History Main / StrangledByTheRedString

21st Jul '17 1:52:59 AM FuzzyBarbarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' has a few in ''one issue'' no less. One issue focuses almost entirely on the romantic troubles of the team, like a love triangle between Wally West, Donna Troy and Roy Harper. Wally has shown ''zero'' feelings for Donna, but they end up making out because Linda Park "breaks up" with him (they weren't a proper couple anymore) and both understand what it's like to have messed up memories. Rushed, to say the least, but at least logical. The worse offender is Lilith and Garth, who get together because... no reason stated. And they've barely interacted before this issue. [[ShowDontTell But because Lilith is a psychic, she says she's known that Garth has been hiding his feelings for here]].

to:

* ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' has quite a few in ''one issue'' no less. One issue focuses almost entirely on the romantic troubles of the team, like a love triangle between Wally West, Donna Troy and Roy Harper. Wally has shown ''zero'' feelings for Donna, but they end up making out because Linda Park "breaks up" with him (they weren't a proper couple anymore) and both understand what it's like to have messed up memories. Rushed, to say the least, but at least logical. The worse offender is Lilith and Garth, who get together because... no reason stated. And they've barely interacted before this issue. [[ShowDontTell But because Lilith is a psychic, she says she's known that Garth has been hiding his feelings for here]].
21st Jul '17 1:52:00 AM FuzzyBarbarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The ComicBook/DCRebirth relaunch in general has quite a few because of its very nature. Because it's a return to DC's roots and a spiritual return to the pre-Flashpoint universe, it gota lot of characters that were FanPreferredCouple but weren't couples anymore (as a result of flashpoint) back together. The problem is that it rushes them quite a bit, because it assumes a level of familiarity from the reader. Examples include:
** Green Arrow and Black Canary suddenly pining for each other after one meeting (where they didn't even speak) in ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1. Their relationship was expanded upon in the ''ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth'' series.
** From the same issue, Wally West and Linda Park. It works a little better, since Wally explicitly remembers the timeline pre-Flashpoint, and Linda doesn't, but it's still weird for new readers who don't know about the two. He ''does'' explain why they fell in love, but it's a case of him telling not showing. This version of their relationship was also prevalent in ''Titans'', where it ended with the two never becoming a couple like Wally wanted. To say fans are not amused when it comes to the handling of ''the'' Flash couple is an understatement.
** From the same relaunch, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown in ''Detective Comics''. Many don't like that Tim and Steph were depicted in a relationship together with no prior buildup. Tim's DyingDeclarationOfLove feels hollow for this reason, as does Steph's TheMourningAfter status.

to:

* The From the ComicBook/DCRebirth relaunch in general relaunch:
** In general, it
has quite a few because of its very nature. Because it's a return to DC's roots and a spiritual return to the pre-Flashpoint universe, it gota has a lot of characters that were FanPreferredCouple but weren't couples anymore (as a result of flashpoint) ''Flashpoint'') getting back together. The problem is that it rushes them quite a bit, because it assumes a level of familiarity from the reader. Examples include:
reader.
** An example would be Green Arrow and Black Canary suddenly pining for each other after one meeting (where they didn't even speak) in ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1. Their relationship was expanded upon in the ''ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth'' series.
series where it made more sense, as the two actually got to know each other, at least.
** From the that same issue, Wally West and Linda Park. It works a little better, since Wally explicitly remembers the timeline pre-Flashpoint, and pre-Flashpoint (though Linda doesn't, doesn't), but it's still weird for new readers who don't know about the two. He ''does'' explain why they fell in love, but it's a case of him telling not showing. showing, as you just can't condense over a hundred issues into a single scene. This version of their relationship was also prevalent in ''Titans'', ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'', where it ended with the two never becoming a couple like Wally wanted. To say fans are not amused when it comes to the handling of ''the'' Flash couple is an understatement.
** From the same relaunch, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown in ''Detective Comics''.''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'' suffered from the same problem as the above. Many don't like that Tim and Steph were depicted in a relationship together with no prior buildup. James Tynion assumes a lot of familiarity and fondness for the characters and their relationships from the pre-Flashpoint era, and as such ''lots'' of the relationships, romantic or not, come across as sudden. Tim and Steph are no exception. Tim's DyingDeclarationOfLove feels hollow for this reason, as does Steph's TheMourningAfter status.
20th Jul '17 12:49:24 PM germanlureag
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** This is the case with earlier movies, particularly ones like ''Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'' and ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}''. It can be chalked up to Creator/{{Disney}} trying to keep to the source material, which in those cases were mostly fairy tales meant to teach morality and not build a believable love story. Later movies fix this, by giving the couples more interaction and personalities beyond "She's the girl of my dreams!". Even in ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' the relationship of Ariel and Eric, despite being more developed than some of the aforementioned, occurred between two people who did not know each other for more than three days, and she couldn't even speak at first, yet after those three days they're already getting married.

