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27th Apr '16 7:38:24 AM AsForMyHandle
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* Season 1 of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' was only twelve episodes, with no others originally planned, and had to introduce and conclude a complicated plot about FantasticRacism and a war against {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s. A romance plot would inevitably have been bereft of necessary screentime to begin with, but then the writers decided to tack on a love ''quadrangle'' seemingly just for the hell of it. The end result is that ''all'' the attractions and romances were rushed, forced, glossed over, [[ShowDontTell told instead of shown]], or quickly buried. The ambiguity of whether Mako and Asami broke up during the season or whether or not Bolin was over Korra didn't help matters. Subverted in Season 2, [[spoiler:where Korra and Mako's personalities clash resulting in Mako breaking up with Korra. And by the end of the season, both accept that a romantic relationship between them won't work and end it for good]]. A Season 4 BreatherEpisode is partially devoted to [[SelfDeprecation mocking how poorly it went]], with Mako's friends and relatives pointing out to him how badly he screwed things up as he tells the sordid story.
** Poor Korra [[RelationshipWritingFumble can't catch a break]] when it comes to romance. Despite having more possible time to set up a romance between them, the writers end up randomly pairing Korra with [[spoiler: Asami]] in literally the [[HookedUpAfterwards last scene]] of the series finale. Well, at least they solved the love quadrangle.

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Season 1 of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' was only twelve episodes, with no others originally planned, and had to introduce and conclude a complicated plot about FantasticRacism and a war against {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s. A romance plot would inevitably have been bereft of necessary screentime to begin with, but then the writers decided to tack on a love ''quadrangle'' seemingly just for the hell of it. The end result is that ''all'' the attractions and romances were rushed, forced, glossed over, [[ShowDontTell told instead of shown]], or quickly buried. The ambiguity of whether Mako and Asami broke up during the season or whether or not Bolin was over Korra didn't help matters. Subverted in Season 2, [[spoiler:where Korra and Mako's personalities clash resulting in Mako breaking up with Korra. And by the end of the season, both accept that a romantic relationship between them won't work and end it for good]]. A Season 4 BreatherEpisode is partially devoted to [[SelfDeprecation mocking how poorly it went]], with Mako's friends and relatives pointing out to him how badly he screwed things up as he tells the sordid story.
** Poor Korra [[RelationshipWritingFumble can't catch a break]] when it comes to romance. Despite having more possible time to set up a romance between them, the writers end up randomly pairing Korra with [[spoiler: Asami]] in literally the [[HookedUpAfterwards last scene]] of the series finale. Well, at least they solved the love quadrangle.
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15th Apr '16 1:26:24 PM thebluebus
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*''WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls: this is one of the reasons why Flash Sentry is so hated. Twilight, who's had no romantic interest in anyone before, bumps into him several times and starts crushing on him, despite that she knows nothing about him, they have no meaningful interaction and he's of a completely different species. Then when she gets home, she bumps into his pony counterpart and starts crushing on him, despite knowing even less about him and that he's not even the same guy she'd interacted with.
15th Apr '16 11:40:57 AM ketiltrout
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The player can invoke this if they bungle Colette's RelationshipValues and then chooses to [[spoiler: kill Zelos off to get Kratos back in the party,]] since Colette is the default love interest and the scene where you choose which ending makes you reject everyone in order to [[spoiler: pick him.]]
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', from a series that's normally really good at averting this trope and playing romances subtly. A lot of people were kind of unhappy with the Cheria/Asbel romance for this reason, especially after Graces f. In the main game Asbel seems to be mostly [[ObliviousToLove ignorant of Cheria's crush on him,]] but then in the future arc he's suddenly blushing and stammering around her like an idiot. The extremely vague development in the original game coupled with the awkward, unprecedented and shoehorned romantic scenes in the future arc basically turned a lot of people off. It doesn't help that Sophie/Asbel and [[HoYay Richard/Asbel]] have a lot of fan support and at least a bit of subtext each. This is especially a shame because in the main story (before the future arc) Cheria finally acknowledges that, while she has feelings for Asbel, he hasn't shown any sign of reciprocating. So instead of hanging around Lhant mooning over him, she quite sensibly decides to go travel the world with the Doctors Without Borders-style organization she helped found.
* Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. Legretta loves the BigBad... A love mandated by BecauseDestinySaysSo, and she ''hates'' it because she wants to fall in love by her free will. Thus, she wants to destroy the world's concept of destiny. Fortunately/unfortunately for her, the BigBad wants the same thing so she has an actual reason to follow him.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' took the little ''Graces'' fiasco above and turned it up higher, when it comes to Jude and Milla. Their supposedly romantic scenes are [=YMMV=], at best, or come off as horribly awkward and bad [[PanderingToTheBase fan-pandering]], at its worst. Neither of them admits anything out loud, making their status as OfficialCouple rather questionable. [[VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 The sequel]] decided to start its pandering, again, in the later Character Chapters for Jude and Milla, suddenly adding ''a lot'' of too-obvious nudges at the two, including scenes that are supposed to be romantic, but once again fail due to the previous problems or feel out-of-place, like the were written in from a bad fan-made Harem manga. These scenes, unfortunately, did not manage to make their supposed relationship feel any more believeable than it did in the first game.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has an implied case with Ludger and Lara Mel Marta in the Good Ending. It is unclear how they got together in the other dimension, but were implied to be [[HappilyMarried happily married]] and had Elle. Over the course of the game, there's the revelation that Elle comes from a fractured dimension that is a few years ahead of the prime one, meaning [[KidFromTheFuture she hasn't been born yet]]. In the Good Ending, when Ludger hears Lara Mel Marta is here to see him, he rushes towards her and it's implied that they will fall in love. To the player, it makes their relationship seem to serve no purpose, other than to have Elle be born into the prime dimension.
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* The ''Franchise/TalesSeries'':
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The player can invoke this if they bungle Colette's RelationshipValues and then chooses to [[spoiler: kill Zelos off to get Kratos back in the party,]] since Colette is the default love interest and the scene where you choose which ending makes you reject everyone in order to [[spoiler: pick him.]]
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', from a series that's normally really good at averting this trope and playing romances subtly. A lot of people were kind of unhappy with the Cheria/Asbel romance for this reason, especially after Graces f. In the main game Asbel seems to be mostly [[ObliviousToLove ignorant of Cheria's crush on him,]] but then in the future arc he's suddenly blushing and stammering around her like an idiot. The extremely vague development in the original game coupled with the awkward, unprecedented and shoehorned romantic scenes in the future arc basically turned a lot of people off. It doesn't help that Sophie/Asbel and [[HoYay Richard/Asbel]] have a lot of fan support and at least a bit of subtext each. This is especially a shame because in the main story (before the future arc) Cheria finally acknowledges that, while she has feelings for Asbel, he hasn't shown any sign of reciprocating. So instead of hanging around Lhant mooning over him, she quite sensibly decides to go travel the world with the Doctors Without Borders-style organization she helped found.
** Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. Legretta loves the BigBad... A love mandated by BecauseDestinySaysSo, and she ''hates'' it because she wants to fall in love by her free will. Thus, she wants to destroy the world's concept of destiny. Fortunately/unfortunately for her, the BigBad wants the same thing so she has an actual reason to follow him.
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' took the little ''Graces'' fiasco above and turned it up higher, when it comes to Jude and Milla. Their supposedly romantic scenes are [=YMMV=], at best, or come off as horribly awkward and bad [[PanderingToTheBase fan-pandering]], at its worst. Neither of them admits anything out loud, making their status as OfficialCouple rather questionable. [[VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 The sequel]] decided to start its pandering, again, in the later Character Chapters for Jude and Milla, suddenly adding ''a lot'' of too-obvious nudges at the two, including scenes that are supposed to be romantic, but once again fail due to the previous problems or feel out-of-place, like the were written in from a bad fan-made Harem manga. These scenes, unfortunately, did not manage to make their supposed relationship feel any more believeable than it did in the first game.
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has an implied case with Ludger and Lara Mel Marta in the Good Ending. It is unclear how they got together in the other dimension, but were implied to be [[HappilyMarried happily married]] and had Elle. Over the course of the game, there's the revelation that Elle comes from a fractured dimension that is a few years ahead of the prime one, meaning [[KidFromTheFuture she hasn't been born yet]]. In the Good Ending, when Ludger hears Lara Mel Marta is here to see him, he rushes towards her and it's implied that they will fall in love. To the player, it makes their relationship seem to serve no purpose, other than to have Elle be born into the prime dimension.
