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* In both ''Franchise/DragonQuest'' and ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'', swamps deplete HitPoints and sometimes inflict the "Poison" StandardStatusEffect.

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* In both ''Franchise/DragonQuest'' and ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}'', swamps deplete HitPoints and sometimes inflict the "Poison" StandardStatusEffect.
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* The ''[[TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man's]]'' home dimension is described by some to be a marshy DarkWorld.

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* The ''[[TheSlenderManMythos ''[[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man's]]'' home dimension is described by some to be a marshy DarkWorld.
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* The Bayou in Disney's ''Disney/PrincessAndTheFrog'' looks rather murky and is infested with nasty crocodiles.
** On the other hand, it also plays host to Louis, Ray (and his massive firefly family), and Mama Odie - all friendly. Not to mention, a number of sweet and romantic scenes take place in the Bayou (Tiana and Navine cooking for everyone, or dancing together; their wedding; and [[spoiler: Ray appearing as a star in the sky next to Evangeline after his death]]). Plus, it hosts no less than four musical numbers, all positive in nature (three upbeat songs - including a rousing gospel number - and a lovely moonlit ballad).

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* The Bayou in Disney's ''Disney/PrincessAndTheFrog'' looks rather murky and is infested with nasty crocodiles.
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crocodiles. On the other hand, it also plays host to Louis, Ray (and his massive firefly family), and Mama Odie - -- all friendly. Not to mention, a number of sweet and romantic scenes take place in the Bayou (Tiana and Navine cooking for everyone, or dancing together; their wedding; and [[spoiler: Ray appearing as a star in the sky next to Evangeline after his death]]). Plus, it hosts no less than four musical numbers, all positive in nature (three upbeat songs - -- including a rousing gospel number - -- and a lovely moonlit ballad).



* The ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' lived in the swampy jungles of the Brazilian rainforest.
** The film was actually shot in Wakulla County, Florida... an area known for its mosquito-infested swampland.

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* The ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' lived in the swampy jungles of the Brazilian rainforest.
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rainforest. The film was actually shot in Wakulla County, Florida... an area known for its mosquito-infested swampland.



* The swamp world of Dagobah in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' certainly looks evil, and there's at least one big, nasty swamp creature interested in eating you, but it [[SubvertedTrope also]] is the home of [[BadassGrandpa Y]][[TheMentor o]][[OlderAndWiser d]][[OldMaster a]].
** It also contains the strange tree-cave, which holds an unusual presence of the Dark Side of the Force.

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* The swamp world of Dagobah in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' certainly looks evil, and there's at least one big, nasty swamp creature interested in eating you, but and it [[SubvertedTrope also]] is the home of [[BadassGrandpa Y]][[TheMentor o]][[OlderAndWiser d]][[OldMaster a]].
** It also
contains the a strange tree-cave, cave which holds an unusual presence of the Dark Side of the Force.Force. On the other hand, it [[SubvertedTrope also]] is the home of [[BigGood Yoda]].



* While the actual swampland in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'' is never seen, the King of the Swamp Castle is suspiciously eager to get the hell out of there. So much that he's willing to marry his son to a hideous princess in order to get his hand on her huge... tracts of land, and to later try to adopt her by killing both his son and her father.
** It is kind of played with. The King tried building the castle atop the swamp just to show his friends that he can make a castle strong enough. It sank into the swamp. He built a second one. It sank into the swamp. Then he built a third one. That one burnt down, fell over and sank into the swamp. The he built a ''fourth'' one. That one stayed up. Unsurprisingly, he is kinda proud on the fourth castle's toughness, although [[FridgeBrilliance it's entirely possible]] that the only reason the fourth castle didn't sink into the swamp is because it's sitting on top of the sunken ruins of the previous three.