to:

** This is the case with earlier movies, particularly ones like ''Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'' and ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}''. It can be chalked up to Creator/{{Disney}} trying to keep to the source material, which in those cases were mostly fairy tales meant to teach morality and not build a believable love story. Later movies fix this, by giving the couples more interaction and personalities beyond "She's the girl of my dreams!". Even in ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' the relationship of Ariel and Eric, despite being more developed than some of the aforementioned, occurred between two people who did not know each other for more than three days, and she couldn't even speak at first, yet after those three days they're already getting married.
8th Jul '17 7:31:18 AM boatsnot
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** [[spoiler:Tiera]] and The Choten's relationship seems to exist ''solely'' to [[SickeningSwerve twist the knife in]] [[IgnoredEnamoredUnderling Alakshmi's]] back. She hadn't even been mentioned by him before this moment, though he could have blocked out her death from his mind.

to:

** [[spoiler:Tiera]] and The Choten's relationship seems to exist ''solely'' to [[SickeningSwerve [[CruelTwistEnding twist the knife in]] [[IgnoredEnamoredUnderling Alakshmi's]] back. She hadn't even been mentioned by him before this moment, though he could have blocked out her death from his mind.
8th Jul '17 7:30:32 AM boatsnot
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaijudo}}'':
** Nadia and Chavez have only two episodes depicting any sort of romance together, but they [[spoiler:share a kiss come the first season finale.]] Bizarrely still, they have no romantic moments after that.
** [[spoiler:Tiera]] and The Choten's relationship seems to exist ''solely'' to [[SickeningSwerve twist the knife in]] [[IgnoredEnamoredUnderling Alakshmi's]] back. She hadn't even been mentioned by him before this moment, though he could have blocked out her death from his mind.
6th Jul '17 8:38:34 PM FuzzyBarbarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The ComicBook/DCRebirth relaunch in general has quite a few because of its very nature. Because it's a return to DC's roots and a spiritual return to the pre-Flashpoint universe, it made a lot of characters that weren't couples anymore (as a result of flashpoint) back into couples. The problem is that it rushes them quite a bit, because it assumes a level of familiarity from the reader. Examples include Green Arrow and Black Canary suddenly pining for each other after one meeting (where they didn't even speak) in ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1.

to:

