History Main / StrawHypocrite

10th Feb '17 10:20:51 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[FemaleMisogynist Cersei]] also considers women to be weak and despises them for this. However she thinks of herself as an exceptional ruler, even though she is clearly incompetent, and thinks anything going wrong is due to everybody plotting against her.
10th Feb '17 9:39:43 PM Fireblood
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** House's patients sometimes espouse a cause or adopt an attitude to mask a secret, eg. an AIDS sufferer who embraces a life of hedonism to mask guilt over his part in his mother's death, an environmentalist who hides his waning enthusiasm for the cause, and, in a rare example of noble straw hypocrisy, a patient's late father who allowed his son and his black wife to believe he was a racist in order to hide a horrible secret.
* On ''Series/{{Justified}}'' Boyd is the leader of a White Supremacist group even though he really has nothing against black people. He likes to rob banks and blow things up and his position gives him access to weapons and fanatical accomplices who will not testify against him if caught. After he gets shot and his gang sent to jail, he claims to have found God and starts his own church among the low level criminals and drug addicts of the county. Both the cops and his criminal family believe that he is using this to build another criminal gang. The cops try to figure what his 'master plan' is and his family wants in on the 'action'. In the first season finale we learn that [[spoiler: he really believed what he preached and was simply applying the same methods he used as a criminal to try to do some good in the community]]

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** House's patients sometimes espouse a cause or adopt an attitude to mask a secret, eg.e.g. an AIDS sufferer who embraces a life of hedonism to mask guilt over his part in his mother's death, an environmentalist who hides his waning enthusiasm for the cause, and, in a rare example of noble straw hypocrisy, a patient's late father who allowed his son and his black wife to believe he was a racist in order to hide a horrible secret.
* On ''Series/{{Justified}}'' Boyd is the leader of a White Supremacist group even though he really has nothing against black people. He likes to rob banks and blow things up and his position gives him access to weapons and fanatical accomplices who will not testify against him if caught. After he gets shot and his gang sent to jail, he claims to have found God and starts his own church among the low level criminals and drug addicts of the county. Both the cops and his criminal family believe that he is using this to build another criminal gang. The cops try to figure what his 'master plan' is and his family wants in on the 'action'. In the first season finale we learn that [[spoiler: he really believed what he preached and was simply applying the same methods he used as a criminal to try to do some good in the community]]community]].



* ''Series/TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]

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* ''Series/TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist atheist, despite claiming to be both.]]



** Isabella is also an example: she is generally viewed disfavourably by the audience, as she values her chastity more than her brother's life and tells him that he deserves to die for his sin. Then once the Duke of Vienna proposes marriage to her, she does not protest in the least (although this can be interpreted different ways by different directors). There are theories that ''Measure'' is an attack specifically on the Catholic Church, which, as you probably know, emphasizes chastity in its clergy.

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** Isabella is also an example: she is generally viewed disfavourably disfavorably by the audience, as she values her chastity more than her brother's life and tells him that he deserves to die for his sin. Then once the Duke of Vienna proposes marriage to her, she does not protest in the least (although this can be interpreted different ways by different directors). There are theories that ''Measure'' is an attack specifically on the Catholic Church, Church which, as you probably know, emphasizes chastity in its clergy.
10th Feb '17 9:34:20 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' has the Lady of the Green Kirtle, a HollywoodAtheist who ''knows'' that God (pardon me, [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan]]) exists and is just arguing in favor of atheism in order to defeat the heroes with the aid of magic that makes them confused and susceptible to whatever she tells them.

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' has the Lady of the Green Kirtle, a HollywoodAtheist FlatEarthAtheist who ''knows'' that God (pardon me, [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan]]) exists and is just arguing in favor of atheism in order to defeat the heroes with the aid of magic that makes them confused and susceptible to whatever she tells them.



** [[FemaleMisogynist Cersei]] also considers women to be weak and despises them for this. However she thinks of herself as an exceptional ruler, even though is clearly incompetent, and thinks anything going wrong is due to everybody plotting against her.

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** [[FemaleMisogynist Cersei]] also considers women to be weak and despises them for this. However she thinks of herself as an exceptional ruler, even though she is clearly incompetent, and thinks anything going wrong is due to everybody plotting against her.
4th Feb '17 1:16:31 PM jormis29
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* ''Series/TheYoungPop'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]

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* ''Series/TheYoungPop'' ''Series/TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]
4th Feb '17 1:16:08 PM jormis29
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* ''{{Series/TheYoungPope}}'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]

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* ''{{Series/TheYoungPope}}'' ''Series/TheYoungPop'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]
3rd Feb '17 3:23:00 PM wereturntotransylvania
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* ''TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]

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* ''TheYoungPope'' ''{{Series/TheYoungPope}}'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist despite claiming to be both.]]
3rd Feb '17 1:56:22 PM wereturntotransylvania
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* ''TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist.]]

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* ''TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist.atheist despite claiming to be both.]]
3rd Feb '17 1:54:55 PM wereturntotransylvania
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*Lord Summerisle in the original ''TheWickerMan'' calmly explains to Sgt. Howie that Summerisle's pagan religion, which he leads and enforces, is only a century or so old, invented by the present Lord's grandfather to keep the residents in line and prevent them from blaming their liege for failed harvests. Lord Summerisle doesn't believe a word of it, but he encourages the islanders to be suspicious of Howie, a Christian, as a dangerous, infidel outsider.