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* While the actual swampland in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'' is never seen, the King of the Swamp Castle is suspiciously eager to get the hell out of there. So much that he's willing to marry his son to a hideous princess in order to get his hand on her huge... tracts of land, and to later try to adopt her by killing both his son and her father.
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father. It is kind of played with. The King tried building the castle atop the swamp just to show his friends that he can could make a castle strong enough. It sank into the swamp. He built a second one. It sank into the swamp. Then he built a third one. That one burnt down, fell over and sank into the swamp. The he built a ''fourth'' one. That one stayed up. Unsurprisingly, he is kinda proud on the fourth castle's toughness, although [[FridgeBrilliance it's entirely possible]] that the only reason the fourth castle didn't sink into the swamp is because it's sitting on top of the sunken ruins of the previous three.
2nd Apr '17 2:23:03 PM Theriocephalus
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* Swamp cards in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' produce black {{mana}}, and while Black is not officially an evil color, it does remain tied to unpleasant concepts like plague, giant insects, fungus, demons and the undead -- all things that gain power from swamps in the game. There are also [[http://magiccards.info/m10/en/86.html Bog Wraiths]], [[WillOTheWisp Will o' the Wisps]] and numerous other horrible swamp creatures. The designers insist that ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[DarkIsNotEvil does not have an evil color]], but black does represent death, greed, and amorality. It is also the color that (until recently) contains all the [[AlwaysChaoticEvil classically evil]] creatures, including nearly every undead monster you can name, demons, cosmic horrors, etc--and swamps are where black mana comes from..

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* Swamp cards in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' produce black {{mana}}, and while Black is not officially an evil color, it does remain tied to unpleasant concepts like plague, giant insects, fungus, demons and the undead -- all things that gain power from swamps in the game.{{mana}}. There are also [[http://magiccards.info/m10/en/86.html Bog Wraiths]], [[WillOTheWisp Will o' the Wisps]] and numerous other horrible swamp creatures. The designers insist that ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[DarkIsNotEvil does not have an evil color]], but black does represent death, greed, and amorality. It is also the color that (until recently) contains all the [[AlwaysChaoticEvil classically evil]] creatures, including nearly every undead monster you can name, demons, cosmic horrors, etc--and etc., and has a strong association with plague and disease -- and swamps are where black mana comes from..from...



* The FinalBoss of VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden is fought in a swamp. Units standing on the swamp tiles take some damage when their army's phase start. The FinalBoss in question is an [[EldritchAbomination "Dark God"]] named [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Doma Doma]].

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* The FinalBoss of VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden'' is fought in a swamp. Units standing on the swamp tiles take some damage when their army's phase start. The FinalBoss in question is an [[EldritchAbomination "Dark God"]] named [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Doma Doma]].



* Sierra's ''VideoGame/ConquestsOfTheLongbow'' PlayedWith the trope in the Monastery in the Fens. While the Fens were not inherently evil--at least not in any obvious way--the black-robed monks that lived there almost definitely were.

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* Sierra's ''VideoGame/ConquestsOfTheLongbow'' PlayedWith the trope in the Monastery in the Fens. While the Fens were not inherently evil--at least not in any obvious way--the way -- the black-robed monks that lived there almost definitely were.



* On ''[[{{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}} Challenge of the Superfriends]]'', the LegionOfDoom is headquartered in "The Swamp." It is always referred to as "The Swamp," in such a way as to imply that there is only the one swamp in the world (in fact, at least one episode contains a minor plot hole if you assume that there ''are'' other swamps). In one episode, the Legion hassles a witch they spot in The Swamp, only to discover that she works for an entity even more evil than they are, who also dwells in The Swamp.
* Froggy Bottom Bog from WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic isn't so bad. Just avoid the giant hydra that lives there.

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* On ''[[{{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}} Challenge of the Superfriends]]'', the LegionOfDoom is headquartered in "The Swamp." It is always referred to as "The Swamp," in such a way as to imply that there is only the one swamp in the world (in fact, at least one episode contains a minor plot hole if you assume that there ''are'' other swamps). In one episode, the Legion hassles a witch they spot in The Swamp, only to discover that she works for an entity even more evil than they are, who also dwells in The the Swamp.
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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Froggy Bottom Bog from WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic from isn't so bad. Just avoid the giant hydra that lives there.



* Invoked metaphorically in-universe in ''TheSimpsons'' episode "Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington," in her essay "Cesspool on the Potomac."