* The ComicBook/DCRebirth relaunch in general has quite a few because of its very nature. Because it's a return to DC's roots and a spiritual return to the pre-Flashpoint universe, it made a gota lot of characters that were FanPreferredCouple but weren't couples anymore (as a result of flashpoint) back into couples.together. The problem is that it rushes them quite a bit, because it assumes a level of familiarity from the reader. Examples include include:
**
Green Arrow and Black Canary suddenly pining for each other after one meeting (where they didn't even speak) in ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1.#1. Their relationship was expanded upon in the ''ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth'' series.
** From the same issue, Wally West and Linda Park. It works a little better, since Wally explicitly remembers the timeline pre-Flashpoint, and Linda doesn't, but it's still weird for new readers who don't know about the two. He ''does'' explain why they fell in love, but it's a case of him telling not showing. This version of their relationship was also prevalent in ''Titans'', where it ended with the two never becoming a couple like Wally wanted. To say fans are not amused when it comes to the handling of ''the'' Flash couple is an understatement.
** From the same relaunch, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown in ''Detective Comics''. Many don't like that Tim and Steph were depicted in a relationship together with no prior buildup. Tim's DyingDeclarationOfLove feels hollow for this reason, as does Steph's TheMourningAfter status.
6th Jul '17 8:18:36 PM FuzzyBarbarian
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' has a few in ''one issue'' no less. One issue focuses almost entirely on the romantic troubles of the team, like a love triangle between Wally West, Donna Troy and Roy Harper. Wally has shown ''zero'' feelings for Donna, but they end up making out because Linda Park "breaks up" with him (they weren't a proper couple) and both understand what it's like to have messed up memories. Rushed, to say the least, but at least logical. The worse offender is Lilith and Garth, who get together because... no reason stated. And they've barely interacted before this issue. [[ShowDontTell But because Lilith is a psychic, she says she's known that Garth has been hiding his feelings for here]].

to:

* ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' has a few in ''one issue'' no less. One issue focuses almost entirely on the romantic troubles of the team, like a love triangle between Wally West, Donna Troy and Roy Harper. Wally has shown ''zero'' feelings for Donna, but they end up making out because Linda Park "breaks up" with him (they weren't a proper couple) couple anymore) and both understand what it's like to have messed up memories. Rushed, to say the least, but at least logical. The worse offender is Lilith and Garth, who get together because... no reason stated. And they've barely interacted before this issue. [[ShowDontTell But because Lilith is a psychic, she says she's known that Garth has been hiding his feelings for here]].here]].
* The ComicBook/DCRebirth relaunch in general has quite a few because of its very nature. Because it's a return to DC's roots and a spiritual return to the pre-Flashpoint universe, it made a lot of characters that weren't couples anymore (as a result of flashpoint) back into couples. The problem is that it rushes them quite a bit, because it assumes a level of familiarity from the reader. Examples include Green Arrow and Black Canary suddenly pining for each other after one meeting (where they didn't even speak) in ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1.
26th Jun '17 5:30:50 AM NNinja
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'': The romance between [[AllAmazonsWantHercules Lara and Saburo]] in ''Crown of the Slaves'' started more or less like this:
-->'''Lara:''': Hi, i'm Lara, do you have a girlfriend?
-->'''Saburo''': No, why?
-->'''Lara''': Because now you have.
24th Jun '17 1:18:17 PM Troperr2016
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'': Noctis and Lunafreya have a relationship that is seen by fans as poorly drawn out and unfocused. This couple first met when they were kids after Noctis had a near death experience and they had not met again until the events of the actual game when they get betrothed as a result of a treaty between Lucis and Niflheim that turned out to be a sham. Even then, Noctis only interacted with Lunafreya before the eighth chapter through a notebook that they kept delivering notes to each other with Luna's dog, Umbra being the carrier. Noctis doesn't even meet up with Luna again until Ardyn murders her. The games epilogue even shows them after they died, dressed in their wedding clothes and sharing a kiss.
24th Jun '17 4:53:05 AM thebluebus
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''VideoGame/SpyroAHerosTail'', Ember had a clear crush on Spyro, which carried over to the next game. Then an armadillo named Bandit saw her and immediately fell in love with her and had Spyro deliver a love letter to her. When Ember gets the letter, she immediately dropped her crush on Spyro and fell for Bandit, even though the two barely interacted.

to:

* In ''VideoGame/SpyroAHerosTail'', Ember had a clear crush on Spyro, which carried over to the next game. Shadow Legacy. Then an armadillo named Bandit saw her and her, immediately fell in love with her and had Spyro deliver a love letter to her. When Ember gets got the letter, she immediately dropped her crush on Spyro and fell for Bandit, even though the two barely interacted.interacted and would not again for the rest of the game.
This list shows the last 10 events of 709. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.StrangledByTheRedString