History Main / SweepsWeekLesbianKiss

18th Apr '17 11:13:54 AM arbiter099
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There's one other explanation for the lack of outrage over the most recent Sweeps Saphistry, and that's that people are ''losing interest'' in women making out in prime time. Since the mid-2000's, the lesbian sweeps kiss seems to be getting increasingly diminishing returns in the ratings. The [=LGBT=] community is no longer desperate for whatever non-negative representation they can get, and critics are no longer impressed by a showrunner's "bravery" by including it. Further, when you can see far more [[{{Twincest}} bizarre]] things on Website/YouTube (to say nothing of [[TheInternetIsForPorn other corners]] [[ShockSite of the Web]]), and far more extreme or daring things on non-network television, the SweepsWeekLesbianKiss is clearly in danger of becoming a DiscreditedTrope.

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There's one other explanation for the lack of outrage over the most recent Sweeps Saphistry, and that's that people are ''losing interest'' in women making out in prime time. Since the mid-2000's, the lesbian sweeps kiss seems to be getting increasingly diminishing returns in the ratings. The [=LGBT=] community is no longer desperate for whatever non-negative representation they can get, and critics are no longer impressed by a showrunner's "bravery" by including it. Further, when you can see far more [[{{Twincest}} bizarre]] things on Website/YouTube (to say nothing of [[TheInternetIsForPorn other corners]] [[ShockSite of the Web]]), and far more extreme or daring things on non-network television, the SweepsWeekLesbianKiss Sweeps Week Lesbian Kiss is clearly in danger of becoming a DiscreditedTrope.
9th Feb '17 10:30:17 PM Pichu-kun
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* For cheerleading practice in ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'', Veronica kisses Betty as a part of their "big finish". Cheryl however is unimpressed and outright says "faux lesbian kissing hasn't been taboo since 1994".
9th Jan '17 6:06:34 AM Rognik
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* ''Series/BabylonFive'' mostly averted this trope; the lesbian relationship between Ivanova and Talia Winters had no on-screen kiss and was completely understandable based on their characters. After the relationship was revealed, however, Talia was PutOnABus [[spoiler: and later suffered a BusCrash due to disagreements with her real life actress; there's a left over ChekhovsGun saying she will come back]].
* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' did a textbook example recently. In what is perhaps a sign that this trope is starting to become [[DiscreditedTrope discredited]], both lesbian and mainstream reviewers responded with a yawn and a "Seriously? In 2009?" Viewers, apparently, weren't impressed, either.

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* ''Series/BabylonFive'' mostly averted this trope; the lesbian relationship between Ivanova and Talia Winters had no on-screen kiss and was completely understandable based on their characters. After the relationship was revealed, however, Talia was PutOnABus [[spoiler: and later suffered a BusCrash due to disagreements with her real life actress; there's a left over leftover ChekhovsGun saying she will would come back]].
* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'' did a textbook example recently.example. In what is perhaps a sign that this trope is starting to become [[DiscreditedTrope discredited]], both lesbian and mainstream reviewers responded with a yawn and a "Seriously? In 2009?" Viewers, apparently, weren't impressed, either.



* Beautifully averted by ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', where Willow and Tara's first kiss was neither gratuitous nor shown in the previews. (First on-screen kiss: the characters had been a couple for almost a year at that point.) Not only that but it appeared on a WhamEpisode that was about something extremely, disturbingly different.

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* Beautifully averted by ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', where Willow and Tara's first kiss was neither gratuitous nor shown in the previews. (First on-screen kiss: the characters had been a couple for almost a year at that point.) Not only that but it appeared on a WhamEpisode that was about something extremely, disturbingly different. Nor were either character written off for quite a while afterwards.



** A Sweeps Week Lesbian Hookup (since the characters were never shown to actually kiss, but we do see them both pre- and post-coital) occurred in "I Do" between Santana (an out lesbian) and [[spoiler: Quinn]], now a guest star. Though to be fair to the show, the episode also had Finn and Rachel and Kurt and Blaine, two very popular broken up couples, hook up as well in what was clearly a fan tease, so the show wasn't just using the lesbian hook up for ratings.

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** A Sweeps Week Lesbian Hookup (since the characters were never shown to actually kiss, but we do see them both pre- and post-coital) occurred in "I Do" between Santana (an out lesbian) and [[spoiler: Quinn]], [[spoiler:Quinn]], now a guest star. Though to be fair to the show, the episode also had Finn and Rachel and Kurt and Blaine, two very popular broken up couples, hook up as well in what was clearly a fan tease, so the show wasn't just using the lesbian hook up for ratings.
29th Dec '16 10:51:57 AM nombretomado
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* Spoofed by DavidLetterman on the Late Show.

