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7th Feb '18 5:25:06 PM FordPrefect
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** It should be pointed out that the above mentioned guns also applies to the UnitedStates. If you can manage a trans-oceanic invasion, congrats... you've now invaded the with the highest amount of guns per capita. And in the United States, you have three kinds of civillian Gun owners: Criminals, who have no problem with shooting people they don't like, Law Enforcement, who have no problem shooting people to defend the citizens, and legal gun owners, who have no problem shooting an illegitimate government bent on disarmament. The latter two are usually very well trained and the former is dangerous because of a lack of training. Oh, and try not to think about how the criminal, who isn't allowed to have a gun, is able to get them... or get them to the formerly unarmed populace who are now angry you are here.

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** It should be pointed out that the above mentioned guns also applies to the UnitedStates. If you can manage a trans-oceanic invasion, congrats... you've now invaded the country with the highest amount of guns per capita. And in the United States, you have three kinds of civillian Gun owners: Criminals, who have no problem with shooting people they don't like, Law Enforcement, who have no problem shooting people to defend the citizens, and legal gun owners, who have no problem shooting an illegitimate government bent on disarmament. The latter two are usually very well trained and the former is dangerous because of a lack of training. Oh, and try not to think about how the criminal, who isn't allowed to have a gun, is able to get them... or get them to the formerly unarmed populace who are now angry you are here.
7th Feb '18 5:24:09 PM FordPrefect
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* The UnitedStates lived by the "gigantic industrial base" conversion part of this trope from the late 19th century through to UsefulNotes/WorldWar2. Though the US always had tiny standing military forces relatively to just about everybody else, they remained small even as the country developed into a local, then regional, and eventually global power. This is because after around about the 1850s, the country's geography and economy began to serve as its greatest defensive assets. That is to say the US was a relatively large country quite far removed from any potential threats, one that began to develop a prosperous and largely insular economy with decent infrastructure to boot. After the mid-19th century an embargo or blockade began to be of limited effectiveness because the (north of the, at any rate) country was its own greatest customer, and an invasion would be tricky for reasons which are also rather obvious. The US was not unique in its ability to make use of female labour or in terms of the convertability of its factories, but it was the sheer size of the country's burgeoning population and well-developed industrial base that allowed them to pull this economic trick off so dramatically in the course of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

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* The UnitedStates lived by the "gigantic industrial base" conversion part of this trope from the late 19th century through to UsefulNotes/WorldWar2. Though the US always had tiny standing military forces relatively to just about everybody else, they remained small even as the country developed into a local, then regional, and eventually global power. This is because after around about the 1850s, the country's geography and economy began to serve as its greatest defensive assets. That is to say the US was a relatively large country quite far removed from any potential threats, one that began to develop a prosperous and largely insular economy with decent infrastructure to boot. After the mid-19th century an embargo or blockade began to be of limited effectiveness because the (north of the, country (the north, at any rate) country was its own greatest customer, and an invasion would be tricky for reasons which are also rather obvious. The US was not unique in its ability to make use of female labour or in terms of the convertability of its factories, but it was the sheer size of the country's burgeoning population and well-developed industrial base that allowed them to pull this economic trick off so dramatically in the course of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.
7th Feb '18 5:23:18 PM FordPrefect
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* Austria seems like a weak country in the middle of europe with no army to speak of. They aren't even a part of the NATO. However they have a defensive pact with the USA, Russia, the UK and France.

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* Austria seems like a weak country in the middle of europe Europe with no army to speak of. They aren't even a part of the NATO. However they have a defensive pact with the USA, Russia, the UK and France.
7th Feb '18 5:22:02 PM FordPrefect
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** Other accounts also include hidden hooks and pulleys that could tear ships apart if they got too close to the walls and arrays of mirrors used as DeathRays by focusing sunlight to burn ships.

