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6th Oct '15 11:05:21 PM jormis29
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6th Oct '15 11:04:50 PM jormis29
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* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".

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* ''AsTimeGoesBy'': Lionel is detained while trying to find Jean. Jean, who is angry at him, refuses to vouch.
* The player could easily be arrested for "acting suspiciously" in ''LegendsOfValour''.
* In one of the most famous sketches from ''NotTheNineOClockNews ''(written before the repeal of the sus law), Constable Savage is reprimanded for making arrests for "Looking At Me In A Funny Way", "Walking On The Cracks In The Pavement", "Smelling Of Foreign Food" and "Possession Of An Offensive Wife", among many, many other charges he has brought... against the same man. Said man is, at the time of the reprimand, being held on a charge of "Possession Of Curly Black Hair And Thick Lips". The punchline has Savage transferred to the SPG. The Special Patrol Group was a public disorder control unit implicated in the death of a civilian in 1979, discredited after investigation and disbanded in 1986.

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* ''AsTimeGoesBy'': ''Series/AsTimeGoesBy'': Lionel is detained while trying to find Jean. Jean, who is angry at him, refuses to vouch.
* The player could easily be arrested for "acting suspiciously" in ''LegendsOfValour''.
* In one of the most famous sketches from ''NotTheNineOClockNews ''Series/NotTheNineOClockNews ''(written before the repeal of the sus law), Constable Savage is reprimanded for making arrests for "Looking At Me In A Funny Way", "Walking On The Cracks In The Pavement", "Smelling Of Foreign Food" and "Possession Of An Offensive Wife", among many, many other charges he has brought... against the same man. Said man is, at the time of the reprimand, being held on a charge of "Possession Of Curly Black Hair And Thick Lips". The punchline has Savage transferred to the SPG. The Special Patrol Group was a public disorder control unit implicated in the death of a civilian in 1979, discredited after investigation and disbanded in 1986.



* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".

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* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".player could easily be arrested for "acting suspiciously" in ''LegendsOfValour''.
6th Oct '15 9:18:38 AM R1ck
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Outside of children's television, this trope is basically unheard of in the United States, possibly because Americans have enough cultural awareness of police abuses to put this beyond the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: that sort of thing is considered either to cross the line into fantasy territory (''TheSimpsons'', for example) or to be [[CorruptHick a genuinely sinister situation]] on U.S. TV, but not across ThePond. Meanwhile, in 2008, at least two UK political parties are promising to free the police of accountability and restore their power to arrest whomever they [[strike: like]] don't like whenever they like.

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Outside of children's television, this trope is basically unheard of in the United States, possibly because Americans have enough cultural awareness of police abuses to put this beyond the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: that sort of thing is considered either to cross the line into fantasy territory (''TheSimpsons'', for example) or to be [[CorruptHick a genuinely sinister situation]] on U.S. TV, but not across ThePond. Meanwhile, in 2008, at least two UK political parties are promising to free the police of accountability and restore their power to arrest whomever they [[strike: like]] don't like whenever they like.
10th Jan '15 10:10:16 PM Alberich
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Outside of children's television, this trope is basically unheard of in the United States, possibly because Americans have enough cultural awareness of police abuses to put this beyond the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: that sort of thing is considered either to cross the line into fantasy territory (''TheSimpsons'', for example) or to be [[CorruptHick a genuinely sinister situation]] on U.S. TV, but not across ThePond. Meanwhile, in 2008, at least two UK political parties are promising to free the police of accountability and restore their power to arrest whomever they [[strike: like]] don't like whenever they like.

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Outside of children's television, this trope is basically unheard of in the United States, possibly because Americans have enough cultural awareness of police abuses to put this beyond the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: that sort of thing is considered either to cross the line into fantasy territory (''TheSimpsons'', for example) or to be [[CorruptHick a genuinely sinister situation]] on U.S. TV, but not across ThePond. Meanwhile, in 2008, at least two UK political parties are promising to free the police of accountability and restore their power to arrest whomever they [[strike: like]] don't like whenever they like.like.

In American constitutional law, police can stop a person and frisk for weapons based on a "reasonable suspicion that criminal activity may be afoot" (a so-called ''Terry'' stop). To do a more thorough search, they must have probable cause and arrest the person, or else get consent.
25th Jul '12 9:47:56 AM FELH2
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* ''AsTimeGoesBy'': Lionel is detained while trying to find Jean. Jean, who is angry at him, refuses to vouch.

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* ''AsTimeGoesBy'': Lionel is detained while trying to find Jean. Jean, who is angry at him, refuses to vouch.



