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5th Sep '17 5:45:41 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/AlienCovenant'': Whereas in the previous film he was more AmbiguouslyEvil, [[spoiler:David]] has fully become this by the time the crew of a new spaceship finds him on a deserted planet. He considers all intelligent life to be utterly meaningless and worthy of extinction, seeing himself as the superior being.
12th Aug '17 12:24:16 PM KizunaTallis
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--> '''Rock:''' "It's not an obligation. And it's got nothing to do with justice. The only reason I wanna do it is because it's my hobby."

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--> '''Rock:''' "It's It's not an obligation. And it's got nothing to do with justice. The only reason I wanna do it is because it's my hobby."



** The graphic novel ''Comicbook/TheKillingJoke'' created the characterization of the Joker as a Straw Nihilist who will do anything to prove to Batman that life is one big joke and that the only sensible response to it is give into madness.

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** The graphic novel ''Comicbook/TheKillingJoke'' created the characterization of the Joker ComicBook/TheJoker as a Straw Nihilist who will do anything to prove to Batman that life is one big joke and that the only sensible response to it is to give into the madness.



** The comic book continuation of ''BatmanBeyond'' introduces The Clown King, the future self-proclaimed successor of the Joker (in reality he's the sociopathic younger brother of Dana and has idolized the Joker since childhood). However, he claims that the Joker, for all his nihilism, ''didnt go far enough'' and still cared about two things; his fights with Batman, and being remembered as a symbol of chaos. The Joker King on the other hand couldnt care less about anything at all, because in his view, because no matter how hard you try to preserve your legacy, the universe will eventually end, nothing whatsoever matters. All he wants is to kill as many people as possible, preferably including his own family, then die himself. He achieves this by organizing an enormous riot with Jokerz-members from all over the country, killing thousands of people and leaving Gotham in ruins. He dies falling off a building while fighting Terry.

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** The comic book continuation of ''BatmanBeyond'' ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' introduces The Clown King, the future [[LegacyCharacter self-proclaimed successor successor]] of the Joker (in reality reality, he's the sociopathic younger brother of Dana and has idolized the Joker since childhood). However, he claims that the Joker, for all his nihilism, ''didnt ''didn't go far enough'' and still cared about two things; things: his fights with Batman, and being remembered as a symbol of chaos. The Joker Clown King on the other hand couldnt couldn't care less about anything at all, because in his view, because no matter how hard you try to preserve your legacy, the universe will eventually end, end and nothing whatsoever matters. All he wants is to kill as many people as possible, preferably including his own family, then die himself. He achieves this by organizing an enormous riot with Jokerz-members from all over the country, killing thousands of people and leaving Gotham in ruins. He dies falling off a building while fighting Terry.



* ''ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}}'': {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d with Father, the villain of Creator/WarrenEllis's first issue. A Nietzsche-obsessed superhuman murderer created by a neo-nazi EvilutionaryBiologist, he had been [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in a mountain]] by said creator for having several flaws -- for instance, being insane. Upon escaping, he proceeds to kill every person he encounters while quoting butchered Nietzsche at them, and sometimes at their corpses. This is apparently his entire plan. In his mind, he is the {{Ubermensch}}, and is "bringing joy to the ordinary man by dint of his existence-- by destroying them."

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* ''ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}}'': {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d with Father, the villain of Creator/WarrenEllis's first issue. A Nietzsche-obsessed superhuman murderer created by a neo-nazi Neo-Nazi EvilutionaryBiologist, he had been [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in a mountain]] by said creator for having several flaws -- for instance, being insane. Upon escaping, he proceeds to kill every person he encounters while quoting butchered Nietzsche at them, and sometimes at their corpses. This is apparently his entire plan. In his mind, he is the {{Ubermensch}}, and is "bringing joy to the ordinary man by dint of his existence-- by destroying them."



