referee gets knocked out and Zayn is left with the perfect opportunity to smash Neville's face in with the championship belt for an easy win. This is Zayn's chance to not only prove he win the big one, but that he ''isn't'' "too nice" to be champion. Zayn is [[MoralDilemma conflicted]], but ultimately decides against using the belt...and then goes on to win the match clean. In doing so, Zayn keeps his career ''and'' his friendship with Neville, wins the big one, and above all, stays true to himself.

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* Wrestling/SamiZayn's quest for the [[Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] Championship and his reputation as the guy who's [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut incapable of winning "the big one" one"]] come to a head in his feud with long time friend Wrestling/AdrianNeville. Zayn's unwavering stance on winning and doing things the honest way earned him criticism from the champion, Neville, who never outright cheated, but showed he was willing to cut corners to retain the belt when pushed to the brink even if doing so risked compromising his friendship with Zayn. Neville cited his friend's kindness and lack of a killer instinct as reasons he would never win when it truly mattered. These words lit a fire under Zayn, who put his career on the line and slapped Neville in anger, finally done with being the nice guy that worked always has to earn the respect of others.show respect. During the championship match, the referee gets knocked out and Zayn is left with the perfect opportunity to smash Neville's face in with the championship belt for an easy win. This is Zayn's chance to not only prove he can win the big one, but that to also prove he ''isn't'' "too nice" to be champion. Zayn is [[MoralDilemma conflicted]], but ultimately decides against using the belt...and then goes on to win wins the match clean. In doing so, Zayn keeps his career ''and'' his friendship with Neville, wins the big one, and above all, stays true to himself.
23rd Mar '17 1:29:35 AM Irradiance
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* Wrestling/SamiZayn's quest for the [[Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] Championship and his reputation as the guy who's incapable of winning "the big one" come to a head in his feud with long time friend Wrestling/AdrianNeville. Zayn's unwavering stance on winning and doing things the honest way earned him criticism from the champion, Neville, who never outright cheated, but showed he was willing to cut corners to retain the belt when pushed to the brink even if doing so risked compromising his friendship with Zayn. Neville cited his friend's kindness and lack of a killer instinct as reasons he would never win when it truly mattered. These words lit a fire under Zayn, who put his career on the line and slapped Neville in anger, finally done with being the nice guy that worked to earn the respect of others. During the championship match, the referee gets knocked out and Zayn is left with the perfect opportunity to smash Neville's face in with the championship belt for an easy win. This is Zayn's chance to not only prove he win the big one, but that he ''isn't'' "too nice" to be champion. Zayn is [[MoralDilemma conflicted]], but ultimately decides against using the belt...and then goes on to win the match clean. In doing so, Zayn keeps his career ''and'' his friendship with Neville, wins the big one, and above all, stays true to himself.
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19th Feb '17 7:35:12 PM SpectralTime
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Moana}}'' has the hero Maui sacrificing his magical fishhook, which is the source of many of his powers, and to which he attaches a great deal of his self-worth, blocking a blow from the mad volcano demon to protect Moana and right a past wrong. In the end, [[spoiler: the goddess presents him with a new one as thanks for his service]].
11th Feb '17 1:16:16 PM KingClark
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* ''VideoGame/{{BioShock|1}}'' has an infamous example. Whenever you encounter a [[CreepyChild Little Sister]], you're given two options: "Harvest", which kills the Little Sister [[EvilPaysBetter but gives you more]] [[BioAugmentation ADAM]], or "Rescue", which cures the Little Sister of her [[BodyHorror sea slug]]-induced possession [[BeingGoodSucks but gives you less]]... ''in theory.'' [[MamaBear Dr. Tenenbaum]] will reward you for saving the Little Sisters with free [[PowersAsPrograms Plasmids]] and bonus ADAM; all things considered (see Second bullet for details) resisting temptation and playing the hero is ultimately just as rewarding, if not more so, than choosing the evil route.
** Harvesting every Little Sister grants 280 ADAM which is more than one will get for rescuing. However when you account for the free plasmids and gene tonics you get from Tenenbaum, some of which can only be acquired in this manner, the value of Harvesting disappears entirely; from a rewards perspective, virtue is the superior option. It's especially worth it when you consider the 100G Achievement that comes with rescuing every little sister.

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* ''VideoGame/{{BioShock|1}}'' has an infamous example. Whenever you encounter a [[CreepyChild Little Sister]], you're given two options: "Harvest", which kills the Little Sister [[EvilPaysBetter but gives you more]] [[BioAugmentation ADAM]], or "Rescue", which cures the Little Sister of her [[BodyHorror sea slug]]-induced possession [[BeingGoodSucks but gives you less]]... ''in theory.'' [[MamaBear Dr. Tenenbaum]] will reward you for saving the Little Sisters with free [[PowersAsPrograms Plasmids]] and bonus ADAM; all things considered (see Second bullet for details) considered, resisting temptation and playing the hero is ultimately just as rewarding, if not more so, than choosing the evil route.
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route. Harvesting every Little Sister grants 280 ADAM which is more than one will get for rescuing. However when you account for the free plasmids and gene tonics you get from Tenenbaum, some of which can only be acquired in this manner, the value of Harvesting disappears entirely; from a rewards perspective, virtue is the superior option. It's especially worth it when you consider the 100G Achievement that comes with rescuing every little sister.
25th Dec '16 7:56:23 PM Kayube
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* ToBeAMaster shows frequently have this. This often plays out with a competitor who believes that [[SecondPlaceIsForLosers winning is more important than anything else]], while our considerably more casual protagonist tries to show him the error of his mentality. Usually by beating him in competition, thus resulting in the protagonist becoming the grand champion after all. It says something about the broken nature of this when protagonists who ''don't'' go on to win the overall competition (for example, in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Ash Ketchum) are written off by fans as {{Failure Hero}}es. They seem to forget that he ''did'' win the Orange Islands League and Battle Frontier, even though they're on a lower tier than the major league competitions. When he won the latter and got a trophy for it, he turned down their offer to become a Frontier Brain so he could continue traveling. Nintendo doesn't seem to have a problem with him winning arcs that aren't adapted from the games.