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* ''TheYoungPope'' himself tells another priest a secret: he doesn't believe in God. Not only is he pope, but he's a pope who tells the Catholic population of the world that he is closer to God than they ever will be, and demands 24/7 spiritual searching for God as the chief tenet of his papacy. [[spoiler:Later events indicate he's simply very disillusioned by the perceived absence of God in his own life and taking it out on his entire faith, but that could qualify for ''doubling up'' on this trope, as it makes him neither a faithful Christian nor a satisfied atheist.]]
22nd Jan '17 7:12:44 PM MagBas
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* Every ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}} villain has a different political viewpoint or agenda that they enforce to the greatest possible extreme on the people they rule. The theme of the series is that extremism is bad, but to highlight the point, every one of these villains is a hypocrite that doesn't practice what they preach.
** Andrew Ryan from the [[VideoGame/Bioshock1 first game in the franchise]] is a staunch believer in objectivism and founded Rapture on the idea of a free market with no government oversight or censorship. After a few months in Rapture, after finding out Frank Fontaine's business model was outselling his, had Frank killed and absorbed his businesses into his own. Over time he also began to crack down on artists in Rapture who publicly criticized him and began pumping mind-control drugs into Rapture's air supply (even though under his philosophy, free will is something to the held sacred). Ryan was also a staunch atheist who banned all public religious worship in Rapture, but cracked down hard on anyone who questioned his own beliefs about "The Great Chain of Progress," something Sophia Lamb [[NotSoDifferent (see below)]] criticized him for.
** Sophia Lamb took over as the BigBad of ''VideoGame/Bioshock2'' preaching the opposite philosophy to Ryan; pure collectivism and subverting the rights of the individual for the common good. She nonetheless endangers her own plans for her "Utopia" by tormenting Eleanor, who she treats as belonging to her and her alone. Lamb further subverts her own theories by abducting children from the surface away from their families, claiming it to be for the greater good but only seeking to gather power for herself.
** Father Zachary Comstock is a born-again Christian who founded Columbia on a platform of Christian values, American Nationalism, and White Supremacy. Ultimately he subverts every one of these as hard as he possibly can. [[spoiler: Comstock is actually an alternate-universe version of Booker, who found religion as a way to repent for all of the sinful acts he performed as a soldier. Despite claiming to "repent" from this life (and condemning his alternate self for not doing the same thing), Comstock instead used his newfound faith as a shield against his guilt and convinced himself that the Indian wars were justified. This led him to succeed Columbia from the United States, turn the city into a monarchy (with himself as king), and prepare it for an eventual war with "The Sodom Below". He condemns any non-white members of the city (despite being implied to be part Sioux himself), builds a museum lionizing his own actions at Wounded Knee and other wars (despite claiming to have repented from these deeds), and punishes any dissent or questioning of his reign with death (despite his claims to being a loving Christian ruler).]]
--> "The Lord forgives everything, but I'm just a prophet... so I don't have to."
22nd Jan '17 6:35:36 PM AdamC
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* Every ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}} villain has a different political viewpoint or agenda that they enforce to the greatest possible extreme on the people they rule. The theme of the series is that extremism is bad, but to highlight the point, every one of these villains is a hypocrite that doesn't practice what they preach.
** Andrew Ryan from the [[VideoGame/Bioshock1 first game in the franchise]] is a staunch believer in objectivism and founded Rapture on the idea of a free market with no government oversight or censorship. After a few months in Rapture, after finding out Frank Fontaine's business model was outselling his, had Frank killed and absorbed his businesses into his own. Over time he also began to crack down on artists in Rapture who publicly criticized him and began pumping mind-control drugs into Rapture's air supply (even though under his philosophy, free will is something to the held sacred). Ryan was also a staunch atheist who banned all public religious worship in Rapture, but cracked down hard on anyone who questioned his own beliefs about "The Great Chain of Progress," something Sophia Lamb [[NotSoDifferent (see below)]] criticized him for.
** Sophia Lamb took over as the BigBad of ''VideoGame/Bioshock2'' preaching the opposite philosophy to Ryan; pure collectivism and subverting the rights of the individual for the common good. She nonetheless endangers her own plans for her "Utopia" by tormenting Eleanor, who she treats as belonging to her and her alone. Lamb further subverts her own theories by abducting children from the surface away from their families, claiming it to be for the greater good but only seeking to gather power for herself.
** Father Zachary Comstock is a born-again Christian who founded Columbia on a platform of Christian values, American Nationalism, and White Supremacy. Ultimately he subverts every one of these as hard as he possibly can. [[spoiler: Comstock is actually an alternate-universe version of Booker, who found religion as a way to repent for all of the sinful acts he performed as a soldier. Despite claiming to "repent" from this life (and condemning his alternate self for not doing the same thing), Comstock instead used his newfound faith as a shield against his guilt and convinced himself that the Indian wars were justified. This led him to succeed Columbia from the United States, turn the city into a monarchy (with himself as king), and prepare it for an eventual war with "The Sodom Below". He condemns any non-white members of the city (despite being implied to be part Sioux himself), builds a museum lionizing his own actions at Wounded Knee and other wars (despite claiming to have repented from these deeds), and punishes any dissent or questioning of his reign with death (despite his claims to being a loving Christian ruler).]]
--> "The Lord forgives everything, but I'm just a prophet... so I don't have to."
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