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18th Jan '18 1:28:06 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': [[BadassGrandpa Master Yoda]] usually speaks with a [[http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002173.html Object-Subject-Verb word order]]. A defining characteristic, his strange syntax is, and often parodied.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': [[BadassGrandpa [[OldMaster Master Yoda]] usually speaks with a [[http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002173.html Object-Subject-Verb word order]]. A defining characteristic, his strange syntax is, and often parodied.
18th Jan '18 1:27:44 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** In the prequels, [[TheScrappy Jar Jar Binks]], and to a lesser extent the other Gungans, speaks a pidgin Galactic Basic that involves [[HulkSpeak dropping articles such as "the" and using "me" in place of "I"]] and adding random syllables to otherwise standard words ("meesa" instead of "I am", "looky" to mean "look", etc.). As the Gungans were widely interpreted as {{expies}} of people of recent African descent or indigenous peoples in general, this was rife with UnfortunateImplications.

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** In the prequels, [[TheScrappy Jar Jar Binks]], and to a lesser extent the other Gungans, speaks a pidgin Galactic Basic that involves [[HulkSpeak dropping articles such as "the" and using "me" in place of "I"]] and adding random syllables to otherwise standard words ("meesa" instead of "I am", "looky" to mean "look", etc.). As the Gungans were widely interpreted as {{expies}} of people of recent African descent or indigenous peoples in general, this was rife with UnfortunateImplications.
17th Jan '18 5:40:46 AM Willbyr
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Compare, contrast against alternatives {{Conlang}} (covering artificial argots overall) or singsong StarfishLanguage; look also at vanilla VerbalTic trope. Intermittently, [[GratuitousIambicPentameter Iambic Pentameter]] presents itself in many media as a common case. May overlap with YouNoTakeCandle.

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Compare, contrast against alternatives {{Conlang}} (covering artificial argots overall) or singsong StarfishLanguage; look also at vanilla VerbalTic trope. Intermittently, [[GratuitousIambicPentameter Iambic Pentameter]] pentameter]] presents itself in many media as a common case. May overlap with YouNoTakeCandle.



28th Dec '17 5:39:47 AM Cryoclaste
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* If the winquotes in ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' are any indication (since the crossover retains the characters' usual behaviors), this is [[{{Tekken}} Yoshimitsu]]'s usual speech pattern.

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* If the winquotes in ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' are any indication (since the crossover retains the characters' usual behaviors), this is [[{{Tekken}} [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Yoshimitsu]]'s usual speech pattern.
19th Dec '17 9:47:45 AM Eolewyn1010
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** It's also a bit similar to the manner of speaking in Slaver's Bay where Unsullied soldiers and other slaves, for example Missandei, refer to theirself in third person and with "this one" while they use the correct second and third person for anyone else.
--> "This one's name is Missandei, Your Grace."

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** It's also a bit similar to the manner of speaking in Slaver's Bay where Unsullied soldiers and other slaves, for example Missandei, refer to theirself themselves in third person and with "this one" while they use the correct second and third person for anyone else.
--> Missandei: "This one's name is Missandei, Your Grace."
19th Dec '17 9:45:58 AM Eolewyn1010
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** It's also a bit similar to the manner of speaking in Slaver's Bay where Unsullied soldiers and other slaves, for example Missandei, refer to theirself in third person and with "this one" while they use the correct second and third person for anyone else.
--> "This one's name is Missandei, Your Grace."
11th Dec '17 1:37:58 PM Discar
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* The player character in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' can speak almost every alien language, so you get subtitles even for what the Jawas on Tatooine are saying. Nevertheless, even subtitled, their syntax is rather strange.

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* ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':
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The player character in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' can speak almost every alien language, so you get subtitles even for what the Jawas on Tatooine are saying. Nevertheless, even subtitled, their syntax is rather strange.strange.
** The [[AxeCrazy HK-47]] and the HK-50 models preface their sentences with a description. However, they are perfectly capable of modulating their speech synthesizers to add inflection when necessary for infiltration.
--->'''HK-47:''' Annoyed statement: I would greatly prefer blasting them, master, but you are the master.



