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26th Jul '17 5:53:53 AM Dracis
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* ''FanFic/ToTheStars'', a ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fanfic taking place four hundred years in the future, has the outer human colonies invaded by a vicious race of StarfishAliens. The Cephalopods have greatly superior technology, and the first few clashes are massive [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp Battles]] -- but then the [[MagicalGirl magical girls]] show up, many of whom have ''centuries'' of demon-fighting experience and ''all'' of whom have ingrained combat instincts, a HealingFactor and a dazzling array of powers. The playing field is considerably leveled after that.
23rd Jul '17 5:20:35 AM StarTropes
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* ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' features an odd variation. [[LaResistance The rebels]] know that TheEmpire is building a second [[EarthShatteringKaboom Death Star]], but as it's unfinished they assume that its WaveMotionGun isn't yet operational. After the [[BigBadassBattleSequence Battle of Endor]] starts, however...
--> '''Palpatine:''' Now witness the firepower of this ''fully armed and operational battle station''! Fire at will, Commander!\\
''(the Death Star fires and destroys a Rebel cruiser)''\\
'''Lando:''' That blast came from the Death Star! ''[[OhCrap That thing's operational!]]''
15th Jul '17 12:58:43 PM nombretomado
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** What did the Italians use to replace the MAS in WorldWarII? The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_torpedo Human torpedo]]: a large torpedo with two divers steering it until they reached their targets, at which point they removed the limpet mine that replaced the warhead, placed it on the ship, and swam away before it blew up and sank the target. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_%281941%29 One such raid disabled two battleships in harbour and damaged a tanker (plus a destroyer as collateral)]]. After that, the Allies copied the concept... And the Royal Navy started dropping depth charge every time they suspected a raid ([[ProperlyParanoid they thwarted at least one such raid this way]]);
** In North Africa during WorldWarII, many armies mounted light cannons on trucks. Not Italy. They mounted [[http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/102/35_su_Fiat_634N 102mm naval guns taken from old destroyers]] (link in Italian, sorry). To say that they came as a surprise for British tankers would be an understatement.

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** What did the Italians use to replace the MAS in WorldWarII? World War II? The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_torpedo Human torpedo]]: a large torpedo with two divers steering it until they reached their targets, at which point they removed the limpet mine that replaced the warhead, placed it on the ship, and swam away before it blew up and sank the target. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_%281941%29 One such raid disabled two battleships in harbour and damaged a tanker (plus a destroyer as collateral)]]. After that, the Allies copied the concept... And the Royal Navy started dropping depth charge every time they suspected a raid ([[ProperlyParanoid they thwarted at least one such raid this way]]);
** In North Africa during WorldWarII, World War II, many armies mounted light cannons on trucks. Not Italy. They mounted [[http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/102/35_su_Fiat_634N 102mm naval guns taken from old destroyers]] (link in Italian, sorry). To say that they came as a surprise for British tankers would be an understatement.
30th Jun '17 1:31:59 PM GMantis
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* The 2008 Russo-Georgian war: at the climax of a high-intensity diplomatic crisis between Russia and Georgia, after South Osssetian women and children had been evacuated to Russia, the South Ossetians (one of two Russian-backed breakaway provinces in northern Georgia) started firing on Georgia proper with artillery. The Georgians traded fire for several days, then attacked with ground troops -- straight into heavy Russian forces that had already been deployed to support the separatists. Details at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War); the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement applies here, especially due to the large amount of propaganda that was involved in this conflict.
24th Jun '17 5:03:57 AM Piterpicher
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* Though the people using it weren't exactly de-militarized (you're piloting a HumongousMecha, after all), the instruction manual to ''RangerX'' describes the game's BFG as being "originally designed to aid in tunnel digging." This is the only weapon in the game that, upon firing, pierces any and all obstacles ''and'' shifts the game camera to the right as it goes. Who would have thought a tool designed to dig an entire tunnel in one to three shots would be more effective than ''any other weapon your mech can possibly find''?