15th Apr '16 10:41:13 AM Kazmahu
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** The game also makes an effort to HandWave why Chrom is suddenly forced into marriage (besides the plot reason of [[spoiler:Lucina needing to be born to set up "Marth's" reveal as future her]]). He'd recently ascended to ruler of Ylisse and was the last with a rightful claim[[note]]There is his sister Lissa, but she doesn't bear the Mark of Naga, leaving her legitimacy [[SuccessionCrisis open to dispute]][[/note]], so there was popular pressure for him to take a wife and produce a child to visibly secure the nation's future.
10th Apr '16 9:01:01 PM bootmii
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[[folder:''Tales'' Series]]
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The player can invoke this if they bungle Colette's RelationshipValues and then chooses to [[spoiler: kill Zelos off to get Kratos back in the party,]] since Colette is the default love interest and the scene where you choose which ending makes you reject everyone in order to [[spoiler: pick him.]]
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', from a series that's normally really good at averting this trope and playing romances subtly. A lot of people were kind of unhappy with the Cheria/Asbel romance for this reason, especially after Graces f. In the main game Asbel seems to be mostly [[ObliviousToLove ignorant of Cheria's crush on him,]] but then in the future arc he's suddenly blushing and stammering around her like an idiot. The extremely vague development in the original game coupled with the awkward, unprecedented and shoehorned romantic scenes in the future arc basically turned a lot of people off. It doesn't help that Sophie/Asbel and [[HoYay Richard/Asbel]] have a lot of fan support and at least a bit of subtext each. This is especially a shame because in the main story (before the future arc) Cheria finally acknowledges that, while she has feelings for Asbel, he hasn't shown any sign of reciprocating. So instead of hanging around Lhant mooning over him, she quite sensibly decides to go travel the world with the Doctors Without Borders-style organization she helped found.
* Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. Legretta loves the BigBad... A love mandated by BecauseDestinySaysSo, and she ''hates'' it because she wants to fall in love by her free will. Thus, she wants to destroy the world's concept of destiny. Fortunately/unfortunately for her, the BigBad wants the same thing so she has an actual reason to follow him.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' took the little ''Graces'' fiasco above and turned it up higher, when it comes to Jude and Milla. Their supposedly romantic scenes are [=YMMV=], at best, or come off as horribly awkward and bad [[PanderingToTheBase fan-pandering]], at its worst. Neither of them admits anything out loud, making their status as OfficialCouple rather questionable. [[VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 The sequel]] decided to start its pandering, again, in the later Character Chapters for Jude and Milla, suddenly adding ''a lot'' of too-obvious nudges at the two, including scenes that are supposed to be romantic, but once again fail due to the previous problems or feel out-of-place, like the were written in from a bad fan-made Harem manga. These scenes, unfortunately, did not manage to make their supposed relationship feel any more believeable than it did in the first game.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has an implied case with Ludger and Lara Mel Marta in the Good Ending. It is unclear how they got together in the other dimension, but were implied to be [[HappilyMarried happily married]] and had Elle. Over the course of the game, there's the revelation that Elle comes from a fractured dimension that is a few years ahead of the prime one, meaning [[KidFromTheFuture she hasn't been born yet]]. In the Good Ending, when Ludger hears Lara Mel Marta is here to see him, he rushes towards her and it's implied that they will fall in love. To the player, it makes their relationship seem to serve no purpose, other than to have Elle be born into the prime dimension.
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The player can invoke this if they bungle Colette's RelationshipValues and then chooses to [[spoiler: kill Zelos off to get Kratos back in the party,]] since Colette is the default love interest and the scene where you choose which ending makes you reject everyone in order to [[spoiler: pick him.]]
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', from a series that's normally really good at averting this trope and playing romances subtly. A lot of people were kind of unhappy with the Cheria/Asbel romance for this reason, especially after Graces f. In the main game Asbel seems to be mostly [[ObliviousToLove ignorant of Cheria's crush on him,]] but then in the future arc he's suddenly blushing and stammering around her like an idiot. The extremely vague development in the original game coupled with the awkward, unprecedented and shoehorned romantic scenes in the future arc basically turned a lot of people off. It doesn't help that Sophie/Asbel and [[HoYay Richard/Asbel]] have a lot of fan support and at least a bit of subtext each. This is especially a shame because in the main story (before the future arc) Cheria finally acknowledges that, while she has feelings for Asbel, he hasn't shown any sign of reciprocating. So instead of hanging around Lhant mooning over him, she quite sensibly decides to go travel the world with the Doctors Without Borders-style organization she helped found.
* Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. Legretta loves the BigBad... A love mandated by BecauseDestinySaysSo, and she ''hates'' it because she wants to fall in love by her free will. Thus, she wants to destroy the world's concept of destiny. Fortunately/unfortunately for her, the BigBad wants the same thing so she has an actual reason to follow him.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' took the little ''Graces'' fiasco above and turned it up higher, when it comes to Jude and Milla. Their supposedly romantic scenes are [=YMMV=], at best, or come off as horribly awkward and bad [[PanderingToTheBase fan-pandering]], at its worst. Neither of them admits anything out loud, making their status as OfficialCouple rather questionable. [[VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2 The sequel]] decided to start its pandering, again, in the later Character Chapters for Jude and Milla, suddenly adding ''a lot'' of too-obvious nudges at the two, including scenes that are supposed to be romantic, but once again fail due to the previous problems or feel out-of-place, like the were written in from a bad fan-made Harem manga. These scenes, unfortunately, did not manage to make their supposed relationship feel any more believeable than it did in the first game.
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has an implied case with Ludger and Lara Mel Marta in the Good Ending. It is unclear how they got together in the other dimension, but were implied to be [[HappilyMarried happily married]] and had Elle. Over the course of the game, there's the revelation that Elle comes from a fractured dimension that is a few years ahead of the prime one, meaning [[KidFromTheFuture she hasn't been born yet]]. In the Good Ending, when Ludger hears Lara Mel Marta is here to see him, he rushes towards her and it's implied that they will fall in love. To the player, it makes their relationship seem to serve no purpose, other than to have Elle be born into the prime dimension.
4th Apr '16 6:46:02 AM emmerys
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** Yamato and Sora are the primary OfficialCouple of both ''Digimon Adventure'' and ''Adventure 02'' and are an exceptionally complicated example that [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/matt-x-sorasorato-threads generates rage to this day]]. Head director Hiroyuki Kakudou [[https://twitter.com/kakudou/status/339004461424971776 always intended to pair Yamato and Sora off]] because he considered it a [[http://digitalscratch.pmsinfirm.org/?p=822#08 cliché]] to pair the male and female leads. However, because the series was never actually about relationships, their intended romance was never openly developed and was given only [[https://twitter.com/kakudou/status/340404941917151233 a smattering of subtle foreshadowing]]. Unfortunately, Kakudou's intentions were stymied repeatedly due to trying to balance Sora and Yamato's future romance with Sora and Taichi's current friendship; CreativeDifferences he had with other series contributors; and the fact that he had a bad habit of [[LockedoutOfTheLoop not sharing his plans with the other creators]]; many of the voice actors themselves related surprise and disbelief about Sora and Yamato pairing, including Yuko Mizutani, ''[[EpicFail Sora's own voice seiyuu]]''.

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** Yamato and Sora are the primary OfficialCouple of both ''Digimon Adventure'' and ''Adventure 02'' and are an exceptionally complicated example that [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/matt-x-sorasorato-threads generates rage to this day]]. Head director Hiroyuki Kakudou [[https://twitter.com/kakudou/status/339004461424971776 always intended to pair Yamato and Sora off]] because he considered it a [[http://digitalscratch.pmsinfirm.org/?p=822#08 cliché]] to pair the male and female leads. However, because the series was never actually about relationships, their intended romance was never openly developed and was given only [[https://twitter.com/kakudou/status/340404941917151233 a smattering of subtle foreshadowing]]. Unfortunately, Kakudou's intentions were stymied repeatedly due to trying to balance Sora and Yamato's future romance with Sora and Taichi's current friendship; CreativeDifferences he had with other series contributors; and the fact that he had a bad habit of [[LockedoutOfTheLoop not sharing his plans with the other creators]]; many of the voice actors themselves related surprise and disbelief about Sora and Yamato pairing, including Yuko Mizutani, ''[[EpicFail Sora's own voice seiyuu]]''. Mizutani.