* In one of the most famous sketches from ''[[NotTheNineOClockNews Not The Nine O'Clock News ]]''(written before the repeal of the sus law), Constable Savage is reprimanded for making arrests for "Looking At Me In A Funny Way", "Walking On The Cracks In The Pavement", "Smelling Of Foreign Food" and "Possession Of An Offensive Wife", among many, many other charges he has brought... against the same man. Said man is, at the time of the reprimand, being held on a charge of "Possession Of Curly Black Hair And Thick Lips". The punchline has Savage transferred to the SPG. The Special Patrol Group was a public disorder control unit implicated in the death of a civilian in 1979, discredited after investigation and disbanded in 1986.

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* In one of the most famous sketches from ''[[NotTheNineOClockNews Not The Nine O'Clock News ]]''(written ''NotTheNineOClockNews ''(written before the repeal of the sus law), Constable Savage is reprimanded for making arrests for "Looking At Me In A Funny Way", "Walking On The Cracks In The Pavement", "Smelling Of Foreign Food" and "Possession Of An Offensive Wife", among many, many other charges he has brought... against the same man. Said man is, at the time of the reprimand, being held on a charge of "Possession Of Curly Black Hair And Thick Lips". The punchline has Savage transferred to the SPG. The Special Patrol Group was a public disorder control unit implicated in the death of a civilian in 1979, discredited after investigation and disbanded in 1986.



* The ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".

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* The ''{{Discworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".
8th Mar '12 11:29:13 AM DaibhidC
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-->'''Inspector''': Is he a coloured gentleman?
-->'''Savage''': ''(shocked)'' Hadn't noticed, sir.
8th Mar '12 11:27:32 AM DaibhidC
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* The ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' notes that Ankh-Morpork law (a parody of English law) has "a whole quiverful of offences available to a policeman who wishes to pass the time of day with a citizen, ranging from Loitering With Intent through Obstruction to Lingering While Being the Wrong Colour/Shape/Species/Sex ".
26th Feb '12 4:29:10 PM Jake
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* ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall'': James Herriot is forced to go down to the station to vouch for one of his clients when he is arrested for wearing a kerchief over his nose and mouth. (Herriot had suggested it to help the client cope with his overly sensitive sense of smell.)
** Just to clarify, ''All Creatures Great and Small'' was set in the 1930s and 40s, so the sus law was still on the books.

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* ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall'': James Herriot is forced to go down to the station to vouch for one of his clients when he is arrested for wearing a kerchief over his nose and mouth. (Herriot Mr Herriot had suggested it to help the client cope with a particularly foul-smelling task to undertake at his overly sensitive sense of smell.)
** Just to clarify, ''All Creatures Great
farm, and Small'' he'd forgotten he was set wearing it. Subverted in that despite the 1930s and 40s, so story taking place when the old sus law was still on the books.books, walking around with your face masked was and still is covered under Going Equipped To Commit A Crime.
25th Jan '12 4:25:22 PM FordPrefect
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Though the law was repealed in 1981 due to extreme resentment culminating in a riot inspired by gratuitous use of the law, it remains part of the English cultural consciousness, to the point that an entirely reasonable element in (especially lighter) television shows is that a person can be arrested for "acting suspiciously". Given the predilection toward quirkiness among the sector of the British public appearing in television shows, it is a bit surprising that the British police ever have any time arrest actual criminals. If you believe the [[BritishNewspapers Daily Mail]], they don't.

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Though the law was repealed in 1981 due to extreme resentment culminating in a riot inspired by gratuitous use of the law, it remains part of the English cultural consciousness, to the point that an entirely reasonable element in (especially lighter) television shows is that a person can be arrested for "acting suspiciously". Given the predilection toward quirkiness among the sector of the British public appearing in television shows, it is a bit surprising that the British police ever have any time to arrest actual criminals. If you believe the [[BritishNewspapers Daily Mail]], they don't.
15th Oct '11 7:22:07 PM Nightsky
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* ''AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall'': James Herriot is forced to go down to the station to vouch for one of his clients when he is arrested for wearing a kerchief over his nose and mouth. (Herriot had suggested it to help the client cope with his overly sensitive sense of smell.)

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* ''AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall'': ''Series/AllCreaturesGreatAndSmall'': James Herriot is forced to go down to the station to vouch for one of his clients when he is arrested for wearing a kerchief over his nose and mouth. (Herriot had suggested it to help the client cope with his overly sensitive sense of smell.)
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