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* Invoked metaphorically in-universe in ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Mr. "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E2MrLisaGoesToWashington Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington," Washington]]", in her essay "Cesspool on the Potomac.Potomac", where -- after witnessing the corruption in the U.S. Senate -- she compares the stink of the swamp Washington D.C. was built on with the stink of corruption that fills it now.
--> '''Lisa''': "The city of Washington was built on a stagnant swamp some 200 years ago and very little has changed. It stank then and it stinks now.
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2nd Apr '17 2:08:23 PM Theriocephalus
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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', the Dead Marshes feature the usual treacherous footing, constant fog, and corpse candles. There were also horrible, pallid faces floating just beneath the water's surface. Looking at the faces too closely would cause you to become entranced and fall into the water.

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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', the ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
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Dead Marshes feature the usual treacherous footing, constant fog, and corpse candles. There were also horrible, pallid faces floating just beneath the water's surface. Looking at the faces too closely would cause you to become entranced and fall into the water.



* ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' both uses and averts this with the swamps of Nyissa. When the main cast goes through them, they're hopelessly depressing, sinister, astonishingly dangerous, and full of a variety of narcotic compounds and poisonous plants. Later, they pick up a Nyissan ally, the eunuch Sadi, who is perfectly fond of his homeland and disheartened when they come across a cursed swamp. When asked why, he explains that a swamp is green and verdant with life, but that ''this'' particular swamp is nothing but death and decay.

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* ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' both uses and averts this with the ''Literature/TheBelgariad''
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swamps of Nyissa.Nyissa both use and avert this. When the main cast goes through them, they're hopelessly depressing, sinister, astonishingly dangerous, and full of a variety of narcotic compounds and poisonous plants. Later, they pick up a Nyissan ally, the eunuch Sadi, who is perfectly fond of his homeland and disheartened when they come across a cursed swamp. When asked why, he explains that a swamp is green and verdant with life, but that ''this'' particular swamp is nothing but death and decay.



* ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'': The [[Literature/TheSwordOfShannara Mist Marsh]] is haunted by a Kraken-esque Wraith. The [[Literature/ElfstonesOfShannara Matted Brakes]] are a hellhole populated by The Things, which you will not see until they are on you. And the In Ju...the In Ju's on Morrowindl, a one-island CrapsackWorld, and still manages to be one of the worst places you could ever go.

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* ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'': The [[Literature/TheSwordOfShannara Mist Marsh]] is haunted by a Kraken-esque Wraith. The [[Literature/ElfstonesOfShannara Matted Brakes]] are a hellhole populated by The Things, which you will not see until they are on you. And the In Ju... the In Ju's on Morrowindl, a one-island CrapsackWorld, and still manages to be one of the worst places you could ever go.



* Book 4 of Literature/CodexAlera has a fairly realistic version, the swamps of Kalare are muddy, insect-ridden, and hard to navigate, but the only real exceptional danger is the giant lizards that travel in packs. It's worth noting that said swamps are in the region controlled by the major human antagonist of the series.

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* Book 4 of Literature/CodexAlera ''Literature/CodexAlera'' has a fairly realistic version, the swamps of Kalare are muddy, insect-ridden, and hard to navigate, but the only real exceptional danger is the giant lizards that travel in packs. It's worth noting that said swamps are in the region controlled by the major human antagonist of the series.



* Swamp cards in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' produce black {{mana}}. There are also [[http://magiccards.info/m10/en/86.html Bog Wraiths]], [[WillOTheWisp Will o' the Wisps]] and numerous other horrible swamp creatures. The designers insist that ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[DarkIsNotEvil does not have an evil color]], but black does represent death, greed, and amorality. It is also the color that (until recently) contains all the [[AlwaysChaoticEvil classically evil]] creatures, including nearly every undead monster you can name, demons, cosmic horrors, etc--and swamps are where black mana comes from..

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* Swamp cards in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' produce black {{mana}}.{{mana}}, and while Black is not officially an evil color, it does remain tied to unpleasant concepts like plague, giant insects, fungus, demons and the undead -- all things that gain power from swamps in the game. There are also [[http://magiccards.info/m10/en/86.html Bog Wraiths]], [[WillOTheWisp Will o' the Wisps]] and numerous other horrible swamp creatures. The designers insist that ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' [[DarkIsNotEvil does not have an evil color]], but black does represent death, greed, and amorality. It is also the color that (until recently) contains all the [[AlwaysChaoticEvil classically evil]] creatures, including nearly every undead monster you can name, demons, cosmic horrors, etc--and swamps are where black mana comes from..



