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19th Jul '15 4:52:42 PM Llygodenfawr
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they can't be straw if they're portrayed as having the right point of view
* Just as Creator/AynRand 's heroes are Straw Vulcans, so her villains tend to be Strawman Emotional characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[Literature/AtlasShrugged James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone.
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* Just as Creator/AynRand 's heroes are Straw (non-Straw) Vulcans, so her villains tend to be Strawman Emotional characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[Literature/AtlasShrugged James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone.
17th Dec '14 12:12:57 AM grendelkhan
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link the planck dive
* Prospero, in Creator/{{Greg Egan}}'s short story "The Planck Dive", though he may be more of a "Strawman Artist". He travels from Earth to a far-off space colony orbiting a black hole in order to observe an experiment so he can write an EpicPoem about it, but shows absolutely no respect for the scientists or science itself, insists that science is "empty" because it doesn't involve ancient archetypes like mythology, is willing to believe in any sort of pseudoscience if it fits his archetypes, and [[GiftedlyBad is actually a terrible poet but doesn't realize it]]. Because [[SarcasmMode surely everyone who has described science in poetic terms has no respect for the discipline]]-- [[Creator/CarlSagan Oh wait...]] What's more, it's implied that ''[[PlanetOfHats all]]'' Athenans are just as close-minded and arrogant as he is, except for [[OnlySaneMan his daughter]], whom all the other characters feel sorry for.
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* Prospero, in Creator/{{Greg Egan}}'s short story "The "[[http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/PLANCK/Complete/Planck.html The Planck Dive", Dive]]", though he may be more of a "Strawman Artist". He travels from Earth to a far-off space colony orbiting a black hole in order to observe an experiment so he can write an EpicPoem about it, but shows absolutely no respect for the scientists or science itself, insists that science is "empty" because it doesn't involve ancient archetypes like mythology, is willing to believe in any sort of pseudoscience if it fits his archetypes, and [[GiftedlyBad is actually a terrible poet but doesn't realize it]]. Because [[SarcasmMode surely everyone who has described science in poetic terms has no respect for the discipline]]-- [[Creator/CarlSagan Oh wait...]] What's more, it's implied that ''[[PlanetOfHats all]]'' Athenans are just as close-minded and arrogant as he is, except for [[OnlySaneMan his daughter]], whom all the other characters feel sorry for.
25th Oct '14 2:26:05 AM Wymar
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* Creator/StephenColbert's [[StrawCharacter character]].
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* Creator/StephenColbert's [[StrawCharacter character]]. His job isn't to report the news to you, but to [[Series/TheColbertReport ''feel'' them at you]].
14th Sep '14 9:30:15 AM MasterHero
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*''VideoGame/MassEffect3'': There's a nameless human crewman on the ''Normandy'' who is seen chatting with Garrus and Javik, after the Lesuss mission. The human makes pointlessly childish comments about how evil the process of indoctrination is, and he's only there so that Garrus and Javik can lecture him on how there is no such thing as good or evil in war.
21st Jun '14 2:33:19 PM BrendanDRizzo
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* Prospero, in Creator/{{Greg Egan}}'s short story "The Planck Dive", though he may be more of a "Strawman Artist". He travels from Earth to a far-off space colony orbiting a black hole in order to observe an experiment so he can write an EpicPoem about it, but shows absolutely no respect for the scientists or science itself, insists that science is "empty" because it doesn't involve ancient archetypes like mythology, is willing to believe in any sort of pseudoscience if it fits his archetypes, and [[GiftedlyBad is actually a terrible poet but doesn't realize it]]. Because [[SarcasmMode surely everyone who has described science in poetic terms has no respect for the discipline]]-- [[Creator/CarlSagan Oh wait...]] What's more, it's implied that ''[[PlanetOfHats all]]'' Athenans are just as close-minded and arrogant as he is, except for [[OnlySaneMan his daughter]], whom all the other characters feel sorry for.
22nd Dec '13 7:49:35 PM Katsuhagi
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** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral. Since it's said that the Vulcans turned to logic because their emotions were so strong they were overwhelming the Romulans are probably just behaving like Vulcans used to.
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** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral. Since it's said that the Vulcans turned to logic because their emotions were so strong they were overwhelming the Romulans are probably just behaving like Vulcans used to.to, which helps explain [[IHatePastMe the enmity between them]].
22nd Dec '13 7:49:12 PM Katsuhagi
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** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral. *** It's said that the Vulcans turned to logic because their emotions were so strong they were overwhelming and they became an amoral, warlike race, so the Romulans are probably just behaving like Vulcans used to.
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** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral. *** It's amoral. Since it's said that the Vulcans turned to logic because their emotions were so strong they were overwhelming and they became an amoral, warlike race, so the Romulans are probably just behaving like Vulcans used to.
22nd Dec '13 7:37:12 PM JIKTV
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* StephenColbert's [[StrawmanPolitical character]].
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* StephenColbert's [[StrawmanPolitical Creator/StephenColbert's [[StrawCharacter character]].

