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2nd Nov '17 8:05:28 PM PaulA
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* In Edmond Hamilton's ''Star Kings'', when the heroes are brought to the villain, he tells the one who brought them about how they will soon crush their oppressive enemies... Blah blah blah. After the guy leaves, he asks the hero "How did you like my little speech?", and at his amazement, explains that he's no idiot, and such speeches are only useful for mindless fanatics. But since that's the main driving force of his conquest... Well, he has no choice.

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* In Edmond Hamilton's ''Star Kings'', ''Literature/TheStarKings'', when the heroes are brought to the villain, he tells the one who brought them about how they will soon crush their oppressive enemies... Blah blah blah. After the guy leaves, he asks the hero "How did you like my little speech?", and at his amazement, explains that he's no idiot, and such speeches are only useful for mindless fanatics. But since that's the main driving force of his conquest... Well, he has no choice.
31st Oct '17 5:38:21 PM MagBas
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31st Oct '17 5:37:48 PM MagBas
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** FridgeBrilliance when you consider Arthur's fascination with Muggle items was what got him his job in the first place (since presumably no others may have wanted the position as implied by the low pay). As such, he merely took the job so he could better indulge in his hobby (though he does get promoted to a more serious job in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Book 6]].)
31st Oct '17 3:19:55 PM darkemyst
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** FridgeBrilliance when you consider Arthur's fascination with Muggle items was what got him his job in the first place (since presumably no others may have wanted the position as implied by the low pay). As such, he merely took the job so he could better indulge in his hobby (though he does get promoted to a more serious job in Book 6.)

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** FridgeBrilliance when you consider Arthur's fascination with Muggle items was what got him his job in the first place (since presumably no others may have wanted the position as implied by the low pay). As such, he merely took the job so he could better indulge in his hobby (though he does get promoted to a more serious job in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Book 6.)6]].)
** Then there's Umbridge in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Book 5]] who teaches the students that the Unforgivable Curses are illegal and unforgivable while the [[AgonyBeam Cruciatus Curse]] appears her favorite spell.
20th Oct '17 10:29:04 PM DVB
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* Lord Shojo in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a non-villainous example. He's the leader of an order of [[ThePaladin paladins]], but is himself ignoring most of their rules behind the scenes; this is because he feels the oath they took is driving them into LawfulStupid territory, and only by doing the DirtyBusiness that the rest of the Sapphire Guard won't will anything good get done. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, when Shojo's deception is revealed, he is killed by the Lawful Stupidest of them all, Miko Miyazaki. She also accidentally breaks the CosmicKeystone Shojo was guarding. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job breaking it, "hero".]]]]

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* Lord Shojo in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a non-villainous example. seemingly plays this, but he subverts it ultimately. He's the leader of an order the Sapphire Order, the group of [[ThePaladin paladins]], but is himself ignoring most of their rules behind the scenes; this scenes. However, as he points out, his class is because he feels '''not''' a Paladin, but an ''Aristocrat.'' He inherited his position as not just as the oath they took is driving them into LawfulStupid territory, and only by doing the DirtyBusiness that the rest leader of the Sapphire Guard won't Order, but also lord of Azure City, meaning he has to balance managing the secret order of paladins and ruling the common people. As such, he chose to be Good over Lawful. He feigns senility in order to avoid ''assassination attempts'' by the court of nobles while also manipulating his Paladins since he believes the Oath of the founder, Kim Soon, is leading them to LawfulStupid territory. And as he puts it, whatever decisions and choices he make will anything good get done. have a much larger impact than the paladins and as he puts it, any mistake he makes could have millions of people die, explaining his pragmatism. Hence he pulled an elaborate scheme to hire the Order. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, when Shojo's deception is revealed, he is killed by the Lawful Stupidest of them all, Miko Miyazaki. She Miyazaki, a prime example of a LawfulStupid paladin (though her ego problems are also accidentally breaks a mass issue.) Despite this, he is still considered Good, albeit ChaoticGood. However, Miko does end uo breakig the CosmicKeystone Shojo was guarding. the Sapphire Guard dedicated themselves to protecting. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job breaking it, "hero".His own deceptive means caught up with him in the end.]]]]
20th Oct '17 9:52:03 PM DVB
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** FridgeBrilliance when you consider Arthur's fascination with Muggle items was what got him his job in the first place (since presumably no others may have wanted the position as implied by the low pay). As such, he merely took the job so he could better indulge in his hobby (though he does get promoted to a more serious job in Book 6.)
20th Oct '17 9:43:18 PM DVB
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* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum'': Almost none of the ponies [[spoiler: technically believed that humanity has to be ponified for their own good. In reality, an ArtifactOfDoom simply brainwashed them into thinking that way. Even BigBad Queen Celestia is implicitly a victim of its power and wouldn't have become a xenocidal despot without its [[TheCorrupter influence]].]]

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* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum'': Almost none of the ponies [[spoiler: technically believed that humanity has to be ponified for their own good. In reality, The entire scenario was the result of an ArtifactOfDoom simply brainwashed them into thinking that way. Even BigBad known as Tirek's Bag. Yes, as in the ''Gen 1 version of Tirek.'' Tirek's Bag corrupted virtually the whole pony race, especially Queen Celestia is implicitly Celestia, as a victim of its power and wouldn't massive revenge scheme on humanity for what Megan did in defeating Tirek. The entire xenophobic conquest would not have become a xenocidal despot without its [[TheCorrupter influence]].happened had it not been for that.]]
10th Oct '17 6:34:05 PM CJCroen1393
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* Femme Fatale from ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' is this trope mixed with StrawFeminist; in order to convince the girls to let her off the hook, she convinces them that she'd be doing a disservice to women everywhere, stating that women need to look out for each other. Later, however, the girls are introduced to three women (well, two--one of them was just complaining that she [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking stole her hairstyle]]) who were harmed by Femme Fatale directly, including a female bank owner who was robbed by her and a female police officer who had her arm broken by her. Turns out, Femme Fatale's only in it [[ItsAllAboutMe for herself]], and if another woman stands in her way, she'll drop all feminist pretenses and turn on them.
28th Sep '17 1:19:54 AM LinTaylor
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*** Gjallarhorn outlawed the Deinsleif, railguns similar to what the Gundam Flauros uses, as they are the only long-range weapons that can pierce nanolaminate armor. As both Rustal and Iok demonstrate, Gjallarhorn is all too willing to plant Dainsleifs on their enemies in order to give them grounds to field their own ''en masse''.

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*** Gjallarhorn outlawed the Deinsleif, railguns similar to what the Dainsleif, high-powered railcannons capable of piercing nanolaminate armor[[note]]Tekkadan's Gundam Flauros uses, as they are the only long-range weapons that can pierce nanolaminate armor. As both uses a railcannon capable of firing them, but uses different ammunition, making it fall into a legal gray area[[/note]]. However, Iok Kujan and Rustal and Iok demonstrate, Gjallarhorn is all too Ellion demonstrate that they're more than willing to plant Dainsleifs on in their enemies enemies' transport ships, then use that as justification to bust out an entire platoon of Dainsleif-equipped mobile suits to kill those same enemies. On top of this, the Gundam Kimaris Vidar is expressly equipped with Dainsleif launchers in order to give its lance, even if Vidar never fired them grounds to field their own ''en masse''.on-screen and it's just AllThereInTheManual.
1st Sep '17 7:02:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': Thurim was a medieval warlord who fought for the Catholic Christian Church in both the crusades in the Holy Land and the teutonic crusades in the Baltics. However, he was secretly a Satan-worshipper who was after Lucifer's hammer all along.
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