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the otherwise benign kingdom of Bretonnia has Mousillon, which is a swamp full of inbred criminals, mutants, Chaos-worshippers and undead. The Old World's swamps also home to the Fimir, a race of monstrous, one-eyed LizardFolk that worship Chaos.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'':
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otherwise benign kingdom of Bretonnia has the Dukedom of Mousillon, which is a swamp ruled by vampires and full of inbred criminals, mutants, Chaos-worshippers Chaos-worshippers, necromancers and undead. It says a lot that even the AlwaysChaoticEvil Beastmen avoid this place.
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The Old World's swamps also home to the Fimir, a race of monstrous, one-eyed LizardFolk that worship Chaos.
** The Blighted Marsh, in the northwest of Tilea, is a fetid maze of sluggish channels and pools of unclean water dotted with stands of twisted black reeds, all of it festering with disease and shrouded in reeking fog. At its center sits Skavenblight, the crowded, flithy and half-sunken capital of the Skaven RatMen, one of the vilest races in the Old World.
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** While the Black Marsh in the southeast of Tamriel is not necessarily evil, it is populated by [[LizardFolk Argonians]] who, despite being friendly and benevolent, are fiercely territorial and will never let the Empire rule them.
** The Bitter Coast from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' is pretty inhospitable.
** The Shivering Isles expansion for ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', realm of Sheogorath the MadGod, also deserve mention, as it is split in two to represent the dual nature of madness. Dementia, the southern half of the isles represents the darker aspects of madness, and consists mostly of swampland.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the hold of Hjaalmarch consists mainly of cold marshes containing aggressive Slaughterfish, venom-spitting {{giant spider}}s, the occasional [[BigCreepyCrawlies Chaurus]], necromancers, vampires, and Draugr-infested tombs. [[BadNewsInAGoodWay On the bright side, this all keeps the bandit population down.]]

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** While the The Black Marsh in the southeast of Tamriel is not (aka Argonia) isn't necessarily evil, it "evil" per se, but is populated by [[LizardFolk Argonians]] who, despite being friendly full of diseases, poisonous life forms, sentient trees, and benevolent, the only native humanoid inhabitants are the disease-resistant, fiercely territorial LizardFolk Argonians who can breathe underwater and will never let the Empire rule them.
** The Bitter Coast
operate under a borderline BlueAndOrangeMorality, at least from the perspective of the other races. Even [[GodEmperor Tiber Septim]] didn't bother conquering Black Marsh completely, just capturing a few border towns (where the human races could actually live) and calling it a win.
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''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' Morrowind]]'', the Bitter Coast is pretty inhospitable.
a sparsely populated swampy quagmire dotted with smuggler dens, bandit caves, and worse.
** The Shivering Isles ''Shivering Isles'' expansion for ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', realm of Sheogorath the MadGod, also deserve mention, as it is split in two to represent the dual nature of madness. Dementia, the southern half of the isles represents the darker aspects of madness, and consists mostly of swampland.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the hold of Hjaalmarch consists mainly of cold marshes containing aggressive Slaughterfish, venom-spitting {{giant spider}}s, the occasional [[BigCreepyCrawlies Chaurus]], necromancers, vampires, and Draugr-infested tombs. tombs, and is a favored hideout for necromancers and vampires. [[BadNewsInAGoodWay On the bright side, side]], this all keeps the bandit population down.]]
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* ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland'': Jones distinguishes two kinds of unpleasant wetlands that regularly show up in unoriginal fantasy fiction: Bogs, which are essentially patches of deep mud put in your way to slow you down when being chased by Evil in order to provide quick dramatic tension; and Marshes, which show up later and involve more of the traditional swampland dangers -- swarms of insects, filthy water, mazelike channels and so on. %%The capitalization reflects how Jones writes these words in the book.
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* In ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', the fifth circle of Hell is described as a foul swamp where the wrathful tear each other apart and the sullen lay gurgling beneath the surface, making this trope OlderThanPrint.
28th Feb '17 2:33:16 PM Theriocephalus
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* Heck, even major cities like [[http://hauntsandhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/legend-of-ape-boy.html Philadelphia]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heinz_National_Wildlife_Refuge_at_Tinicum aren't]] [[http://books.google.com/books?id=bfaultPxl18C&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=ape+boy+tinicum&source=bl&ots=Tzc1avs2d2&sig=4MixjRCR6sYZY5Jc-T9qZv7Saq0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZOTvU5PvE4P5yQTopYIo&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ape%20boy%20tinicum&f=false immune]] to this.
* A Portuguese expression for things going wrong is "the cow went to the swamp" - after all, when a bovine gets bogged down, it's ''really'' hard to take it out of the mud.