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* Though the people using it weren't exactly de-militarized (you're piloting a HumongousMecha, after all), the instruction manual to ''RangerX'' ''VideoGame/RangerX'' describes the game's BFG as being "originally designed to aid in tunnel digging." This is the only weapon in the game that, upon firing, pierces any and all obstacles ''and'' shifts the game camera to the right as it goes. Who would have thought a tool designed to dig an entire tunnel in one to three shots would be more effective than ''any other weapon your mech can possibly find''?
9th Jun '17 12:05:36 PM Kafkesque
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* A LostTechnology version pops up in ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'' after the GodzillaThreshold is crossed. [[spoiler:That tower-mounted sprinkler system? It's actually the shockwave absorber for an ''orbital mass driver'' that can blow you out of the water from well beyond visual range.]]
8th Jun '17 12:06:57 PM Reflextion
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** Actually the more likely reason Germany did not invade Switzerland during WWII, according to historians, is that many high-ranking Nazi officials had their gold stashed away on Swiss banks. Michael Moore did a spoof on this.
*** Michael Moore #historians... Hitler wanted to anschluss Switzerland the way he did with Austria. Swiss responded with banning Nazi and Communists parties, mining every road, railroad and bridge, getting rid off every officer, who might think surrendering to Germans was a good idea, stockpiling supplies for partisans, working on decentralising army to quickly make them convert into La resistance. And made clear to Hitler, that he can go in, but he won't get out. CMOA.
31st May '17 5:37:07 AM MadSpy
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** It should be pointed out that the above mentioned guns also applies to the UnitedStates. If you can manage a trans-oceanic invasion, congrats... you've now invaded the with the highest amount of guns per capita. And in the United States, you have three kinds of civillian Gun owners: Criminals, who have no problem with shooting people they don't like, Law Enforcement, who have no problem shooting people to defend the citizens, and legal gun owners, who have no problem shooting an illegitimate government bent on disarmament. The latter two are usually very well trained and the former is dangerous because of a lack of training. Oh, and try not to think about how the criminal, who isn't allowed to have a gun, is able to get them... or get them to formerly unarmed populous who is now angry you are here.

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** It should be pointed out that the above mentioned guns also applies to the UnitedStates. If you can manage a trans-oceanic invasion, congrats... you've now invaded the with the highest amount of guns per capita. And in the United States, you have three kinds of civillian Gun owners: Criminals, who have no problem with shooting people they don't like, Law Enforcement, who have no problem shooting people to defend the citizens, and legal gun owners, who have no problem shooting an illegitimate government bent on disarmament. The latter two are usually very well trained and the former is dangerous because of a lack of training. Oh, and try not to think about how the criminal, who isn't allowed to have a gun, is able to get them... or get them to the formerly unarmed populous populace who is are now angry you are here.
31st May '17 5:32:19 AM MadSpy
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** And yet the Foundation's weapons isn't actually presented as all that much more impressive than the Empire's. Presumably, this has to do with the respective resource and technological advantages the Empire and the Foundation has: the Empire, even in its fading state, can still in a pinch throw together massive armadas of really, really big warships. The Foundation doesn't ''have'' massive warships -- what they have is much, much more developed miniaturization (which ''then'' leads to the aforementioned tools and some other perks -- the Foundation can put reactors into things Imperial technicians regards as impossibly small even for really weak reactor). In other words, the Foundation gets more bang for the buck, but since the Empire has ridiculously more buck, it still has more bang.

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** And yet the Foundation's weapons isn't aren't actually presented as all that much more impressive than the Empire's. Presumably, this has to do with the respective resource and technological advantages the Empire and the Foundation has: have: the Empire, even in its fading state, can still in a pinch throw together massive armadas of really, really big warships. The Foundation doesn't ''have'' massive warships -- what they have is much, much more developed miniaturization (which ''then'' leads to the aforementioned tools and some other perks -- the Foundation can put reactors into things Imperial technicians regards as impossibly small even for really weak reactor).reactors). In other words, the Foundation gets more bang for the buck, but since the Empire has ridiculously more buck, it still has more bang.
31st May '17 5:19:51 AM MadSpy
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*** After the crap hits the fan admiral Daala comes in with her Star Destroyers to try and stop our heroes as they're running away in the Sun Crusher. The ''physically indestructible'' Sun Crusher. The ships open fire, but Han rams the stolen ship straight through a Star Destroyer's bridge, crippling the ship and sending it out of control into a black hole. Surprise!
*** The Sun Crusher seems exceptionally adept at delivering Superweapon Surprises. After the aforementioned escape, the New Republic finds itself in possession of the worst weapon of mass destruction the universe has ever seen. This is decidedly against its principles, so the craft is ordered destroyed - which is somewhat difficult to achieve, considering it can withstand the pressure at the core of a star without a scratch. One character - well-meaning, but falling prey to the dark side - disagrees, retrieves the craft and vaporizes out of the blue the entire Carida system, one of the Empire's remaining strongholds. Surprise!

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*** After the crap hits the fan admiral fan, Admiral Daala comes in with her Star Destroyers to try and stop our heroes as they're running away in the Sun Crusher. The ''physically indestructible'' Sun Crusher. The ships open fire, but Han rams the stolen ship straight through a Star Destroyer's bridge, crippling the ship and sending it out of control into a black hole. Surprise!
*** The Sun Crusher seems exceptionally adept at delivering Superweapon Surprises. After the aforementioned escape, the New Republic finds itself in possession of the worst weapon of mass destruction the universe has ever seen. This is decidedly against its principles, so the craft is ordered destroyed - which is somewhat difficult to achieve, considering it can withstand the pressure at the core of a star without a scratch. One character - well-meaning, but falling prey to the dark side - disagrees, retrieves the craft and vaporizes out of the blue vaporizes the entire Carida system, one of the Empire's remaining strongholds. Surprise!
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