* In ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'', the BigBad Mr. Rictus was originally a devout Christian before he suffered a terrible accident, briefly died on the operating table and saw [[CessationOfExistence nothing on the other side]]. He then decided that life itself is meaningless and [[FaithHeelTurn abandoned all his morals]] so he could satisfy every sadistic whim he ever had and just commit murder and other atrocities on a daily basis since there would be no ultimate punishment for his sins in death. Of course, getting horrifically scarred in the process of that aforementioned accident probably didn't help.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'', the BigBad Mr. Rictus was originally a devout Christian before he [[StartOfDarkness suffered a terrible accident, accident]], [[NearDeathExperience briefly died on the operating table table]], and saw [[CessationOfExistence nothing on the other side]]. He then decided that life itself is was meaningless and [[FaithHeelTurn abandoned all his morals]] so he could satisfy every sadistic whim he ever had and just commit murder and other atrocities on a daily basis since there would be no ultimate punishment for his sins in death. Of course, getting horrifically scarred disfigured in the process of that aforementioned accident probably didn't help.



** Dr. Manhattan fits this trope. His [[NonLinearCharacter nonlinear]] view of time convinces him that his own actions are predestined and he is powerless to change the course of events. His godlike perception of reality leaves him unable to see the lives of individual humans as significant. As a result, despite being the most powerful man on the planet he just does whatever the government orders him to, because life is so devoid of meaning he can't see why it matters.
--->'''Dr. Manhattan''': The newspapers call me a crimefighter, so the Pentagon says I must fight crime. In Moloch's underground vice-den, the sighs turn to screams of terror. The morality of my activities escapes me.
*** Later he gets better, and comes to value each human life as unique and precious because of its unlikelihood.

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** Dr. Manhattan fits this trope. His [[NonLinearCharacter nonlinear]] view of time convinces him that his own actions are predestined and he is powerless to change the course of events. His godlike perception of reality leaves him unable to see the lives of individual humans as significant. As a result, despite being the most powerful man on the planet he just does whatever the government orders him to, because life is so devoid of meaning he can't see why it matters.
--->'''Dr. Manhattan''': The newspapers call me a crimefighter, so the Pentagon says I must fight crime. In Moloch's underground vice-den, the sighs turn to screams of terror. The morality of my activities escapes me.
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matters. Later he gets better, and comes to value each human life as unique and precious because of its unlikelihood.
11th Aug '17 9:03:58 AM KizunaTallis
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* ''RickAndMorty'' has main character Rick Sanchez come off as this, being one of the most brilliant scientific minds to ever exist, Rick has travelled all over time, space and even other dimension, and has become incredibly jaded, abusive and manipulative. It doesnt help that he's interacted with countless alternate versions of both himself and his family members, making everyones lives seem basically interchangable. However, some episodes have shown that Rick is actually in serious emotional pain and suicidal, and his nihilism is mostly a defense mechanism.

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* ''RickAndMorty'' ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' has main character Rick Sanchez often come off as this, being this. Being one of the most brilliant scientific minds to ever exist, Rick has travelled traveled all over time, space and even other dimension, dimensions, and has become [[SeenItAll incredibly jaded, jaded]], abusive and manipulative. [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]]. It doesnt doesn't help that he's interacted with countless alternate versions of both himself and his family members, making everyones everyone's lives seem basically interchangable. interchangeable. However, some episodes have shown that Rick is [[StepfordSnarker actually in serious emotional pain pain]] and suicidal, [[DeathSeeker suicidal]], and his nihilism is mostly a defense mechanism.
10th Aug '17 6:09:07 PM KizunaTallis
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' the BigBad Mr. Rictus was a devout Christian before he briefly died and encountered no afterlife. He then decided that life itself is meaningless and abandoned all his morals so he could satisfy every sadistic whim he ever had and just commit murder and other atrocities on a daily basis. Of course, getting horrifically scarred in the process probably didnt do him any favors.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'', the BigBad Mr. Rictus was originally a devout Christian before he suffered a terrible accident, briefly died on the operating table and encountered no afterlife. saw [[CessationOfExistence nothing on the other side]]. He then decided that life itself is meaningless and [[FaithHeelTurn abandoned all his morals morals]] so he could satisfy every sadistic whim he ever had and just commit murder and other atrocities on a daily basis. basis since there would be no ultimate punishment for his sins in death. Of course, getting horrifically scarred in the process of that aforementioned accident probably didnt do him any favors.didn't help.
3rd Aug '17 8:21:51 AM morenohijazo
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* ''VideoGame/TheTalosPrinciple'': No matter what philosophy you take, he finds a problem with it. [[spoiler:As it turns out, this was ''not'' part of the program-while his purpose is to induce doubt and free will, being stuck in computer terminals watching countless thousands of failures has pushed him ''far'' across the DespairEventHorizon.]]
27th Jul '17 7:55:22 AM SilentStranger
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* When [[DependingOnTheWriter written by certain writers]]. ComicBook/ThePunisher is occasionally interpreted as this.