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* Spoofed by DavidLetterman Creator/DavidLetterman on the Late Show.
10th Nov '16 5:07:43 PM WaggishPony
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* ''Series/LALaw'': New BiTheWay lawyer C.J. Lamb kissed series regular Abby Perkins in the parking lot in one UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}} episode; they rarely referenced it again and C.J.'s actress, Amanda Donohoe, left the cast the next season.

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* ''Series/LALaw'': New BiTheWay lawyer C.J. Lamb kissed series regular Abby Perkins in the parking lot in one UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}} episode; they rarely referenced it again and C.J.'s actress, Amanda Donohoe, left both actresses were gone by the cast end of the next following season.
13th Apr '16 7:51:32 AM Morgenthaler
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16th Feb '16 9:56:20 PM SunMushan
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** WinonaRyder showed up as an old friend with a crush on Rachel. Winona kissed Rachel, then promptly disappeared from the series forever, her purpose fulfilled... or perhaps not, since the episode didn't even win its timeslot (wich may be explained that it was because both were really lame kisses).

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** WinonaRyder showed up as an old friend with a crush on Rachel. Winona kissed Rachel, then promptly disappeared from the series forever, her purpose fulfilled... or perhaps not, since the episode didn't even win its timeslot (wich (which may be explained that it was because both were really lame kisses).
16th Feb '16 11:42:22 AM erforce
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Often classified as {{fanservice}}, this is mostly just a RatingsStunt, calculated to get more viewers while creating a manageable amount of blowback from the MoralGuardians, who, while generally disapproving of lesbianism, have a sufficient DoubleStandard concerning depictions of male and female homosexuality that they generally save their outrage for, you know, ''serious'' dangers to society, like ''{{Dogma}}'' or ''BrokebackMountain''...

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Often classified as {{fanservice}}, this is mostly just a RatingsStunt, calculated to get more viewers while creating a manageable amount of blowback from the MoralGuardians, who, while generally disapproving of lesbianism, have a sufficient DoubleStandard concerning depictions of male and female homosexuality that they generally save their outrage for, you know, ''serious'' dangers to society, like ''{{Dogma}}'' ''Film/{{Dogma}}'' or ''BrokebackMountain''...
''Film/BrokebackMountain''...
15th Feb '16 8:47:29 PM Adept
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* Spoofed in the ''Series/GrossePointe'' episode "Passion Fish," where SarahMichelleGellar only wants to do one to snag an Emmy nomination but gets MistakenForGay for wanting to do it in the wake of kissing Selma Blair in ''CruelIntentions''.

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* Spoofed in the ''Series/GrossePointe'' episode "Passion Fish," where SarahMichelleGellar Creator/SarahMichelleGellar only wants to do one to snag an Emmy nomination but gets MistakenForGay for wanting to do it in the wake of kissing Selma Blair in ''CruelIntentions''.
''Film/CruelIntentions''.
29th Jan '16 5:42:08 PM GrammarNavi
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Well, it must be {{Sweeps}}.

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Well, it must be {{Sweeps}}.
UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}}.



* ''Series/LALaw'': New BiTheWay lawyer C.J. Lamb kissed series regular Abby Perkins in the parking lot in one {{Sweeps}} episode; they rarely referenced it again and C.J.'s actress, Amanda Donohoe, left the cast the next season.

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* ''Series/LALaw'': New BiTheWay lawyer C.J. Lamb kissed series regular Abby Perkins in the parking lot in one {{Sweeps}} UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}} episode; they rarely referenced it again and C.J.'s actress, Amanda Donohoe, left the cast the next season.



** Curiously, it had its "lesbian" kiss a couple weeks ''before'' {{Sweeps}} when a female villain with a GreenRocks-powered kiss that causes face-melting hallucinations needs to do something about a witness (Lana, of course). She, ahem, uses her power on Lana, an act that seems to disgust both of them. One could speculate that the reason this episode didn't make it to {{Sweeps}} was that it simply wasn't very good FanService.

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** Curiously, it had its "lesbian" kiss a couple weeks ''before'' {{Sweeps}} UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}} when a female villain with a GreenRocks-powered kiss that causes face-melting hallucinations needs to do something about a witness (Lana, of course). She, ahem, uses her power on Lana, an act that seems to disgust both of them. One could speculate that the reason this episode didn't make it to {{Sweeps}} UsefulNotes/{{Sweeps}} was that it simply wasn't very good FanService.
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