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2nd Dec '16 10:45:09 AM Underachiever
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* Lampshaded repeatedly in the ''Literature/DresdenFiles'': Waldo Butters, Harry's go-to person for medical emergencies, is a ''mortician'' who in multiple books explicitly points out that he wasn't trained for this and the patient in question would really be better off in a proper hospital. He'll grudgingly accept when this isn't practical for reasons of secrecy or on account of a wizard patient's WalkingTechbane status, but happy about it he's not.

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* Lampshaded repeatedly in the ''Literature/DresdenFiles'': Waldo Butters, Harry's go-to person for medical emergencies, is a ''mortician'' who in multiple books explicitly points out that he wasn't trained for this and the patient in question would really be better off in a proper hospital. He'll grudgingly accept when this isn't practical for reasons of secrecy or on account of a wizard patient's WalkingTechbane status, and he actually ends up doing pretty good work in spite of his protests, but happy about it he's not.
2nd Dec '16 10:41:31 AM Underachiever
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* Lampshaded at one point in the ''Literature/DresdenFiles'': when the mortician Butters has to do surgery to remove a bullet, he explicitly points out that he wasn't trained for this.

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* Lampshaded at one point repeatedly in the ''Literature/DresdenFiles'': when the mortician Butters has to do surgery to remove Waldo Butters, Harry's go-to person for medical emergencies, is a bullet, he ''mortician'' who in multiple books explicitly points out that he wasn't trained for this. this and the patient in question would really be better off in a proper hospital. He'll grudgingly accept when this isn't practical for reasons of secrecy or on account of a wizard patient's WalkingTechbane status, but happy about it he's not.
19th Nov '16 7:41:55 PM MaskedAndDangerous
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** Not only that, but the one time we DO see a character switch specialties, it's [[ButtMonkey Doug Murphy]], a known [[ComicallyIneptHealing patient-killer]] who switches over to morgue work because he has killed [[RunningGag so many patients]] in so many ways that [[AwesomeByAnalysis he can instantly determine how other doctors screwed up from personal experience]]



* [[AvertedTrope Averted in ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': The cast, consisting of two Doctors of Internal Medicine, one Surgeon, and one nurse, almost never operates outside of their own field, and when they do it's generally justified by Sacred Heart being a teaching hospital. Later in the series, [[RunningGag known]] [[ComicallyIneptHealing patient killer]] [[ButtMonkey Doug Murphy]] switches specialties from Internal Medicine to Coroner, because he's killed so many patients in so many different ways he is able to [[AwesomeByAnalysis instantly figure out how other doctors]] screwed up from personal experience.
19th Nov '16 7:38:38 PM MaskedAndDangerous
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* [[AvertedTrope Averted in ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': The cast, consisting of two Doctors of Internal Medicine, one Surgeon, and one nurse, almost never operates outside of their own field, and when they do it's generally justified by Sacred Heart being a teaching hospital. Later in the series, [[RunningGag known]] [[ComicallyIneptHealing patient killer]] [[ButtMonkey Doug Murphy]] switches specialties from Internal Medicine to Coroner, because he's killed so many patients in so many different ways he is able to [[AwesomeByAnalysis instantly figure out how other doctors]] screwed up from personal experience.
2nd May '16 9:05:00 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Averted in ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' where doctor Nanjo says that he isn't trained in doing autopsies and is only able to state basic things about the murder victims.

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* Averted in ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' where doctor Nanjo says that he isn't trained in doing autopsies and is only able to state basic things about the murder victims.
3rd Feb '16 5:16:15 PM Bissek
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* At one point on ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', the Forensic Examiner, Ducky, does surgery...''on a dog''. In this case the dog's life hung in the balance and wouldn't have survived if they'd taken the time to find an actual vet, and the dog ended up solving the mystery for them. Also, Ducky ''assisted'' his assistant Jimmy Palmer, who did spend time working in a vet and knew the basic principles of dog surgery.

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* At one point on ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', the Forensic Examiner, Ducky, does surgery...''on a dog''. In this case the dog's life hung in the balance and wouldn't have survived if they'd taken the time to find an actual vet, and the dog ended up solving the mystery for them. Also, Ducky ''assisted'' his assistant Jimmy Palmer, who did spend time working in a vet and knew the basic principles of dog surgery. Ducky had also been a surgeon earlier in his career.
26th Nov '15 9:34:58 AM FordPrefect
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* The titular ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman''. Again, this is justified by her being a doctor in (a) an era in which doctors practiced all forms of medicine, and (b) being a rural country doctor where she was the only physician around for miles.

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* The titular ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman''. Again, this is justified by her (a) being a doctor in (a) an era in which doctors practiced all forms of medicine, and (b) being a rural country doctor where she was the only physician around for miles.
26th Nov '15 9:34:25 AM FordPrefect
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-->'''Dr Sable''': Cal-Berkeley and UPenn may disagree.

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-->'''Dr Sable''': Cal-Berkeley and UPenn [=UPenn=] may disagree.
26th Nov '15 9:33:55 AM FordPrefect
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* The titular ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman''. Again, this is justified by her being a doctor in (a) an era in which doctors practiced all forms of medicine, and (b) being a rural country doctor where as the only physician around for miles, she would need to be able to practice all forms of medicine.

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* The titular ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman''. Again, this is justified by her being a doctor in (a) an era in which doctors practiced all forms of medicine, and (b) being a rural country doctor where as she was the only physician around for miles, she would need to be able to practice all forms of medicine.miles.
26th Nov '15 9:32:50 AM FordPrefect
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* ''Series/{{ER}}'' of all shows fell victim to this. One of it's signature episodes, "Love's Labor Lost" had ER residents Mark and Susan grossly mishandling a routine delivery (possibly deconstructing this trope, as it's possible that the very reason they screwed up was because they didn't have the necessary ob/gyn experience). This gets a callback when surgeon Benton panics when a woman goes into labor, "I haven't delivered a baby since medical school!" But even though many surgeons sub-specialize, he and fellow surgeon Elizabeth are seen doing things that range from cardiac surgery to abdominal, to neurosurgery, etc. Additionally, ER chief Kerry had OB/GYN nurse Abby abruptly reassigned to the ER. Aside from the fact that Kerry would have no authority whatsoever to do this, even if this were something Abby wanted--she vehemently objected before being told she had no choice--an OB nurse would have been out of her element in the ER. This is especially glaring in light of the fact that during the show's early years, a major storyline involved the ER nurses being sent to departments that they weren't trained for.

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* ''Series/{{ER}}'' of all shows fell victim to this. One of it's its signature episodes, "Love's Labor Lost" had ER residents Mark and Susan grossly mishandling a routine delivery (possibly deconstructing this trope, as it's possible that the very reason they screwed up was because they didn't have the necessary ob/gyn experience). This gets a callback when surgeon Benton panics when a woman goes into labor, "I haven't delivered a baby since medical school!" But even though many surgeons sub-specialize, he and fellow surgeon Elizabeth are seen doing things that range from cardiac surgery to abdominal, to neurosurgery, etc. Additionally, ER chief Kerry had OB/GYN nurse Abby abruptly reassigned to the ER. Aside from the fact that Kerry would have no authority whatsoever to do this, even if this were something Abby wanted--she vehemently objected before being told she had no choice--an OB nurse would have been out of her element in the ER. This is especially glaring in light of the fact that during the show's early years, a major storyline involved the ER nurses being sent to departments that they weren't trained for.
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