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* When [[DependingOnTheWriter written by certain writers]]. ComicBook/ThePunisher is occasionally interpreted as this. Most notably in ''ThePunisherMAX''.


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** Ironically, despite this and her role as a SadistTeacher, even SHE wont tell her students why Valentines Day is now celebrated with gifts of meat products...


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* ''RickAndMorty'' has main character Rick Sanchez come off as this, being one of the most brilliant scientific minds to ever exist, Rick has travelled all over time, space and even other dimension, and has become incredibly jaded, abusive and manipulative. It doesnt help that he's interacted with countless alternate versions of both himself and his family members, making everyones lives seem basically interchangable. However, some episodes have shown that Rick is actually in serious emotional pain and suicidal, and his nihilism is mostly a defense mechanism.
24th Jul '17 7:10:54 AM thatmadork
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** The Iron Warriors from ''40000'' turned into this after years and years of brutal siege warfare and being used as the Imperium's battered workhorse legion without so much as a thanks. To them, there is zero glory in war, victory is all that matters and everything and everyone is just a resource to be expended in pursuit of it.
10th Jul '17 12:10:42 AM Killchrono
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* Zenos yae Galvus, son of the Garelan Emperor and the main antagonist of the ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' expansion ''Stormblood'', is this. While he is a smorgasbord of villainous tropes (including but not limited to BloodKnight, [[{{Sadist}} The Sadist]], and SocialDarwinist) done to create the most detestable antagonist the game has seen so far, in the end it's his nihilism that he uses to justify the motive of all his actions, openly stating that he believes that 'nothing on this star matters', and thus it is his right to torment and make others suffer as he pleases.
17th Jun '17 2:39:34 AM Fuyumoto
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** From ''VideoGame/Persona2'' there is [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos]], who is an [[MadeOfEvil embodiment of all of humanities most negative and destructive qualities]].]] And since that unfettered, nihilistic ideals make up part of what he is, it makes sense that he would have quite the nihilistic ideals himself.

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** From ''VideoGame/Persona2'' there is [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos]], who is an [[MadeOfEvil embodiment of all of humanities most negative and destructive qualities]].]] And since that unfettered, nihilistic ideals make up part of what he is, it makes sense that he would have quite the nihilistic ideals himself.
17th Jun '17 2:37:24 AM Fuyumoto
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* ''[[VideoGame/{{Onmyoji}} Onmyōji]]'': [[BrokenBird Susabi]] the fucking downer who tosses such gems as "you must hide your gentleness, lest it become your weakness" and "the world is one big joke" to a ''child''.



** From ''VideoGame/Persona2'' there is [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos]], who is an [[MadeOfEvil embodiment of all of humanities most negative and destructive qualities]]. And since that unfettered, nihilistic ideals make up part of what he is, it makes sense that he would have quite the nihilistic ideals himself.

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** From ''VideoGame/Persona2'' there is [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos]], who is an [[MadeOfEvil embodiment of all of humanities most negative and destructive qualities]]. ]] And since that unfettered, nihilistic ideals make up part of what he is, it makes sense that he would have quite the nihilistic ideals himself.
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