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* Heck, even major cities like [[http://hauntsandhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/legend-of-ape-boy.html Philadelphia]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heinz_National_Wildlife_Refuge_at_Tinicum aren't]] [[http://books.google.com/books?id=bfaultPxl18C&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=ape+boy+tinicum&source=bl&ots=Tzc1avs2d2&sig=4MixjRCR6sYZY5Jc-T9qZv7Saq0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZOTvU5PvE4P5yQTopYIo&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ape%20boy%20tinicum&f=false immune]] to this.
this. Supposedly, the Tinicum Watershed Wildlife Preserve -- a stretch of protected swampland in and around Philadelphia -- is home to a monster called Ape Boy. Apparently, Ape Boy used to be a regular if extremely ugly kid during colonial times [[KidsAreCruel who was taunted mercilessly by the other children for his looks]], eventually fleeing into the swamps to seek refuge, where he mutated into a red-furred, apelike creature. Since then, the swamps have been drained and developed, with the park being all that's left, but Ape Boy is said to be still around, waiting in the swamp.
* A Portuguese expression for things going wrong is "the cow went to the swamp" - -- after all, when a bovine gets bogged down, it's ''really'' hard to take it out of the mud.
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the otherwise benign kingdom of Bretonnia has Mousillon, which is a swamp full of inbred criminals, mutants, Chaos-worshippers and undead.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the otherwise benign kingdom of Bretonnia has Mousillon, which is a swamp full of inbred criminals, mutants, Chaos-worshippers and undead.
undead. The Old World's swamps also home to the Fimir, a race of monstrous, one-eyed LizardFolk that worship Chaos.



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** ''VideoGame/Fallout3'''s "Point Lookout" DLC takes you to the titular coastal village in Maryland, which turns out to be LovecraftCountry. The terrain is a maze of dead trees, and is full of not only Ghouls, Mirelurks and killer Robots, but deformed, inbred Swampfolk [[DemonicSpiders who automatically dole out 35 points of damage regardless of what armor you're wearing]]. Even before the [[ApocalypseHow Great War]], Point Lookout was a miserable place - there was a "pint-sized killer" on the loose, detainment camps for Chinese-Americans, a cult centered around a TomeOfEldritchLore, and the natives were friendly enough to take an axe to a downed Air Force pilot stuck in a tree by his parachute. Two hundred years of nuclear runoff just put the icing on the cake.

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** ''VideoGame/Fallout3'''s "Point Lookout" DLC takes you to the titular coastal village in Maryland, which turns out to be LovecraftCountry. The terrain is a maze of dead trees, and is full of not only Ghouls, Mirelurks and killer Robots, but deformed, inbred Swampfolk [[DemonicSpiders who automatically dole out 35 points of damage regardless of what armor you're wearing]]. Even before the [[ApocalypseHow Great War]], Point Lookout was a miserable place - -- there was a "pint-sized killer" on the loose, detainment camps for Chinese-Americans, a cult centered around a TomeOfEldritchLore, and the natives were friendly enough to take an axe to a downed Air Force pilot stuck in a tree by his parachute. Two hundred years of nuclear runoff just put the icing on the cake.



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* Webcomic/{{Roza}} [[http://www.junglestudio.com/roza/?date=2011-05-18 thinks otherwise, and gets an explanation.]]

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* Webcomic/{{Roza}} [[http://www.junglestudio.com/roza/?date=2011-05-18 thinks otherwise, and gets an explanation.]]
explanation]]. The trees walk and shift at night to change the path and lead travelers to their doom, the water hides holes that can swallow men whole, and the swamp itself is haunted and full of illusions and restless spirits -- and there's worse creatures in the mist.



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