23rd Mar '16 7:48:25 PM DatLonerGirl
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Not every RomanceArc gets the luxury of being played out fully to the [[LawOfConservationOfDetail last detail]]. Sometimes the writers [[TheyJustDidntCare just don't care]], or they decide that the important part is getting those two characters in a relationship, and [[HandWave the rest will somehow sort itself out]]. The result is that the two characters go through a leap of characterization all the way to a RelationshipUpgrade without any of the usual in-betweens; apparently Cupid forgot to tie the RedStringOfFate on the lovers' pinkies at birth, and in a desperate attempt to save face he ended up gaarroting them with it in a back alley while he thought the audience wasn't paying attention.

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Not every RomanceArc gets the luxury of being played out fully to the [[LawOfConservationOfDetail last detail]]. Sometimes the writers [[TheyJustDidntCare just don't care]], or they decide that the important part is getting those two characters in a relationship, and [[HandWave the rest will somehow sort itself out]]. The result is that the two characters go through a leap of characterization all the way to a RelationshipUpgrade without any of the usual in-betweens; apparently Cupid forgot to tie the RedStringOfFate on the lovers' pinkies at birth, and in a desperate attempt to save face he ended up gaarroting garroting them with it in a back alley while he thought the audience wasn't paying attention.
13th Mar '16 8:14:40 PM GrammarNavi
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* ''Series/ThatSeventiesShow'' played [[PlayedForLaughs this for laughs]] with Jackie and Hyde's hookup in Season 5. The two initially don't like each other at all, and it was only through their common friends that they're even in the same vicinity. They become better friends in Season 2 after he shows her how to deal with Laurie stealing Kelso from her. In Season 3, she becomes attracted to him and develops a clingy infatuation with him, which he's annoyed by, but he eventually caves and takes her out on a date. The two share a kiss, but Jackie says it didn't do anything for her and finally realizes Hyde isn't the guy for her. At this point they seem to have effectively [[ShipSinking been sunk]], and it's not brought up again until the Season 5 premier, when the others leave the room, and the two suddenly start making out and continue to do so. In the next episode, a flashback reveals they were watching TV and complaining about how bored they were, when they look at each other for a few seconds and spontaneously started making out. Yet, their relationship comes off as much more believable due because they give off a ton of chemistry together and by the fact that they initially spend a lot of time lampshading how strange it is.

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* ''Series/ThatSeventiesShow'' ''Series/That70sShow'' played [[PlayedForLaughs this for laughs]] with Jackie and Hyde's hookup in Season 5. The two initially don't like each other at all, and it was only through their common friends that they're even in the same vicinity. They become better friends in Season 2 after he shows her how to deal with Laurie stealing Kelso from her. In Season 3, she becomes attracted to him and develops a clingy infatuation with him, which he's annoyed by, but he eventually caves and takes her out on a date. The two share a kiss, but Jackie says it didn't do anything for her and finally realizes Hyde isn't the guy for her. At this point they seem to have effectively [[ShipSinking been sunk]], and it's not brought up again until the Season 5 premier, when the others leave the room, and the two suddenly start making out and continue to do so. In the next episode, a flashback reveals they were watching TV and complaining about how bored they were, when they look at each other for a few seconds and spontaneously started making out. Yet, their relationship comes off as much more believable due because they give off a ton of chemistry together and by the fact that they initially spend a lot of time lampshading how strange it is.
9th Mar '16 1:27:39 PM Truffle
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* Happens a few times on ''Series/TheWalkingDead'', but the most prominent example is [[spoiler: Carol and Tobin,]] who share a kiss for some inexplicable reason, despite only speaking once in the previous series.
28th Feb '16 11:08:29 AM Furienna
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** The romance between Ron and Hermione is also seen as this by a part of the fanbase. We are ''told'' that they have the major hots for each other, and [[spoiler: they do get married to each other later on]], but we don't see them spend much time alone together or work on their very vitriolic relationship. Again, it can be justified by the fact that most events are only seen from Harry's point of view. So we ''can'' assume that Ron and Hermione spent time together and worked out their differences off screen.


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* Series/FamilyMatters had Steve being in love with Laura from the beginning, despite how she had never given him any hopes that he would win her heart and was even mean to him during the first couple of seasons. And it was clear that she preferred the JerkJock type, which was the polar opposite of Steve's nerdy personality. And for a couple of seasons, when Steve had a serious relationship with Myra and he had become friends with Laura, Steve's crush on Laura was almost forgotten about. But then came the 9th and last season, when it seems like the writers suddenly decided that Steve and Laura just ''had to'' end up together, despite how they both were in serious relationships with other people...
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