* Just as Creator/AynRand 's heroes are [[StrawVulcan Straw Vulcans]], so her villains tend to be StrawmanEmotional characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[AtlasShrugged James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone. * Jake Morgendorffer in {{Daria}}. Most of the ensemble characters carry this particular IdiotBall regularly, but Jake is probably the most consistent. * Liberals, according to Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}. Their article on liberalism outright says that there is no such thing as coherent liberal beliefs, and liberals are actually just conservatives who disagree for no logical reason because they want attention. Kind of ironic as many of the editors of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} who aren't {{Troll}}s are emotional in the same manner as {{Strawman Emotional}} themselves. * [[TheSimpsons Helen]] "Won't someone please ThinkOfTheChildren ?" [[TheSimpsons Lovejoy]]
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* Just as Creator/AynRand 's heroes are [[StrawVulcan Straw Vulcans]], Vulcans, so her villains tend to be StrawmanEmotional Strawman Emotional characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[AtlasShrugged them--[[Literature/AtlasShrugged James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone. * Jake Morgendorffer in {{Daria}}.''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}''. Most of the ensemble characters carry this particular IdiotBall regularly, but Jake is probably the most consistent. * Liberals, according to Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}. Their article on liberalism outright says that there is no such thing as coherent liberal beliefs, and liberals are actually just conservatives who disagree for no logical reason because they want attention. Kind of ironic as many of the editors of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} who aren't {{Troll}}s are emotional in the same manner as {{Strawman Emotional}} Strawman Emotional themselves. * [[TheSimpsons [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Helen]] "Won't someone please ThinkOfTheChildren ?" [[TheSimpsons [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Lovejoy]]

* [[StarWars Anakin Skywalker]] in contrast to the rest of the Jedi, who believe emotions lead to TheDarkSide.
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* [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Anakin Skywalker]] in contrast to the rest of the Jedi, who believe emotions lead to TheDarkSide.
29th Nov '13 9:47:36 AM IchigoMontoya
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* Having [[AgentMulder every single emotional character]] [[DyingLikeAnimals be a]] [[BeliefMakesYouStupid blind believer]] in a [[CorruptChurch corrupt]] [[PathOfInspiration system]] [[ReligionOfEvil of]] [[VillainWithGoodPublicity authority]].
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* Having [[AgentMulder every single emotional character]] [[DyingLikeAnimals character be a]] [[BeliefMakesYouStupid blind believer]] in a [[CorruptChurch corrupt]] [[PathOfInspiration system]] [[ReligionOfEvil of]] [[VillainWithGoodPublicity authority]].

* Paint them as a WideEyedIdealist or even a NewAgeRetroHippie who is too dippy or weak-willed to ShootTheDog. * Making [[PassionIsEvil evil itself, or an equivalent malevolent force, powered by emotions or passions.]] This trope is different from EmotionsVsStoicism, in that EmotionsVsStoicism portrays logic and emotions as both having strengths and weaknesses, whereas this trope strawmans emotion much the same way StrawVulcan strawmans logic. This trope is less often played straight than StrawVulcan, because, well, strawmanning emotion [[ArtisticLicenseLogic isn't very logical.]] In fact, an author who plays this trope straight is likely to be a StrawVulcan themselves. They are also very likely to fall on the Enlightenment side of RomanticismVersusEnlightenment.
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* Paint them as a WideEyedIdealist or even a NewAgeRetroHippie who is who's too dippy or weak-willed to ShootTheDog. * Making [[PassionIsEvil evil itself, or an equivalent malevolent force, powered by emotions or passions.]] passions]]. This trope is different from EmotionsVsStoicism, in that EmotionsVsStoicism portrays logic and emotions as both having strengths and weaknesses, whereas this trope strawmans emotion much the same way StrawVulcan strawmans logic. This trope is less often played straight than StrawVulcan, because, well, strawmanning emotion [[ArtisticLicenseLogic isn't very logical.]] logical]]. In fact, an author who plays this trope straight is likely to be a StrawVulcan themselves. They are also very likely to fall on the Enlightenment side of RomanticismVersusEnlightenment.
9th Sep '13 2:11:12 PM ilniaj
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There are no such things as a real life strawman. A Strawman is a completely made up person.
* Liberals, according to Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}. Their article on liberalism outright says that there is no such thing as coherent liberal beliefs, and liberals are actually just conservatives who disagree for no logical reason because they want attention. Kind of ironic as many of the editors of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} who aren't {{Troll}}s are {{Strawman Emotional}}s themselves.
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* Liberals, according to Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}. Their article on liberalism outright says that there is no such thing as coherent liberal beliefs, and liberals are actually just conservatives who disagree for no logical reason because they want attention. Kind of ironic as many of the editors of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} who aren't {{Troll}}s are emotional in the same manner as {{Strawman Emotional}}s Emotional}} themselves.
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