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** Other accounts also include hidden hooks and pulleys that could tear ships apart if they got too close to the walls and arrays of mirrors used as DeathRays {{Death Ray}}s by focusing sunlight to burn ships.
28th Jan '18 4:43:06 PM nombretomado
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** In ''[[Literature/XWingSeries Wedge's Gamble]]'', a ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' novel by MichaelStackpole, the Rogues discover that the Empire has been using this idea for propaganda: they have been claiming the Death Star at Endor was, in fact, a mining station that the Rebellion had commandeered and were going to turn on populated worlds. It proves to be an intriguing bit of foreshadowing, when later in the book Wedge and a couple of his teammates take over a [[HumongousMecha skyscraper-sized construction droid]] and start ripping stuff up. And that's the ''distraction''.

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** In ''[[Literature/XWingSeries Wedge's Gamble]]'', a ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' novel by MichaelStackpole, Creator/MichaelStackpole, the Rogues discover that the Empire has been using this idea for propaganda: they have been claiming the Death Star at Endor was, in fact, a mining station that the Rebellion had commandeered and were going to turn on populated worlds. It proves to be an intriguing bit of foreshadowing, when later in the book Wedge and a couple of his teammates take over a [[HumongousMecha skyscraper-sized construction droid]] and start ripping stuff up. And that's the ''distraction''.
21st Jan '18 1:24:09 PM thatother1dude
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* ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' features an odd variation. [[LaResistance The rebels]] know that TheEmpire is building a second [[EarthShatteringKaboom Death Star]], but as it's unfinished they assume that its WaveMotionGun isn't yet operational. After the [[BigBadassBattleSequence Battle of Endor]] starts, however...
--> '''Palpatine:''' Now witness the firepower of this ''fully armed and operational battle station''! Fire at will, Commander!\\
''(the Death Star fires and destroys a Rebel cruiser)''\\
'''Lando:''' That blast came from the Death Star! ''[[OhCrap That thing's operational!]]''
21st Jan '18 1:15:24 PM thatother1dude
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* BreakOutTheMuseumPiece: It doesn't matter that there hasn't any fighting for a long time. Their weapons are [[RagnarokProofing safely stored away and always ready if needed]].

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* BreakOutTheMuseumPiece: It doesn't matter that there hasn't been any fighting for a long time. Their weapons are [[RagnarokProofing safely stored away and always ready if needed]].
15th Jan '18 9:42:00 PM jormis29
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** Also in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, the Oswaft, a species of giant manta rays who just want to be left alone are attacked by the Imperials. Lando Calrissian helps them develop ways to drive them off, including "screaming" (which creates a massive electromagnetic pulse-style effect) and producing duplicates.

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** Also in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, the Oswaft, The Oswaft from ''Literature/LandoCalrissianAndTheStarcaveOfThonBoka'' are a species of giant manta rays who just want to be left alone are attacked by the Imperials. Lando Calrissian helps them develop ways to drive them off, including "screaming" (which creates a massive electromagnetic pulse-style effect) and producing duplicates.
4th Jan '18 4:45:36 AM jormis29
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* In Creator/AlastairReynolds' novel ''Pushing Ice'', the alien "[=McKinley=]" mentions this as one reason why they want to establish trade with the humans instead of just blasting them and taking what they want.

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* In Creator/AlastairReynolds' novel ''Pushing Ice'', ''Literature/PushingIce'', the alien "[=McKinley=]" mentions this as one reason why they want to establish trade with the humans instead of just blasting them and taking what they want.
19th Dec '17 2:03:43 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Earth's ''first'' surprise to the Evronians is the title character, DonaldDuck's superhero/antihero alter ego, who gives the alien invaders a nasty surprise by savagely beating a large squad on a raid. The Evronians [[GenreSavvy having experience with this kind of things]], they react by sending hand-picked elimination squads to take him out and check for other surprises before launching the invasion proper.

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** Earth's ''first'' surprise to the Evronians is the title character, DonaldDuck's superhero/antihero alter ego, who gives the alien invaders a nasty surprise by savagely beating a large squad on a raid. The Evronians [[GenreSavvy having experience with this kind of things]], things, they react by sending hand-picked elimination squads to take him out and check for other surprises before launching the invasion proper.
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