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* ToBeAMaster shows frequently have this. This often plays out with a competitor who believes that [[SecondPlaceIsForLosers winning is more important than anything else]], while our considerably more casual protagonist tries to show him the error of his mentality. Usually by beating him in competition, thus resulting in the protagonist becoming the grand champion after all. It says something about the broken nature of this when protagonists who ''don't'' go on to win the overall competition (for example, in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Ash Ketchum) are written off by fans as {{Failure Hero}}es. They seem to forget that he ''did'' win the Orange Islands League and Battle Frontier, even though they're on a lower tier than the major league competitions. When he won the latter and got a trophy for it, he turned down their offer to become a Frontier Brain so he could continue traveling. Nintendo doesn't seem to have a problem with him winning arcs that aren't adapted from the games.
25th Dec '16 3:21:28 PM quackytrope
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* Sometimes it's easier to find a good movie or television show on accident, rather than spend hours searching for one on streaming services or in stores.
20th Dec '16 2:36:03 PM dasuberkaiser
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Aang interprets Guru Pathik's statement that he must "let go" of his attachment to Katara in order to intentionally enter his powerful Avatar State as meaning he must abandon his feelings for her if he wants access to all that power. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove love]], a move later applauded by Iroh (only in part, Iroh applauds choosing happiness over raw power, but does not have the answer as to whether or not this is a good choice for saving the world). Inverting the trope, once he is forced to let go anyway, he is immediately defeated. It's played straight by the end of the series when Aang has both mastered the Avatar State (enough to stop himself from landing a killing blow in self defense) and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara. However, giving up on attachment is not actually the same thing as giving up on his actual feelings themselves, a distinction Aang may be too young to grasp.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Aang interprets Guru Pathik's statement that he must "let go" of his attachment to Katara in order to intentionally enter his powerful Avatar State as meaning he must abandon his feelings for her if he wants access to all that power. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove [[ThePowerOfLove love]], a move later applauded by Iroh (only in part, Iroh applauds choosing happiness over raw power, but does not have the answer as to whether or not this is a good choice for saving the world). Inverting the trope, once he is forced to let go anyway, he is immediately defeated. It's played straight by the end of the series when Aang has both mastered the Avatar State (enough to stop himself from landing a killing blow in self defense) and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara. However, giving up on attachment is not actually the same thing as giving up on his actual feelings themselves, a distinction Aang may be too young to grasp.
28th Nov '16 4:24:07 PM Morgenthaler
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** In one episode, Amy is left on an alien planet, dodging medical robots that will kill her unintentionally, until Rory and the Doctor can come and save her. Because of time travel, they find both her present-day self and her future self, who was abandoned for years and became a rather cynical {{badass}} as a result. Throughout the episode, the Doctor insists that both Amys can't be saved and Rory agonizes over which one to rescue, since he loves both and both love him in return. Finally, the Doctor figures out a way to rearrange the TARDIS so that both Amys can be saved. [[spoiler:And then it's horribly, horribly subverted when it turns out the Doctor was lying so he could trick Rory and the present-day Amy to go in the TARDIS and let him lock the future Amy out. Everyone's upset about this, but it's just impossible to save both. The future Amy ends up accepting this and lets the medical robots kill her, as she remembers Rory.]]

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** In one episode, Amy is left on an alien planet, dodging medical robots that will kill her unintentionally, until Rory and the Doctor can come and save her. Because of time travel, they find both her present-day self and her future self, who was abandoned for years and became a rather cynical {{badass}} badass as a result. Throughout the episode, the Doctor insists that both Amys can't be saved and Rory agonizes over which one to rescue, since he loves both and both love him in return. Finally, the Doctor figures out a way to rearrange the TARDIS so that both Amys can be saved. [[spoiler:And then it's horribly, horribly subverted when it turns out the Doctor was lying so he could trick Rory and the present-day Amy to go in the TARDIS and let him lock the future Amy out. Everyone's upset about this, but it's just impossible to save both. The future Amy ends up accepting this and lets the medical robots kill her, as she remembers Rory.]]
13th Oct '16 9:41:39 PM Jgamer
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* At the end of ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', [[spoiler: Okabe has saved the world and the woman he loves, but due to TimeTravel being involved, nobody but him will [[WistfulAmnesia (consciously)]] remember [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold all the hardships and struggles he faced]] to EarnYourHappyEnding. Thus, he figures that Kurisu has probably went back to America and forgotten all about him. However, as he's accepting this since this means that she's alive and happy "doing her own thing", he runs into Kurisu in a chance encounter, Kurisu having stayed in Japan for the past month trying to find Okabe.]]
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