** A minor alien species, the elcor, exhibit a form of this. They all speak in a deep monotone, and preface their sentences with the tone it would be in, e.g. "genuine enthusiasm," followed by a sentence with no noticeable enthusiasm. They talk like that with non-elcor because they express emotion through pheromones, subsonics, and extremely subtle body language that most other species can't detect. It's implied that the rendering of the emotional prefix statement is due to the TranslatorMicrobes, as when a certain elcor is asked by his asari colleague if he had hacked his translator unit in order to speak exactly how he wants, he replies, in an utter monotone, with: "[[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial With a sincerity such that scepticism would be deeply insulting:]] ...no."
*** This is similar to how [[AxeCrazy HK-47]] and the HK-50 models talk in the ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games. However, unlike the elcor, they are perfectly capable of modulating their speech synthesizers to add inflection, making prefixes like "Annoyed statement: I would greatly prefer blasting them, master, but you are the master," mostly unnecessary but [[RuleOfFunny funny]].
** Another example would by the hanar, who cannot speak as humans do at all; their translators/synthesizers render their bioluminescent language into spoken words. Either for this reason or some quirk of culture, all their translated speech is exceedingly polite, avoids reference to personal pronouns like "I" and they will rarely use their names unless introducing themselves, preferring "it" or "this one", i.e. "This one hopes that we will converse again soon." They have two names, in fact; a Face Name (for public use) and a Soul Name (for family and very close friends).
*** You can ask them about it and they will say that they consider it extremely rude and egotistical to use the first person with somebody they know only on a Face Name basis.

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** A minor alien species, the elcor, exhibit a form of this. They all speak in a deep monotone, and preface their sentences with the tone it would be in, e.g. "genuine enthusiasm," followed by a sentence with no noticeable enthusiasm. They talk like that with non-elcor because they express emotion through pheromones, subsonics, and extremely subtle body language that most other species can't detect. It's implied that the rendering apparently part of the emotional prefix statement is due to the TranslatorMicrobes, as when a certain elcor is asked by his asari colleague if he had hacked his ubiquitous TranslatorMicrobes.
--->'''Asari:''' Wait. Did you hack your
translator unit in order to speak exactly how he wants, he replies, in an utter monotone, with: "[[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial so you could control your kinetic language processing?\\
'''Elcor:''' [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial
With a sincerity such that scepticism skepticism would be deeply insulting:]] ...no."
*** This is similar to how [[AxeCrazy HK-47]] and the HK-50 models talk in the ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games. However, unlike the elcor, they are perfectly capable of modulating their speech synthesizers to add inflection, making prefixes like "Annoyed statement: I would greatly prefer blasting them, master, but you are the master," mostly unnecessary but [[RuleOfFunny funny]].
insulting]]: [[BlatantLies No]].
** Another example would by the hanar, who cannot speak as humans do at all; their translators/synthesizers render their bioluminescent language into spoken words. Either for this reason or some quirk of culture, Furthermore, all their translated speech is exceedingly polite, avoids reference to personal pronouns like "I" and they will rarely use their names unless introducing themselves, preferring "it" or "this one", i.e. "This one hopes that we will converse again soon." They have two names, in fact; a Face Name (for public use) and a Soul Name (for family and very close friends).
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friends). You can ask them about it and they will say that they consider it extremely rude and egotistical to use the first person with somebody they know only on a Face Name basis. Hanar who interact with other races have to take special classes so as to learn not to be offended. The hanar believe that they were taught language by the Protheans; in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', your Prothean squadmate is not impressed.
---> '''Javik''': It's a pity we didn't teach them to speak ''better''.
10th Dec '17 10:54:46 AM AnotherDuck
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* Russian people who are new to speaking English can be this. Russian places far less emphasis on the ordering of words in a sentence[[note]]They are typically ordered SUBJECT-VERB-OBJECT (the same as in standard English), but one can put them in any order and it would make sense[[/note]], making it easy for a Russian person to start speaking like Yoda.
* English isn't unique in using "do" as a placeholder, but it's pretty darn unusual. It makes learning English somewhat confusing (among other odd features of a language that's basically a mishmash of German, French, Celtic and Old Norse).
%% * [[AvertedTrope Averted]] in Turkish language where main word order is SUBJECT-OBJECT-VERB but other five word orders are possible as well. [[note]]Word order can be altered to emphasize a particular element (the word which is closest to the verb being the most emphasized). And placing verb anywhere other than the end of the sentence makes it more poetic.[[/note]]
* Atypical use of syntax (that isn't better explained by cultural norms, lack of fluency, etc.) can be a symptom of certain schizophrenia spectrum disorders, such as schizophrenia and schizotypal personality disorder.
4th Dec '17 6:52:41 AM ZarbiNerada
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Young Kettle Corn, from/''Marks and Recreation'' on[=/=]Oft talks in haiku.
13th Oct '17 10:05:29 AM GrammarNavi
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* In the ''Videogame/DwarfFortress'' LetsPlay ''{{Bravemule}}'', this is the way all of the dwarves talk, in order to cement the impression that they are a totally different culture. It's combined with alien terminology, for example "elf" seems to stand for everything that is an enemy or related to such, "dreg" would be a pariah and "clod" a non-pariah dwarf.

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* In the ''Videogame/DwarfFortress'' LetsPlay ''{{Bravemule}}'', ''LetsPlay/{{Bravemule}}'', this is the way all of the dwarves talk, in order to cement the impression that they are a totally different culture. It's combined with alien terminology, for example "elf" seems to stand for everything that is an enemy or related to such, "dreg" would be a pariah and "clod" a non-pariah dwarf.
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